and "Why Did I Get Married?"

ethic stereotype? yup, a fat jolly punjab. check

one dimensional over the top antagonist? would someone call a kid a a "little shit" for adjusting a bed? or climb into a fuckin body of water because someone's toy boat hit his toy boat? CHECK!

dumb ass female? thandi...L! at least if she were in a tyler joint, she and her agent could point to them numbers and get her some bigger checks. CHECK!

one dimensional sidekick? how many times did they have to show dude's bare ass for a cheap laugh? CHECK!

that movie was a fuckin travesty. simon's reign at the time was shorter than his box office numbers.

But really that's the general opinion of that movie.

It's gotten a LOT of negative reviews.

It really stinks cause I think in a big way the movie was riding off of the sucess of Simon Pegg's stuff with Nick Frost. You know, like "If You liked Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead..."

But mostly people just said it was a very generic, lame romantic comedy.

Personally I'd much rather see Meet The Browns. And that says a lot.

just off the strength of Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz. Thanks for saving me a few bucks, I guess.

This was Pegg with Michael Ian Black.

And the previews for RFR looked terrible as well.

same here...I remember looking at the add for it, and being stung by Hot Fuzz....

you couldn't pay me to see that shit

You didn't get it.

seriously, someone fill me in.

about a guy who does a marathon to win back the girl he ran from at the altar (played by Thandie Newton). Simon Pegg did a rewrite. David Schwimmer directs. Hank Azaria plays the ex-fiancee's current boyfriend.

thanks for the info though.

but david schwimmer...
yeah rental it is
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Both are garbage. What's your point?

In addition, do your homework. Simon Pegg + David Schwimmer = straight to video.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0488085/

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Yeah they both look like garbage (haven't seen either)

that's THE ENTIRE point of this tyler perry shit. y'all be givin these dumb ass white movies passes on some "so? there are lots of bad movies"

fuck outta here...TALK ABOUT IT!

Pegg isn't going to get as much hate because the hate stems from success. If Hot Fuzz had opened at #1 or #2 and made 40+ million, I'm sure you'd hear a lot more people hating on it. If Run Fatboy Run was #1 or #2 more people would hate on it.

If Perry's films made moderate amounts of money, most people would ignore them and I'm sure some people would even be saying "Well, they aren't my cup of tea but it's good to see someone making positive African-American films out there."

I'd say wait a week until Leatherheads but I bet that bombs as well and, as a director, Clooney isn't touching Perry's box office success either.

And honestly, the apathy (Superhero movie bombing and no post) is harsher than the hate IMO.

as it does the stake black folks have in how movies starring black folks are looked at. If the Perry movies had the same themes but were made by and starred white folks, they would be largely ignored by everyone. Hate wouldn't ensue, but, instead, indifference.

>Pegg isn't going to get as much hate because the hate stems
>from success. If Hot Fuzz had opened at #1 or #2 and made 40+
>million, I'm sure you'd hear a lot more people hating on it.
>If Run Fatboy Run was #1 or #2 more people would hate on it.

just wrong

>If Perry's films made moderate amounts of money, most people
>would ignore them and I'm sure some people would even be
>saying "Well, they aren't my cup of tea but it's good to see
>someone making positive African-American films out there."

eh...that's kinda my point, but not really.

>I'd say wait a week until Leatherheads but I bet that bombs as
>well and, as a director, Clooney isn't touching Perry's box
>office success either.

YOU SEE IT, TOO?!?!?!?

>And honestly, the apathy (Superhero movie bombing and no post)
>is harsher than the hate IMO.

nah, the hate is harsher because it comes from a bad place.

as much as you think.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=352548&mesg_id=352548&listing_type=search

I liked it though. And I still haven't seen a Tyler Perry movie, or do I have any intention to.

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they both some bullshit, but you willingly, and with forewarning, give one a pass.

His shit just ain't appealing to me. His tv show, his plays, his movies. All of that. From what I've seen is pretty wack to me. I don't like hokie corny ensemble dramas with unfunny comedy thrown in there, whether black or white. I don't care if Jill Scott, Malik Yoba, Tony Terry, Janet Jackson, the nigga that played Spawn, Jim Brown, Redhead Kingpin, or Stoney Jackson are in it. I can look at his commercials and see, that's some "Hav Plenty" shit. I"ll pass.

I also didn't think Run Fat Boy Run was bad. I dl'ed that shit, and thought it was aight. Simon Pegg has a good track record with me.


Oh I also see lots of bad black flicks too if that makes you feel better. Just to note a few:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451166/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384331/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0822791/

I've also been known to watch any Hill Harper movie.

NOPE! You said "any"

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> I don't like hokie corny ensemble dramas with unfunny
>comedy thrown in there, whether black or white. I don't care
>if Jill Scott, Malik Yoba, Tony Terry, Janet Jackson, the
>nigga that played Spawn, Jim Brown, Redhead Kingpin, or Stoney
>Jackson are in it.

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Zoe couldn't even save that one.

Simon Pegg is coming off of Spaced, Shaun of The Dead, and Hot Fuzz.

Perry is coming off of other Madea/Perry movies.

There's a reason Pegg's joint gets considered quicker. His movies are better, even if this one sucks.

but from where I'm sitting ( up here in the "Who Gives a Flying Fuck" Section), it seems like THIS is why people go so ahrd on Tyler Perry fans.


This whole post reads like "SEE? White movies can suck TOO!!!!"

bottom line, why point out OTHER Shitty movies as a defense for the flaws that people cite for not liking Tyler Perry? Not matter how animated the dicussion gets, the bottom line is going to be that two camps will argue over what makes one movie shittier than the other, or at BEST, they will argue in support of a shitty film...


why compare a turd to another turd? That's what this discussion is.

If you like TP do you. If you don't do you.
If you like silly Suburban comedies, do you. If you don't do you.

I know I'm gonna get my ass handed to me on this, but I'm just trying to understand why people are so heated about OTHER people's taste in movies, and what makes one better or worse than the next.

have you missed all these discussions? Only that can excuse such wrongness.

>have you missed all these discussions?

like I said, I usually stay OUT of these discussions. That states that I OBVIOUSLY haven't seen them all. You can shout me down and be all smart alecky, but I came here to discuss, fella.


Only that can excuse
>such wrongness.

aside from your disagreement of what I said, what inherently makes me "Wrong"?


I'm not here to draw swords and engage you in e-battles. But from what I can tell, you seem more content to embarrass heads than actually talk about shit. That's cool. I do my fair share of it in The Lesson, so I can take it when it comes back at me on THIS side of town.

But my point is this, I don't see how clowning ONE crappy movie makes another one better.


( and however you decide to reply, if you do at all, PLEASE Don't come at me with the self-hate shit.)

>>have you missed all these discussions?
>
>like I said, I usually stay OUT of these discussions. That
>states that I OBVIOUSLY haven't seen them all. You can shout
>me down and be all smart alecky, but I came here to discuss,
>fella.

anyway...the point is I HAD TO START THIS THREAD shitting on pegg's movie because y'all never go after these white dude's flicks with the same fervor like you do with TP, if you do AT ALL. who talking about drillbit taylor? not y'all niggas. but, let a TP movie come out...here y'all come, all eager and persistent and shit, like zombie's pressed for brains. and it's ONLY because he's successful. if he was tanking, y'all niggas would pay it no mind. but, like crab ass niggas do, y'all hate LOUDLY on that dude, on some stupid shit like "he making it harder on up and coming black filmmakers" and "he go to church too much"

fuckin napkin head ass niggas.

>Only that can excuse
>>such wrongness.
>
>aside from your disagreement of what I said, what inherently
>makes me "Wrong"?

you wrong because you working from a fucked up premise. your whole argument is fucked up.

>I'm not here to draw swords and engage you in e-battles. But
>from what I can tell, you seem more content to embarrass heads
>than actually talk about shit. That's cool. I do my fair share
>of it in The Lesson, so I can take it when it comes back at me
>on THIS side of town.

then, go back to the lesson.

>But my point is this, I don't see how clowning ONE crappy
>movie makes another one better.

i'm glad you don't see how, because no one's tryna get you to see that.

>( and however you decide to reply, if you do at all, PLEASE
>Don't come at me with the self-hate shit.)

it is what is, man.

>anyway...the point is I HAD TO START THIS THREAD shitting on
>pegg's movie because y'all never go after these white dude's
>flicks with the same fervor like you do with TP, if you do AT
>ALL. who talking about drillbit taylor? not y'all niggas.

I don't wanna see any of THAT shit either. If shit looks dumb, I don't care WHO directed it, White or Black...

but,
>let a TP movie come out...here y'all come, all eager and
>persistent and shit, like zombie's pressed for brains.

not THIS guy. I don't begrudge TP his success. In fact, based on the little TP shit I've been exposed to, It's not my steeze, so I don't see enough of his shit to like OR dislike it.

and
>it's ONLY because he's successful.

That's not true. Most of the people that don't like his work, are *usually* critical of the work itself, not the man's Bank statement.

if he was tanking, y'all
>niggas would pay it no mind.

He's Making money hand over fist, and I personally STILL don't pay it no mind...

but, like crab ass niggas do,
>y'all hate LOUDLY on that dude, on some stupid shit like "he
>making it harder on up and coming black filmmakers" and "he go
>to church too much"

I've never said that, and to his credit, there's a SHITLOAD of bad Blakc filmakers. He isn't the first OR the last one.

>
>fuckin napkin head ass niggas.

See? THAT'S what I'm saying. You can't expect people to hear you out when you resort to name calling.


>
>>Only that can excuse
>>>such wrongness.
>>
>>aside from your disagreement of what I said, what inherently
>>makes me "Wrong"?
>
>you wrong because you working from a fucked up premise. your
>whole argument is fucked up.

again, is that simply because you don't like what I'm saying? PROVE me wrong.


>
>>I'm not here to draw swords and engage you in e-battles. But
>>from what I can tell, you seem more content to embarrass
>heads
>>than actually talk about shit. That's cool. I do my fair
>share
>>of it in The Lesson, so I can take it when it comes back at
>me
>>on THIS side of town.
>
>then, go back to the lesson.

So basically, if I don't ride with you, I can't hang out in PTP? C'mon son, that's childish.


>
>>But my point is this, I don't see how clowning ONE crappy
>>movie makes another one better.
>
>i'm glad you don't see how, because no one's tryna get you to
>see that.
that's the underlying theme of this post. "SEE? White dudes make shitty movies TOO!!"


>
>>( and however you decide to reply, if you do at all, PLEASE
>>Don't come at me with the self-hate shit.)
>
>it is what is, man.

WHAT is what it is? So not liking Black media ( with no regard to quality) inherently makes a person self hating? That makes no sense.


This has gone on WAAY too long. I'm not even a TP hater, but you guys go so hard it makes people NOT like him for that very reason. I really don't see why there has to be a line in the sand...

Not everybody likes Spike Lee. That doesn't make them less Black.

>
>>anyway...the point is I HAD TO START THIS THREAD shitting on
>>pegg's movie because y'all never go after these white dude's
>>flicks with the same fervor like you do with TP, if you do
>AT
>>ALL. who talking about drillbit taylor? not y'all niggas.
>
>I don't wanna see any of THAT shit either. If shit looks dumb,
>I don't care WHO directed it, White or Black...

then MAKE or REPLY to a fuckin thread about it, then. PROVE to me that you don't fuck with those films either. all i see if you coming into TP threads hatin. i mean, until you act different, that's what you are to me.

> but,
>>let a TP movie come out...here y'all come, all eager and
>>persistent and shit, like zombie's pressed for brains.
>
>not THIS guy. I don't begrudge TP his success. In fact, based
>on the little TP shit I've been exposed to, It's not my
>steeze, so I don't see enough of his shit to like OR dislike
>it.

mmmmhuh. enough with this, man. too many like you. i done had this debate enough. you don't like his movies, that's fine. but, don't come in my threads crying because i'm shittin on some white dude's bullshit ass flick that you happen to like.

i can only assume hankyheadedness from such behavior.

>then MAKE or REPLY to a fuckin thread about it, then. PROVE to
>me that you don't fuck with those films either.

If I don't fuck with it, why make a thread about it? That would be making myself look like an asshole. the FIRST word out of anybody's mouth would be "If you don't fuck with it, why do you care?"

and they'd be right.

all i see if
>you coming into TP threads hatin. i mean, until you act
>different, that's what you are to me.

maybe you meant in general. I don't post up too much in threads that relate to movies I haven't seen. and like I said earlier, I've never seen a TP flick all the way through. Now I'll comment on the politics of it, but the actual review post of the film is not where I belong. I can't hate on something I haven't seen.


>
>> but,
>>>let a TP movie come out...here y'all come, all eager and
>>>persistent and shit, like zombie's pressed for brains.

you keep saying "ya'll". I think you've just waged war on everybody as a whole.


>>>mmmmhuh. enough with this, man. too many like you.

But YOU'RE all cool, right? Your way is the only way to see things? What do you mean "like me"?

i done had
>this debate enough. you don't like his movies, that's fine.

Apparently not, becuase you seem to think it's fundamentally wrong to NOT like his shit.


>but, don't come in my threads crying because i'm shittin on
>some white dude's bullshit ass flick that you happen to like.


Haven't seen it. Why? It looks like some shit I WOULD NOT LIKE.

nobody's crying , dog. But you're being just as hateful as you seem to think everybody else is.

>
>
>i can only assume hankyheadedness from such behavior.

Never Assume, because, well, you know the rest.

No personally, I got no beef with you, but you're all worked up becuase we have different viewpoints. WPOTGIT? We can disagree on a message board, can't we?

I haven't ONCE called you out of your name, NOR have I made any assumptions about you. You're out the box with this shit, man.

>anyway...the point is I HAD TO START THIS THREAD shitting on
>pegg's movie because y'all never go after these white dude's
>flicks with the same fervor like you do with TP, if you do AT
>ALL.

I have to say this because you never acknowledge it: I (and others) go after TP and not bad white white movies because I am black and I am concerned about black things.

I couldn't give a fuck if white people make bad movies, except to say that I am against ALL bad movies. But if white people make bad movies, fuck 'em. Black people make bad movies and, this being key, people just accept it, I'm gonna speak on it.


who talking about drillbit taylor? not y'all niggas. but,
>let a TP movie come out...here y'all come, all eager and
>persistent and shit, like zombie's pressed for brains. and
>it's ONLY because he's successful. if he was tanking, y'all
>niggas would pay it no mind. but, like crab ass niggas do,
>y'all hate LOUDLY on that dude, on some stupid shit like "he
>making it harder on up and coming black filmmakers" and "he go
>to church too much"


I include this link to an article in Sunday's LA Times, not as definitive proof of my side of the argument, but to say that it's not just latte sippers on some random website saying that TP's success is making things difficult for other black filmmakers. Sure, you can discount the people in the article. But just dismiss my point as just some griping on OKP.

http://tinyurl.com/2jhtxs

Carry on.

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>>anyway...the point is I HAD TO START THIS THREAD shitting
>on
>>pegg's movie because y'all never go after these white dude's
>>flicks with the same fervor like you do with TP, if you do
>AT
>>ALL.
>
>I have to say this because you never acknowledge it: I (and
>others) go after TP and not bad white white movies because I
>am black and I am concerned about black things.

EXCEPT most of your concern for BLACK THINGS IN FILM COMES IN THE FORM OF CRITICISM. And then you go about the business of contributing to threads about NON-BLACK films, not showing so much as a hint of the negativity you bring to threads about a TP joint...WHY?

let's just deal with this first. i ain't even interested in the rest of that bullshit you wrote.

>EXCEPT most of your concern for BLACK THINGS IN FILM COMES IN
>THE FORM OF CRITICISM.

What criticism? Be specific. Until you can show me you are talking specifically about my posts, I feel no need to address this. You have a habit of lumping everyone together in your incomprehensible rants. Here's a clue to help you out: I'm the one who doesn't like Tarantino, remember?


And then you go about the business of
>contributing to threads about NON-BLACK films, not showing so
>much as a hint of the negativity you bring to threads about a
>TP joint...WHY?

Again, who are you talking about? On threads about non-black movies I like, why would I show negativity? Beyond that, show me where I'm talking about non-black movies I don't like.

I'll help you out again: maybe you remember how much I hated THE VILLAGE. Oh, but then you would forget me saying I like your boy Night and pretty much all his other work. Because, then, that wouldn't fit into your narrow perception of what goes on on these boards. Maybe you recall me talking about how Robert Downey in blackface looks like a bad movie.

I don't know, maybe you don't dickride as much as you seem in this post. But if you did, then you would notice I don't talk much about ANY movies I don't like. I don't generally don't see them, so I don't talk about them.

But TP I talk about. For reasons I have spelled out. Reasons that are shared by others in the industry, as related in the article I linked.


>let's just deal with this first.

Yes, let's.

i ain't even interested in
>the rest of that bullshit you wrote.

I know, because you're not interested in a real discussion. You just want to spread your own negativity.

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Just take comfort in the fact that outside of PTP this argement will NEVER come up.

But here, there's a few posters that are seemingly such huge Tyler Perry fans that they think that anyone that isn't a Tyler Perry fan must be either pretentious or racist or ____. Apparently these same anti-TP folks fall to their knees and shake their fists at the Heavens whenever one of Tyler Perry's movies has a better opening-weekend sales than some other romantic comedy with a white cast.

My advice is, don't try. If you don't like Tyler Perry and really try to defend your opinion, chances are someone's going to come back saying that you're against black unity or something. Or that you're addicted to putting milk in your coffee.

I think I WILL take his advice and go back to The Lesson.

it was generic and predictable, but it still had some good laughs.

and i dunno how you think simon pegg is all the sudden at the bottom of the comedic actor ladder... shaun of the dead was funny, but got a little silly towards the end. but Hot Fuzz was one of the best and funniest movies i've seen in long, long time.

i'd just like to see simon pegg get back with nick frost for his next movie.

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