http://movies.yahoo.com/video/elysium-trailer-200248321.html

Yep, I'm in. I don't need any more footage/trailers/etc. I didn't even really need this.

This is one of my most anticipated of the summer by a mile.

and dude did a good job directing district 9 so hopefully he doesn't drop the ball
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I knew I should have ditched work to see this yesterday. I'm all the way in.

him make that "Halo" movie. It would have been epic.

>him make that "Halo" movie. It would have been epic.

No, it wouldn't. Let games be games and let movies be movies

It looks visually stunning but I'm a little nervous about the story.

I'll say no more ;(

It's not ALL bad, but when you THINK about it. Shit kinda didn't sit w/me well.

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Been waiting on this one ever since it was announced.

D9 had a great start & finish but the middle was bogged down w/ a buncha baloney at times

This "looks" better but hopefully it avoids the same pitfalls

I don't dislike Matt damon so i'm on that.

They were testing some things out. I won't spoil anything I will say this; even in the advanced stages some of them were in, the FX looked amazing. Lots of action, plenty of humor (oddly enough) and the film definitely makes you think, as did District 9, and as does most good sci-fi. This is definitely a critique of our current 'system' and where the author sees it going, should you play it out to it's natural conclusion.

On the bad side:

The story's A LITTLE preposterous and there are definitely some 'Amazing white man' moments. Frankly the whole films is on some 'Amazing White man' shit. Also, the vision of the future was, for me, a little insulting - I'ma leave it at that.

In summation:

I gotta say, I enjoyed it and will likely see it again, just to see the finishing touches and what it looks like in it's finished product. Also, I wanna see if they took some of the story notes I gave them. (prolly not)

Damon was good in this, as was his love interest. The villian is good, a little hammy, but definitely menacing. Foster too, puts in a pretty great performance.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

On the bad side:
> Also, the vision of the
>future was, for me, a little insulting - I'ma leave it at
>that.

The most glaring thing I got from that trailer is... black people don't exist in the future. it seemed to be done deliberately too.

>The most glaring thing I got from that trailer is... black
>people don't exist in the future. it seemed to be done
>deliberately too.

about as much story as you could fit on a napkin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-RSDaRttpzk

Still not sure about it but I'm far more likely to see it after that trailer than the first one.

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Shit is good, but not as good as District 9, but still very dope.

Shartlo Copley kilt it. Nigga stays putting in work in everything he's in.

But cotdamn was this shit bleak due to the impossible odds and obstacles Max aka Matt Damon. I want that AK he had.

Yo can I just say I want Neil Blomkamp to create these dope weapons in real life so I can use them shits.

Also, you can could call his fate from the opening two minutes. It was inevitable. Or maybe I just expect those kind of outcomes for shit that's not a franchise.

The villain was great. Really annoying and Menacing at the same time.

I think there was only 1 black person in the whole film.

Honestly, it didnt feel like there was enough action but that could be because im used to Hwood action overkill. Though, I wanted to see the weapons more. The one he had when he got up to Elysium...goddamn.

You can kind of see everything coming but it wasnt completely obvious.

Story was ok but it felt too District 9-ish. A different on-Earth back drop would have been nice.

I loved the movie, the action was great. I felt the pain damon was going through, loved the setting and the villain. I honestly enjoyed it 100000 times more than district 9 personally. I saw how it was going to end early on in the film and still that didn't ruin it for me. My only gripe is with the message. And its really a personal point of view. But this was basically a propaganda film preaching socialism. Like, blatantly. I have no issues with directors speaking their mind socially, but when it becomes overwhelming you feel it. I think a good director is one the can pull anyone into their film, while this definitely kept me at distance for that single reason. And it's my own point of view, I am not trying to push it onto anyone, yet that is precisely what this film was trying to do. Otherwise, as a movie as a whole, this was one of the better sci-fi films i've seen in a while, and definitely the best one this summer.

Have the tea-partiers really won that one?

Based largely on their ignorance. As much as I hate the tea baggers - I don't think we can saddle them w/this one. That horse has been dead for a minute now...

and tell me if it is. You are waaaaaay to naive to believe that it doesn't. this is a space for a movie review but Ill humor you. If you want subpar medical care, low income work opportunities, government control over your whole life (you think we have it bad here?) then yes by all means. If you are one of those blind people who just follow like sheep, and only because the Dems seem to support that system now all of a sudden you claim by it? What exactly do you know about socialism other than the tea party opposing it? have you lived it? If you have and maybe if you are living it then it is, in fact, for you, but no thank you. And that is why i made sure to say it is MY PERSONAL OPINION.

but isn't there a very big difference regarding the communism practiced in Russia and true ideal socialism? Granted i think human nature makes true socialism virtually impossible, but i just wanted to now whether you believed communism in Russia was what idealists believe could work in a truely socialist society?

There never was "communism", only totalitarianism. Exactly what you're suggesting. Communism is a consequence of socialism, all roads lead there once a socialistic system is established. Sooner or later it goes there. And then immediately it mutates, once someone who can cheat sees an opportunity. I understand that yeah you can try and keep it separated but it wouldn't work. Never. Socialist state is basically saying yeah, all the rich people, time to share with the rest of us. It is anti-productive, it destroys competitive nature. However Totalitarian regime can sustain because one in power, a dictator, has people believe that they are all living equal. In china, for example, they pride themselves on being socialist. But in reality, do you really believe that the people that govern that country live off the same resources as its citizens? Same with Cuba. There are always those with power and wealth and then there are regular people who don't see past it.

There's some room for nuance in the world. Saying that workers shouldn't be forced into radiation ovens, or that 10,000 or so super-rich people shouldn't withhold life-saving technology from billions of others, doesn't, I think, amount to Stalinism.

But you're right -- this is not a discussion we need to have right here. I was just surprised at how you recoiled over "socialism." When I was a kid, for most Americans "communism" meant Russia and "socialism" meant Scandinavia. I'm just bothered by the way that reappropriation of the language seems to have removed vital elements from the political conversation.

nor have i tried to prove you wrong. I just said its my opinion. I dont think it can ever work.

It's a movie review. I honestly have 0 desire arguing something with someone who already have their mind made up. It's merely a personal opinion

You did argue with me though. You even took it to Soviet Russia. That's fine though, and quite understandable given that's what you've lived. I didn't mean to knock your socialism cred, I just honestly didn't know about it.

As for the movie, I'm kind of ambivalent about it. I liked the politics of it, simplistic as it admittedly was. It also hinted at some interesting sci-fi elements, but it neglected to explore them because it was too busy working the boring action angle.

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you're being a bit too simplistic in your interpretation

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I agree it isn't the only point. There are numerous "layers", I just spoke on the point it made. It is how it seems to be interpreted in our society in its current state. "this is what capitalism leads to and this is how it can be fixed". My main gripe is that they don't show what happens after. Like really, the whole world's population is now citizens of this satellite planet? How does everyone get cured? what happens to earth? who ends up taking power and what do they do with it? You honestly think someone who takes charge will just hand out resources to the people?

This was a bad sci-fi script trying to make simplistic points but it looked amazing and had some cool weapons.

My biggest gripe is that they made they made the villains SO evil. Jodie Foster was trying for a coup and like blowing people up. Sharlto Copley was a mad rapist. It was like they took the extreme ideas of what Americans are (rich people who are divorced from caring at all about others and poor people who don't want a job and even make fun of people who have to go to work for a living).

Beyond that, the film was just stupid. It had some of the most cliched dialogue I've heard in quite some time. The characters were all one-dimensional.

It looked good though. I'll give it that.

dude, what do you like. Seriously. You're critical about every movie you watch and post about. I don't think I've ever seen you post on something you really enjoyed. Everything is dumb, has plot holes, mediocre, unoriginal. You're like the David Bammer of PTP (but MUCH LESS annoying and dismissive of actual conversation)

Can you list what some flicks you've liked or enjoyed in your life

I get why some people might like the movies I don't, like Elysium. I'm not saying they are movies that everyone must hate. But I'm also not going to pretend that many of these films aren't flawed to the point of distraction for me.

It's not like I'm demanding originality; everything's pretty much been done before but you have to elevate that shit. You can't take every beat from Die Hard and then come away with a shittier movie ala White House Down. My boredom at Oblivion isn't abated by the fact that it reminds me of scenes from better movies.
And I'm sorry but story and plot and characters and dialogue matter to me and I just can't watch a film like The Dark Knight Rises and ignore the fact that none of the shit makes a lick of sense.

When it comes to action films, I always say start with Predator. That movie is basic as shit. The plot is "Get to tha Choppa!". The villain's motivation is that he's a hunter and humans are game. Simple. Clean. And a good fucking movie. Die Hard is essentially a game of keep away.
If you want to add to that, you better make sure that you work it in and most things make sense. My friend liked Elysium and was talking about the political stuff and whenever I pointed out how it was simplistic to the point of undercutting any message, he said, "Well, yeah, but it's a dumb sci-fi film." To me, that's a failure.
Elysium and World War Z and even Man of Steel bring up "smart" concepts and then do nothing with them in the story. I just am not impressed by nods to something more that really just end up slowing down the movie and leading to things being underdeveloped (and to be fair to Elysium, it's more underdeveloped than dumb.)

Even if I had gone into Elysium knowing that it was a sci-fi b-movie, the characters and storyline were still too weak for it to be much fun. It looks great and some people blow up all sorts of funny but, beyond that there wasn't much.
Honestly, if they had cut Elysium out of the movie and just focused entirely on Sharlto Copley using futuristic weapons to hunt Matt Damon around dystopian Los Angeles and it would have been a much better film. It wouldn't have strived to be more than it is but, then again, it wouldn't have failed at being more than it is either.
Instead we got a film that seemed like someone came up with a cool idea, wrote up an outline, and then forgot to flesh it out into an actual film.

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As for movies I liked:

Of this decade so far, my top movies are: Margin Call, Kick-Ass The Social Network, Exit Through the Gift Shop, 127 Hours, Crazy Stupid Love, Animal Kingdom, Black Swan, Blue Valentine, and Perks of Being a Wallflower.

This year I liked Furious 6, This is The End, Side Effects, Mud, We Steal Secrets, Iron Man 3, It's a Disaster, and Now You See Me.

Last year (a year in which I missed a lot of films) was: Perks of Being a Wallflower, Argo, Looper, The Avengers, The Cabin in the Woods, Chronicle, The Raid, 21 Jump Street, Ted, and Headhunters.

Oh, and finally, this is a message board. I think discussing films' flaws and looking at how they could have been fixed is far more interesting than, "Hell, yeah. That shit was awesome. And fuck you for being thrown off by the parts that sucked because that one dude totally blew up into a million pieces and that was rad!" I mean, even when people pick apart movies I like, I can often admit the film had flaws. Nothing's perfect. It's all subjective.

*shrug*

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Are you saying that these characters weren't one dimensional and that the dialogue was good?

*shakes head*

and I think claiming a character is one-dimensional is usually a far too simple critique of a movie, it applies to nearly every flick if you want it to.

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Did you think that the characters in Elysium had any depth at all and weren't just cookie cutter characters, most of whom were one dimensional?
Yes, movies don't have time to always add depth to all characters but there was no depth and almost no real internal conflict to any of the main characters this film. The Haves were greedy... just because. They didn't share their health pods... just because. Matt Damon's choice at the end of the film was to Save the World and Die or Get Arrested and Die. Even when he turns down saving the girl, it isn't a real character moment. It's just not feasible for him, currently on the run and hunted, to smuggle a dying girl with him.

And has anyone said the dialogue in his movie was quality? That a dying Fichtner saying, "You don't know what you've gotten yourself into" wasn't laughable on the nose and cliche?

I think it's it's an alright watch, not the second coming.

I think "one dimensional character" and "cliche" is "I don't like this movie"

because plenty of the movies you like have lines that can be pulled out as cliche, and characters with no development or conflict.

it's hardly the end all be all of what a movie is

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And, you know, bringing up the specific movie that I was talking about is kind of relevant.

>I think "one dimensional character" and "cliche" is "I don't
>like this movie"

Yeah, and you know why? Because one dimensional characters and cliched dialogue are legit flaws to be pointed out in the movie!
Can films overcome these shortcomings? Of course, and I've never said they couldn't. But that doesn't mean that they aren't legit issues and that they shouldn't be pointed out when they do in fact make a film worse.

>it's hardly the end all be all of what a movie is

You think that citing poor characters, weak conflict, and lousy dialogue apparently isn't enough to not like a film. For me, it's very hard for a film to be considered good if it fails in those three key aspects of what makes a story.

then bring them up in critique of a good movie, like Bad Boys II

I'm saying you're talking but not saying anything.

elysium's problems are not bad one liners and a lack of motivation of the characters.

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>elysium's problems are not bad one liners and a lack of
>motivation of the characters.

No, but those (and it's overall lousy dialogue not just "bad one liners") were key contributing factors to the overall poor storytelling and the simplistic-to-the-point-of-stupid portrayal of its theme.
You seem to hell bent on focusing on the individual elements that I cited and can't see the forest through the trees. One last time: just because other films can overcome some of these individual shortcomings doesn't mean they aren't shortcomings. Your oft-repeated stance is akin to saying, "I don't think gunshots kill people because I've known people who were shot and didn't die so blaming the gunshot as contributing to a death isn't valid."

And I have mentioned these flaws in films I've liked because *shock and horror* it's possible to admit weaknesses in films one still finds entertaining. In fact, it's possible to admit that movies one found entertaining weren't really well made at all.

Maybe you thought the visuals were enough to carry the day or Copley's performance made up for it. I focus on storytelling and that was the main weakness of this film so I didn't enjoy it.

read differently: not an act.

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My post that you responded to opened with, "I get why some people might like the movies I don't, like Elysium. I'm not saying they are movies that everyone must hate. But I'm also not going to pretend that many of these films aren't flawed to the point of distraction for me."

You responded by saying I was focusing on the wrong things and the problems I had with the films weren't really problems and that my different read was invalid and that I was "saying nothing".

Now all of a sudden you're saying you just "read differently" and I focused on things you don't give a shit about... which is EXACTLY what I referenced in the quote above. Now all of a sudden "read differently" is OK even though "read differently" was the entire thing you were criticizing me for.

Maybe it's not an act. Maybe you are just self-absorbed and blinded by your own opinion and incapable of admitting that movies you like might have flaws that could bother other people. Maybe you can't understand why people might discuss these flaws on a movie message board. I tend to think that you aren't an egotistical idiot like that but, well, maybe that's where I'm wrong.

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I can't say I disagree because we aren't speaking about a specific film, and even though I haven't seen Elysium, your criticisms have been fairly common from those I've heard over the past couple of days to some extent

I was asking more so because its just rare to see your username and enjoying the film of the post. It can just come off a bit cantankerous and contrarian for the of debate. many of the films you listed I've liked/loved as well, with the exception of Perks (which was borderline terrible), Kick Ass and Social Network.

Anyway respect for taking the time to reply

But I never just hate something for the sake of debate.

It's initially bogged down by the total lack of characterization (though Copley is great at suggesting depth), and its exploration of the world only works in bits (the robot parole officer is great).

Still, no one does awesome explosive R-rated violence like Blomkamp nowadays, so once the plan is set in motion (I use the term "plan" loosely), it gets increasingly exciting and awesome.

i.e. it's worth the price of the ticket and the two hours or whatever


better than district 9 imo, I'm really looking forward to whatever blomkamp does next.

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I thought the visuals were really impressive along with the weapons, technology, Jodie Foster's legs and Copley.

The dialogue and the kid were cringe-inducing but it was fun.

creepy like the Boston Dynamics videos

enjoyed it also district 9 - have to agree characterization thoughts already expressed here, but I still had fun watching this film !

Alice Braga I have an engagement ring for you love ,its time for me to commit to you...lol

old school A - Z action, some plot holes, but good enough pace to keep you moving without thinking too much.

but left his shirt on during the surgery

but can we talk about that Bugatti space ship?

but still, it took everything I had not to scream I WOKE UP IN A NEW BUGATTI

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...so funny...hahhaaaaa

I suppose when you're on the edge of survival, either a heightened self-awareness or a self-defeating imprudence are the main reactions. in Elysium's case, all the characters seem to take the latter approach.

firstly, the idea of breaking into Elysium for medical aid is more akin to suicide. it'd be like robbing the most fortified bank in the world, wanting to spend all the money while you're at the vault, and knowing the only way out is via the bank's own transportation service.

granted, ignorance is a great tool of oppression, and that lack of foresight is about the only characterization Damon masters. after being gifted with a tool that could reverse the Earth's suffering, while knowing that has put the universe's biggest bounty on his head, he disregards all context for a completely stupid tangent.

it'd be like bin Laden discovering US nuclear launch codes, then deciding he wanted to use the restrooms in the White House first.

I didn't like Copley either, who was either horrible casting or poorly written. a Real World: Puck meets psychotic ex-jock, his presence was laughable the entire time.

from the scattered editing I'd guess the first cut was an hour longer, while the melee scenes were typically poor in the "cut-cut-cut-disguise" style. some of the technology looked good though, mostly on Earth (Elysium had too much CGI sheen to it).

Hope he plays a more subtle villain in Oldboy

>Hope he plays a more subtle villain in Oldboy

Elysium had it's iffy points but overall it was a very solid and entertaining movie. I felt like it had a clear and useful vision and it's obviously something that needs to be said now with everything that's going on.

..while that premise isn't new, its hilarious how simplistic this film's approach to rebellion was.

no need to tear this film apart for poor execution regarding the script, direction, etc., since its apparently accepted behavior from a summer blockbuster. even with that understanding, everyone in this cast was wasted.

foster
damon
braga

it was damn-near painful to watch foster phone it in for this. damon gave his usual "but i'm smarter than you, so i don't really give a fuck" schtick and he had absolutely NO chemistry with braga. the visuals were fine, but the power ranger/go-bot droids were corny.

this really feels like the year of the repeat offenders (olympus has fallen, white house down, oblivion, elysium, etc.).

putting all criticism aside, i still walked away with one question:


if all you needed was a simple reboot, why wouldn't carlyle (fichtner) simply place himself in charge?

C -


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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..and miles to go before i sleep...

some want to be able to do what they do/what they know and make a ton of $$ doing it

Must be a Bugatti thing?

when others crashed into shit

..dude was stuck on earth dealing with horrible conditions, knowing that he designed the programming that allowed elysium to flourish.

why beg for opportunities when you can command your own?


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B7E8dge7H8Y


..and miles to go before i sleep...

Why he didn't just retire to Elysium is unknown since the rules of that world were so underdeveloped.

..basically she needed him on earth to maintain the work he was doing there

he also showed serious disdain regarding that, basically saying that he couldn't wait to leave.

i don't think delacourt ever seriously intended to bring him back to elysium. as soon as she became president, his ticket was punched.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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..and miles to go before i sleep...

When we first met him, he said he hated the business trips.

On the website (which doesn't really work completely with the movie), it says he commutes to Earth. http://www.armadyne.net/company/leadership.php

His motivation was about guaranteeing profitability for his company and sticking it to the President/Board Member who was threatening him with the loss of government contracts when we first met him.
If staying on Elysium was his main motivation, there were easier solutions than enabling a coup.

..my point is simple:

he hates being on earth for any reason. he runs a company that ensures stability for elysium, as well as the programming that dictates citizenship. with that amount of control, there's no reason someone like him needs to spend so much time on earth.

they have advanced modern tech that can cure all human ailments, but this guy can't find a better way of managing the earth site that would end his daily commute?




*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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..and miles to go before i sleep...

I agree with what you just wrote. Your posts ("guarantee his own ticket", "stuck on Earth", "bringing him back to Elysium") made me think you believed he was living on Earth or didn't have access to Elysium. What I disagreed with is the initial idea that placing himself in the Presidency would have been a sensible solution to this. As you said, there were easier ways. Hell, a remote controlled robot with a Skype account could have handled everything he did down there.
(And personally, I thought his deal with Jodie Foster achieved this. I read it differently than you; I thought giving him 200 years of government deals would have made the company profitable and meant he didn't have to commute to Elysium anymore.)

In the end, the only reason for all of this was that Blokamp needed to get Carlyle to be on Earth to get jacked. Although, that brings up the question: why did he need to go back down to Earth to write a computer program? (In terms of theme, it's also off; as if politicians are pushing big business around.)

But, as you noted in your first response, it's a poor executed script. Stuff like that I let slide. I mean, what's the point of a lethal transfer security measure that only kills the person AFTER a SECOND transfer is done. Or the fact that apparently you don't really need the transfer since Kruger and his boys basically lifted almost the whole thing out of the air during the initial transfer. From top to bottom, the movie was stupid.

We get it Neil. White people are evil and hoard all that good health care for themselves while fighting off the unwashed Mexican hoards.

Did I leave anything out? Yeah, but not much.

Great visuals, but holy shit was this a simp assed story. It was largely one tired ass cliche after another. There was very little to rave about. It was cool enough but I wish I would have waiting for this shit to hit Amazon.

Elysium, Avatar, Dances With Wolves, The Last Samurai, District 9, Lincoln (yup).

There's so many. lmao.

Bill Burr on white guilt movies-----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN9hy4YNIv0

Maybe it's because I really really loved district 9 but I expected to have more of a connection to the plot/characters. The plot and characters (particularly villains) really had no substance, with the connection between Max + Frey not really earned...just pretty vanilla all-around.

Really wanted to like it but couldn't connect at all. Glad I saw it in theaters but doesn't leave much of an indelible impression on me...and although it's unfair, that was something I expected after how beautifully Blomkamp crafted D9. O well

that is awesome, yet gives me the heebie jeebies at the same time.

You could tell Copley was having fun playing that shit.

2?

made great villains

Just because guys you like as people starred in and directed
it nobody can say it

This movie was TERRIBLE

Good god

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>Just because guys you like as people starred in and directed
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>This movie was TERRIBLE
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>Good god
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half of us agree with you... smdh

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Horrible...they could have done so much with this film, started out promising, then fell off hard...the only impressive parts were the visuals...I want those two hours back...weak...

the effects were great


Krueger saved the 2nd half of the film

and i must be getting old because this is another movie i thought was 30 minutes too long

shitty mexican stereo types, over the top dialogues/acting, characters doing strange / illogical shit, silly villains and Elysium just seemed like "visual candy"

i am disappointed

for the Elysium system? Really?? I laughed when the guy changed Earth citizens' status from 'illegal' to 'legal'. So easy! And how does making everyone a Elysium citizen supposed to make things better? Wouldn't the best thing to do is put a few of those solarium machines on Earth??

The action and visual's cool but the story and premise is just silly and nonsensical.

>for the Elysium system? Really?? I laughed when the guy
>changed Earth citizens' status from 'illegal' to 'legal'. So
>easy!

Its not getting its proper due

That scene was outright one of the most hilarious shitty
movie scenes of all tiem

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I got confused at how simple minded and thoughtless it was

It was one of many wtf moments in that film

>Wouldn't the best thing to do is put a few of those solarium machines on Earth??

Why couldn't they have put some on Earth to start with? They seem to have a lot of those machines at their disposal.

I didn't see this as an endorsement of socialism (maybe socialistic medicine but why does saying "fuck the one percent" equal socialism? You can say that income inequality is a bad thing and will only get worse without being a socialist). I also didn't see it as a not subtle incrimination of how we treat Mexicans. I thought it was a real critique of where the US is headed if we allow economic inequality to continue on it's present course.

I will admit the rules of the world were under developed but I think they were sufficiently developed for a summer action movie. Ending was a bit hokey but I don't think the intent was to suggest all the worlds problems had been solved.

Far better than District 9 and I can't wait to see what the Director's next work will be.



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ELYSIUM aka the rebirth of a nation.

As a matter of fact it's the same ole same ole. The same nation that existed in 1915. A few things are different tho. The class warfare is taking place in 2054, there is racism against mexicans and the new promised land, Elysium' is an ultra luxurious gated community in the sky. All the residents of Elysium have free health care, lol.

Excuse me but wouldn't a truly advanced civilization be able to regenerate cells without the use of machines?

Many people have described Elysium as socialist propaganda. Yeah that could be one way of looking at it but the reality is there is no such thing as a left right paradigm in politics. That is an illusion.

Elysium is a propaganda film that promotes the chhurch and the state as being the ultimate authority. Elysium offers no message of empowerment, promotes waiting on a savior and it is not a thought provoking movie on any level.
Don't drink the Koolaid folks. There is nothing liberal about so called liberal Hollywood. Damn, Matt Demon done became a big time sellour.

Grade F

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really disappointed

they couldnt get Matt a vocal coach to help him get a slight Spanish accent (or at least lose the Boston one)?

Jodie's accent.....?

why'd they drill the suit on over his shirt?

Can we (the viewers) spend a little time on Elysium? at least see whats so great abt it beyond those establishing shots?

no backup for the system?

why send the person with a hard drive in his head that has all the info to earth? wtf was he doing there?

i dont understand holywood

>why'd they drill the suit on over his shirt?

^^^^^^^^^^^

the rest i just kinda didn't care, but the shirt thing i was laughing in the theater.

Yeah it is dumb a and racist.

What were they using as the energy source?

I wan't someone to explain how millions of people are supposed to fit on a satellite designed for only a few thousand?

I didn't hate it but didn't love it. Not a horrible movie but some really dumb concepts like the tanning bed that heals everything and they have these just sitting in houses on the space station world but nobody can have on on earth anywhere? but whatever. It was just alright and had some dope special effects.

Pathetic

This movie was unbelievably bad

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A majority of the comments in here actually stand in line with your opinion.

You don't need a strawman, dude.

Well. That's the point of the strawman I guess. You don't need the shit.

Keep posting tho.

i'm out.
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