I thought there was a post already, but I've been doing some trimming of the boards over the weekend, and it may have gone bye bye. Apologies to whoever posted the original one.

EDIT: The trailer is here: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/watch-first-full-trailer-for-david-finchers-gone-girl-starring-ben-affleck-rosamund-pike-more-20140413

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Today the full trailer drops. I'll add it to this post when it does. Until then, we have a poster:

http://d1oi7t5trwfj5d.cloudfront.net/75/70/f016c6ce4d17be54c7710b4faf45/gone-girl-poster.jpg

We also have the ET teaser for the trailer: http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/04/11/gone-girl-first-footage-video/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh9URbqihgc

the score will be good at least


>I thought there was a post already, but I've been doing some
>trimming of the boards over the weekend, and it may have gone
>bye bye. Apologies to whoever posted the original one.

it was your fellow moderator: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:KdcxnHiJS6oJ:board.okayplayer.com/okp.php%3Faz%3Dshow_topic%26forum%3D6%26topic_id%3D655513%26mesg_id%3D655513%26page%3D4+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

http://www.deadline.com/2014/07/gone-girl-trailer-ben-affleck-david-fincher-fox/

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Fincher is my favorite director

he's had an awesome run. it only crept up on me a few years ago that he'd become one of my favorite directors as well.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fp-9cgcRHE

Plan accordingly

Also, reviews are starting to trickle in: Variety's appears to be a rave (I skimmed); the Hollywood Reporter appears to be a little more muted with the praise (again, I skimmed); Indiewire's appears to be decidedly mixed and really mad that Fincher was handling this material

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>Indiewire's appears to be decidedly mixed and really mad that
>Fincher was handling this material

He seems perfect for it from the trailers & what I've read of the script so far

This was a better executed adaptation than Dragon Tattoo, but this shit was tha bizness.

There's one scene that was more brutal, horrifying, and gory than what was in the book. And it made it even more shocking.

Can't wait to peep this joint again as I was distracted cause Rosamund Pike was sitting next to me during the screening.

>This was a better executed adaptation than Dragon Tattoo, but
>this shit was tha bizness.
>
>There's one scene that was more brutal, horrifying, and gory
>than what was in the book. And it made it even more shocking.
>
>Can't wait to peep this joint again as I was distracted cause
>Rosamund Pike was sitting next to me during the screening.


but you ain't get them Rosamund Pike digits though?!

I so can't wait to see this over the weekend!

>but you ain't get them Rosamund Pike digits though?!
>

I would've smashed her in front of everyone in my guild. Dead serious.

She smelt good too.

Damn damn damn James...

>>but you ain't get them Rosamund Pike digits though?!
>>
>
>I would've smashed her in front of everyone in my guild. Dead
>serious.
>
>She smelt good too.
>
>Damn damn damn James...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

As a married man i can sit right here and tell you, I'd have no ball control sitting that close to her.

NONE.

...so, so tight...

No message

and I didn't even realize that was Nora from The Leftovers!

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And I mean that as a compliment.

I haven't read the book and knew little coming in but I was gripped for the mystery of the first half then for entirely different reasons in the second. Affleck is perfectly cast, Rosamund Pike does her thing and Tyler Perry is going to surprise a lot of people. I was mostly surprised at funny/satirical it was—I was expecting a "The Vanishing" style psychological thriller and got something entirely different, and probably better.

And yeah, that Reznor score is brilliantly crazymaking.

it is very informative.

https://vimeo.com/107779620

And this is funny.

I could gripe that certain caricatures are broader than necessary, I could gripe at the flatness of the ending (which I know is the point, but all the same), I could gripe about certain points being Spelled Out In Caps when the movie's most diabolically funny and viciously insightful moments are smaller and more clever (the first press conference is masterfully entertaining filmmaking, with the "Louder" and the smile and the parents' outstandingly written comments).

But really, I wouldn't dwell on those things, because overall it's nasty fun. Looks great, sounds great, perfectly cast all around. Excellent work, Fincher's best since Social Network (and maybe a top three film from him in my book... maybe).

>Excellent work, Fincher's best since Social Network
>(and maybe a top three film from him in my book... maybe).

Seven and Fight Club aren't going anywhere.

But it's in a tight race with Zodiac.

Unsurprisingly, as they are easily the sharpest scripts he's ever worked with.

I'm not a big Fincher guy though. This is a top three for me, but it's, like, a three out of four star flick.

(mild spoilers below)

Fincher and Reznor did it again.

Affleck is on a role.

Pike killed it. Holy shit, what a fucking psycho.

Solid twists that weren't too contrived at all. But the most unexpected thing was probably Tyler Perry providing a decent performance. Or Affleck's random penis.

Pretty much followed the book but with slight tweaks on the last 10-15 minutes or so

It's also funnier than expected, which includes the fantastic score, even though the book was also a snappy satire on the modern media frenzy phenomenon.

To that point, Affleck put a little extra on the (paraphrased) line, "They love you then they hate you." I've read reviews that find fault with the fact that he's taken over the story, which the reviewer believes is the opposite of what happens in the book. But that's not true, if only for the fact that he's reacting to pretty much everything that's going on. His casting was perfect, and he was very good.

The story is being driven by Amy, even in flashback. I dug Rosamund Pike's performance a lot. There wasn't a lot of "emotional depth" that would have made us better understand her motivations for doing what she's doing, but then again, "emotional depth" is not this story's calling card, in either book or movie form.

Carrie Coon was dope. Kim Pickens and Patrick Fugit were solid. Tyler was fine. I thought anything relating to Desi was a weak link, but NPH was ok, given the flimsy character he was given. Some of the dialogue was also a bit obvious but not enough to seriously irritate me. Gillian's making a point here about us dudez, which is why any critical accusations of "misogyny" are kinda weird.

The movie's twisted and fun. And no, it wasn't too long. I have married friends who need to see this, and when they do I'm sure there will be many guffaws of recognition.

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... was in... Vulture, I think.

In essence, it said the biggest problem regarding the film's "misogyny" (the author did not feel the book was misogynistic in the slightest... or, rather, it is, but as it also hates all men, it's okay) is that it took a book that was told evenly from two perspectives and tilted the scale in the film, as much more of the movie is from the POV of the male character.

It still didn't really read the film as "misogynistic," but it admitted it's harder to defend the film from these accusations when, despite the scale-tilt being completely necessary in order to preserve the First Big Twist, the tilt nevertheless is present. The movie does tilt more towards Nick than Amy in terms of "sympathy."

It's weird to think in terms of sympathy at all with any of these characters, really. It's very complex material in terms of Gender Statements... which makes some's dismissal of the book as "airport novel trash" all the more hilarious.

every character is a basic stereotype example.

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I said it's complex in terms of Gender Statement. If you want to try to unpack what it's saying about gender, especially women (if you think it's saying anything at all), then there's plenty of material here for arguments/counter-arguments. Flynn came up with a female lead one person could view as boldly feminist and another could view as a hateful misogynist depiction-- and both would have ample evidence at their disposal.

Again, that's if you think it wants to make a statement on gender at all, that perhaps it's merely good pulpy trashy fun and reading farther into it is a moot point-- that the perceived "complexity" is a result of Flynn not thinking whatsoever about shaping an argument one way or the other.

>Flynn came up with a female lead one person could view as boldly feminist and another could view as a hateful misogynist depiction-- and both would have ample evidence at their disposal.

but I don't think it's saying anything at all. it seems to me, to be trying to be deeper than it is. you can't have a complex story with so many 1-dimensional characters

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amazing performance ,she had me shook..wow just wow...wow!
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Didn't have her "go crazy" and act like a nutbar, she just stared at the screen. It was so much more chilling than if it had been loud and showy.

That was the most disturbing and fucked up movie I've ever seen and I've seen and I mean that as a compliment! The third act fucked me and my pregnant wife up, I'm still in shock! Hell we almost (playfully) considered divorce as the credits were rolling!

Bravo Flynn & Fincher!

And what Tyler's character said at the coffee shop...lmao!!!!

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He was good in the role too!

This shit was great. Laugh Out loud funny in places, and really creatively shot.

Affleck is pretty good with picking scripts, and he's gradually working his way into the "i trust his choices, outright" category. TP was good in his role too.

Fincher is one hell of a director

I'm checking out the book next week

"White Woman Tears Iz Powerful: The Movie"

Her mother orchestrated her life in the "Amazing Amy" books so it's only right that she orchestrates her own not up to par life in her own narcissistic, psychotic way.

My favorite part of the movie is when the credits start rolling and a woman in the theater says, "I want to punch her in her fucking face!"

Not a bad movie at all, but I'm afraid to call it good because I feel like it would give the impression that it wasn't as disturbing as it was.

Cause Gone Girl was hilarious. It was dark, and twisted and fun and clever and suspenseful. Fincher flexing his muscles. Masterful work. Pike and Affleck were both beyond exceptional. Carrie Coon continues her revelatory year. Casey Wilson was excellent comic relief. NPH's character seemed a bit schizophrenic but he seemed right for the part. The only part for his character that seemed more Barney Stinson than Desi was his "We're from Calgary" line at the casino. Luckily it was hilarious so it can be forgiven.

Overall one of the most enjoyably 2+ hours ive had at the theatre this year. Chef was a close 2nd.

And was delighted when she showed up.

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Tyler Perry was one of the best things in the movie for me and one of the best actors. Not even trying to be hyperbolic because I love the movie so much.

I'll even go as far to say that I could see him being nominated for Best Supporting or at least short listed. Considering some of the other major actors that generally get nominated haven't had prestige films this year. I wouldn't be surprised if he did.

>Tyler Perry was one of the best things in the movie for me
>and one of the best actors. Not even trying to be hyperbolic
>because I love the movie so much.
>
>I'll even go as far to say that I could see him being
>nominated for Best Supporting or at least short listed.
>Considering some of the other major actors that generally get
>nominated haven't had prestige films this year. I wouldn't be
>surprised if he did.

something tells me he gets lost among the fray, with Bill Paxton (Nightcrawler), Riz Ahmed (Nightcrawler), J.K. Simmons (Whiplash), Logan Lerman (Fury), Robert Duvall (The Judge), Ed Norton (Birdman), Ethan Hawke (Boyhood), etc. giving as strong if not even stronger performances. I mean, Neil Patrick Harris could also be considered. Tyler was real good in a role that really *COULD* net some oscar buzz around him....but I doubt it. you never know...but i think with all the performances coming getting buzz and those still to come (Josh Brolin - Inherent VIce, Domhall Gleeson - Frank, Michael Caine - Interstellar, Alec Baldwin - Still Alice, etc. this going to a tough race to rise to the top of and get a nod.

BUT, if the buzz around Gone Girl keeps pushing it well into the voting season, Tyler could slip in....

After all the madness has come to a "resolution" and Amy is in the recovery room surrounded by an ALL MALE phalanx of FBI agents, the only person making sense is the female detective (Kim Dickens, future GG/Oscar nominee) when she challenges her on the inconsistencies in her story.

Amy, however is able to play on the mens' discomfort of discussing sexual assault. And she's essentially set free.

That was one of my favorite parts and I'm not sure if that's in the book or played like that in the book. But I thought it was a brilliant look at those type of gender dynamics. The woman knew she was playing them. The dudes? They just want to stick with the "happy" ending.

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"Men be dumb and women be smart" trope. That explains the showers of praise

>After all the madness has come to a "resolution" and Amy is
>in the recovery room surrounded by an ALL MALE phalanx of FBI
>agents, the only person making sense is the female detective
>(Kim Dickens, future GG/Oscar nominee) when she challenges her
>on the inconsistencies in her story.
>
>Amy, however is able to play on the mens' discomfort of
>discussing sexual assault. And she's essentially set free.
>
>That was one of my favorite parts and I'm not sure if that's
>in the book or played like that in the book. But I thought it
>was a brilliant look at those type of gender dynamics. The
>woman knew she was playing them. The dudes? They just want to
>stick with the "happy" ending.
>
>i'm out.
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>@etfp

Not of the movie, but of what this post was about.

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dialogue for the entire first half of the movie is ridiculous, the writer only gave a fuck about the second half.

the plot was trash, the only decently developed female character in the flick is the girl that robs amy. (old boy's sister has a house, but no discernible life of her own other than being snarky and cute)

tyler perry was very good in this, as he has been in most stuff I've seen.

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And I don't think that's a bad thing. Pulpy and fun. I enjoyed the fuck out of it but it's far from Fincher's best. It's fire tho.

that this is one of the few well-directed movies (only one?) a lot of the people who see it will see this year

that women are latching on to a female character that's most notable for faking domestic violence and rape accusations (twice) seems weird to me too, but separately.

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>that women are latching on to a female character that's most
>notable for faking domestic violence and rape accusations
>(twice) seems weird to me too, but separately.

Dudes still to this day latch on to Tyler Durden and Patrick Bateman. People admire sociopaths (they make good leaders, after all.)

If I'm right about this, in a few years college parties are gonna be filled with the most obnoxious girls ever slamming beers, snorting pharmaceuticals and quoting Amazing Amy like she's blonde Jesus.

for multiple reasons...

1. Amy's not that quotable.
There's the long "Cool Girl" monologue but it's not that catchy and has zero chance of entering the lexicon like, "The First Rule of (Insert Anything) Club..."

2. Amy's not saying anything new.
The whole hatred of the "Cool Girl" idea is basic. Every girl feels that. Every girl hates that. Except for the fact that they too want the cool girl to be their friend. Which leads to...

3. Amy wasn't cool.
The only person who wants a cool girlfriend more than guys is girls. Guys and girls both wants someone who'll do what they want, cede to their will, and not threaten their position in the friendship. No girl would want Amazing Amy as a friend. I don't think any girl thought, "I wish I was Amazing Amy!" at any point during the movie. And that's because...

4. Amy is a pathetic character.
Amy pretends to be the cool girl and when that fails and her man cheats on her, she becomes the ultimate psycho ex-girlfriend. And the final part of her original plan? Killing herself. She was going to go out with a whimper. She's ultimately wooed back by the guy pretending to love her, which he doesn't, so then she does what she didn't want, have a baby, to trap him into a loveless marriage.
Gone Girl is closer to Fatal Attraction than Basic Instinct. And I just don't know many women who go to parties and quote pyscho ex-girlfriends whose ultimate goal is keeping a man who doesn't love her.

5. I don't think women embrace murderous sociopaths like men do. Fight Club and American Pyscho tapped into a rage that many men feel. Women don't embrace that nearly as much IMO. And, again, the "I'm a psycho ex-girlfriend and proud of it" flag just doesn't seem like one that many women will pick up and start waving.

6. Amy is forgettable.
Maybe some girls will joke to a recently dumped friend that they should go all Amazing Amy on their boyfriend but I doubt this movie has that lasting of an impact. How many girls go out as The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo anymore? I can't see the impact of this film lasting longer than that one.

I was being tongue in cheek with the whole college party thing. But people have been drawn to some of the most awful characters as someone they can relate to, and it's not anything new.

You wouldn't think a guy in dumb leather pants that's just a manifestation of what a deeply troubled/schizophrenic loser thinks is cool would become a cultural icon/role model for a bunch of men. And yet, it did. Generally immature, assholish men, but still men. I wouldn't be shocked to see immature, assholish women adopting the Cool Girl monologue as their "space monkey."

I do think in general, women tend to not embrace psychopaths as often as men (though what does that say about men?)

Patrick Bateman was the over-the-top embodiment of Yuppie Greed. Even though Bateman was crazy, a lot of guys still aspire to Yuppie Greed.

Amy is the over-the-top embodiment of the psycho ex-girlfriend. No girl aspires to that.

And Tyler Durden was a revolutionary. People often are drawn to them. There's nothing revolutionary about Amy at all.

The closest message Amy could be trying to make is You should love people for what they are but a) who she pretended to be was better than who she is and b) you shouldn't love people if what they are are psychotic murderers.

>If I'm right about this, in a few years college parties are
>gonna be filled with the most obnoxious girls ever slamming
>beers, snorting pharmaceuticals and quoting Amazing Amy like
>she's blonde Jesus.

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I can't imagine, for example, black people dragging their white friends to a movie about a dude that fakes racism claims to get promoted at the office, or pretends to get shot by the police.



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>dialogue for the entire first half of the movie is
>ridiculous, the writer only gave a fuck about the second
>half.
>
>the plot was trash, the only decently developed female
>character in the flick is the girl that robs amy. (old boy's
>sister has a house, but no discernible life of her own other
>than being snarky and cute)
>
>tyler perry was very good in this, as he has been in most
>stuff I've seen.
>
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Also

from watching this movie according to what I heard…like if you go watch it with your SO or a member of the opposite sex, you could debate who was more at fault.

**SPOILER ALERT**

I don't think there's much of a debate. Amy was the crazy psychopathic lunatic. Even though Nick (Affleck) was cheating, it doesn't warrant the punishment Amy had in mind for him. I heard many male movie goers saying afterwards, "I'm never getting married."

This movie was dark, funny and ridiculous at the same time. But it was done so well. Not saying this is the best movie of this year, but it is definitely one of my favorites. It stands out.

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And makes Nick seem less sympathetic than he comes off in the movie (though I still don't think he's "good" in the movie.)

I saw this with my wife, there was no disagreement about Nick and Amy (though she found NPH's character less creepy than I did.)

Nick is less sympathetic because the book does a much better job of selling Amy as the Cool Girl. In the movie, we never really see her as the cool girl and, in fact, in one of the first scenes we see an actual cool girl, Go, talking shit about her to Nick. When Amy eventually has the big "Cool Girl" monologue it's like. "When did you do any of those things?"

But in no way, shape, or form is it a Battle of the Sexes. To have a Battle of the Sexes, you have to have someone you might hold up as a representative of your gender - Nick and Amy are pretty much the textbook shitty versions of husband and wives (Amy obviously being more over the top.)

to his wife ain't great, but his twin sister too?

and then he bangs out ol girl in her living room and falls asleep?

SO MESSY BRO.

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I'm a huge Fincher fan, but I think I'm tired of film adaptations where little change is made. What's the point really? Especially for a book so popular and recent. It looked great though, and the score is dope.

Also, that's two Fincher adaptations in a row where we were told there were significant changes to the ending. Misleading both times, IMO.

Always gets pitch perfect performances from even the most bit (I see you Scoot McNairy, Seeya Ward) parts. Selfie chic was spot on too.

The leads were great along w/ Tyler the lit'gator. Carrie C is on the radar & the continued collaboration w/ Reznor & Ross is starting to become one of my favorite traits.

The initial twist was fairly easy to spot but the third act threw me for a loop. Would've preferred a tighter ending but that's a minor gripe for such a crazy journey.

Didn't think it was the twisted, subversive, trash masterpiece that some (not so much in here, but online in general) have made it out to be.

It's certainly well-made and entertaining, but I thought the last section dragged a little and, although it's sarcastic and darkly funny at times, I never thought it quite reached the levels of cutting satire to which it aspired.

Tyler Perry and Pike were real good. Affleck was better than I expected. One of his best performances IMO.

Also, I can think of at least 4 Fincher that I like better than this, (yes, THE GAME is one of them) so AT BEST it's barely cracking his top 5 for me.

I should re-watch.

one of those movies with some cleverness and self-awareness, but doesn't end up anywhere because all the themes follow the "it can mean anything!" cop-out. entertaining and glossy, but the last 20 minutes felt like an hour; just a bludgeoning of the third act over and over.

And I don't say that about a lot of things, if ever.

the scene of when they first met felt really wooden and bad....the dialogue in that flashback was cringeworthy to me...it was VERY Gilmore Girls on PCP (and i liked GG to a certain extent)

...i thought everyone was pretty relatable, even Amy...did the book go into more detail about the father??, cause it felt like he really had NO purpose, other than to say "he has a dad, they seem to hate each other"....i also would have liked them to give me some sort of motivation as to why the coed chick came forth like...that...i get why she did it, but she didn't strike me as smart enough to paint the narrative as she did

...i agree that most characters didn't have much depth, but they didn't really need it, as this film played in and out of peoples different peceptions of the folks around them based off the limited info they're given...and it did so brilliantly...

written that way by Amy, to present a distortion of their reality to the police. or maybe it all happened exactly that way, and the screenplay is trying to parody or critique how we think a relationship should be. or maybe the writing just sucked.

either way, I agree that it was distracting and bad.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/01/yes-ben-affleck-goes-full-frontal-in-gone-girl-confronting-one-of-cinema-s-last-taboos.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/09/neil-patrick-harris-yes-that-s-my-penis-in-gone-girl.html

of course i saw both. i thought both were stunt dicks but the 2 stars attached claim neither was a stunt.

w/o regard for stunts, i'm more impressed by Affleck's alleged dick shot. still, i suspect both are stunting.

did you see them? what'd you think?

And, as it's all all of my friends were talking about leading up to the film, I was looking. Couldn't see shit.

w/(SPOILER) toward the end of the movie.

it was somewhat hefty in appearance even though flaccid. i suspect he'd worked it up a bit before the shot. LOL. but maybe he didn't.

it seems he's a show-er. while NPH may be a grow-er.

Didn't see actual dong though.

I'm sure it will live eternally as a gif on Tumblr, so I'll get my chance.

Where the hell was NPH's?

Err... not that I'm gonna check again.

Affleck's was real quick. It almost felt like in Fight Club where Brad Pitt spliced dicks on the film reel for movie screenings and shit.

>Where the hell was NPH's?
>
>Err... not that I'm gonna check again.
>
>Affleck's was real quick. It almost felt like in Fight Club
>where Brad Pitt spliced dicks on the film reel for movie
>screenings and shit.


When Amy rolled off of him after she killed him and he was on his back dead, you saw a quick shot of it covered in blood...fleeting but you saw it.

>

spoilers when mofos already spilling details from the film and the film's been out nearly two weeks now?! K LMAO

>


LOL too late!

And plus NPH spilled about folk seeing his dick well before Gone Girl came out. Sooooooooo yeah.

>And, as it's all all of my friends were talking about leading
>up to the film, I was looking. Couldn't see shit.


i suspect there are different cuts of this movie that was put in theaters.

because many friends of mine who saw it in DC, Chicago and New York City didn't see his dick.

When I saw it last Friday, I saw pubes and a very hefty but flaccid dick...it was a quick shot though.

But oddly, the flat ass he rocks was a surprise though...LOL

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and wasnt really looking for em but yeah didnt notice em

for the MVP of the film was that darn cat, he was hilarious!

The ending felt rushed a little.

for a few reasons...

1. I thought she'd be smarter, and say that NPH set-up the whole thing, not only kidnapping her but setting her up to frame her husband... Otherwise it just ties up to neatly for Afleck or her (buckets of her blood in the kitchen, murder weapon which detective questioned her on)

2. I don't mind movies going away from happy ending or expected ending, but her winning somehow after all this is pretty insane

I liked the casting though, the sister was great, thought Tyler Perry was great, thought Kim Dickens was great, and the model titties on aflecks girlfriend were fantastic, and thought Missy Pyle, Lola Kirke and Casey Wilson were good comic relief

perfectly cast.

Pike was outstanding as Amy Dunne....I wouldn't be mad if she slipped in and got a Best Actress nomination (and I suspect that could happen given that it's shaping up to be a weak ass year for Best Actress performances (Julianne Moore in Still Alice, and Reese Witherspoon in Wild seem to be the sure bets along with Pike)

Affleck really did turn in the best role of his career...period.

Kim Dickey was awesome as Rhonda Boney

Carrie Coon *SO* deserves a supporting actress oscar nod or at least be considered for her work as Go

Tyler Perry was surprisingly good; Neil Patrick Harris was great; Casey Wilson, Sela Ward, Missy Pyle (sp?), etc. the entire cast was excellent across the board.

i think the claims of misogyny are problematic since the movie was quite complicated in that manner...it was at times misogynist leaning, misandrist, both of those things, none of those things...and something else entirely.

The film raised some interesting questions about all of them that purposely weren't answered and that was fine with me.

But, i can't ride with Gillian Flynn being called a misogynist by male critics...smh

a darkly comic and intelligent adult marital thriller with, to date, one of the more intelligently written, complex and psychopathic roles for women to pop up lately.

Pike approach Amy in a way that was pretty fucking brilliant. And Pike's mix of cold, aloof, icy detachment (something that has been said about her over the years by directors and actors alike allegedly. I mean, shit, even Fincher couldn't place her because he thought she was "odd" that was one of the reasons which was behind him casting her)

great movie I saw twice and would see again...

Haven't seen anyone speak on this in this post.
Saw it last night.
Major problem with the ending.
Again, spoiler.
Amy tells FBI to check the tapes at Lake House.
When they do that though, won't they see she wasn't there for the last 30 days? Only 10 or so? That she arrived in a car with him without force? That she hadn't been locked up / held prisoner?
This was sort of touched on with Ben's comment on her escape and "How'd she get the box cutter?", but that was just skimmed over.
Any investigation by the FBI into her story would show she's lying. Also if Ben felt comfortable telling the female detective she's lying, why wouldn't he tell FBI?

She was in pretty bad shape when she showed up, if I recall correctly, and I think we're supposed to believe that the cameras are only on the door and outside so the only time they'd see her is if she left (which she didn't) or the one time she pushed herself against the wall to pretend to cry. There was one shot of a camera that might have been in the middle of the room but not sure where it was.

I didn't like that addition (it's not in the book) but so much of the ending is pulpy and silly that I (and I think most people) sort of just accepted it. But, yeah, it seems to create more issues than it solves.

>I think we're supposed to believe that the
>cameras are only on the door and outside so the only time
>they'd see her is if she left (which she didn't)

Ya, but what about their arrival? Also not 30 days before, but only a week or so.....

>or the one time she pushed herself against the wall to pretend to >cry.

When she had faked that part for the camera, could she have not spent the entire day trying to break on of the many glass windows to leave the place? Prior to him returning and having to kill him?


>I didn't like that addition (it's not in the book)

Thank you that's been my big question but haven't had a chance to ask anyone.

>but so much of the ending is pulpy and silly that I (and I think most
>people) sort of just accepted it. But, yeah, it seems to
>create more issues than it solves.

Yep that's what I'm saying....

...when she's in that "interview" that they aren't gonna follow up on anything...i thought about what you tought about, but again, they all acted it made them terribly uncomfortable to think about her "ordeal", and the one person who would check her story, can't...

...i didn't see it as a big plothole at all, but more a loose end that could come back and bite her

is it realistic?? no, but alot of the movie isn't as realistic as i could be...

>...i didn't see it as a big plothole at all, but more a loose
>end that could come back and bite her
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>is it realistic?? no, but alot of the movie isn't as realistic
>as i could be...

Ya that's basically what I'm saying.

it's flimsy as hell and makes no sense, but most of the movie doesn't.

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Ya I'm saying one of the relevant parts would be her arrival at the lake house (not under distress).

When I brought that up with the people I saw it with, everyone reacted like, "oh, ya that's right..."
I think as it's not right at the end, people sort of skim over it or lose track of that part.

Ah well... that's fiction for ya......

...messing with and learning the security system.

First of all the novel of Gone Girl to me = absolute trash. The worst novel I've read in the past decade.

So working with terrible source material means its going to be an equally poor film.

A lot of the depth of characters and context are removed in the screenplay. NPH's character is reduced so much it weakens the plot of the novel.

Rosie Pike was great in the role of Amy.

Affleck looked so out of place with his beefcake appearance. I'm guessing he has pumped up for the Batman film?

The score really fucked with my mind. Memorable and I hope it will be recognised. Reznor and Atticus Ross make one hell of a team.

Curious.

Interested to see how he filmed it. I thought he did a good job.

I've learnt in recent years not to read popular fiction which is adapted to films. Just go watch the movie and don't waste precious time reading throwaway novels.

I didn't like Life of Pi as a novel - I didn't like the film either because of the source material but I absolutely appreciate that Ang Lee did an incredible job visualising a film out of it.

But Gone Girl, that original score is brilliant.

>First of all the novel of Gone Girl to me = absolute trash.
>The worst novel I've read in the past decade.
>
>So working with terrible source material means its going to be
>an equally poor film.
>
>A lot of the depth of characters and context are removed in
>the screenplay. NPH's character is reduced so much it weakens
>the plot of the novel.
>
>Rosie Pike was great in the role of Amy.
>
>Affleck looked so out of place with his beefcake appearance.
>I'm guessing he has pumped up for the Batman film?
>
>The score really fucked with my mind. Memorable and I hope it
>will be recognised. Reznor and Atticus Ross make one hell of a
>team.

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worst movie that i've seen in a minute.


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"Roll me further bitch"

...dude lost his job, had to take care of his cancer-having mom, and banged a brunette?


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And she had ceded control on so many levels for him and then he cheated on her which made her flip out.

I thoroughly enjoyed it even the ending. Some of the scenarios may have been exaggerated in GG but imo it is not far from the reality of most marriages.
Grade A+

Why did Nick stay? lol, Y'all know why.
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There's a huge logic fail that severely lessens my enjoyment. I was hoping they'd change it from the book, but no. I swear Gregg Hurwitz wrote Amy in both the movie and the book.


Obvious spoiler here:


So Nick goes through all that shit, right? He catches on and basically manipulates Amy into returning, right?

Cool

A lot of intrigue and suspense builds up through that vehicle. Amy is an incredible mastermind, right?

Sooooo........... Nick manipulates her, tells her what she wants to hear, and she takes the stance that hey, this shows how well we know each other.

All good.

The problem? Nick had absolutely no fucking plan for what to do when she got there. Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The ending is what it is. I hate it, but whatever. One thing that bugs me to no end in any story is an impossibly brilliant/connected/all powerful/etc antagonist who is always ten steps ahead of the antagonist, and never makes a mistake. That's the shit Hurwitz does. The bad guy always knows every step made by the protagonist, always has infinite reach, etc, and Amy's planning is the same way.

At least Hurwitz gives his heroes some air to breathe, something to give them a dog in the fight somewhere. Shit, he writes suspense well enough that I've gone through about 5 of his books, but they're all marred by the annoying habit of all seeing, all knowing, far reaching villains.

THIS shit though? Fucking Amy? Very well written and executed, but then Nick doesn't even try to stop her. Oh, he brainstorms. He thinks. He has breakfast with Boney and Go and wonders aloud. I could live with a weak, failed plan that underestimated the brilliance and depth of Amy's special brand of crazy. But no plan? No effort, nothing? Blech. No thanks.

The ending is whatever. Sometimes the villain wins, so be it. Just give the protagonist a fucking brain and I'm good with it. It's saying something about how awful Amy is that anyone would want to see Nick win, because the lying prick is highly unlikable. Giving him no plan of attack after Amy returned was a bad move IMO.

>The problem? Nick had absolutely no fucking plan for what to
>do when she got there. Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada.

>Giving him no plan of attack after Amy returned was
> a bad move IMO.

I mean, everyone thought that she was dead and that he killed her, so it seems to me that his primary goals in getting her to come back were to prove that she was alive and to stay the fuck out of the electric chair, which he did. I don't think he really cared what happened next (or even thought about it too much) as long as he was cleared of the murder charge...

...he never struck me as a really smart guy...

"mediocre" might be a more fair assessment of the film as a whole.
the dialogue was REALLY bad in parts though.

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As usual great atmosphere created by Fincher. The dialogue was sharp for the most part, and the acting Affleck, Pike, Carrie Coon, Kim Dickens, and yes Tyler Perry all were very good to great.

The most interesting part of the film was the subtext though from its portrayal of the media, to its deconstruction of marriage and love.

Even draggin a bit 15-20min too long, it's easily my favorite Fincher film since Fight Club

It seemed like it would have been a more interesting story if I thought for a minute that maybe Ben Affleck actually could have committed the murder.

The narrator could have been a bit more unreliable. The only time we saw that was when it was a question of who actually didn't want to have a baby.

I think the story would have worked a little better if Affleck was less at the center of it. He just seemed like a decent guy in a bad marriage.




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It's weird because I felt like it had a lot of plot to keep it moving but it draaaggggged.

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So, basically, I watched 2 shitty, normal length movies.

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I dont care how well it was written in the book its a bad story. Shit was like The Hand That Rocks The Cradle stupid lol
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loved neil patrick harris as a psycho niles frasier - he played the shit outta that. i lol'ed.

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>loved neil patrick harris as a psycho niles frasier - he
>played the shit outta that. i lol'ed.

2.5 hrs flew by. and i spent bout 1.5 hours of it on the edge of my seat.

I really didn't think it was more than two, it never really felt long to me.

It was ridiculous but definitely entertaining.

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This was definitely pulpy
But was pretty honest about it
True detectives writer clearly wasn't aware he was writing pulp
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