Here's what we want:

- List your Top 10 best movies ever. No order. Put the title and the director.

- You can have multiple per director if you so desire. No restrictions.

- Put the ten BEST films in your opinion. This isn't just your favorite films of all time-- although many times your favorites and the films you think are the best overlap. But for example, I won't put "Dirty Work (Saget)" on my list, even though I love it dearly, because while it's enjoyable for a number of personal reasons, I don't believe it's a "great." (Note: that doesn't mean comedies or mainstream films aren't great. What you believe is great is up to you. Just try not to put jokey shit.)

- If we get enough lists, we can compile them to determine our boards' total list.

- Post your lists as a reply to the respective reply below, so we can keep them somewhat organized.

Questions for answering (and I'll put a second place to reply for commentary/debate):
1. Should we let ANYONE post their list? Or should we instead do what S&S does and select a smaller number of posters who we feel represents the best of PTP? Or is that too artsy?
2. Because we will have waaaaaay fewer "ballots," is trying to tally them even worth the effort? Should this just be an area for lists and debating people's lists, rather than trying to make a big hullabaloo when we simply lack the manpower (or personpower, if you will).

City of god (Mierelles,Lund,2002)
The Godfather II (Coppola,1974)
Network (Lumet,1976)
Apocalypse now (Coppola,1979)
Do the Right Thing (lee,1989)
A Clockwork Orange (Kubrick, 1972)
The Manchurian Canidate(Frankenheimer, 1962)
Hoop dreams(James,1994)
New jack city (van peebles,1991)
Coming to America (Landis 1980)

City of god (Mierelles,Lund,2002)
The Godfather II (Coppola,1974)
Do the Right Thing (Lee,1989)
Coming to America (Landis 1980)
GoodFellas (Scorsese 1990)
Blade Runner (Scott 1982)
Psycho (Hitchcock 1960)
Silence of the Lambs (Demme, 1991)
Fargo (Cohen Brothers, 1996)
Unforgiven (Eastwood, 1992)

Asked me any other day and Children of Men, Minority Report or
No Country For Old Men could be on this list.




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"naive as the dry leaves on the ground looking past the trees to the blue sky asking 'why me?'" -Blu

I agree on the others as well

The Godfather II ( Coppola, 1974)
Peeping Tom (Powell, 1960)
Northwest by Northwest (Hitchcock, 1959)
The Royal Tenenbaums ( Anderson, 2001)
His Girl Friday (Hawks, 1940)
Fargo ( Coens, 1996)
Do The Right Thing (Lee, 1989)
The Red Shoes ( Powell, 1948)
The Game (Fincher, 1997)
The Graduate ( Nichols 1967)

Didn't think about it but it definitely a nice nod.

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"naive as the dry leaves on the ground looking past the trees to the blue sky asking 'why me?'" -Blu

Meet Me In St. Louis (Minnelli)
Young Mr. Lincoln (Ford)
La Bete Humaine (Renoir)
The Circus (Chaplin)
Nashville (Altman)
Where is the Friend's Home (Kiarostami)
Early Summer (Ozu)
Diary of a Country Priest (Bresson)
The Sacrifice (Tarkovsky)
The Seven Samurai (Kurosawa)

Though if you asked me tomorrow it could easily be ten different films.

I'm sure I've left several off.

2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick 1968)
Brazil (Gilliam 1985)
Breathless (Godard 1960)
Hunger (McQueen 2008)
Mulholland Drive (Lynch 2001)
The New World (Malick 2005)
Persona (Bergman 1966)
Taxi Drive (Scorsese 1976)
There Will Be Blood (Anderson 2007)
Zodiac (Fincher 2007)

No Country for Old Men (Coen, 2007)
Mulholland Drive (Lynch, 2001)
Adaptation (Jonze, 2002)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
Braveheart (Gibson, 1995)
Pulp Fiction (Tarantino, 1994) - You take it and suck it PTP.
12 Monkey's (Gilliam, 1995)
Apocalypse Now (Copolla, 1979)
Alien (Scott, 1979)
Metropolis (Lang, 1927)

Report to the Commissioner - Milton Katselas 1975
Alphabet City - Amos Poe 1984
Trading Places - John Landis 1983
Spike of Bensonhurst - Paul Morrissey 1988
The Million Dollar Hotel - Wim Wenders 2000
Claudine - John Berry 1974
The Blues Brothers - John Landis 1980
Creepshow - George Romero 1982
Escape from New York - John Carpenter 1981
John Carpenter's The Thing - 1982

Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
12 Angry Men (Lumet, 1957)
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly (Leone, 1966)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick 1968)
Godfather Part I (Coppola, 1972)
Godfather Part II (Coppola, 1974)
Network (Lumet, 1976)
Glengarry Glen Ross (Foley, 1992)
Children of Men (Cuaron, 2006)
No Country for Old Men (Coen Brothers, 2007)


Last ones out were Magnolia, Big Lebowski, Do the Right Thing, and Dr. Strangelove

- Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
- On The Waterfront (Kazan, 1954)
- Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)
- 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)
- Blazing Saddles (Brooks, 1974)
- Network (Lumet, 1976)
- Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)
- Do The Right Thing (Lee, 1989)
- Groundhog Day (Ramis, 1993)
- Fargo (Coens, 1996)

Would make the list tomorrow: M, The Searches, Aguirre, Annie Hall, Raging Bull

"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

City Lights (Chaplin)
Seven Samurai (Kurosawa)
Belle de Jour (Bunuel)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick)
Goodfellas (Scorsese)
My Neighbor Totoro (Miyazaki)
Groundhog Day (Ramis)
In The Mood For Love (Wong)
Children of Men (Cuaron)
There Will Be Blood (PTA)

Sure to change in the time it takes me to write it.
Ten greatest:

CITIZEN KANE (Orson Welles, 1941)
SEVEN SAMURAI (Akira Kurosawa, 1954)
RULES OF THE GAME (Jean Renoir, 1939)
8 1/2 (Federico Fellini, 1963)
THE THIRD MAN (Carol Reed, 1949)
IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE (Wong Kar Wai, 2000)
THE GODFATHER (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)
THE DINNER GAME (Francis Veber, 1998)
PICNIC AT HANGING ROCK (Peter Weir, 1975)
CHINATOWN (Roman Polanski, 1974)


"Close but no Cuban" awards: CASABLANCA, THE GRADUATE, THERE WILL BE BLOOD, a couple Finchers (FIGHT CLUB, ZODIAC), ETERNAL SUNSHINE..., everything by Kurosawa, THE APARTMENT (my #11).


"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

(in no order)

THE GODFATHER PART II (Coppola, 1974)
M. HULOT'S HOLIDAY (Tati, 1953)
CITIZEN KANE (Welles, 1941)
THE WIZARD OF OZ (Fleming, 1939)
SUNSET BLVD. (Wilder, 1950)
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST (Trousdale & Wise, 1990)
DO THE RIGHT THING (Lee, 1989)
REAR WINDOW (Hitchcock, 1954)
SEVEN SAMURAI (Kurosawa, 1954)
LA STRADA (Fellini, 1954)

This list would definitely change given more time, but hell I needed to put one up.

n m

I just don't understand.

Great flick.


"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

I wish Ikiru was on the list
but no Wizard of Oz?

NO WIZARD OF OZ?

It's just... I... I can't even begin.

...the movie has aged beautifully. You put on other movies from the 1930s, and you can see the wear - even in the great ones (one of the reasons no one mentions GONE WITH THE WIND anymore). Or you can't see it past the films that have ripped it off (I can't watch Lang's M without seeing every thriller movie made after it). But WIZARD OF OZ pulls it off.
Everything in this movie is top notch.
*The use of effects to AID the story (a trait quite often forgotten since).
*Songs that advance story AND increase character depth (you don't realize it's a musical EVEN WHILE THEY'RE SINGING).
*It never once talks down to its audience (I know of no adult not scared for Dorothy when she's captured by the witch).
*Nothing about it is trite or tired, despite the fact the movie has been emulated by film and pop culture for 70+ years.
*It works every time, every viewing, under just about any kind of scrutiny.

Yeah, like I said, guilty as charged.




"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

It's long, boring and based on an ideal I stand in the face of.

The best thing about it is that it was directed and re-directed by George Cukor and Victor Fleming respectively, as was Oz.

No one's gonna mistake it for BIRTH OF A NATION, but it definitely didn't stay with the times.


"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

great films will be left off

It didn't crack the S&S 100. Yi Yi came in 100th, appearing on 17 ballets.

That means that no more than 16 out of the 800+ voters put it on their respective lists. All Oz had to do to make the final 100 was appear on 2% of the ballots and it couldn't do that. Less than 2% of our watch-keepers think it deserves mention for being on of the greatest films ever.

Look around the world and you will see its influence from Bollywood to Guillermo del Toro and that's only today. Its seamless blend of the real and fantastical helped lay the ground work for every children's movie that has come in its wake. It even contains a post-modern visual shift from the past to the modern that I can still remember seeing for the first time. To exclude it is not a misstep, it is an affront to any one that watches film for earnest pleasure without the need for academia nor irony. I assumed that even those of us who do relish pretentiousness or a mocking tone could let our guards down for a minute to recognize a film that embodies all of the criteria we seek in a great film.

The Wizard of Oz is a technical masterpiece. The Wizard of Oz has a marked impact on generations of films. The Wizard of Oz has lasting appeal that has transcended cinema and entered our universal consciousness culturally. The Wizard of Oz has been so revered, so influential I should let it rest on its laurels and accept that it didn't make the cut this time.

But 2%?

It's a children's film.

I personally don't think that's a flaw, but clearly these critics were not interested in kids films. Did a single Disney animated film make the list?

The divide is prolly even bigger for Disney films because they have several distinctive, critically-lauded eras.

How do you pick the best of the early years, yet alone one to sit atop the early years, the 60s pop, the 90s renaissance AND the Pixar takeover?

It's too much to ask.

As evidenced by my list, I think Beauty and the Beast should be considered their crowning achievement but I couldn't be angry at any number choices. Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, Lady & the Tramp, Little Mermaid, Lion King, Toy Story and Wall-E all have a legit argument for the best.

It isn't like this is the comparatively young Ghibli. They still have their godhead and already critics have coalesced around one film by him (though it isn't my preferred number one).

Disney stands no chance of making this list any time in the foreseeable future.

-The Samurai Trilogy (Hiroshi Inagaki, 1954 to 1956)

-The Apu Trilogy (Satyajit Ray, 1955 to 1959)

-Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai (Jim Jarmusch, 1999)

-The Thin Red Line (Terrence Malick, 1998)

-The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Peter Jackson, 2001 to 2003)

-Collateral (Michael Mann, 2004)

-The Game (David Fincher, 1997)

-Once Upon a Time in the West (Sergio Leone, 1968)

-Stray Dog (Akira Kurosawa, 1949)

-Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)

I gotta find a way to work The Big Combo (Joseph H. Lewis, 1955), There Will Be Blood, Children of Men, Empire Strikes Back, Rear Window, Alien, Jackie Brown, A Clockwork Orange, and Kane in there somehow.

Man this shit was hard. There's still 10 other movies I want to put on here. *Waits for Jason aka lc ceo to tell me how "wrong" my list is and write a film school essay about it*

Amores Perros - Iñárritu (2000)
Full Metal Jacket - Kubrick (1987)
There Will Be Blood - Anderson (2007-the recent GOAT year)
Brazil - Gilliam (1985)
Alien - Scott (1979)
Pan's Labyrinth - Del Toro (2006)
The Godfather - Coppola (1972)
Malcolm X - Lee (1992)
Fight Club - Fincher (1999)
No Country For Old Men - Cohens (2007)

*Wordman's Honorable Mention list actually reminded me of Fight Club, so I removed the Matrix

- 2001 (Kubrick, 1968)
- The 400 Blows (Truffaut, 1959)
- Risky Business (Brickman, 1983)
- Singin' in the Rain (Kelly and Donen, 1952)
- The Apartment (Wilder, 1960)
- Lawrence of Arabia (Lean, 1962)
- Do the Right Thing (Lee, 1989)
- North by Northwest (Hitchcock, 1959)
- Raging Bull (Scorsese, 1980)
- The Wild Bunch (Peckinpah, 1969)


I really did prepare a list of 50. Shit's too tough to narrow down to 10.

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We out here trying to function.

chronological:

Sunrise (1927)
Dodsworth (1936)
Rear Window (1954)
Contempt (1963)
Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)
The Spirit of the Beehive (1973)
Sixteen Candles (1984)
Goodfellas (1990)
Toy Story (1995)
No Country for Old Men (2007)

2001, A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)
Stalker (Tarkovsky, 1979)
The Fire Within (Malle, 1963)
The Party (Edwards, 1968)
Heat (Mann, 1995)
Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
Rear Window (Hitchcock, 1954)
High and Low (Kurosawa, 1963)
Days Of Heaven (Malick, 1978)
Orpheus (Cocteau, 1950)

Bicycle Theives (De Sica)
Casablanca (Curtiz)
Citizen Kane (Welles)
Do the Right Thing (Lee)
The General (Keaton)
The Godfather (Coppola)
Notorious (Hitchcock)
Raging Bull (Scorsese)
The Seventh Seal (Bergman)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick)

Obviously, like everyone else, I wish I could include a bunch of other shit. Also, I wish I had the balls to put THE TRIAL instead of KANE for my Welles pick...

considering how few of the S&S list I've still yet to see.

The Godfather, Pt. II (Coppola, 1974)

Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)

2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)

No Country For Old Men (Coens, 2007)

Blade Runner (Scott, 1982)

Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)

Laputa: Castle in the Sky (Miyazaki, 1986)

Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)

Raging Bull (Scorsese, 1980)

Once Upon a Time in the West (Leone, 1968)

The Shawshank Redemption, Frank Darabont, 1994
Se7en, David Fincher, 1995
The Big Lebowski, Coens, 1998
Alien, Ridley Scott, 1979
Gladiator, Ridley Scott, 2000
Jurassic Park, Steven Spielberg, 1993
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, Peter Jackson, 2001-2003 (so what it's 3)
Rocky, John G. Avildsen, 1976
Rear Window, Alfred Hitchcock, 1954
Saving Private Ryan, Steven Spielberg, 1998

I don't think there is any movie that better describes modern celebrity culture or even twitter/facebook/instagram culture better than that movie. Maybe I need to do a separate post to discuss.


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"naive as the dry leaves on the ground looking past the trees to the blue sky asking 'why me?'" -Blu

actually had many of the older flicks y'all like that i haven't seen to stream. it would be so easy to catch up on some of these classics, but some you add 'em for mail DVD and they don't come for weeks.

does anyone have the insight on why so many older films are not on the stream option

like why not set up a week (or two)to coincide with Side and Sounds choices and run films from like noon to midnight

struck an exclusive deal with Criterion to stream a lot of these older titles. they have 23 of the Top 50 available, while Netflix has just 7.

might have to look into that

If yes, I'm down,
but I only have energy for one thought intensive list a year.

We'll probably do that again, most definitely. I don't think most folks will contribute to this since it's so damn hard, and certainly tallying will be a bitch/mostly pointless. I just wanted to create a new forum for individual lists.

There Will Be Blood- Paul Thomas Anderson
American Me- Edward James Olmos
The asssassination of Jesse James-Andrew Dominik
Apocalypse Now-Francis Ford Cappola
True Grit- Coen Bros.
Heat- Micheal Mann
Life is Beautiful-Roberto Benigni
The Departed- Martin Scorsese
Forest Gump-Robert Zemeckis
Sin Nombre- Cary Joji Fukunaga

Just off the top of my head right now at this moment though.
Ask me next week or last and probably get an entirely different list

especially listing joints like American Me (THE Chicano epic - didn't age well IMO, though) and Sin Nombre (love that movie)

Aguirre
Blade Runner
Requiem for a dream
Last tango in Paris
Raging bull
2001
Mulholland drive
Godfather part 2
Trainspotting
Code unknown

Singing in the Rain

The Skin I Live In

No Country for Old Men

Midnight in Paris

Black Orpheus

Children of Men

Network

Malcolm X

Moonrise Kingdom

The Breakfast Club

if I could squeeze em in:
ET & Indiana Jones & The Temple of Doom
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

Pulp Fiction (1994, dir. Quentin Tarantino)
All About Eve (1950, dir. Joseph L. Mankiewicz)
Rushmore (1998, dir. Wes Anderson)
Do the Right Thing (1989, dir. Spike Lee)
Taxi Driver (1976, dir. Martin Scorsese)
Night of the Living Dead (1968, dir. George A. Romero)
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966, dir. Sergio Leone)
Spirited Away (2001, dir. Hayao Miyazaki)
Psycho (1960, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939, dir. Frank Capra)