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429483, Katt Williams >>>>>> Chris Rock
Posted by Deebot, Sat Jan-24-09 11:19 PM
true I coulda made this post awhile ago, but I dunno if it's ever been discussed.

Anyway, Katt Williams is funnier than Chris Rock. Agree? Why the hell not?
429484, nope.
Posted by disco dj, Sat Jan-24-09 11:39 PM
I've always preferred political comedy to 'Hood' Comedy ( aLa "Def Comedy Jam" and "Comic View"), so I like Chris Rock's ability to weave current events and politics into his routines. ( see also: the late George Carlin).

Is Katt Williams funny? As HELL. But not funnier than Chris Rock.


429486, k, I respect that
Posted by Deebot, Sat Jan-24-09 11:41 PM
but I ride with Katt
429918, RE: nope.
Posted by las raises, Mon Jan-26-09 09:28 PM
>I've always preferred political comedy to 'Hood' Comedy ( aLa
>"Def Comedy Jam" and "Comic View"), so I like Chris Rock's
>ability to weave current events and politics into his
>routines. ( see also: the late George Carlin).
>
>Is Katt Williams funny? As HELL. But not funnier than Chris
>Rock.
>
>
>
i agree with this 100%
431411, yeah.
Posted by Koku, Sat Jan-31-09 11:08 PM
429485, Chris is far more diverse and recycles less jokes....
Posted by Kira, Sat Jan-24-09 11:40 PM
In addition to that he has something Katt doesn't have and that is longevity.
429487, I wanted to leave the longevity aspect out of this
Posted by Deebot, Sat Jan-24-09 11:42 PM
not clear in the title, but I just think Katt is FUNNIER
429491, yep, once the Pimp shtick dries up, he might not have much left...
Posted by disco dj, Sun Jan-25-09 12:15 AM
429651, yep. you don't watch katt williams comedy
Posted by sha mecca, Sun Jan-25-09 10:51 PM
other wise you wouldn't say that.
429666, ^^^^MMMMHHHHHUUUUUUUHHHHHHHH
Posted by Deebot, Sun Jan-25-09 11:58 PM
429779, Nah, like I said...
Posted by disco dj, Mon Jan-26-09 01:29 PM
I've seen his act. He's funny as shit, but the whole Pimp persona gets old.


431032, Yeah, he talks about smokin' weed, too.............
Posted by iboycottedimdb, Fri Jan-30-09 11:37 AM
Diversity in full effect.

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429706, This is it right here. How long can the "I've been Pimping, since been
Posted by CaptainRook, Mon Jan-26-09 09:28 AM
Pimping, since been Pimping, since been Pimping, since been Pimping, since been Pimping" spill last.

Can you see him doing the same type of jokes, attacking the same topics 10-15 years from now?

What about if he gets married and his kids (does he have kids already?)? Will he be on the same shit if he has any daughters?

Katt's comedy is more of a gimmick, which cool if it works. But gimmicks don't last.
429762, he has at least 1 son
Posted by Deebot, Mon Jan-26-09 12:22 PM
and why do you guys think he talks about nothing else but "pimping"?

It's pretty clear to me that he's just fucking funny no matter what he talks about...
429867, Katt Williams has eight adopted children that he's basically rescued
Posted by Bombastic, Mon Jan-26-09 06:32 PM
and taken in.
429496, this vid is superior to any Rock piece
Posted by Deebot, Sun Jan-25-09 01:22 AM
"Don't you climb treeeees? NO MUTHAFUCKA WE GOT BILLS N SHIT!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h1euQKJsr4&feature=related


429589, It's extremely funny... but disagreed.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Jan-25-09 06:28 PM
429501, Chris Rock taller than Katt Williams
Posted by Framamind, Sun Jan-25-09 02:01 AM
....
429506, @ what? not narrating on film maybe. noting else
Posted by Ceej, Sun Jan-25-09 03:17 AM
429510, Naw he got em beat in the perm department as well
Posted by jigga, Sun Jan-25-09 03:34 AM
429562, FOH
Posted by ShinobiShaw, Sun Jan-25-09 04:12 PM

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429563, smh
Posted by Mynoriti, Sun Jan-25-09 04:19 PM
429564, No. Because he's not.
Posted by bignick, Sun Jan-25-09 04:34 PM
And I laughed my ass off the first time I saw Katt years ago.
But...no.

Chris Rock is an all-time great.
429613, Basically.
Posted by PolarbearToenails, Sun Jan-25-09 07:53 PM
It's nothing against Katt Williams, who's a funny guy, but it's comparing a very good comic to one of the five or ten best comics of all time.
429583, Man, Robin Harris>>>>A Pimp Named Slickback
Posted by spenzalii, Sun Jan-25-09 06:11 PM
RIP, BTW. Not that Katt isn't funny, but as has been mentioned, outside of the pimp angle, there's not much more to go with.
429886, I still listen to Robin Harris's bebe kids album til this day
Posted by Frank Castle, Mon Jan-26-09 07:38 PM
faithfully. And it still has me in tears.
429615, This is like comparing Joe Johnson to Michael Jordan.
Posted by ZooTown74, Sun Jan-25-09 07:56 PM
I like Joe's game a lot, but he ain't Mike

Or Kobe, for that matter
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429633, amazingly on-point analogy...I was trying to think of one like this
Posted by The Analyst, Sun Jan-25-09 09:26 PM
429619, neither of em is funny nm
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2) war on drugs/rockefeller laws
3) hiv/aids prevention
4) kids in foster/adoption system
5) lack of employment oppertunities/preparation
429620, ^^Now this was funny.. nm
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429623, But somehow I'M the one who's outta touch...
Posted by disco dj, Sun Jan-25-09 08:41 PM
riiiiiiiiiiiight.


429622, yall just mad
Posted by Deebot, Sun Jan-25-09 08:38 PM
face it
429673, lol I know right, I mean who is this Chris Rock guy?
Posted by ShinobiShaw, Mon Jan-26-09 12:30 AM
Never even heard of him

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429675, I never said Chris Rock isn't very funny
Posted by Deebot, Mon Jan-26-09 12:40 AM
he's quite funny actually. I give the delivery and expression edge to Katt though
429727, RE: I never said Chris Rock isn't very funny
Posted by jigga, Mon Jan-26-09 10:54 AM
>he's quite funny actually. I give the delivery and
>expression edge to Katt though

The versatility edge goes to CR tho which holds more weight in terms of whose the better comedian overall imo.
429986, RE: you're just reaching
Posted by tekktron, Tue Jan-27-09 08:43 AM
face it
430856, NIGGA, this shit right ^^^here, nigga this shit right ^^^here?!
Posted by Calico, Thu Jan-29-09 09:28 PM
..is on some bullshit...you asked a question, they gave you an answer you didn't like (which you HAD to know many would) and you mad now...

i like both and Just watched all katt's specials this weekend, and Chris is still far better...you don't think so? cool, but don't be mad cause you wanted your premise to be supported and erybody failed ya trust exercise...
429637, Fuck.Outta.Here.
Posted by SpookyElectric, Sun Jan-25-09 09:43 PM
429672, no
Posted by Zion3Lion, Mon Jan-26-09 12:29 AM
429676, uh huh
Posted by Deebot, Mon Jan-26-09 12:42 AM
429711, every time you post, I spend like 5 minutes wathcing your GIFs
Posted by MadDagoNH, Mon Jan-26-09 09:47 AM
They are hypnotic.

And yeah, Katt Williams is funny as hell, but Rock is just on another level.

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429864, Me too, that car one is wild
Posted by stankpalmer, Mon Jan-26-09 06:16 PM
429715, Nigga tell the same jokes evereytime i see him
Posted by JAESCOTT777, Mon Jan-26-09 10:06 AM
i mean Chronicals was funny
but i have to see more than that same shit erry time

429718, I'm going to disagree
Posted by Dae021, Mon Jan-26-09 10:13 AM
I think Chris Rock is insightful inways that people of all races, colors and creeds can understand and find hilarious.

Katt is funny as shit, but he's also a little bit more black oriented.

If we're just going to take Chris Rock's best work and put it up against Katt's i don't think anything Kat has can touch "Bring the Pain"

Bring the pain was on a comedy great level homie.

no diss to katt because that shit I saw last night had me howling, but I just think Chris Rock is on that short list of comedians however many you have, Chris is on that list.
429872, I'm kinda mad he recycled this JB Smoove bit tho.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Jan-26-09 06:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRmFEpl74sI

vs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZWc38whLvg

(and yes, it's my understanding Smoove's been doing this bit for a long, long time)

(and yes, the Williams version is funny too... but the Smoove bit is funnier)

429982, JB Smoove is choppy as a motherfucker, man.
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Tue Jan-27-09 08:36 AM
430858, yeah, Smoove's is way funnier
Posted by Calico, Thu Jan-29-09 09:40 PM
...and i KNEW i'd seen what katt did on AH b4, i just couldn't remember where...
431533, that entire first clip
Posted by spirit, Mon Feb-02-09 01:15 AM
...illustrate my point about katt leaning on physicality over actual well-written material

the funniest parts of that bit aren't even verbal

it's like silent film

physical comedy takes a great deal of talent as well, of course, but i tend to value the comedians that have the underlying fundamentals of well-written jokes "more seriously" than the cats who rely more on physicality (similarly, i value guys who can be funny clean more than guys who lean on profanity heavily, because best believe the best at it can do it either way...not saying katt can't, but i think his effectiveness would be dulled)

maybe this is an extension of the lyrics versus beats argument? LOL
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429880, Cmon.
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jan-26-09 07:14 PM
Katt is great, but Chris Rock he isn't...
429887, Naw
Posted by Frank Castle, Mon Jan-26-09 07:40 PM
Katt's more of a gimmick and his vocie can get annoying at times. He's funny but not on Chris Rock's level. If Katt Williams had a show, it wouldn't last 2 seasons.
429901, Even though Katt is like a stick of dynamite, it's definitely Chris.
Posted by kevgalaxy, Mon Jan-26-09 08:07 PM
Reason being is because he knows how to reach the inner core of social & political issues.
429958, RE: Katt Williams >>>>>> Chris Rock
Posted by Deebot, Tue Jan-27-09 02:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvS82FbvWkw&feature=related
429974, rock my nigga
Posted by The Letter L, Tue Jan-27-09 05:24 AM
born suspect
big ass jokes
bring the pain
bigger & blacker
never scared
kill the messenger

throw in the chris rock show and it's a wrap.

that's a body of work that none of chris rock's contemparies can touch.

429981, He keeps it realer. That's for sure. I don't know how it all works
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Tue Jan-27-09 08:28 AM
as far as preparing the public for realness, but Katt gets a little deeper than Chris, even when you compare their latest specials ("It's Pimpin' Pimpin'" & "Kill The Messenger").

The way they hyped KTM, I thought Chris was going unfiltered like Louis C.K. and some of the other comics like him (Patrice Oneal, Doug Stanhope, whoever else ;) )
429983, Keepin' it 100, I barely made it through Kill The Messenger.
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Tue Jan-27-09 08:39 AM
edit: It just felt like he wasn't quite getting to the point, even at the payoff/final joke.
431366, Is anybody going to respond?
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Sat Jan-31-09 06:34 PM
431368, You asked. People answered. Most disagreed with you. Move on.
Posted by bignick, Sat Jan-31-09 07:01 PM
431448, Nobody answered any of my remarks. Did you think I was the original
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Sun Feb-01-09 08:08 AM
poster?
431483, response
Posted by Calico, Sun Feb-01-09 05:33 PM
you sayin katt keeps it realer? or katt more jokes about "real niggas"? OR that "hood comedy" keeps it more real?.... as i was watching his stuff i realize katt almost runs his own shit into the ground....after a awhile i got tired of real niggas vs fake niggas and him being a hustla...he's got more, i know, but i wish he wouldn't rely on tryin to turn each show into a motivational speech....i like katt but he's kinda myopic...

431651, The pimp angle? Chris has an "angle" too.
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Mon Feb-02-09 04:08 PM
431554, I disagree...
Posted by Ketchums, Mon Feb-02-09 04:21 AM
Chris Rock gets a LOT deeper with his jokes in my opinion. As was said he touches on more diverse topics, and I think his standup routines flow a lot better from joke to joke. It sounds natural. Katt's great, but he's got a more limited range (I don't even mean he just talks about the pimp angle...he's just not as versatile as Chris Rock). That, and as was said, he relies more on expression and physicality than Chris Rock does...Chris Rock is sort of a funny-looking nigga anyway, so he doesn't have to use that as much.

And Chris Rock's movie appearances > Katt Williams'. Easily. Katt's got time on his side though, so I think he'll make the gap closer
431653, I don't understand how you can say that.
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Mon Feb-02-09 04:09 PM
They're both people expressing ideas and opinions. I think Katt gets to the point better than Chris does.
430836, http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5663/crackhead1xg9.jpg
Posted by Raised under Reagan, Thu Jan-29-09 07:18 PM


Kill yourself!

Chris Rock is running this comic shit.
430878, RE: Katt Williams >>>>>> Chris Rock
Posted by Deebot, Thu Jan-29-09 11:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nADCd4xjWBk

431043, Katt Williams voice alone make him horrible
Posted by josephmurf2384, Fri Jan-30-09 11:56 AM
if he is even in your top ten comics you need to check for new shit, because dude is weak.
431058, That's My Shit!
Posted by Bombastic, Fri Jan-30-09 12:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRmFEpl74sI
431180, No. Fucking. Way.
Posted by professor, Fri Jan-30-09 06:04 PM
Katt is funny like a 'humorous-nigga-around-the-way' funny, but Chris Rock is 'professional comedian' funny.

Anybody can make funny OBSERVATIONS about around the way shit *punctuated with a bunch of pratfalls*, ala Katt, but Chris Rock tells JOKES.

With Chris you get observational humor, plus JOKES (a set-up, a story, a twist, a punchline), plus politics, plus social commentary.

Katt spends 1/3 of his set talking about ghetto unicorns *the mythical haters* and seeing how many times he can put the word motherfucker into his sentences and still be semi-coherent.
431266, http://i39.tinypic.com/2e0jk1g.jpg
Posted by FrankEinstein, Sat Jan-31-09 04:26 AM
http://i39.tinypic.com/2e0jk1g.jpg
431324, is that real?
Posted by Deebot, Sat Jan-31-09 01:41 PM
431391, nah it's not
Posted by come on people, Sat Jan-31-09 09:37 PM
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/gameshows/millionaire.asp
431400, in relation to the subject of this post, Yeah, it's real.
Posted by FrankEinstein, Sat Jan-31-09 10:05 PM
431476, oh, definitely. the point was made & made well.
Posted by come on people, Sun Feb-01-09 04:00 PM
i don't think that's what dude was asking tho.
431392, Nope!
Posted by come on people, Sat Jan-31-09 09:37 PM
431479, No, but Chris is overrated though.
Posted by icecold21, Sun Feb-01-09 04:59 PM
431530, chris is a far better writer
Posted by spirit, Mon Feb-02-09 01:08 AM
i never noticed how weak of a writer katt was until the sidekicks on the jamie foxx show made snide comments about katt's comedy chops after katt roasted steve harvey alive.

katt relies a *lot* on physical comedy

i personally think the art of actually writing jokes and doing thematic bits is difficult as hell. and chris does an hour plus. i enjoy katt immensely, but in some ways he is "getting over" by stretching what are essentially one-liners into two minute bits by adding tuck and rolls and wild facial expressions.

he's hilarious.

i just can't rank him above a guy who i feel *works harder* and writes better. and, in top form, is just as funny.

my two cents
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431660, RE: chris is a far better writer
Posted by Bombastic, Mon Feb-02-09 04:47 PM
>i never noticed how weak of a writer katt was until the
>sidekicks on the jamie foxx show made snide comments about
>katt's comedy chops after katt roasted steve harvey alive.
>
but yet Katt has made me laugh far harder than Jamie Foxx or Steve Harvey ever have, which is the overall objective of a comedian correct?

>katt relies a *lot* on physical comedy
>
>i personally think the art of actually writing jokes and doing
>thematic bits is difficult as hell. and chris does an hour
>plus. i enjoy katt immensely, but in some ways he is "getting
>over" by stretching what are essentially one-liners into two
>minute bits by adding tuck and rolls and wild facial
>expressions.
>
>he's hilarious.
>
>i just can't rank him above a guy who i feel *works harder*
>and writes better. and, in top form, is just as funny.
>
>my two cents
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>http://liberatorscomic.com - cops get shot. random hip-hop
>references. fun for the whole family.
431603, RE: Katt Williams >>>>>> Chris Rock
Posted by Tiggerific, Mon Feb-02-09 12:19 PM
I like them both. I really respect Katt's "Star Player". I was just listening to It's Pimpin Pimpin on my phone. Dude is hilarious!

But, I will always be a Chris Rock fan.
431761, Inbox me when Chris does something as wack as that Internet dating movie
Posted by Russel Simmons Day Job, Mon Feb-02-09 11:17 PM
i like em both but Chirs is much wittier and can get just as ignant if not more!
431780, bring the pain >>>>>> Katt Williams
Posted by LAbeathustla, Tue Feb-03-09 12:19 AM
434415, THEY SPINNIN NIGGA THEY SPINNIN!!!!
Posted by The Cypher, Mon Feb-16-09 04:14 PM
THEY SPINNIN NIGGA THEY SPINNIN (c) Chris Rock