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688613, RE: I saw this a second time now - remains excellent (spoilers)
Posted by bwood, Sat Nov-15-14 04:36 PM
>This is an excellent film and will likely be in critics top
>ten at the end of the year. It should be nominated in awards
>season. JK Simmons for Best Supporting Actor at the Oscars
>hands down. Am I right in thinking this is a Supporting Role -
>or is it a Co-Lead role? Seems to me Miles Teller is the lead
>actor in the film.
>
>However, as I felt the first time there are some mis-steps in
>the film. Spoilers below.
>
>Would Fletcher have been able to get away with such treatment
>of his students for so long? I ask this as a non-American and
>don't know how stuff goes down at Colleges or Conservatories
>but there was a lot of blatant verbal bullying going on. Are
>students just expected to take it in high pressure
>environments? Fletcher slapping Andrew's face in front of
>everyone, is that realistic?

Yes. These kids wanted to be in this band badly. Why would any of them snitch?

>
>The part in the film where Andrew is promoted to main drummer,
>after he misplaces the previous drummer's sheet music is
>handled wrongly, it doesn't make sense that the sheet music
>can get lost/taken in a matter of moments. The way it should
>have been written is the original drummer loses the sheet
>music or Andrew loses it on purpose or Fletcher picks it up at
>the vending machine. The way it is portrayed as just getting
>lost in the film is weak.
>

No. I'm betting Fletcher took it on purpose. And as we can see from early Fletcher blames the individual for their own shortcomings not anyone else. And before you get to the kid with the trombone we can already tell he didn't like him, or else the kid who was out of tune would have been out.

>The car crash is totally unnecessary and stretches the
>audiences belief - the situation should have been modified in
>the screenplay to make the same result - Andrew gets cut by
>Fletcher.
>

No. It added tension and was the main reason for Andrew fucking up and getting cut. He was physically unable to play.

>The third act is brilliant, especially with the plot swerve.
>
>The camera work throughout the film is excellent. Chazelle is
>going to have a great career as a film maker.
>
>As someone posted in this thread earlier this is the best
>action film of the year and there aren't even any explosions.