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446927, The Island was Michael Bay's best film
Posted by Rjcc, Sat Apr-18-09 01:12 PM
the only thing wrong with it is scarlett johansson not getting her titties out


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446931, No.
Posted by SoulHonky, Sat Apr-18-09 01:33 PM
1. The Rock
2. Bad Boys
3. Armageddon
4. Transformers
5a. The Island
5b. Pearl Harbor
5c. Bad Boys II
446938, RE: No.
Posted by Rjcc, Sat Apr-18-09 02:02 PM
>1. The Rock
NOPE. even sean connery can't save this lackluster performance by nick cage
>2. Bad Boys
NOPE. only thing good about it was martin lawrence and will smith improvizing, can't give mike the credit I'd like to
>3. Armageddon
FOH
>4. Transformers
YOU CAN'T SEE SHIT
>5a. The Island
>5b. Pearl Harbor
>5c. Bad Boys II
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446944, Vanessa Marcil is pig tails >>> ScarJo in The Island
Posted by SoulHonky, Sat Apr-18-09 02:50 PM
And Cage was great as the awkward hero in The Rock.

The Rock is better for "What kind of FUCKED UP tour is this?!" alone.

Also, Ewan Mcgregor is an immediately L in any American film. That guy has an amazing knack for picking shitty films.
446945, I had to google her to know who the fuck you were talkin about
Posted by Rjcc, Sat Apr-18-09 03:04 PM
that bitch is old and ain't got them scarlett tittays

ewan mcgregor pullin a dual role >>>>>>>> that mufucka that was in face/off YUP I'M TALKIN BOUT NICKY

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446952, I'm not even a Cage fan and I know that's utter nonsense.
Posted by SoulHonky, Sat Apr-18-09 04:22 PM
People are hating on Cage today because he's making decisions on par with Ewan Mcgregor's entire career. Ewan - Danny Boyle = garbage.
446955, NOPE, PADAWAN BETTER
Posted by Rjcc, Sat Apr-18-09 04:31 PM

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447381, LMAO@ Pearl Harbor being better than anything
Posted by Tw3nty, Tue Apr-21-09 10:32 AM
446940, fuck this place.
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Apr-18-09 02:29 PM
446959, RE: The Island was Michael Bay's best film
Posted by aolhater, Sat Apr-18-09 04:45 PM
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446965, i disagree.
Posted by raptor44, Sat Apr-18-09 06:00 PM
the island is where he really tried to do something a little bit different from his norm (other than Pearl Harbor - but at least the Island is watchable).

The Island doesn't start with a big action scene, and is fairly slow-moving (for a Michael Bay movie) in the first 40-45 minutes. it's crazy stylish, with the greens and blues he uses. BUT, the script is awful. and i'm not using that as an excuse for Bay, because i bet he had a lot of input on it.

i think it is a better movie than people give it credit, but it is more interesting as a failure of Bay trying to make a serious movie than anything else. i also think that if it had a better climax (the fight and strangling shit was WEAK), it would have a much better rep. that car chase (and everything in the city for that matter) was really good.

447017, your criticisms are heard but... look at the rest of the list
Posted by Rjcc, Sun Apr-19-09 03:57 AM
transformers ain't better
bad boys is good cuz of the leads
armageddon? GTFOHWTBS
the rock aint as good as people think, and I liked the rock. watch that shit RIGHT TODAY and tell me it's better than the island, nope, you can't

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447036, RE: your criticisms are heard but... look at the rest of the list
Posted by raptor44, Sun Apr-19-09 10:04 AM
i think transformers is better - it successfully does what it's trying to do.

you're right about bad boys though, and armageddon is terrible.

BUT the rock is great. i watched it again a couple weeks ago, and the last 15 minutes or so is still some really intense stuff. it is much better than the island, which i watched recently too.
447114, I knock transformers down because the special effects
Posted by Rjcc, Sun Apr-19-09 09:14 PM
don't let you acutally see what's going on in the fights, and other than that movie blah, not really good or bad.
I watched the rock and the island in the last week, they're among the relatively few dvds I own, I think the rock is pretty cheesy when connery isn't on screen

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447261, RE: I knock transformers down because the special effects
Posted by raptor44, Mon Apr-20-09 04:16 PM
i get that criticism of the action in transformers, but i thought it worked fine. but the most memorable shots are the ones where you can see what's going on, so you do have a point.

and you can't really hold the rock to a really high standard, because it's just an action movie (same with the island). i think the rock is better than most modern action movies, even with the corny stuff. the three leads all kill it, and sort of gloss over any real problems with the script. plus, outside of a few things in that control room, it doesn't really look too dated considering it's almost 15 years old.

i think the rock is far superior to the island, but i do like the island. it just wasn't as deep as bay thought it was or was trying to make it be, and that's where it crashes. it is an entertaining movie no doubt, but the rock is much better in my mind.
446992, I completely agree. I actually think it's not just his best film...
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Apr-18-09 10:50 PM
...but one of the best and most fun sci-fi flicks of the last few years. I own it on DVD.
447001, ^^^^preponderously powerful pontificating peepology
Posted by Rjcc, Sun Apr-19-09 12:18 AM

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447038, The fact that it is the best really says something about his career
Posted by simpsycho, Sun Apr-19-09 10:27 AM
447042, The Rock and Bad Boys say no
Posted by ZooTown74, Sun Apr-19-09 10:35 AM
and the lack of ScarJo's tits wasn't the only thing wrong with The Island

I'm not ready to declare that his career is misunderstood (he does put out too much shitty product as a director AND producer), but I almost agree with SoulHonky's ratings... and I'd put Bad Boys II higher up (THAT was the movie that coasted by on the strength of its leads)
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447062, aw hell naw. and I liked bad boys II
Posted by Rjcc, Sun Apr-19-09 01:45 PM

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447049, The Island of Product Placement? That one? Better than Bad Boys?
Posted by jigga, Sun Apr-19-09 11:48 AM
Naw fam. Both Bad Boys are way better & you can't just chalk it up to the leads. Of course Ewen & Scar don't hold a candle to Will & Martin, but the supporting performances, action, humor, etc...are all much better in the Bad Boys flicks. The Island sinks when Sean Bean's not on screen.
447061, ^^^^mad mike macked money mightily
Posted by Rjcc, Sun Apr-19-09 01:44 PM


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447202, ^^^^got there early for the ads & gotta double feature. YOU GLAD!?!?!
Posted by jigga, Mon Apr-20-09 12:49 PM
447207, <<<< YUP, GLAD ABOUT IT
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Apr-20-09 01:03 PM

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447071, Logan's Run>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Island
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447189, Agreed
Posted by spades, Mon Apr-20-09 12:23 PM
but only because the premise of Bad Boys was simultaenous preposterous and done before.

Not that I didn't like it, I'd watch that shit again, but I liked The Island way more than anything else by him.
447229, Nobody remembers Heat?
Posted by go mack, Mon Apr-20-09 02:11 PM
I'd say that was his best
447238, RE: Nobody remembers Heat?
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Apr-20-09 02:47 PM
>I'd say that was his best

CAUGHT IT!
447246, thats michael mann lol
Posted by JAESCOTT777, Mon Apr-20-09 03:05 PM
447274, Oops lol
Posted by go mack, Mon Apr-20-09 05:43 PM
I'll take my L


somehow I never mix up Tony and Ridley tho
447253, c'mon, Bowling for Columbine better
Posted by buckshot defunct, Mon Apr-20-09 03:44 PM


447255, The one with Burt Reynolds?
Posted by jigga, Mon Apr-20-09 03:52 PM
447387, definitely better than The Deer Hunter
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447247, It was a good ass movie I think The Rock was his best
Posted by JAESCOTT777, Mon Apr-20-09 03:06 PM
447294, that's the movie where ScarJo wanted to unveil her tits & Bay declined
Posted by Bombastic, Mon Apr-20-09 07:17 PM
I've boycotted that movie as a result.
447386, the fact that she hasn't done it yet...
Posted by MadDagoNH, Tue Apr-21-09 11:17 AM
...makes me think she had second thoughts afterward and won't do it now.

For that alone, Michael Bay should be neutered. Though I will give him credit for making The Rock (which is a truly great action film, almost Die Hard good in my opinion) and then a string of dumbass, incredibly enjoyable action movies.

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447337, I anticipated more mad-making. my anger oscilliscope needs work
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Apr-21-09 12:44 AM

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447338, You named a movie that I thought was great. Then I knew...
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Apr-21-09 12:46 AM
...that your mad-o-meter needed adjusting.
447344, If you want mad making: Daybreak was Taye Diggs's nadir
Posted by SoulHonky, Tue Apr-21-09 01:26 AM
Worst thing he's ever had his name attached to.
447345, SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU SONOFABITCH LOST KILLED DAYBREAK
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Apr-21-09 01:33 AM
THAT'S THE #1 REASON LOST SUCKS - IT KILLED ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS ON THE AIR FUCK LOST OMGWTFWHYYYYYYY

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447340, I watched it on HBO. was worth the time.
Posted by will_5198, Tue Apr-21-09 01:17 AM
I just want to mainly cosign how bad Transformers sucked.
447412, RE: I watched it on HBO. was worth the time.
Posted by jalen05, Tue Apr-21-09 01:41 PM
I actually think that Pearl Harbor was one of his better ones. Sure it had explosions, but it had a ton of acting talent, a great historical storyline and a real love story.
447432, Please edit, please, please, please edit, for the love of God, EDIT!
Posted by spades, Tue Apr-21-09 03:20 PM
447426, it's definitely a guilty pleasure and I've watched it more...
Posted by Grand_Royal, Tue Apr-21-09 02:48 PM
...than his other movies and it hasn't been out that long.


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447479, This post makes Baby Jesus cry.
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