By Irresponsible Movie, I mean a movie that sends a messages so wrong and irresponsible that viewers would find themselves in Deep Doo Doo if they followed the message.

Like John Singleton's Baby Boy in which Tyrese killed Snoop Dog's character and still manage to live happily ever after.

I think the worse of all time though would have to be Pretty Woman which conveyed the message that a life of prostitution can lead to a fairy tale romance with a multi-millionaire.

I know most movies aren't necessary intending to convey a message, but a lot of the times they do whether they mean it or not.

Got any other examples?
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Never in real life, only in the movies.

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No they shouldn't. Their kids will end up getting nothing for Christmas.

These chicks murdered folks and ended up getting off scott-free and making a vaudeville act out of it.

I love this movie, by the way.

But it's about a drunk, drug-addicted mall Santa that sodomizes fat women in department store dressing rooms, cusses all the time and steals basically whatever he can get away with.

At the end of the movie, he steals a toy for a little kid, and teaches the kid how to beat up other kids and give them the finger.

Oh, and the cops that catch the Santa shoot him--unarmed--several times in the back.

The movie apologizes for none of these things.

I thought I might be able to just watch it and laugh at how blatantly wrong it is.

I didn't laugh once. It was just terrible. Even with that bullshit disclaimer at the beginning, there's no way to watch that movie without thinking that whoever made it really, really hated black folks.

"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

It had a purposeful agenda.

not that it is "go out and murder" irresponsible,
but it is certainly not the movie I'd want my children to model themselves after.

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particularly for young girls.

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View Askiew movies, but THIS one was on a whole another level

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It's really hard to find anything more reprehensible. With most other movies, the "I can't believe they'd..." factor is arguable, or at least excusable on some level (QT's use of certain words, hookers with a heart of gold, etc). But Birth and Hitler's propaganda stuff, that stuff is DEADLY - it takes on a whole new level.
You know how serious it is? D.W. Griffith and Emil Yannings completely ruined not just their career but their legacy by going down that route.


"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

Any movie that tries to actually make you feel more sympathetic to the US army during time of war is irresponsible.

you can't sympathize with American soldiers ever?

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I mean they helped cause the famine (BY flooding the market with cheaper grains and therefore putting the local farmers out of work), invaded the country, killed many civilians and yet they're the victims?

I probably should have expanded more in my first response but I figured it was universally seen as a j/k of a film.

I don't see how that movie was irresponsible.

I mean I consider a film like Top Gun propganda for the Air Force and they weren't at real war at the time (Cold War was the closest thing to one).

I mean between ppl's attitude towards Muslims and the Rah Rah Rah patriot American sentiment after Sept 11 this film could be seen as very irresponsible. The film The Siege the same thing, was before Sept 11 but still feel it's extremely irresponsible film b/c of what happened during Sept 11.

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I mean, seriously...how is that even possible?

>I mean I consider a film like Top Gun propganda for the Air
>Force and they weren't at real war at the time (Cold War was
>the closest thing to one).
>
>I mean between ppl's attitude towards Muslims and the Rah Rah
>Rah patriot American sentiment after Sept 11 this film could
>be seen as very irresponsible. The film The Siege the same
>thing, was before Sept 11 but still feel it's extremely
>irresponsible film b/c of what happened during Sept 11.

That's an extremely pathetic/stupid point of view.

i may be in the minority but i totally agree w you.
"Full Metal Jacket" is the shit to me. I also like "Apocalypse Now", those 2 being the only war movies i could fuck w.

The overall message was if the U.S. Military just let guys like Kurtz do whatever they felt like they needed to do, they'd win the Vietnam War sans fuss or muss.

i was thinking war is the most fucked up shit ever, and should be avoided at all costs.

it showed what depths a man has to go in a time of war -- accepting the lunacy and disregarding conscience so you can make the most efficient decisions possible (ie cutting off arms of the inoculated).

Kurtz had reached that depth. Willard's trip showed how he got there.

however, I don't think it was necessarily pro-US in regards to Vietnam. it was just the perfect vehicle of fucked up war that Americans can relate to.

>Any movie that tries to actually make you feel more
>sympathetic to the US army during time of war is
>irresponsible.

but disagree with this. movies like the fog of war make me feel more sympathetic to the us army in some ways, but overall, this film provided a really unique look at a bunch of shit i had never thought about.

ol ralph tresvant ass nigga

a lot of Hollywood movies show stupid shit that would never fly in real life.

I do hate Pretty Woman, part of it is that it launched Julia Roberts shitty career and the other part was that it was just dumb.

Nigga smoked weed
lived with moms
didnt have a job
accessory to break-in
dated hood rat
got caught up with drug dealer
got into a shootout
ended up getting a finer chick
beating a dude up
and walking away scott free
only to move to a better neighborhood
to break into more houses and smoke more weed.

>didnt have a job

he got fired over some bullshit...


>dated hood rat

yeah...that's on him.


>got caught up with drug dealer

that was his boy's fault, not his...



>ended up getting a finer chick

nothing wrong with an upgrade.


>beating a dude up
>and walking away scott free

he had it coming.

Are you mad at Stripes and Animal House as well?

Baby Boy is a good choice, btw. That movie is just bizarre.

I love drug films but something about this one disturbed me about how much it promoted excess. I remember reading quotes of Terry Gilliam defending the film and saying that it's extremely unlikely that anyone would want to anything like the film. Yet almost every person who liked the film wants just that.

I don't think you can tell that story without making their drug binge seem both crazy, fun and also creepy and totally self-destructive.

That's the best you can do. Ultimately, you know, whatever they try to say, kids ain't gonna give it up.

Couldn't wait til it ended.

show up? lol...

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Will Smith pushes an old woman and child into a closet, shuts the door

and leaves the house. and it explodes.

nothing trumps that
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That movie was distasteful, and in an un-entertaining way.

Before the old dude capped him didn't he get found not guilty? or guilty of a really light charge? ( It's been a while but I seem to recall a bullshit verdict coming back).


Also, a LOT of cats wanted to be druglords after they saw that movie...

I don't personally agree with this film being irresponsible b/c I think this film did a lot better job than Scarface, Godfather and defiantly Goodfellas of showing the downside of drugs (By showing Pookie going through rehab and Gee Money's story), and tried to make all of the violent scenes more shocking than just guys with cool guns (The Wedding scene alone did that). I think it's hard to make a film about the rise and fall of a drug dealer without glamorizing a little bit but Mario Van Peebles seemed to very much try to not do that, while at the same time not make a bs "just Say no"-type film (That speech that Nino has at the end is brilliant)

> (That speech that Nino has at the end is brilliant)


it was a run-of-the-mill copout that MOST drug Dealers use. Not buying it.

"we don't own no planes!!!"


No, Kramer you don't. But you're still getting drugs off the planes and poisoning your people...

just b/c they don't make the drugs but they get almost all the blame and pretty much they only ones who get charged with anything. It's just stupid to me to put the blame on the end result when the run-up consists of a lot of more powerful ppl (both politically and socially) who should be held more accountable.

they know that going in. That's WHY they shouldn't bitch about it.



>just b/c they don't make the drugs but they get almost all
>the blame and pretty much they only ones who get charged with
>anything.


Because they're the ones who get caught. How does the old saying go?
"It's only a crime if you get caught." The higher-ups don't get their hands dirty so they never get caught.


It's just stupid to me to put the blame on the end
>result when the run-up consists of a lot of more powerful ppl
>(both politically and socially) who should be held more
>accountable.

that's why they're NOT accountable. They have the power and resources to NOT be.

>It's just stupid to me to put the blame on the end
>>result when the run-up consists of a lot of more powerful
>ppl
>>(both politically and socially) who should be held more
>>accountable.
>
>that's why they're NOT accountable. They have the power and
>resources to NOT be.

They have the resources to not be held accountable in the courts but they don't for the general public, yet even though are eyes were opened during the Iran-Contra Scandal and other similar events most still choose to be blind.

need to watch it again

Dog you are funny

@based on your previous replies

Not without my daughter.

Got me in deep shit as the only muslim in the whole school. i remember my elder brother calling the guys from the network of rtl (germany tv station) to stop airing it LOL. this movie was and is sooo racist and irresponsible.

everybody thought this was normal behaviour in muslim families. racism all over the place. i hope nobody knows this movie, hehe.

lol

i was just talking to my boy about the need for a remake.
starring angelina jolie, of course.

Dude's a pedophile posing as an artist, and still manages to get away with it.

Or anyone even halfway likable? Chloe in Kids may be the closest he's come.

although plot-wise, all the kids in Bully were punished harshly and Kids had a sorta anti-AIDS message.

self centered "jerk"

I can't even name one in particular because there are SO many, and I can only imagine how many guys ended up gettin the game all fucked up because of this.

....is pure D bullshit.

Kids can't/don't wanna read until they get a nice white lady to teach them....

Africans in Africa can't kill a fuckin' lion without Kirk Douglas...

White guy goes to japan and becomes a better samurai in a matter of weeks than mofos who've been studying the art a lifetime....

The list goes on and on and on.....

Wait on whitey, he'll do it for ya, and do it better than you, you poor dumb nigger!!!!!
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does that make it responsible?

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>White guy goes to japan and becomes a better samurai in a
>matter of weeks than mofos who've been studying the art a
>lifetime....


now granted, he did go over there and hang out with them and learn a bit of the Samurai code, but I don't think he became a 'better' Samurai.


Nothing against you but a LOT of people who shit on the movie didn't see it, but based their disdain for it on the fact they thought Cruise was The Last Samurai, when it was actually referring to Katsumoto ( and his men).

Tom Cruise's character was already an accomplished swordsman and soldier in general. For him to become skilled with the Katana would not be so farfetched as the US army at the time carried a cutlass or saber. Both are edge slicing swords.

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I was so angry when I walked out of that movie!

I know what the message was supposed to be, but all I saw was "we're all racist, so therfore we're all equal"

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I love this movie but its bad

If life gets too stressful, assault people with firearms...

Death Sentence - Kill those who harm your family, don't wait for cops to do sh*t....

KIDS - irresponsibility is the theme of this film....

The Last Dragon - Take on a street gang with your superior ninja skills and never call the cops if your girl gets kidnapped several times....

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