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710031, RE: part 2 aka i'll accept some Ls
Posted by astralblak, Sat Mar-26-16 02:22 PM


>By Devin Faraci Mar. 24, 2016

>Why didn’t Superman clean up the World Engine?
>One of the most surprising things we learn in Batman v
>Superman is that the Indian Ocean World Engine is… just
>sitting in the Indian Ocean. 18 months after destroying,
>it’s just sitting there. It’s hard to imagine that a giant
>alien spaceship, powered by god-knows-what that is leaking
>into the water, is good for the local ecosystem. And it’s
>hard to imagine that Superman believes leaving the alien tech
>to be scavenged by just anybody is a very good idea. So why
>doesn’t he clean it up? Hell, if he had cleaned it up the
>whole movie might not happen, since the Kryptonite would never
>have been an issue.
>
Superman is a scientist now? His character goes searching for environmental degradation? LOL. this is just a silly question. We also see what the kyptonite does to him, so he would just go scavengering for all the debris of it?

>Why is Lex Luthor equipping his death squads with
>‘experimental bullets’?

who fucn knows. I still don't get it...

>Lex has an overly complex and largely nonsensical plan to lure
>Superman into action in Africa, and he would have gotten away
>with it, too… if it wasn’t for the experimental bullets
>with which he equipped his mercenaries. What? Why would he do
>that? Even setting aside the fact that he basically left
>behind bullets that he all but personally signed, why go to
>the expense? These guys were never supposed to be in contact
>with Superman anyway, as if the bullets would even have
>stopped him. And don’t get me started on the fact that Jimmy
>Olsen, war atrocity victim, has a giant beeping tracking
>device in his camera like this was a 1960s spy caper.
>
it is such a stupid scene and I have no idea why it was the premise of the film in terms of why the pub hates Sups. just bad. L taken

>Why does anyone think Superman shot a whole bunch of people in
>Africa?

uhh, do they think this... aren't they just afraid he can take over their world?

>Lex’s plan involves creating an international incident by
>having Superman show up in this African village. For one
>thing, why would he expect that to even work? But let’s
>assume he pulls enough strings to make it happen - he bribes
>UN officials, he complains to senators, he hires ‘crisis
>actors’ to give testimony - why the hell would anyone think
>Superman shot all these guys? They’re all clearly shot dead.
>Superman, while no stranger to cold-blooded murder, definitely
>doesn’t need to use a gun to get the job done. No one even
>questions this? Like, it’s quite clear Superman had nothing
>to do with shooting a whole bunch of people.
>
>Why does Lex Luthor blow up the Senate hearing and kill his
>assistant?
>At least I think Mercy Graves is killed in the explosion.
>It’s hard to be sure, but she seems to disappear out of the
>film after that sequence.
>
cause the idea is that Sups puts people in danger and BANG. again WTF kinda question is this?

but yes, why the fuck did they kill off Mercy. up until that point in the film they were foreshadowing that she was important and has bwood has already explained, in the comics she's very important.

>At any rate, the important question is “What does Lex hope
>to gain by blowing the place up?” He already has the
>kryptonite in the country, so he doesn’t need to eliminate
>Senator Jar of Piss immediately or in a particularly grand
>manner. And everybody knows it was a suicide bombing as soon
>as it happens - it isn’t like people believe Superman went
>berserk in the Senate hearing. I’m not even sure why the
>bombing would turn public sentiment THAT starkly against
>Superman, which I guess is what Lex was trying to do? I’m
>not entirely sure what the point of THAT would be, either.
>
>Why does Superman stop Batman in the middle of clearly chasing
>bad guys and let the bad guys get away?
>As Batman is about to get the kryptonite from Lex’s goons
>Superman shows up, totals the Batmobile, threatens Batman and
>then flies away. Is Superman stupid? Did he not notice the
>running gun battle raging around him? Even if he thinks Batman
>is a menace he must understand the other dudes are also
>menaces, as they are firing automatic weapons. And yet
>Superman is way more concerned with chastising Batman. Again,
>the whole movie could have been wrapped up faster if Superman
>had stopped Lex’s goons and taken the kryptonite himself and
>thrown it into the sun or something.
>
again i'll take another L. during the film i let out an audible what.the.fuck. mad not one bit of sense. look at this common enemy we have Batman, but your vigilantism bothers me more! stupid earth-human!

>Why is the Knightmare in this movie at all?
>I know that BvS is setting up future films in the DC
>movieverse, but this sequence is so egregiously out of place
>and has so little bearing on the events of the film that its
>inclusion is nonsensical and pointless. It also makes no sense
>- Flash travels back in time to warn Batman in a dream? Huh?
>
yup as I stated, for as cool as it was and looked, not needed. another L

>Flash is hard to hear in this sequence, but he warns Batman
>that he was right all along, and that if Lois dies Superman
>goes bad. But that doesn’t come into play in the film ever;
>Batman never is concerned about Lois’ safety - he doesn’t
>even know she’s ever in danger. Batman never brings the
>incident up again. It has no impact on the story at all. If
>you removed it from the film nothing would change beyond the
>running time.
>
great point. i didn't even put those two together. L

>Why does Superman fight Batman if he doesn’t want to fight
>Batman?
>Superman goes to Gotham to get Batman to help him rescue
>Martha. I’m not entirely sure what he thinks Batman can do
>that he, a man with powers of flight, super speed, X-ray
>vision and super-hearing can’t, but that’s the plan. The
>problem is that Batman isn’t there to talk - he’s there to
>fight.
>
>So why does Superman fight him? Why does he keep advancing
>towards him after he sets off the first trap? Why does he
>flick him across the lot where they meet? Why throw Batman?
>Superman could just hold Batman down if he needed to and speak
>to him. Why is Superman such an asshole?
>
this is an incredibly nitpicky and dweeby question and pretty much means even in the comics they should have never fought. but in this movie, Bats outsmarts him and wants to quell Sups power; he is beyond talkin' at that point. also Sups is hella emotional, his momma is on the line

>Addendum: why does Clark Kent follow Bruce Wayne downstairs at
>the Luthor fundraiser if he has X-ray vision and could watch
>him from anywhere in the house?
>
yo! we know this is a power of Sups, but is it established in these two films that he has x-ray vision. but still another good catch

>Why does Lois Lane go back for the spear?
>I mean, I know why they need the spear, but how does Lois know
>that? What tells her that Doomsday is Kryptonian? How does she
>possibly know that the weapon will now be needed?
>
lol. another one I caught while watching. I was like yo she don't know they need it... smdh. her whole wack ass i could die drowning was completely unnecessary too

>Addendum: why does Batman lead Doomsday to Gotham? Why not
>just get the spear and come back to the uninhabited
>Stryker’s Island, where Doomsday can shoot off his undefined
>energy powers to his heart’s content? It's especially weird
>that Batman draws Doomsday to Gotham when his entire story
>begins with being angry at Superman fighting a massive battle
>among civilians.
>
Doomsday gunna follow him anyway right? not that big of plot hole

>Why does Lex Luthor create Doomsday, and why does he put his
>blood in the Matrix?
isn't his live human blood what creates Doomsday?

>Lex Luthor has little to no motivation beyond the fact that
>Lex Luthor always hates Superman in all media. I can,
>grudgingly, accept that. What I can’t wrap my head around is
>why this Lex Luthor would make an unstoppable killing machine
>and unleash it on the world. What’s his endgame in this
>scenario? What does tech billionaire Lex Luthor hope to gain
>from destroying Metropolis and who knows what else?
>
good question


>Why didn’t Wonder Woman kill Doomsday?
>In a moment of heroic self-sacrifice Superman picks up the
>spear (of destiny. Yay, another shitty Christ allusion for a
>character who isn’t Christlike) and flies it right into the
>heart of Doomsday. Weakened, Superman is impaled on
>Doomsday’s spike, and he pulls himself further up the spike
>in order to drive the spear into the beast’s heart. Both
>die.
>
another great question. after she cut dude's hand off i was like "hey Sups just give the fine ass woman who is as indestructible as you the spear. she seems to be able to get him now and then and you get all weak and shit

>But they didn’t have to, at least not as presented in the
>film. Wonder Woman could have done it, or at least given it a
>shot. We saw that she could take a full blast from Doomsday
>and get up smiling, so why not let the person who will not be
>automatically weakened by proximity to the weapon give it a
>try? Instead she stands around watching, her lasso fairly
>ineffectual on Doomsday who manages to still impale Superman.
>
agreed

>In the original Death of Superman story all of the other
>heroes were defeated by Doomsday, leaving Superman and the
>behemoth alone to go toe-to-toe in an epic slugfest where they
>basically beat each other to death. Superman had no other
>option but to take it all the way - there was no one left to
>help him. In BvS an unwounded Wonder Woman stands to the side
>gawking as Superman pointlessly gives up his life.
>
Longo made a great point somewhere in here that Sups death was utterly pointless and the wedding ring in the mail shit made me roll my eyes hard