>no it wasn't subtle at all, but 'subtle' is not a requirement
>for 'good' and 'subtle' definitely doesn't automatically equal
>'good'. sometimes simple & straightforward can be just as
>satisfying if executed appropriately, and this was if you ask
>me. Simple & straightforward yes, yet still interesting and
>containing unpredictable elements as well (I like the mash-up
>of serious/semi-grounded/over-the-top/drama/comedy/violence &
>action) ... ultimately a really satisfying ride.

The "subtle" discussion above wasn't so much about the quality of the movie as a popcorn flick but at those saying that there was a deeper meaning. The key line that was being responded to being, "It's more than a popcorn flick when you sit down and think about it."

The more you think about it, the worse it gets IMO. I was along for the ride (no pun intended) up until the end when Ed Harris just droned on and on. And as an allegory, it doesn't really work. But the build up in the beginning, any moment with Tilda Swinton and Allison Pill, etc. made for an entertaining enough flick.