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481298, Nip/Tuck - The Final Season(s)
Posted by ZooTown74, Wed Oct-14-09 09:01 PM

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481300, i thought there was at least one more season.
Posted by jehiza, Wed Oct-14-09 09:09 PM
also, NEWMAN.
481305, Well, it's technically one season...
Posted by CaptNish, Wed Oct-14-09 09:17 PM
...but it's split in half by a break.
481389, 1 thing this show will always do is make me laugh
Posted by rjc27, Thu Oct-15-09 07:42 AM
especially sean and christian...

better ep. then I expected, looks like itll be an interesting season...
481468, SPOILER
Posted by ZooTown74, Thu Oct-15-09 12:21 PM
This dude is a mime robber. A mime robber.


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481571, that was hilarious
Posted by MadDagoNH, Thu Oct-15-09 05:32 PM
I fucking hated the narration though. Really hope that was a one episode thing.

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481586, I can't do it anymore.
Posted by Crucian1, Thu Oct-15-09 06:28 PM
I think it should have ended like 2 season ago. I watched for like 30 minutes last night and could not get into it at all. I use to live for Nip/Tuck. The writing just sucks now. Even with Julia gone its like eh.

he still smells like man rape and peanut butter sammiches (c) teefiveten on Gucci Man
492107, any1 else been watching this year... last nights was dope
Posted by rjc27, Thu Dec-17-09 09:22 AM
lot of insane off the wall shit as always but I am curious how the final 9 wrap up, theyve hit a nice stride the last 2 weeks
492265, Yeah, this was one of their best episodes in years
Posted by ZooTown74, Fri Dec-18-09 12:00 AM
Simply because it had stuff, like stakes, a moral/ethical dilemma, stuff we could care about...

And yes, that was the fat "gay" guy from Modern Family...

So I guess we're down to the final 7 episodes (or did they say 9?)...


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492347, He said 9, and this ep. got me kinda amped going forward
Posted by rjc27, Fri Dec-18-09 10:23 AM
to see how it all ends up...

They have teased death so much that I really think either Mcnamara or Troy end up dead, if not both

Matt is clearly more psychotic then ever which is obvious by him ranting about making sure they kill the fat dude slow

I'm also curious how Julia ends up involved down the stretch
495557, Good episode
Posted by ZooTown74, Thu Jan-07-10 01:55 AM
The casting of young Sean and Christian was spot-on


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495570, young Christian especially did a great job
Posted by MadDagoNH, Thu Jan-07-10 07:40 AM
His vocal inflection as Christian was right on, funny that you can hear him stressing his words the same way when in likelihood, words are stressed that way because of Julian McMahon's Englishness.


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495579, He was spot on, same mannerisms when he spoke and everything
Posted by rjc27, Thu Jan-07-10 09:06 AM
495580, good ep, going deep into their past, but lil same ol' same ol' otherwise
Posted by rjc27, Thu Jan-07-10 09:08 AM
Christians cheatin', and now Sean is gonna start fucking Kimber again?

Either way, the show has had so many good season finale's I'm hype for the way they go out
499524, spoilers requested please:
Posted by morpheme, Tue Jan-26-10 12:19 PM
sometimes i have to back track on my nip/tuck watching

that bein said
i missed sumthin apparently

how did kimber & christian wind up married???
what's goin on w/matty???
499547, Spoilers answered
Posted by ZooTown74, Tue Jan-26-10 02:42 PM
>how did kimber & christian wind up married???

Christian asked her to marry him even though I believe she was still with Mike (Mario Lopez)... she ended up quitting Mike and getting with Christian, getting pregnant, then being persuaded to have an abortion because Christian didn't want to have any more kids...

>what's goin on w/matty???

After a brief stint as a mime robber, Matty got out of prison after Christian and Sean cut a deal with the state, where they removed some fat from a death row inmate (played by the fat "gay" guy on Modern Family) in exchange for a reduction in Matt's sentence... Sean, of course, was morally opposed to making such a deal, but Christian was all for it... Matt learned that the guy who was scheduled for the execution was actually innocent, but kept that information to himself in order to get out of prison, where he was a fellow inmates' ho... it got so bad that the inmate asked Christian and Sean to give Matt breast implants, and Matt told them to go ahead and do it... and they almost did, until Matt ended up killing the guy...


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500646, *tips hat*
Posted by morpheme, Mon Feb-01-10 06:03 PM
thank ye kindly, sir
500063, feels like they are just going through the motions this year
Posted by rjc27, Fri Jan-29-10 10:09 AM
I'm not sure I know what the point of last nights episode really was... and now they are going to bring the FBI in and the big finishing threat is they may end up in jail? I hope that's not it, I was looking forward to this final season and the last 2 ep's have been pointless
500658, I'm just watching because I've committed so much time to this show!
Posted by baldhead, Mon Feb-01-10 07:26 PM
I gotta see how it ends, but this is so incredibly painful.
506415, I'm glad the last episode is tomorrow night!
Posted by baldhead, Tue Mar-02-10 06:03 PM
I missed a few of the nuances in the last episode since I stopped watching around the time Matt was engaged to that woman.

I actually liked the subplot of the Jewish geriatric who was lying to his wife for so long. I haven't liked anything in this show for a long time.

Any thoughts on how this show will end?
Will Sean and Christian just break up?
Will one of them die?
Will one kill the other?
Will we find out Matt is someone else's offspring?

What else can this show throw at us?!?!?!?!

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506487, Nip/tuck used to be a good show
Posted by Big O, Tue Mar-02-10 11:59 PM
however, they jumped the shark when they moved to LA.
I tried to watch this season but it felt like they wanted to do too much.

The first three seasons were dope, the show just lost it's steam after the writer's strike
506515, or how about these questions:
Posted by SankofaII, Wed Mar-03-10 02:51 AM
Will Christian and Sean finally realize they love each other and fuck?

Will Ava steal that baby?

Will Julia finally get a clue and leave BOTH of them?

I'm over this show but I do want to see how they end it...
507035, I thought this was about to happen last night!
Posted by baldhead, Thu Mar-04-10 01:16 PM
>Will Christian and Sean finally realize they love each other
>and fuck?

When they were on the couch drinking with those women and telling each other how they love one another, I thought it was about to happen.

but it didn't.

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506514, Ryan Murphy and FX, on the finale (swipe) (MILD SPOILERS)
Posted by ZooTown74, Wed Mar-03-10 02:36 AM



'Nip/Tuck,' which changed cable TV, goes out on an understated note
And that's intentional, on the part of creator Ryan Murphy.

By Maria Elena Fernandez

March 3, 2010

"Tell me what you don't like about yourself."

When "Nip/Tuck" opened with that line in the summer of 2003, the television universe had no idea what it was in for. Alternatively emotional, outlandish, sexual, graphic, tongue-in-cheek and gothic, the story of two handsome Miami plastic surgeons (Dylan Walsh and Julian McMahon) "sucking the champagne and caviar out of life" was a breakout hit, and not just in terms of its own fledgling network, FX.

With its cultural statement about society's obsession with youth and its underlying message that "beauty is a curse on the world," "Nip/Tuck" resonated with aging baby boomers and younger viewers. It was the No. 1 basic cable series in the advertiser-coveted 18-to-49-year-old demographic for five straight seasons, tying with FX's "The Shield" the first year. Its audience grew each of its first four seasons, peaking at 3.9 million in the fourth.

TV critics embraced it, celebrity and entertainment magazines fixated on its cast, and actors lined up for guest-star spots. In its freshman year, the show won the Golden Globe for best drama.

Because all things must end, a theme explored often in the Ryan Murphy series, the story of Sean McNamara and Christian Troy (Walsh and McMahon) signs off Wednesday night, after seven seasons and, notably, 100 episodes. Its series finale signals the end of the era, when basic cable networks proved they could compete with HBO in original programming -- FX with "The Shield" and "Nip/Tuck," and USA with "Monk."

"It's the end of the first generation of cable originals that really made in-roads in television programming," said Brad Adgate, director of research for Horizon Media. "There are very few shows that have helped identify a network and that strike a chord on a lot of different fronts. 'Nip/Tuck' really hit the zeitgeist because it was so topical. It has a very secure place as one of the most impactful shows of the past decade of television."

Murphy, a former journalist who created the series after a consultation with a plastic surgeon left him feeling like he'd spent time on a used car lot, remembers pitching the show to FX executives the same day "People" ran its first plastic surgery cover story. "Extreme Makeover" on ABC had recently premiered, and Murphy attributes "Nip/Tuck's" success to its ability to comment on a fad that was becoming mainstream.

"That period of time from 2004 to 2007, I always look at as really materialistic and luxury-driven -- that time before everything crumbled, before the real estate market crumbled and the financial market crumbled," Murphy said. "'Nip/Tuck' perfectly mirrored the time we were in. What's interesting for me as a writer is that I wasn't trying to make a commentary about social mores in the country. I always thought the show was a satire about the country."

For much of its run, the show's audience saw eye-to-eye with Murphy and his writers. But as "Nip/Tuck" aged and its bizarre elements escalated -- how many times did McNamara almost die at the hands of nutty women? -- TV critics turned on it and viewers dropped out. Although it remained a steady and strong performer for FX, "Nip/Tuck" lost its pop culture appeal in its fifth season, dropping to 2.7 million in the 18-to-49 demographic, as other new series launched and succeeded, USA's "Burn Notice" and AMC's "Mad Men," among them.

In the short history of FX, "Nip/Tuck" also holds a special place because it validated the network's brand as the go-to place for dramas about flawed antiheroes and attracted young women, quickly building momentum for itself and for its network.

"One of the things that was most heartening to me about 'Nip/Tuck' was how odd it was and how original it was," said FX President and General Manager John Landgraf. "Obviously, it had elements that were very commercial -- a couple of good-looking guys in the lead and plenty of comedy and sexual intrigue. But it's really an uncompromising show in terms of the graphic nature of the surgeries and the original vision that Ryan brought to it. For FX, it was really exciting because it meant that we could support such uncompromising originality and still achieve great creative acclaim and commercial success."

Nearly seven years later, Murphy doesn't think he could sell "Nip/Tuck" today.

"Too much has changed and there's too much of a crackdown," he said. "The content for the first four seasons was so brazen and boundary-pushing. There's no way you'd get those scenes on the air today. For the good or the bad, those scenes launched a dialogue about what should or should not be on cable TV."

Wednesday night, when you hear Sean and Christian's trademark consultation icebreaker, "Tell me what you don't like about yourself," and the doors to their surgical offices close for the last time, fans might be shocked by the ending's subtlety. But that's a good thing.

"If you think about 'Nip/Tuck,' it had plastic surgery on child-molesting drug dealers, and alligators eating dead bodies, and John Hensley's character performing an auto circumcision," Landgraf said. "But it also had this really tender material. I think as Ryan sought to hold onto his audience and give his audience what he thought they wanted, the show got bigger and bigger over time. But I'm really glad he returned to the smaller and more tender side of the show's roots, because I think it was the only way to create a satisfying finale."



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506552, definitely looking forward to some closure
Posted by rjc27, Wed Mar-03-10 08:57 AM
though this season has been lost enough that I'm not sure I really care HOW it ends
506922, UGH!! Worst series finale ever!! Good riddance.
Posted by baldhead, Thu Mar-04-10 01:58 AM

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506934, Not with a bang, but with a whimper. Okay, I'll ride with it... *shrugs*
Posted by ZooTown74, Thu Mar-04-10 03:24 AM
Everyone's happy doing them, so that's cool

Ryan Murphy certainly earned the right to end the show on a graceful note like this, and not with more OUTRAGEOUS! © Lionel Richie

That would have been predictable, quite frankly

So I'm good



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506983, I kinda liked it to be honest
Posted by rjc27, Thu Mar-04-10 10:18 AM
I thought the ending was fitting...

after teasing Sean doing what he really wants all season and not being able to, they allowed to him to have a happy ending, and it made sense... so i liked that...

the matt storyline was a little weird but the guy's an asshole, his ending made sense

Christian still being Christian is great at the end... i liked how he said flat out he is who he is and does not want to change...

Playing that Art Garfunkel song was odd because the last time we heard that was the slasher coming to get Christian in the season 2 finale

507044, lol, Cast member finale reactions range from 'Cool' to 'That's it?' (swipe)
Posted by ZooTown74, Thu Mar-04-10 01:41 PM

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'Nip/Tuck' cast reacts to series finale
March 4, 2010 | 6:05 am

FX's “Nip/Tuck” ended Wednesday night with its 100th episode, which was filmed in Los Angeles in June. The Times, which had exclusive access to the set for the series finale, interviewed cast members about their thoughts on the final episode, which was written by creator Ryan Murphy and director John S. Scott.

Dylan Walsh

“Sean McNamara was always talking about how he wanted to do good. And the truth is that in the world of plastic surgery on “Nip/Tuck,” he wasn’t doing good. He wasn’t doing good for people. It turns out, he’s just part of the lessons that the show is constantly looking at. You’re not doing good for somebody necessarily by giving them plastic surgery. So in that regard it is good to finally send him off so he can do what he thinks is the righteous, good thing and to make some peace with his life. The only thing I would say is that to invent a new situation — Sean leaving to take care of this baby — I felt the finale should have been more about some closure with the things we’d already set up. It seemed like an odd thing to do.

You also ask yourself: How else would you end it? The two guys — there has been a love affair between two heterosexual men, which is what Ryan always said he wanted the show to be about. So then how do you split them up, and how and why? I do like that this season set up, from the beginning, you get a sense that Christian’s become the bad guy. He goes behind Sean’s back a few times. He forges some papers to get a loan. Various things. But in the end he does the good thing to give Sean the nudge that he needs to get out there and finally do what he’s been wanting to do. And I like that turn.

But it’s a show that week in and week out always had to deliver some shock and awe. And I think people tune in to see what bold thing are they going to do on “Nip/Tuck” tonight. And now you get to a finale where the expectation is so high to deliver yet more shock and more awe, and clearly Ryan wanted to go the other way with that and give a more subdued finish to it.”

Julian McMahon

“I know that some people felt like it was less than what you should do on “Nip/Tuck.” But I felt that it, in being a little less, meant it was different. I just didn’t think that was a bad way to go. You know, we’ve blown it out every show. What the hell do you do for a finale? Press the detonate button and blow up the TV screen? I don’t know. So, for it to be a little simpler and not so over-the-top and not so farcy, it was nice to be simple. In fact, I’ve always thought the show should have been simpler than it was. So, for me, it was nice to have it a little less than what we’ve been expanding upon for the last number of years.

“And what I really wanted to do in the shooting was settle everything down a lot. We’re used to characters expressing themselves and storming out of rooms or storming into rooms and then expressing themselves and blah, blah, blah. And I really tried as hard I could to make all of us settle down a little bit and sit in our stuff a little bit more. So with that you’ll get a very different show than what you’re used to, which I think is apropos.”

Joely Richardson

“I thought it was an absolute page-turner. What I liked about it is that its grown-up and reflective of these times. Right now, it’s quite grown-up times. I felt it hasn’t ended sensational. The ending is a mature ending. And I like that. It surprised us again by giving us something almost subtle.

We’ve done three or four of those dinner scenes around the table over the years, and it's always been my favorite bits to do. It started with the first season (and second season) and they were such wonderful seasons, and so exciting, and somehow as a cast member, it was really lovely to end with everyone around the table.”

John Hensley

“This is anticlimactic to me. I was craving for there to be some great twist. Those first two seasons, “Nip/Tuck” was quite successful at incorporating those. I was hoping to end on that note, and it just fizzles. It’s a distinct choice Ryan’s made, and I respect it. But I was so craving a twist. I was so let down to see Matt run off with Ava. By the time this episode rolls around, he’s been in prison, he’s murdered a man, he’s become the king of his cell block, let out early. The meth addiction, the Scientology. He’s got this great opportunity with someone who accepts him for who he is and he takes off with Ava and he’s like, “Here’s my baby,” and it’s not really explained.”

Kelly Carlson

“I found myself reading the script and getting a little pissed off that my child was going with Ava. I was a little mad. I was a little upset. It made me sick.”

“Kimber and Christian is like that syndrome where you attach yourself to the abuser, because they are so screwed up and they wish they could be with someone normal. It’s a great love story. It’s been so much fun playing because I feel we’re one of those couples on television that people won’t forget. “

Roma Maffia

“It went back to its Nip/Tuckism — the absurdity of the situations, but with the heart, the connection between seeing what they’re doing and why they’re doing it. Once we see why they’re doing it, we can’t separate ourselves from them. We can identify with them and it doesn’t seem as ‘out there.’ "

--Maria Elena Fernandez



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507097, good post. I agree with Hensley about Matt's ending too
Posted by rjc27, Thu Mar-04-10 03:38 PM
I am not sure I really understand Ava coming back into the fold, she was a great character but I felt all of that was unnecessary, even though it led to Sean being able to take the baby back
507113, Did Ryan and John overthink the ending?
Posted by baldhead, Thu Mar-04-10 04:43 PM
Sure, it's their show and they can do what they want.
With all the chaos over the years and this season, the finale seemed quite anticlimactic. Then again Kimber's death (suicide by drowning? really, guys?) was quite anticlimactic, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised that another major event in the show's timeline would be, too.
Meh ... maybe I just had hope for a show I used to like so much.

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507203, I loved this show in the beginning,
Posted by guru0509, Fri Mar-05-10 09:24 AM
but after the third season, with the Carver it jumped the shark for me

but those first 3 seasons were crakk
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