>'Cause I'm a comic book head, I usually hear it with stuff
>like, "Alan Moore and Frank Miller killed comics. They were
>the first to popularize 'Dark' comics in the '80s, people less
>talented keep biting their style, and now comics suck." Well,
>it's not their fault their imitators suck, it's the imitators
>fault.
>
>People who try to do what Siskel and Ebert do (or in the
>Siskel's case, did) and do it badly are the problem, not the
>innovators.

But it's not just their imitators. Siskel and Ebert themselves sucked. I remember catching the syndicated show every week as a kid and even then I felt like what they were doing was very facile and glib. I do agree with the OG post in that it was because of them that I discovered Pauline Kael. Honestly, I think Peter Travers is probably better than Ebert