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706000, Fine movie, but reviews on BOTH SIDES are OFF. Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Dec-20-15 03:19 PM
The negative comments are off, because nitpicking about lineage and politics and who had what baby, or how much it's like Ep 4 isn't relevant. None of those are the issues with the movie.
The praise is off, because this movie isn't in the same planet as 4,5,6 in any basic measure of filmmaking: pacing is hokey, the interactions are mostly hokey, the story is clumsy.
It's a hokey, clumsy, awkward movie.
A very good, fun, beautiful, hokey, clumsy movie.
But it lacks the sheen of the 4,5,6. There's no real excuse for that, so people who love the movie need to stop trying to explain it with "well, it set everything up well." I don't care. It was hokey. That's doesn't mean it's bad. But it's a hokey dokey movie with very clumsy order of events.
Everything feels like a film where the point is to fit as much interesting shit as possible into two hours+. It doesn't feel like there are characters who autonomously and organically stumble on interesting events because they operate in an interesting world. That is how the original trilogy was. There were actual characters dealing with stuff. They happened to come together. And these cool things unfolded.
This movie lacked that.
This is why none of the performances are convincing: no one ever really looks surprised, because they aren't. The actors act like they are in a Star Wars movie. They know it. We know it. And so they don't really come across as convincing people (Finn comes close). It's just bunch of charismatic people (and good actors) being shuttled between super important events.
The old characters were the worst, because none of the give a shit anymore. Having them play such a big role was a HUGE mistake story-wise. They all mailed in their performances because they don't care. Like, how passionate do you think Fisher and Ford were in doing that scene about their breakup? Both looked like they wanted nothing to do with it.
This trilogy is going to be fun, but Star Wars is done as being interesting or relevant. The mythology is dead.
In some ways, the clumsiness of this movie makes me rethink how bad the prequels were. Maybe pulling this off is just difficult. And so maybe we were just too hard on Lucas.
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