I have always wondered this since I was a kid. I have my reasons why this is so but I've never heard anyone address this issue...not any actors/actresses...not any directors....or anyone in Hollywood for that matter.

All wagging it around like that.

No really of course the obvious answer is this is still a sexist society and put simply a lot of straight guys just don't want to see dong on the big screen, not for art's sake, not ever.

There are plenty of other countries like that at various levels, but since American movies make so much money...

I really don't see that changing any time soon, not in this country...it's about the same now as it was thirty years ago...

>No really of course the obvious answer is this is still a
>sexist society and put simply a lot of straight guys just
>don't want to see dong on the big screen, not for art's sake,
>not ever.

that's true but I'm still surprised you don't hear any women's groups claiming sexism or someone in mainstream media address this matter. This has been the norm in most films since I can remember and even today when there is more nudity in movies than ever before you still see women fully nude but not men.

>I really don't see that changing any time soon, not in this
>country...it's about the same now as it was thirty years
>ago...

yeah, I must say, I don't foresee any change either in this regard.

see, what this says more than anything is about mens sexual hangups, particularly white men, and the many insecurities about men and sexuality/sex and the human body and especially the female body.

Don't get all 'I-took-one-course-in Women's-Studies-so-I-know-everything-about-female-opression' on me, sheeeit.

joking or not on the computer....


>Don't get all 'I-took-one-course-in
>Women's-Studies-so-I-know-everything-about-female-opression'
>on me, sheeeit.

But I agree with you, there is a double standard. Any time a movie has full-frontal nudity it's gross, but any time an actress gets buck nekkid then she wins an Oscar.

and as a result have a society with completely fucked up views on sexuality.

So don't try and find logic in it, because there isn't any.

>and as a result have a society with completely fucked up
>views on sexuality.
>
>So don't try and find logic in it, because there isn't any.

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and Observe and Report

but a naked man isn't as elegant as a woman

boy oh BOY was he elegant
elegance personified
i'm mad i didn't see it in imax
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and the male body is like a Jeep © Elaine

Not even women.

>Not even women.

actually I don't think it's so much about not liking it as it is about double standards and sexism.

I mean although cock is rare I can think of 5 films right off the top of my head (Brown Bunny, Bad Lieutenant, Forgetting Sarah Marshell, The Watchmen, Boogie Nights) no problem and I know I could think of some more. Where as with vag Basic Instinct is the only one for sure, don't remember if Species had vag in it. But breasts are almost the only thing shown most times b/c vag is kinda offensive to a lot of ppl as is cock. Plus in our society we worship the female body much like Greek and Roman society worshiped the male body.

well there is the idea that when a woman is naked you don't "see" actually genitalia between their legs, and for men you do.

the second reason is that women do not really want to see a "flaccid" penis, it don't do nothing for them really. If films have trouble showing a flaccid penis, they for damn sure won't show an erect one, which women would prefer to see.

>well there is the idea that when a woman is naked you don't
>"see" actually genitalia between their legs, and for men you
>do.
>
>the second reason is that women do not really want to see a
>"flaccid" penis, it don't do nothing for them really. If films
>have trouble showing a flaccid penis, they for damn sure won't
>show an erect one, which women would prefer to see.

Do you think that's it?

Yes actually 99% of movies outside of porn will not show the vagina apart from public hairs, but...

Idunno if that's it.

It's not like 'well no one's interested in seeing a penis if it isn't erect, so why bother...'

If not now, then I know there at least used to be laws/rules that you absolutely CAN NOT show an erect penis in films, not in U.S. movies anyway.

Apart from non-porn, and this includes softcore--I can only think of two cases of this: Lie With Me--a Canadian film--and Catherine Breiullet's Anatomy of Hell.

I don't know, I'd imagine that sometimes the censors balk at showing erect nipples too.

I mean I won't suggest that I know exactly what kind of movie nudity turns on the average woman. But I also think most of the people making movies largely don't give a damn.

>Yes actually 99% of movies outside of porn will not show the
>vagina apart from public hairs, but...

he said public...lol

There's a great story about how Kevin Costner was supposed to have a full frontal scene during a sexy part of For Love Of The Game, and people in the test audiences kept laughing.

You'll see dicks waaaaay more often in comedies (Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Walk Hard, Sideways, etc) for that reason.

Shit, isn't that basically what Apatow said? He said it's ridiculous that people are offended, and basically, he just finds it funny. Add to that the other stuff (the dick being utilitarian and not all that great to look at, sexism by the people controlling this shit, American attitudes on the depiction of sexuality) and I think you have all the reasons.

But shit, even in something like Any Given Sunday, you know they had that locker room scene with the idea of using that as comic relief.

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>There's a great story about how Kevin Costner was supposed to
>have a full frontal scene during a sexy part of For Love Of
>The Game, and people in the test audiences kept laughing.
>
>You'll see dicks waaaaay more often in comedies (Forgetting
>Sarah Marshall, Walk Hard, Sideways, etc) for that reason.


so hilarious, moreso because it's unnecessary.

no one would laugh at duane johnson
no on elaughed at 300
and not a titter during watchmen
so yep
i call bullshit
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>and not a titter during watchmen

it got goofy, cause there was a reason, it just wasn't mentioned in the movie.

>
>>and not a titter during watchmen
>
>it got goofy, cause there was a reason, it just wasn't
>mentioned in the movie.

guffaw
nada
so what is your point?
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In Watchmen, folks WERE laughing.

The only scene in recent memory that had full frontal nudity effectively used in a way that didn't provoke laughter was Eastern Promises... and even then, teenagers were all giggly.

and not in any of the movie my friends saw
as a matter of fact the women LOVED it
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so there!
bigger projection should bring bigger laughter no?
no
ha!
long live male gratuitous nudity
(of equal body type value that is i'm not tryna see mr farley nekkid)
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Their panties get wet and their ears tune out the laughs of everyone else.

I'm learning a lot in this post. :)

people find funny dicks funny
kevin costner = funny dick (funny body not the most attractive dude)

duane johnson = not funny dick
blue man from watchmen = not funny dick
the mostly nude bodies of the 300 men...
um...who laughed again?
not i
but i guess most of the world is my friend in this case sir
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>and not a titter during watchmen

ew, his dick is blue! (c) grown woman two rows behind me

Jeff, it's your favorite part (c) fratboys

what the fuck (c) old man in front of me

got damn (c) me
woah(c)woman behind me
ooh keep showing that (c) woman far back row the titters were at her comment
not at the penis


& asking friends who saw it
not with me
nope
no one laughed
it was the exact opposite
major appreciation for male gratuitous nudity
need more of it in fact
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but you didn't collectively sit in on every viewing in America, and my experience was the exact opposite.

SOOOOOO

>but you didn't collectively sit in on every viewing in


sweeping statements are being made up and down this post
i didn't tell you to assume i sat in all theatres
and it is definitely proof you guys didn't as well
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there you go

The average straight man can go his whole life without seeing one swinging penis in a movie.

Women? If you want to see no female nudity at all, you have to avoid a great deal of R-rated movies, and that includes several of the Oscar Nominated ones.

Unless of course you're implying that if a woman can easily sit through female full frontal nudity, it's because she's secretly a lesbian...

My point: being a straight man has nothing to do with being repulsed by seeing male genitalia on a big screen. Maybe you'd have a point if you tried to say that they only show tiny dills on screen, and in general that gives men all round a bad rep...

>The average straight man can go his whole life without seeing
>one swinging penis in a movie.
>

So much for that right?

Theres 3 that i saw that i CANT UN-SEE!

There are exceptions.

But you probably know at least one guy out there who's never seen a film with male nudity.

If you know a girl that hasn't seen female nudity in some film, it probably means she doesn't watch R movies at all and almost never watches movies made in Europe.

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and it was fantastic
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or are both become more and more popular/acceptable?

I mean, just talking about sarah marshal, watchmen, observe and report and the other few that were mentioned, it seems like the trend is changing...

Cuz I can't think of any.


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and stop looking gift horses in the penis

I am new to this site, but this forum caught my eye. I remember this question being asked on a TV show a long time ago and the response was that the male anatomy is considered pornographic because of it's pronounced nature. I hope that makes sense... With women you really don't see much unless she literally opens her legs for the camera to show you all her glory.

shits look like the baby that hatched in Aliens

now, the actual pussy is pretty nasty to behold as well -- ain't nobody want to see a magnified clit on a big-ass movie screen neither

but women's breasts and ass are beautiful

even girls are mesmerized by those two features ("you have great tits! I love your butt in those jeans")