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402749, do you find actor trademarks distracting?
Posted by spirit, Fri Sep-19-08 09:32 PM
say an actor has a particular trademark, like talking with their hands or fussing with their hair or something they do throughout their filmography...does this ever distract you or take you out of full enjoyment of that person's films? because technically each film character is supposed to be a unique person and there should be no continuity of personality traits across films.

(somehow i would like to think eddie murphy's laugh does not count...lol)
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402753, one that I notice but dont find distracting..
Posted by JS, Fri Sep-19-08 09:46 PM
is denzel sayin "my man"

he makes it work & doesnt over do it too much but it is something Ive been seeing more often the more i watch him
402754, i thought that was specific to american gangster
Posted by spirit, Fri Sep-19-08 09:49 PM
i'm gonna go back thru the dvd collection and see how many times i can catch him saying it.
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402757, i know he does it in Training Day...
Posted by JS, Fri Sep-19-08 10:06 PM
& I think he did it in X but i havent watched that for a minute...
402761, "My nigga" ?
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Fri Sep-19-08 10:37 PM
402828, Ummm, and all those characters are afrocentric characters.
Posted by ansomble, Sat Sep-20-08 12:36 PM
403799, naw, you got it wrong
Posted by dunk, Wed Sep-24-08 01:11 AM
my nigga for training day, my man in american gangster and malcolm x he said neither.
403806, damn, oh well...... "I thought wrong" (c) austin powers
Posted by JS, Wed Sep-24-08 02:51 AM
403798, that was just American Gangster
Posted by dunk, Wed Sep-24-08 01:10 AM
he creates little sayings or idiosyncratic things for all his characters
402756, it you dont want continuity go to the theatre
Posted by DubSpt, Fri Sep-19-08 09:57 PM
movies are built on casting.
you don't cast the man,
you cast the character the man portrays.

but maybe I am the only one that believes this any more.
402759, Denzel distracts the hell out of me. So does Wendell Pierce, actually.
Posted by ActWon, Fri Sep-19-08 10:13 PM
Every time I see him, he's The Bunk (always a cop, or a cigar-smoking cool dude in a suit). Even as a preacher, I guarantee there's a deleted scene in that movie of him huffing a cigar.

I really like both, though.
402762, Did Steven Seagal cut off his ponytail yet?
Posted by Warp and Woof, Fri Sep-19-08 10:47 PM
Because that thing is really keeping me from not seeing Steven Seagal as simply Steven Seagal.

On a somewhat related note, his minibiography on imdb starts like this:

"Steven Seagal is a striking and somewhat boyishly handsome looking (often with ponytail) and usually impeccably dressed action star who burst onto the martial arts film scene in 1988 in the fast-paced Warner Bros. production Above the Law (1988)."

402774, boyishly handsome? HA!
Posted by spirit, Sat Sep-20-08 12:10 AM
son looks like his face hit a land mine.

no promo.
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Posted by Redstar, Fri Jan-09-09 01:49 PM
Steven Seagal is a striking and somewhat boyishly handsome looking (often with ponytail) and usually impeccably dressed action star who burst onto the martial arts film scene in 1988 in the fast-paced Warner Bros. production Above the Law (1988)."


426195, They make a reference to Segal in JCVD don't know if it's true or not.
Posted by DeadMike, Fri Jan-09-09 04:43 PM
402800, Eddie Murphy did his laugh in damn near every movie
Posted by the_one, Sat Sep-20-08 03:55 AM
403712, too bad HE'S the only one laughing during his movies...
Posted by disco dj, Tue Sep-23-08 04:55 PM
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402837, Will Smith...
Posted by xbenzive, Sat Sep-20-08 03:01 PM
you pick.
426218, Oh HAIL NO!
Posted by Adwhizz, Fri Jan-09-09 07:08 PM
nm
426224, "aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!"
Posted by Flash80, Fri Jan-09-09 08:12 PM
insert random action scene where he has fly or shoot something
402841, Meryl Streep's incredulous/nervous laugh
Posted by coin., Sat Sep-20-08 03:28 PM
402853, Meryl Streep always SUFFERING, *gag*
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402869, according to whom?
Posted by Damali, Sat Sep-20-08 07:38 PM
because
>technically each film character is supposed to be a unique
>person and there should be no continuity of personality traits
>across films.

is this written in the Big Book of Acting somewhere? 'acting' is one of those abstract concepts that isn't really defineable in a concrete way and there's no rule book. you just do it however you do it. some actors study a method, some don't. some actors live their characters, some just pretend to. good or bad acting is subjective, isn't it?

humans are doing the acting and if some of the person's personality comes thru, i don't think that's a big deal. what matters to me is that they sell the performance in that particular piece...that they deliver believeable emotions at the appropriate time


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402999, each character exists in their own universe
Posted by spirit, Sun Sep-21-08 08:44 PM
it's a generally understood rule of film. each film, unless it is a sequel, is a standalone 'world' separate and apart from other films by the same actor. that's why it was so funny to see the trading places characters reappear in coming to america (i think i got the right films). they're not supposed to 'be' there and are breaking the fourth wall in a way, a metaphorical wink to the audience that is familiar with eddie's filmography.

each film is like an alternate universe to itself (sequels are another story in the same universe)

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403099, i understand what you're saying
Posted by Damali, Mon Sep-22-08 09:22 AM

but i also believe that if yo look at the filmography of every actor that we would consider 'great', and really scrutinize their performances, you will find that every single one has some personality trait of the individual that is consistent throughout. because we are humans. we can't 100% supress the self. that's all i'm saying
403791, not talking about 'really scrutinizing' this is about...
Posted by spirit, Wed Sep-24-08 12:44 AM
...blatantly obvious recycling of 'patented gestures'.

really great actors keep this to a bare minimum, which is how people 'forget' who they are in a role.

sure, if you did some type of frame-by-frame analysis, you'd catch everyone repeating something...i'm talking about personality traits that are easily visible to even the casual moviegoer as 'ah there goes actor x doing trait y again'. a good example is all those 80's films with the patented swarzenegger one-liners. how likely is it that any given 20 people in 20 different situations would all have the same terrible sense of humor in response to people dying in grisly ways? LOL.
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402921, Forest Whitaker's Lazy Eye
Posted by KingMonte, Sun Sep-21-08 06:16 AM
I like him and all, but every damn time I see him, there it is.

edit: that's physical, but then there's the breathy way of talking. Like he just ran a mile, hit his mark and did the scene.
403357, ^^^^^awwww but funny
Posted by bmoregrl, Mon Sep-22-08 08:26 PM
he cant help that lazy eye.
403453, Thank you, cause I KNOW I'm not the only one that sees it
Posted by KingMonte, Mon Sep-22-08 10:08 PM
403101, the tom cruise run...
Posted by bleekgilliam_420, Mon Sep-22-08 09:33 AM
403167, I need a movie of nothing but Tom Cruise running.
Posted by Quack, Mon Sep-22-08 01:19 PM
He dropped the ball not getting in that Prefontaine movie. That Oscar was **his**.
403496, dude can book. i'm not mad. his goat run was in MI1
Posted by cheapskeight, Tue Sep-23-08 12:16 AM
403515, I don't know.....he was bookin' in MI3 too...
Posted by rorschach, Tue Sep-23-08 02:50 AM
But Abrams exaggerated it too much with the blurred background. I was in the theater SMH like, "I know Tom Cruise can run--but he ain't running that fast."

They had him running harder than Usain Bolt.
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403735, Cruise>>>>>>>>>>>>Bolt in War of the Worlds
Posted by jigga, Tue Sep-23-08 05:55 PM
426187, Cruise after Tripplehorn in The Firm>>>>>>>>Owens in Munich in '36
Posted by Big Chief Rumbletummy, Fri Jan-09-09 04:11 PM
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426214, Cruise runnin away from Colin Farrell in Minority Report>>>>>>>>>
Posted by jigga, Fri Jan-09-09 06:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>Ben Juicin in the late 80's
426169, Ha ha. "Kittridge, you've never seen me very upset...."
Posted by Flash80, Fri Jan-09-09 03:21 PM
426145, RE: the tom cruise run...
Posted by jswerve386, Fri Jan-09-09 01:33 PM
YESSSS!!!!!!! lmao..

That run with the wide eyes.. classic.
403503, Harrison Fords family being kidnapped
Posted by JS, Tue Sep-23-08 01:40 AM
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/106541/harrison_fords_family_is_always_in_danger
403578, harvey keitel's cock.
Posted by willydynamite, Tue Sep-23-08 11:05 AM
he needs to put his blade back in it's sheath already.
403838, Like DeNiro always repeating himself? Sometimes, but not much
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403855, eh, lil bit.
Posted by willydynamite, Wed Sep-24-08 11:39 AM
404191, ^^I just read these two replies in a Deniro-responding-to-Deniro voice
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Sep-25-08 05:06 PM
I laughed.
426188, In RONIN, he even had jean reno doin it
Posted by Big Chief Rumbletummy, Fri Jan-09-09 04:14 PM

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403839, Shia LaBoeuf's "nononononononononononono"
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Sep-24-08 10:34 AM
lol
404185, Shia's "nonononono">>>>>>>>>>>>his cry in eagle eye
Posted by jigga, Thu Sep-25-08 04:41 PM
404175, AKA the "I'll be Back" Post.
Posted by jswerve386, Thu Sep-25-08 04:19 PM
404188, denzel pointing his finger when hes mad.
Posted by Clark Kent, Thu Sep-25-08 05:02 PM
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404204, Ben Affleck's mouth-breathing never fails to crack me up
Posted by mrhood75, Thu Sep-25-08 05:30 PM
426146, James Gandolfini's breathing..
Posted by jswerve386, Fri Jan-09-09 01:35 PM
426159, Christopher Walken's cadence
Posted by Ray_Snill, Fri Jan-09-09 02:23 PM
sounds like he's doing an impression of someone doing an impression of him




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426168, The Clint Eastwood scowl and *groan*
Posted by Flash80, Fri Jan-09-09 03:20 PM
426202, Nick Cage everything
Posted by Innocent Criminal, Fri Jan-09-09 05:35 PM
426223, the Vincent D'Nofrio (sp) *Head Tilt*
Posted by disco dj, Fri Jan-09-09 07:56 PM
check out L&O, and wait until he's interrogating a suspect. You'll see what I mean...