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683239, Common just made me realize something about acting/casting Posted by sersey, Sun Aug-03-14 12:52 PM
Some actors are cast explicitly to play themselves. And I don't mean in a... I'm a rapper playing a rapper kind of way. But Ina way where the actor is not required to dig deep or show any kind of range to portray what the director is looking for.
See Fredro Starr in the Wire, Method Man in The Wire, DMX in any of his feature films. They are all doing them, regardless of the character's archetype.
I look at Commons career as an actor and wonder how he's gone beyond random cameos and been successful at it.
That Comm/Queen Latifah flick- it's just Common in basketball shorts
He'll On Wheels- Common in western gear.
and the flick that prompted this post- RIPD... Common in a suit, with the same mannerisms, inflections, and accent that we've known him for since the 90s.
So I guess my "no shit" moment of the day comes from realizing that while some successful actors don't have very good acting chops at all...a great natural build, look, and voice encompass something that directors can repeatedly use for a myriad of characters without asking much of the actor themselves....
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683247, http://i57.tinypic.com/2vaf6nn.jpg Posted by TheWhiteMedia, Sun Aug-03-14 02:44 PM
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683287, You could say the same thing about almost everyone Posted by icecold21, Sun Aug-03-14 11:45 PM
Will Smith Denzel De Niro Sam L. Marky Mark Keanu etc.
Not every time, but a lot of the time, they basically play the same kind of character.
Look at someone like Gary Oldman, that dude can play anything and its completely different.
Point is most actors still show a lot of themselves in every role.
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683309, I'd say play the same character rather than playing themselves. Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Aug-04-14 09:09 AM
Truth is we don't know the "true" Will Smith enough to know whether he is playing himself or the same character but yeah, everything you said.
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683418, nah, Wil play lot's of different characters - I've seen a fraction of his Posted by c71, Tue Aug-05-14 07:03 PM
movies
Six degrees of separation: gay con-man
Men in black: (maybe that might have been just Will)
Hancock: egotisical jaded superhero
Pursuit of happyness: a struggling father
7 pounds: depressed, suicidal man
Hitch: some sort of relationship guru
Ali: do I really have to list more?
yeah After Earth flopped but I'm sure that character wasn't the same as "six degrees" and "Hitch" or "Wild wild west" or "7 pounds" or "Hancock"
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683302, Common, in particular, is such a terrible actor Posted by ternary_star, Mon Aug-04-14 07:33 AM
he must score really well with test audiences or something cuz he's fucking abysmal on screen but they keep giving him roles
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683320, completely agree Posted by xangeluvr, Mon Aug-04-14 10:09 AM
>he must score really well with test audiences or something >cuz he's fucking abysmal on screen but they keep giving him >roles
its really hard for me to not cringe at every damn scene he's in.
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683329, its painful to watch Posted by RobOne4, Mon Aug-04-14 12:12 PM
at this point if he is cast in a movie or tv show I dont even watch it. It shows that at least one terrible decision was made and I dont want to see what others were made.
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683351, one of *the* worst actors ever Posted by will_5198, Mon Aug-04-14 04:36 PM
at least of those with his number of speaking parts. earnestly horrible at everything he does on-screen.
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683355, 2 words explain why Com gets parts Posted by Wordman, Mon Aug-04-14 05:50 PM
1. Black 2. Women
The toughest "outside" demographic to crack - and he does.
"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams
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683395, Y'all have insert whatever hot actress y'all like *here* Posted by lfresh, Tue Aug-05-14 01:20 PM
We have common That man foine So is Brad
Let there be as many foine ass none acting ass men as there are women ~~~~ When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries. ~~~~ You cannot hate people for their own good.
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683399, Or, more likely, he has hella good management that gets him work Posted by ZooTown74, Tue Aug-05-14 02:15 PM
LUV was his best performance but nobody but me saw that movie
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683422, Argh it's on netflix Posted by lfresh, Tue Aug-05-14 07:58 PM
~~~~ When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries. ~~~~ You cannot hate people for their own good.
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683436, I agree, "LUV" was Common's best performance. Posted by J-Elijah, Wed Aug-06-14 02:29 AM
I saw "LUV" in the theater when it was released and I agree, Common gave his best performance in that film. It was so interesting to see the original Sister from "Sparkle", Lonette McKee playing his mom.
But I have to say most rappers who become actors are not very good. They have no training, like true thespians Viola Davis or Denzel Washington who went to drama school and paid their dues doing theatre and Broadway, and they don't take the craft seriously. There are a few exceptions like 2Pac and Will Smith (7 Pounds, Pursuit of Happiness). Rappers need to perfect their craft doing theater then they should transition into film.
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683402, He is bald black and angry looking Posted by ShinobiShaw, Tue Aug-05-14 03:42 PM
He probably scare white folks when they see him in IMAX and test marketers like a reaction good or bad.
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683417, Common fucked no fewer than 8 women you were spending $ on Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Aug-05-14 06:29 PM
And you couldn't get a tongue kiss
You wimpy ass sissy poo
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683332, This, I think, is why the term "character actor" is an important distinction... Posted by Brew, Mon Aug-04-14 12:54 PM
for actors like Stephen Root, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Christopher Walken, Stephen Buscemi etc....because they actually ACT and don't just portray themselves wearing different clothes.
I think some people can still be really, really good onscreen by displaying a wide range of emotions in their limited roles, and things like that. But I'm always more impressed and likely to follow the lesser known but more talented people like the ones listed above. Any movie or show they are in I tend to check for.
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683356, 2 things Posted by Wordman, Mon Aug-04-14 05:58 PM
1 - yeah, no shit. But welcome to the party.
2 - What you're talking about is "names." If they're a "name" - they don't have to ACT. "Names" are: *Actors who became movie stars and are subsequently bigger than the films they're in. *Rappers *Athletes *Benefits of nepotism *Comedians *Celebrities
Common's a bona fide "name" - but be grateful, it could be worse.
"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams
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683369, he isnt a name though Posted by RobOne4, Tue Aug-05-14 12:09 AM
I mean he started to get popular then he jumped ship and went into cinema. He might be recognizable with black people but he definitely isnt known like that in other demos. He definitely isnt bigger than the movies he is in.
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683406, anybody popular in one medium who jumps to another Posted by Wordman, Tue Aug-05-14 04:31 PM
is a name.
"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams
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683371, LMAOOO @ fucking COMMON being used as the example Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Aug-05-14 01:02 AM
As if DOZENS OF WHITE "actors" didn't do this for decades and YOU niggas said NOTHING
Fucking punks
Seriously
You guys are chumps, straight up
Wimps
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683392, Thank you. Posted by Airbreed, Tue Aug-05-14 12:51 PM
Meanwhile, Eminem gets high praise for that master thespian piece called 8 Mile.
Fucking ridiculous.
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683396, Because he's handsome Posted by lfresh, Tue Aug-05-14 01:25 PM
Can't even count the amount of women that have made careers off their looks Because of these same fools But now these fools are acting connoisseurs Right No one believes them Way too late for this shit now ~~~~ When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries. ~~~~ You cannot hate people for their own good.
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683413, Yeah it's that John Cusack shit. Posted by Invisiblist, Tue Aug-05-14 05:42 PM
But Common is attractive and fairly easy to get along with.
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683429, So what about Mos Def??? Posted by walihorse, Tue Aug-05-14 11:02 PM
Can anyone say he wasn't good in Hitchhikers, Be Kind Rewind and Something the Lord Made?
seems like commons been in more movie than him..
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