The only movie I can think of that was clearly better than the book would be "One Flew over the Cukoo's Nest". And I think it was mostly due to jack's performance.

From what I hear, Godfather.

I do agree on S.R. though

that I've ever seen...

The Sicilian.....................................

I was always mad curious if there were ever any talks to do The Fourth K

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The Sicilian was a great read and the movie was horrible. Cutting out Michael Corleone didn't help any (maybe it should be a mini-series) but they could have done it a lot better even without Michael.

I still can't believe they cast Christopher Lambert as THE SICILIAN.

The 4th K has some amazing parallels to what really happened (allowing a NY tragedy so the President can declare war) but there are some issues that would have to be worked out (not a huge fan of the ending).

on the Sicilian. Ugh, I can't even think about it.

I thought of The Fourth K immediately after 9/11. Yeah, the events in the book did ring a little too true to life.

Was Puzo psychic?

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"I don't think muthafuckas went to the moon either, but that's just me."-Mos

that pulp piece of trash.

That's one of the few movies that unquestionably transcends the trash pulp novel that spawned it, and the studio was none too please with Coppola for it, either. They were desperate to fire his ass because he wasn't turning in the pulp popcorn flick the book was calling for on the screen.

I dunno, maybe Im wrong then. I thought it was good.

there were tons of gratuitous explicit sex scenes in that book. For those who haven't read it, let me quote one (only 27 pages in):

"at that moment she felt his hand come up beneath her bridesmaid's gown, heard the rustle of material giving way, felt his large warm hand between her legs, ripping aside the satin panties to caress her vulva. she put her arms around his neck and hung there as he opened his trousers. then he placed both his hands beneath her bare buttocks and lifted her...she let her right hand drop from his neck and reached down to guide him. her hand closed around an enormous, blood-gorged pole of muscle. it pulsated in her hand like an animal and almost weeping with grateful ecstasy she pointed it into her own wet, turgid flesh."

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it doesnt have to be one or the other, the godfather was a fantastic read. Authentic and in depth with all the different families

as far as books go, the Godfather was a page-turner, no more, no less. If you read other books, no matter how much you might have personally enjoyed the Godfather by Mario Puzo, it should be painfully clear that the book is not that fantastic as a book.

The movie, though?

It isn't just fanboy bullshit, the movie legitimately has a claim to the greatest movie ever made. Never in a million kazillion hojillion kukugajamabajillion fucking years would you ever say that about the book.

One of these things is not like the other. And it's the book. The book kinda sucks, but the movie is transcendent.

Puzo was a good pulp storyteller but Coppola raised that film to a higher level.

The movie that is closest to Puzo's writing style was Godfather 3 which was just kind of a silly genre movie with some completely random romances thrown in. No surprise, Coppola didn't have much passion for that one and did it because he needed the money.

It's like if someone took a Tom Clancy novel and turned it into one of the greatest movies of all time. Not knocking Clancy but his books aren't exactly looked at as great literature.

...now THAT would have made Godfather a completely different film.

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The book also paid waaaaayyyyy more attention to Lucy Mancini (the bridesmaid Sonny fucks at Connie's wedding) than the movie ever did. If FFC stuck to the book, Godfather III couldn't have existed...which might have been fine with some people.

Reading the book after seeing the movie gives you insights into character motivations that also makes you appreciate the movie a lot more because that stuff is always there without the book. It just seems a lot more pronounced after reading the book. Especially Michael's whole awakening in Sicily and Carlo as a sleazy ass character.

The book is actually a pretty good companion piece to the movie, if you want to take it that far.

As far as movies that were better than the book, I'm kind of surprised no one has said Fight Club yet.

And that was a big plus.

And you're right, there would have been no III if FFC stuck to the book.

No Lucy pregnancy, therefore, no son.

But no Andy Garcia, either! So III gets a pass.

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"I don't think muthafuckas went to the moon either, but that's just me."-Mos

>As far as movies that were better than the book, I'm kind of
>surprised no one has said Fight Club yet.

the movie improved upon the book in a number of ways, but it falls apart in the third act and really handles the reveal at the end in a really ham-fisted, unintentionally hilarious manner... for that alone, i can't give it to the movie.

mostly because King condemned the movie and later made his own terrible version of it.

J.N. does it again.

It really wasn't even the same story. I agree the King's version sucked ass too, but his books aren't great transfers to film.

I read it during my King spree where I read just him for like a year and dont remember being impressed...ill check it out agian

And both are great in their seperate mediums. Most of the stuff that made the book really creepy and scary couldn't have translated into film or would have looked awful if done at the time (even the Hedge-monsters looked ass-awful in the remake).

>And both are great in their seperate mediums. Most of the
>stuff that made the book really creepy and scary couldn't have
>translated into film or would have looked awful if done at the
>time (even the Hedge-monsters looked ass-awful in the
>remake).

not just one?


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The entire point of the story is that the Overlook makes this guy go insane. Jack looks unhinged the first time we see his crazy ass on screen.

In the book, the hotel is clearly evil. In the movie, the place almost seems neutral and reacts to/reflects Jack's own insanity.

I know alot of people get confused by the picture of Jack at the end, but there's really no reason to, especially if you've read the book.

One of my favorite books of ALL TIME!!! But, I am a big King fan.

Why I love the Stanley Kubrick movie version of The Shining, I can't think about it in the same vein as the book. They may be based around the same premise, but to me, they are different stories.

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cause I hated that movie.

obscure short story from King with a HORRIBLE ending that was vastly improved due to the closure given from the film's ending.

Outside of Marcia Gay Harden, that movie was pretty laughable.

I really liked the movie and thought it was one of King's better film adaptations

And besides, did you read other novels in that series? The characters are SOOOOOOOO much deeper in the book. And adventures are waaaay more exciting.

that early 1800's prose style is so dense and distracting.

>And besides, did you read other novels in that series? The
>characters are SOOOOOOOO much deeper in the book. And
>adventures are waaaay more exciting.

I dunno about the other novels, but the characters are much deeper in the movie than in the original book. especially Magua.

I guess I got all the "good parts".

book was some anarchistic bullshit with a man and a computer in love <--- fucking dumb.

Movie took the good, distilled it into a general parable about rebellion against authority. Tightened up the loose ends and excised the embarrassing man-machine love plot which is sadly central in the book.

...this might not be fair...but Count of Monte Cristo inspired V for..the comic thats spawned the movie. v for vendetta the movie might be better than the comic but both are inferior to The Count by far, imo

I agree.

The original graphic novel was far from perfect, but V was a bad-ass, as opposed to a candy-ass.

a) he was alliterating, not rhyming
b) V spent a whole chapter singing a song he wrote about the drama in his life in the book. I'm gonna go with that as much gayer than anything in the movie.
c) in general, it's much more obvious to me that V is gay in the book than in the movie. I didn't even really get that impression when I saw the movie...then I read the book.

>book was some anarchistic bullshit with a man and a computer
>in love <--- fucking dumb.
>

You may want to read that one over.

Hate me now (c) Nas

did you read the books after?

maybe.

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and I can't see how the movie would even come close.

A lot of his movies are based on novels and have basically eclipsed the books completely.

Psycho, Rear Window (short story), To Catch A Thief, etc.

I say this and I really loved the book.
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the movie? *liked it*

the book? *Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz's*

the book was interesting for its religious overtures... i love the whole idea of the younger generations going nuts and the idea of society going "Lord of the Flies"

idk man. i read the book before i saw the movie and wished i didn't cause it paled in comparison in some ways. The movie was good but the book is much better

...from what I've heard, anyway. But from reading some of the prose of Puzo's book, a lot of it seems like little more than pulp.

Coppola turned that pulp into visual poetry.