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706439, LOL! Yet again, you offer no insight or perspective
Posted by Cold Truth, Mon Dec-28-15 12:22 PM
from your own brain and that’s telling.

First of all, I know the definition of a plot hole.

Second, you’re looking at that definition in a very rigid way and there’s a context to what does and does not constitute a plot hole starting with an objective view of the world you’re in. A true plot hole has to go against the rules set within the world you’re talking about.

So, to start with, pretty much everything about Star Wars as a whole is unbelievable. The force, lightsabers, all that shit.

Further, several things mentioned in that list are nothing more than questions the writer has.

A good example:

37. If basically everyone in the Galaxy knows the Force is not a myth -- for instance, every single Stormtrooper in the First Order, who has seen Kylo Ren use it or heard tell of him using it; every single person in the Resistance, who knows the Resistance is looking for Luke Skywalker; every single person in the Republic, which was first established in part by the heroism of the Jedis -- how is the existence of the Force a total shock to Rey? Jakku is sheltered, but as we know from the film (cf. Lor San Tekka) there are many people on Jakku who either have seen the Force first-hand or heard first-hand accounts of it from visitors to the planet.

A few things: how does he arrive at the conclusion that everyone in the galaxy knows the force is not a myth? That’s an assumption on his part and definitely NOT an assertion made in the film. In fact, THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. Quite clearly, everyone DOES NOT know it’s real. So, this “plot hole” was based on an assumption made by the writer that was definitively NOT made in the film and yet he uses this factually baseless assumption as the basis for his criticism despite the film ACTUALLY showing us that not everyone does. He even explains part of this himself- Jakku is sheltered and to extrapolate further, Rey is very clearly more sheltered than the rest.

It’s like modern day religion; YOU, as a pastor, may claim to have witnessed the hand of god and heard his voice and seen miracles and all that but to those outside that particular circle, it’s just a bunch of stories. There’s absolutely NO reason this wouldn’t reasonably be the case in this film. The fact that this isn’t spelled out for you in crystal clear terms one way or another is NOT a plot hole.

It’s something that, at best, would be open for interpretation except that the film made it perfectly clear that Rey was unaware that any of this was real. She was clearly aware of the stories, but thought it to be a myth- much the way many believe the stories within the Bible to be a myth.

I mean, that’s just for starters. LOL@”don’t be mad” at your half assed cut & pasting, no critical thought having ass post.