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400521, RE: you ask too much, sir
Posted by Sponge, Tue Sep-09-08 05:56 PM
>It was definitely poetic, and I am willing to give more of his
>stuff a try, but Tokyo Story definitely wasn't the one that
>will make me fall in love with him.

Forgot to say, given that you dig Ikiru, I'd say there'd be a few Ozus you'd like in some fashion.

>I see what you're saying, but Mizoguchi wanted more of the
>film to focus on the bailiff and the studio wanted him to
>focus more on the children. I think once it started getting
>changed the title became less appropriate, especially
>considering he still could have given it a title that
>reflected the message he wanted to convey about power instead
>of implying that Sansho was a bigger, more important character
>than he actually did. To me the governors at the beginning
>and end of the film held just as much weight as Sansho, even
>if the time spent under Sansho lasted much longer.

True, but Sansho was a more direct/proximate force in the 3 protags' lives. Putting aside expectations of the film being about Sansho the character, I think it's a pretty fitting title and already conveys the film's themes.

>It was, but this was also the time of pre-Code Hollywood (and
>it IS france) so I didn't find too much of it to be that
>scandalous.

Wasn't trying to say that it was risque by miles ahead of everything else; just saying it has elements that the typical rom-com didn't usually have.

>>>Mostly access, I don't know very many female directors.
>And
>>>let's be honest, they do not get nearly as much credit as
>>>their male counterparts.
>>
>>But that has little to do with the quality of the films and
>>more with the fact that male directors are given more
>>opportunities then and now and we live in a male-dominated
>>world which affects the processes and results of
>tastemaking,
>>gatekeeping, and canon-forming.
>>
>>Female directors do get as much credit as male directors
>it's
>>just given out by fewer people if we're including the
>>mainstream. But directors like Denis, Akerman, Varda, and
>>Deren are lauded in film history books and film criticism.
>
>That is my point though - I know that the only reason you
>don't hear as much about female directors is because they are
>females, and since there aren't as many female critics (or at
>least not as many well-known female critics) they consistenly
>get left behind, accidental or not.

My bad. It wasn't clear to me that that was your sentiment when you wrote:

>>>let's be honest, they do not get nearly as much credit as
>>>their male counterparts.

It's my fault, but it sounded like you were saying that another factor was that since they're not as well-known as male ones then that's more the reason not to delve into their films because if they're not well-known then they're not good.

>>>>Celine and Julie Go Boating, man. Celine and Julie Go
>>>>Boating.
>Thats a pretty big rec. I'm gonna start hunting in my local
>libraries for it.

Regardless if you end up liking it or not, I think it's essential viewing.