The CineFex issues that talk about them might be fun, but trying to watch them as "movies" was not, for some of us.

There's no hate on the directors - their movies just stink AS MOVIES, to some (to most?)

The love for them here are like the posts in The Lesson that proclaim that Mos Def is just getting better every release (with The New Danger as his best) and that Phife > Q-Tip.

I think the Wachoski's problems is that they need a hundred million dollars to make a movie and there may not be enough people who think the "beauty" is worth the $14 to go see.

I don't.