turned down $100MM (!) for two more films. he did seem bored with spectre tho.

who you got for the next 007...

idris alba?
tom hiddleston?
fassbender?

Whoever is next has big shoes to fill, Craig was bad ass, pulled off tone actions scenes better than any previous Bond. Killing people or fist fights were believable

>Whoever is next has big shoes to fill, Craig was bad ass,
>pulled off tone actions scenes better than any previous Bond.
>Killing people or fist fights were believable

i remember folks shitting all over the announcement that a 5'10" guy from layer cake was gonna be the next bond.

he elevated and set the *toughness* standard for the role that'll be hard to match or come close to.

so yeah, not surprised people are mad at the possibility of Idris.

Parts of it were fun but the ending sucked and the overall narrative and way they tried to tie up strands from the earlier Craig movies almost makes me like the earlier Craig movies less in retrospect.

>Parts of it were fun but the ending sucked and the overall
>narrative and way they tried to tie up strands from the
>earlier Craig movies almost makes me like the earlier Craig
>movies less in retrospect.

he himself played a very good Bond, but the movies for whatever reasons was pretty flawed. He did a great job with the physical aspects of the character though, that much can't be taken away from him; probably the best action-type of Bond actor out of all the prior depictions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W85F9lSJWdo

Which isn't a bad idea.

Turning down 100 million seems like a dumb move. Dude could have used that money to fund the movies he'd really like to make. And he could probably have demanded more say in the scripts, if he felt they were bad.

I'm not upset since I wasn't a huge fan of the direction that Bond series went; interested to see where they take it.

I just don't look at him as that; granted, I've only seen him as Loki but he just doesn't strike me as bond-like, not even in a Roger Moore way.


Though I think it would be kind of fun if they went more in that direction. I personally lean towards Brosnan even though his non-Goldeneye movies were pretty rough, but there's only been one Moore-style Bond and he had the longest, goofiest run. Brosnan and Craig both chased Connery in different ways, maybe it's time to pivot especially since Marvel, Star Wars and DC have all the explosions covered for the next ten years.


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Kind of a decent dry run for Bond.

He'd definitely be a different Bond, which could be nice.

>Which isn't a bad idea.
>
>Turning down 100 million seems like a dumb move. Dude could
>have used that money to fund the movies he'd really like to
>make. And he could probably have demanded more say in the
>scripts, if he felt they were bad.
>
>I'm not upset since I wasn't a huge fan of the direction that
>Bond series went; interested to see where they take it.
>

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Prefer more as a Blofeld(before Spectre) type versus a Jaws. Maybe even the "bad guys" version of Bond.

Im not ageist like that, but that's out there. Only other black Englishman i can think of off the top of my head is David Oyelowo, who I could see as Bond too, but people are gonna throw out that he was MLK, as if actors who played Jesus couldnt do anything else, for example.

people need to let it go.

To what extent is 43 too old for the role? Just doubt that he could live up to the physicality of Craig's Bond?

the 6 previous bond actors, and their ages at the time of their first film's release:

connery - 32
lazenby - 30
moore - 46
dalton - 41
brosnan - 42
craig - 40

idris turns 44 this summer. by the time bond 25 is completed and released, he'll be 45-46 years old. possibly 47. if he signs on to do 4 films, as craig and brosnan did, he'd be in his mid-fifties by the end of the contract.

he's too old. he'd have made a great bond, but it's time to move on already. guys like hardy, hiddleston and oyelowo are more in the age range that they should be looking at.

Not that it might matter much for film purposes, but according to his wikipedia page, he voiced Bond in the audiobook of last year's Trigger Mortis. Hardy is great and Hiddleston is cool but Oyelowo is more interesting out those 3 and yes that's based partly on race for me, but he's not chopped liver compared to those other guys.

No matter what names get thrown out there, I would advocate for "affirmative action" for this casting, for any racial minority, or heck, maybe a woman too. I'd be team Idris Elba too and challenge the writers to come up with an interesting, aging, bond; I mean if it's ok for Affleck to do his version of Batman and all, why not?

But that's my 2 cents no one asked for. I'd wager it on the Bond producers going young for sure, and likely white as usual.

re: oyelowo... voiceovers are one thing, but he's too short @ five-eight to play bond. he'd be my last choice.

it's too bad elba's facing the age constraint, 'cause he head-and-shoulders-above carries the smoothness attributed to the role.

might be considered washed up at this point tho.

All the recommendations I see are always guys with at least one fairly iconic role in the bag. Gimme someone I don't know who can really own the part. Whatever race or gender. Just someone badass and cool. Not someone too skinny.

Anyone who has seen The Guest will know he'd be great as Bond & he's the right age for a 10 year run at it

i assumed it was only gonna be 3 movies

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/g584/next-james-bond-actor/

madden's interesting.

That won't help his chances. Cavill would've been solid but he's already did Man From U.N.C.L.E. , which by the way makes me wish they could just do a live action Archer ep with him as Archer.

Hitman: Agent 47 was kind of underrated-- I liked it more than the first (not saying much, but still), and he's young enough. I don't want a Bond starting at 45, really.

Ferguson and Mbatha-Raw would be better leads in a spy franchise than most of these people. Barnes is one of the worst actors in Hollywood/Britain.

Madden is definitely interesting. I'd love Oyelowo as well. I thought Cavill was pretty good in UNCLE, but if we get him, we're going back to the Brosnan all-smooth-one-liners, not-as-much-emoting Bond. I wouldn't mind that, but I doubt they're gonna move backward with the franchise stylistically. (He'd be a better Bond than Superman, probs.)

Damian Lewis would've been AWESOME ten years ago. He's older than I'd like a Bond reboot to be. He'd be 50 by the time the third/fourth movie comes around.

Please not Hiddleston. I love him as an actor... but he's bigger than the part. Same for Fassy. They're too famous, have too many great roles already.

i know it's 2016 and all, but "Jane Bond"?

ehh...

If only to ensure the glorious moment where Rush Limbaugh has a stroke and dies in the middle of his inevitable rage rant in response.

I get why people are arguing for it but I feel like Bond's character is so linked to his masculinity that it really isn't sexist to say it shouldn't be a woman. Should there be a female secret agent franchise? Obviously and it's kind of crazy that there hasn't been more attempted but I think changing Bond to a woman makes as much sense as making him a different nationality. It'll still work but it's not Bond.

if we're being honest, i don't really understand this whole recent fascination with seeing a black bond either.

not that i'm against it, it would obv be cool, but what's the point? why are folks so pressed about it?

why can't bond just be bond?

if people want to see a cool, suave, british secret agent who's black, or female, or middle-aged, or twenty-something, or whatever, just create a new character and a new franchise. no real reason to change bond into that person.

than necessarily wanting a spy who is Afro-Anglo in a separate spy film. (is Afro-Anglo the proper classification for a person of African decent who lives in or is from the UK?)

It's probably the same sentiment that came up with Donald Glover's name was mentioned as a potential actor to be Spiderman. The desire is more to see a character with a rich cultural history played by a non-white actor. A way to be culturally subversive.

I don't think a spy movie with a 'Black' spy film would really interesting to folks. That show with Nicole Beharie and Boris Kodjoe didn't go anywhere. Unless the idea was really brilliant, I couldn't see a movie being successful. I would like to be wrong tho.

i understand the subversion angle and i feel that, but when it comes to diversity i'd much rather see us create our own new properties rather than retrofitting the race/gender/age/sexual orientation of pre existing characters (and the silly public debates that invariably follow)

again, no issue with it, wouldn't be against it, just not my preference. i'd have loved to have seen idris as bond (5-10 yrs ago) but would rather see him develop a brand new character in a new franchise and make it just as iconic. make a black james bond, rather than making james bond black.

it's like that notion held by so many white folks who are afraid of an increase in diversity because it necessarily means that they're "losing" something. they don't have to lose for us to gain. bond is fine as is. they can have THEY shit, just let us have ours too.

and for god's sake, don't cast a black actor "just because". idris is really the only guy i can think of who would've fit. some of the other names being thrown out just feel like ppl want a black actor in the discussion, whether he's right for the part or not.

He's got the voice (as everyone's pointed out, he's the voice of Bond on some audio books or some shit), he's got the smooth demeanor, and he could definitely kick ass in some action scenes.

Though I'm also cool with just giving him or Idris or both their own thriller franchises. (Of course, the problem becomes that no one wants to fund a big-budget spy movie without the Bond name attached, which is why people want these actors to specifically play Bond... but I'd be all for way more spy franchises in an ideal world, just cuz I fucking love spy films.)

>and for god's sake, don't cast a black actor "just because".
>idris is really the only guy i can think of who would've fit.
>some of the other names being thrown out just feel like ppl
>want a black actor in the discussion, whether he's right for
>the part or not.

if he was about 6 inches taller. dude's a midget.

other than that, yeah he checks all the boxes.

He's listed at 5'10. Like hell. I've seen dude in person. That's as believable as Orlando Bloom's agency listing him at 5'11.

Another site lists Oyelowo at 5'7. That seems far more plausible. Emayatzy Corinealdi is listed at 5'7 too, and I was gonna say, unless Corinealdi is also 5'10, then Middle of Nowhere must have had her standing on an soapbox, lol.

he's 5'6"-5'7" tops.

>i know it's 2016 and all, but "Jane Bond"?
>
>ehh...

But there's really no reason to not have a Black Bond if he fits all the characteristics except the "look," which was already abandoned with Craig anyway.

*rolls eyes*

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Your response is kind of funny when coupled with your following post requiring someone good looking in the role. Since that's basically the entirety of the character: a man's man superspy.

Bond has pretty much been an icon for masculinity. It's a main part of his character. They toyed with it in these last ones by making his blunt instrument alpha male-ness an issue. Swapping genders for Bond would make as much impact IMO as changing Ripley or Sarah Connor into men. Changing Bond into a woman would be like changing Bourne into someone without amensia - you can do it but it's a completely different movie and really has very little to do with the franchise.

Usually, I do think you can switch genders and not make a huge difference (ala Ghostbusters) but, in some cases, the gender is a part of the character.

but the article nominates two females to take over a character who, as stated, has been masculinity defined.

copied and co-opted in real life and cinema, bond's a timeless icon. the ultimate male...in the flesh, bay-bay (c) thunderlips.

i feel like there's no need to transgenderbathroom this for equality's sake.

on the heels of 'haywire' and 'salt', i thought we might actually see a separate, legit female spy franchise take its course.

this can be mutually exclusive and happen w/out altering 007.

Especially because Ferguson or Mbatha-Raw, as I said above, would be more compelling spy leads than most any name being tossed out there.

I find the subversion angle and the storytelling angle endlessly compelling, and I think both of them would be goddamn great action leads.

If I thought they could get a big-budget spy franchise of their own without the brand of James Bond being attached, I'd be with that too. But since that's wildly unlikely, I'm all for making Bond a female to give these tremendous actresses in their prime the budgets they deserve.

>If I thought they could get a big-budget spy franchise of
>their own without the brand of James Bond being attached, I'd
>be with that too. But since that's wildly unlikely, I'm all
>for making Bond a female to give these tremendous actresses in
>their prime the budgets they deserve.

what about Bourne?

'cause those franchises, being far less connotative to gender, seem more plausible, and dare i say...sensible choices.

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- Y'all realize Idris would be PLAYING the role of Bond, not being an actual secret agent right? FOH with this age shit. They had old ass Harrison Ford playing Indiana Jones.

- Bond is a character, not a race. So what if he's black. Liz Taylor got to be Cleopatra and Anne Baxter Nefertiti a LONG fucking time before Christian Bale and that other white nigga played Gods of Egypt, so miss the fuck out of me with these "race appropriate" boxes

- It's James Bond, not Shakespeare. Guns, Gadgets, Girls, Goons, and Wheels. Stick to the formula.

>- Y'all realize Idris would be PLAYING the role of Bond, not
>being an actual secret agent right? FOH with this age shit.
>They had old ass Harrison Ford playing Indiana Jones.

...idris has himself said that he's too old for the role. a role that is *extremely* taxing from a physical standpoint:

"When asked if we’ll see him play Ian Fleming‘s suave super spy again, Craig had this to say:

"I’m contracted for one more – but I’m not going to make predictions. (Physically) It’s getting harder. But such is life. I’ll keep going as long as I’m physically able."

Daniel Craig is 47 years old, and the physical challenges these films require would probably put an actor half his age through the wringer. Spectre took eight months to shoot, which doesn’t account for the training Craig has to undergo before principal photography.

In a new interview with Time Out, the actor has a slightly different, and less optimistic, response as for whether he’ll come back for 25th installment in the franchise:

"Now? I’d rather break this glass and slash my wrists. No, not at the moment. Not at all. That’s fine. I’m over it at the moment. We’re done. All I want to do is move on."

http://www.dmarge.com/2016/07/james-norton-next-james-bond.html

Despite no official release date, there are still plenty of rumours circulating as to who will replace Daniel Craig as the next James Bond. While everyone from Idris Elba to Tom Hardy have been in the running, up until recently Thor’s Loki, Tom Hiddleston was a clear favourite.

Unfortunately, while Hiddleston has been busy globetrotting with new love Taylor Swift, a fresh face has snuck in to claim the highly anticipated role.

Meet James Norton, a British actor who, according to English bookies, originally ranked as an outsider but has had odds change dramatically in his favour from 25/1 to 2/5. In fact, Norton has out ranked Aidan Turner, Idris Elba and Damian Lewis to fill the shoes of Daniel Craig.

30-year-old James Norton has appeared in films like ‘An Education’ as well as TV series like ‘War and Peace’, ‘Happy Valley’ and ‘Grantchester’.

What does Daniel Craig think of Norton as a frontrunner? “I don’t give a f***…Good luck to them! All I care about is that if I stop doing these things we’ve left it in a good place and people pick it up and make it better. Make it better, that’s all.” Cheers for your input, Craig.

Apparently, no one is more delighted by the news of Norton’s rumoured role than his female fan base, with many tweeting under the hashtag #JamesNortonForBond. Best to keep your girlfriend well away from the betting on this one.