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714693, RE: Flawed but pretty enjoyable.
Posted by phenompyrus, Mon Aug-08-16 11:07 AM
>>I've been a fan of the Suicide Squad comic book for a
>little
>>while, especially the original John Ostrander run on the
>book
>>which is phenomenal. I can't believe a movie based on these
>>characters has been made. Deadshot and Harley Quinn were
>>awesomely portrayed, and even getting to see Amanda Waller
>and
>>Captain Boomerang (what??) on the big screen was pretty
>cool.
>>
>>Was it flawed? Very much so. The editor job at Warner's DC
>>division needs to be fired immediately, and have some more
>>balls when standing up to the brass. The Ultimate Edition
>of
>>BvS was much better than the theatrical version, I suspect
>>this 'Ultimate Edition', if it ever gets released, would be
>>pretty amazing.
>
>The problems goes beyond the editing. There a post up above
>detailing in full what happened.

Oh I understand, I'm just saying that editing the 'final cuts' of these movies would have resulted in better overall films... More of a reaffirmation of the one point.

> I wanted more Joker (Leto was good but what
>>little we saw was NOT enough), thought Enchantress was weak
>>(but not as bad as I'm reading here... poor Delevingne did
>>what she could),
>
>Dawg, you can't tell me with a straight face that Enchantress
>isn't as bad as we made her out to be. She was literally doing
>a fucked up belly dance during the climax. She had a pissed
>poor plan and holy shit at June Moon. An archeologist thinks
>it's a good idea to break off the head of ancient totem? Fuck.
>outta. here.

I'm not disagreeing with you... I damn near laughed out loud at watching her convulse on screen like a hula hoop instructor. I'm just saying that the villain wasn't as bad as "worst ever"... I mean, the ending of last year's Fantastic Four had whatever the fuck Dr. Doom that was supposed to be and BvS had LoTR cave troll Doomsday. And what about Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy in Batman & Robin? Or Tommy Lee Jones doing his best to sink himself with that Two Face portrayal in Batman Forever? Listen, I'm not sitting here trying to defend it blindly, but it's not as bad as all that bullshit.

> and would have liked more background on
>>others besides Deadshot and Harley (who we actually got a
>>brief glimpse of in her comic book/TV show costume!). I
>also
>>keep in mind how little we learned of most of the X-Men
>>characters in all of their movies (save Wolverine), and
>those
>>movie always fared better with critics and audiences, so the
>>hate here is a little strange.
>
>X-MEN has been getting for the exact same shit lately. At
>least each X-Man got a moment to shine. Kantana, Killer Croc,
>and Captain Boomerang do nothing and add nothing.

It has. I can't argue this either, I was talking more of it was cool to simply see characters like this get realized on screen at all. Cable has never been on screen in any form, and we got Captain Boomerang? Really?

>>While it was easy to say "why have this team put together to
>>fight a couple of witches when Flash or Wonder Woman could
>>have fought her themselves", the very first comic book
>mission
>>these characters came together for was to fight a skyscraper
>>sized demon from Apokolips. Read Legends #3 for the first
>>appearance of the Suicide Squad to see how the team was
>>originally portrayed, and for them to go head-to-head with a
>>gigantic fire monster.
>>
>
>
>This my problem right here. What works in a comic 80% of the
>time never works in a movie. That's where adaptation comes in
>and making it work instead of plastering the shit on screen.

Absolutely. However, we are talking about a movie of a group of C-list villains being sent into the city for a mission of any kind in the first place. As a fan of the original comic book, it was nice to see them combat a villain as hammy and ridiculous as this, similarly to the ridiculous villain they fought in Legends. Fanboy-ish? Yep, but fuggit.

>>I liked it, despite its problems, and hope we'll get to see
>>the movie that could have been.
>>
>>Trust me, I'm just pretty surprised that I liked the movie
>at
>>all with the hate DC has been given, seeing as how I'm a
>>Marvel fanboy first and foremost.
>
>But, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope people spending money
>always enjoy it.

I wish it was always that easy, but I hear you. I went in with lower expectations (as I did with X-Men: Apocalypse) and enjoyed them both. Same happened with BvS, and that didn't turn out well. I'm trying to see the benefits and disadvantages to reading good and bad reviews for movies like this before and after viewing said movie. Hell, your movie reviews are some of the ones I look forward to reading before any of these flicks come out.