And, you know, bringing up the specific movie that I was talking about is kind of relevant.

>I think "one dimensional character" and "cliche" is "I don't
>like this movie"

Yeah, and you know why? Because one dimensional characters and cliched dialogue are legit flaws to be pointed out in the movie!
Can films overcome these shortcomings? Of course, and I've never said they couldn't. But that doesn't mean that they aren't legit issues and that they shouldn't be pointed out when they do in fact make a film worse.

>it's hardly the end all be all of what a movie is

You think that citing poor characters, weak conflict, and lousy dialogue apparently isn't enough to not like a film. For me, it's very hard for a film to be considered good if it fails in those three key aspects of what makes a story.