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677237, Californication - The Final Season
Posted by ZooTown74, Wed Apr-23-14 01:55 PM
Michael Imperioli as an asshole show runner is inspired casting

Because the story now is that Hank allegedly had an illegitimate son by Heather Graham, and buddy's a weirdo. And also Hank gets a job working on a TV show. And since this is TV, everything that happens in the writer's room is exaggerated for comedic effect. Three episodes in, and we can thank our lucky stars that there haven't been any young blondes implausibly throwing themselves at David Duchovny... yet. So, that's a plus.

And God bless Pamela Adlon and Evan Handler, man, they have literally been playing the same "lol Runkle's limp dick lol" beat for 3 episodes (not to mention previous seasons). But they're still fun to watch, and I'm still on board for a Runkles spinoff...

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677240, I love the show.
Posted by CaptNish, Wed Apr-23-14 02:16 PM
But this season is pretty bad so far. Not season three bad. But pretty bad.

(there's 3 episodes? Why have I only caught 2? I gotta get on that)
677241, New episodes go up on Showtime On Demand and Showtime Anytime
Posted by ZooTown74, Wed Apr-23-14 03:53 PM
the week before they air

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677243, Sonofa.... lol Thanks for the heads up.
Posted by CaptNish, Wed Apr-23-14 04:17 PM
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677249, *tips cap*
Posted by ZooTown74, Wed Apr-23-14 06:39 PM
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680599, Haven't dug this season, but this week's episode....
Posted by CaptNish, Thu Jun-12-14 11:47 AM
...was stellar. Any time they do a dinner/bottle episode, they knock it out of the park.
681061, Season Sucks
Posted by CanUooooFeeLiT, Fri Jun-20-14 11:19 PM
Hate that some of favorite shows are and have gone out like this. Bad season. I'm having hard time forcing myself to watch this season.
681065, RE: Season Sucks
Posted by boyd, Sat Jun-21-14 01:16 AM
agreed. they should have ended 3 seasons ago.
it became a void of nothingness
681074, One episode took me out of 7 seasons
Posted by KingMonte, Sat Jun-21-14 09:30 AM
I was with it.
Then the hospital waiting room flashback episode.
After 7 seasons, in one episode I got up from the table like a blackjack dealer in a casino.
I'm so close to the end...I'll finish it, but if Hank is bearded in a cabin with Dexter in the finale, I may have to swear off Showtime series...after Masters of Sex...

edit: 7 seasons
681076, questions for you guys who've watched from the beginning?
Posted by DJ007, Sat Jun-21-14 10:41 AM
Is it worth diving into and giving a shot? It always reminded me of Dream On(HBO)- which I loved, think I will enjoy this series?
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681083, Watch, then when you recognize a pattern, bail
Posted by KingMonte, Sat Jun-21-14 12:51 PM
681088, Watch seasons 1 & 2 definitely
Posted by CaptNish, Sat Jun-21-14 09:06 PM
Season 4 was pretty good too. Season 5 was fun for RZA. Season six wasn't that great, but is much better than seasons 3 & 7. Season three had a great final episode, but otherwise plays like fanfiction. And this season (7) has almost made me forget that I ever loved the show.
681100, I honestly can't even differentiate the seasons at this point
Posted by Bombastic, Sun Jun-22-14 07:56 AM
It's all the same show to me, I still watch, it's a breezy twenty-five minutes (aside from the awful flashback episodes) but I don't take it all that serious.
681109, 4 & 5 blend together for me.
Posted by CaptNish, Sun Jun-22-14 02:31 PM
And every time I think about 6, I have to wiki it because I forget all about the Atticus season (even though it was only last season). 3 I remember as god awful, but introduced me to Susan Sarandon's Daughter's big juggs, so it holds a high place in my mind, and two is the best thing they've do...

RIP Lew Ashby
681156, this is where i'm at with it
Posted by makaveli, Mon Jun-23-14 03:43 PM
i'll watch it if it's on and it can be enjoyable but i don't care if i miss it.
681215, I lightweight fux w/ Levon; Runkle is the GOAT tho
Posted by placee_22, Tue Jun-24-14 10:24 PM
681672, ho my god. so glad this shit is over. I can exhale.
Posted by double negative, Thu Jul-03-14 10:06 PM
what a shitty ending.

i was expecting hanks son to cut his dumb hair and take a page out of his pops book

beccas absence just kinda made the show not so good

and that last scene in the airplane? what the fuck

and who in the fuck just leaves a new porchse on the street like that...i dont care how much money you have that is just foolish
681689, *fart noise*
Posted by CaptNish, Fri Jul-04-14 10:50 AM
I agree with Duchovney. Hank shoulda died in the end. Was the only logical outcome. This ending was no different than every other year that Hank and Karen seemed to maybe be headed in the right direction together. And maybe that's the point. But it wasn't satisfying at all.

But hey, "Rocket Man."

Runkle and Marcy's conclusion on the other hand was kinda perfect.

Double D was doing a wrap interview with I wanna say ROLLING STONE and said how one of the things he enjoyed about the course of the series is how everyone ended up quirkier and more fucked up than Hank, and that he kind of became the voice of reason, and it got me thinking that this was EXACTLY what the problem with the show over the duration of the series was for me. Hank is such a fundamentally fucked up character with a spinning moral compass, that to make everyone crazier than he is means to send people into the fucking stratosphere of quirk. It might have worked for an episode. It might even have worked for a season. But doing it since season 3? Too much.

I'll miss the show if only for the characters. Handler was amazing in this role. Adlon is fantastic in everything she does (I crush) and she was amazing here. And David Duchovney successfully made me forget about Fox Mulder (speaking of which, how did we never get a Gillian Anderson cameo? That seems like it'd write itself). It was an okay show with great characters.

And much like Charlie Brown never getting to kick the football... poor Eddie Nero never got to have Hank in his mouth...
681690, I kinda agree but you skipped over the part of the interview where
Posted by ZooTown74, Fri Jul-04-14 11:54 AM
he said that Hank was at his wildest only in the first season. So if the complaint is that he was this wild character who eventually ended up being out-wilded by everybody else - which in your mind ultimately made him unredeemable - you're saying you only enjoyed that first season, and nothing else after.

It's also worth mentioning that the only reason he wanted him to die was because he drank and smoked too much. He also mentioned that the idea was tossed around but never really brought into play, which, good, because it's kinda nihilistic and cynical and completely goes against the spirit/theme/message of the show, which is that, despite how screwed up people are, they do and should get chances to start over, to make amends, to do the right thing by those they love. To me, that's more realistic and "logical" than having a so-called happy ending ripped away because it's allegedly what the character "deserved."

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681693, But that's only because season 2.....
Posted by CaptNish, Fri Jul-04-14 02:49 PM
>he said that Hank was at his wildest only in the first
>season.

...he was out wild-ed by Lew Ashby. Who I loved.

>you're saying you only enjoyed that first
>season, and nothing else after.

First and second. Second more than first. The rest I liked for the love of the characters.

>it's kinda nihilistic
>and cynical

Yes. The spirit of the character. I liked him better as a self-destructive, Bukowski-type character. And I know he had to over come that for his growth as a character. But realization, redemption then death always seemed to be the poetic way he'd burn out.

>and completely goes against the
>spirit/theme/message of the show, which is that, despite how
>screwed up people are, they do and should get chances to start
>over, to make amends, to do the right thing by those they
>love.

Yep. CRAZY LITTLE THING CALLED LOVE.

> To me, that's more realistic and "logical" than having
>a so-called happy ending ripped away because it's allegedly
>what the character "deserved."

You thought that ending was "happy?" I'd say it's optimistic more than happy. Happy would've been much worse (Karen unrealistically takes him back or they get married). But they way it ended (to me) seemed more like the end of a chapter, not the end of the story.

I just didn't enjoy the season. I liked the Levon storyline. I rolled my eyes at it when it was introduced, but once they got into it and I saw how it played out, I got behind it. And the Marcy/Charlie/Stu storyline was great (though maybe a bit too long). I don't know... Just didn't click for me. Sorry.