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344996, 80th Academy Award Nominees
Posted by genius.switch, Tue Jan-22-08 09:53 AM
I'm swiping Wikipeida, so I hope they have their shit together.

Best Picture
Atonement
Juno
Michael Clayton
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood

Best Original Screenplay
Diablo Cody - Juno
Nancy Oliver - Lars and the Real Girl
Tony Gilroy - Michael Clayton
Brad Bird, Jan Pinkava and Jim Capobianco - Ratatouille
Tamara Jenkins - The Savages

Best Adapted Screenplay
Atonement - Christopher Hampton
Away from Her - Sarah Polley
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly - Ronald Harwood
No Country for Old Men - Joel and Ethan Coen
There Will Be Blood - Paul Thomas Anderson

Best Animated Feature
Persepolis
Ratatouille
Surf's Up

Best Director
Paul Thomas Anderson - There Will Be Blood
Ethan Coen & Joel Coen - No Country for Old Men
Tony Gilroy - Michael Clayton
Jason Reitman - Juno
Julian Schnabel - The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

Best Actor
George Clooney - Michael Clayton
Daniel Day-Lewis - There Will Be Blood
Johnny Depp - Sweeney Todd
Tommy Lee Jones - In the Valley of Elah
Viggo Mortensen - Eastern Promises

Best Actress
Cate Blanchett - Elizabeth: The Golden Age
Julie Christie - Away from Her
Marion Cotillard - La vie en Rose
Laura Linney - Savages
Ellen Page - Juno

Best Supporting Actor
Casey Affleck - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Javier Bardem - No Country for Old Men
Philip Seymour Hoffman - Charlie Wilson's War
Hal Holbrook - Into the Wild
Tom Wilkinson - Michael Clayton

Best Supporting Actress
Cate Blanchett - I'm Not There
Ruby Dee - American Gangster
Saoirse Ronan - Atonement
Amy Ryan - Gone Baby Gone
Tilda Swinton - Michael Clayton

Best Cinematography
Roger Deakins - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Seamus McGarvey - Atonement
Janusz Kaminski - The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Roger Deakins - No Country for Old Men
Robert Elswit - There Will Be Blood

Best Art Direction
Arthur Max and Beth Rubino - American Gangster
Sarah Greenwood and Katie Spencer - Atonement
Dennis Gassner and Anna Pinnock - The Golden Compass
Dante Ferretti and Francesca Lo Schiavo - Sweeney Todd
Jack Fisk and Jim Erickson - There Will Be Blood

Best Costume Design
Albert Wolsky - Across the Universe
Jacqueline Durran - Atonement
Alexandra Byrne - Elizabeth: The Golden Age

Best Documentary Feature
No End in Sight
Operation Homecoming: Writing the Wartime Experience
Sicko
Taxi to the Dark Side
War/Dance

Best Documentary Short
Freeheld
La Corona
Salim Baba
Sari's Mother

Best Film Editing
Christopher Rouse - The Bourne Ultimatum
Juliette Welfling - The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Jay Cassidy - Into the Wild
Roderick Jaynes - No Country for Old Men
Dylan Tichenor - There Will Be Blood

Best Foreign Language Film
Beaufort (Israel)
The Counterfeiters (Austria)
Katyn (Poland)
Mongol (Kazakhstan)
12 (Russia)

Best Makeup
Didier Lavergne and Jan Archibald - La Vie en Rose
Rick Baker and Kazuhiro Tsuji - Norbit
Ve Neill and Martin Samuel - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End

Best Original Score
Dario Marianelli - Atonement
Alberto Iglesias - The Kite Runner
James Newton Howard - Michael Clayton
Michael Giacchino - Ratatouille
Marco Beltrami - 3:10 To Yuma

Best Song
Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova - Falling Slowly from Once
Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz - Happy Working Song from Enchanted
Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz - So Close from Enchanted
Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz - That's How You Know from Enchanted
Chris Trapper - This Time from August Rush

Best Animated Short
I Met the Walrus
Madame Tutli-Putli
Even Pigeons Go To Heaven
My Love
Peter and the Wolf

Best Live Action Short
At Night
The Substitute
The Mozart of Pickpockets
Tanghi Argentini
The Tonto Woman

Best Sound Mixing
Scott Millan, David Parker, and Kirk Francis - The Bourne Ultimatum
Skip Lievsay, Craig Berkey, Greg Orloff, and Peter Kurland - No Country for Old Men
Randy Thom, Michael Semanick, and Doc Kane - Ratatouille
Paul Massey, David Giammarco, and Jim Steube - 3:10 to Yuma
Kevin O'Connell, Greg P. Russell, and Peter J. Devlin - Transformers

Best Sound Editing
The Bourne Ultimatum
No Country for Old Men
Ratatouille
There Will Be Blood
Transformers

Best Visual Effects
The Golden Compass
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Transformers

EDIT: included some stuff initially absent.

Here's the AP list
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jTBLPS8iUeO9YnxMp4Ebi3dIzZtQD8UAVE2O0
344997, Before The Devil Knows You're Dead got no love...
Posted by rorschach, Tue Jan-22-08 09:58 AM
If it had grossed more, it would've been included.

And Juno and Michael Clayton did far better than I thought they would.

Another thing, why did Surf's Up get a nod for Best Animated Feature over The Simpsons and Beowulf?

EDIT: Josh Brolin got no love either. And I think Tommy Lee may have been better in No Country for Old Men.
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345002, I thought for sure Lumet was gonna make it in.
Posted by genius.switch, Tue Jan-22-08 10:09 AM
Especially over new-comers Reitman and Gilroy.

Not that I thought it would have been deserved, but the theory would go "he's old, he might not make it her again, throw him a bone."

I think PSH's nod for Charlie Wilson's War is, without saying it, to also include acknowledgement of his performance in Devil (and The Savages).

>If it had grossed more, it would've been included.

Well, though they came out at different times, The Diving Bell has grossed less than half of what Devil took in.

>EDIT: And I think Tommy Lee
>may have been better in No Country for Old Men.

The supporting actor category seemed locked for a while now, with Jones just on the outside. On the opposite side of things, there were two spots available in best actor. They got Jones in where they could. The same thing happened with DiCaprio last year.
345010, RE: I thought for sure Lumet was gonna make it in.
Posted by rorschach, Tue Jan-22-08 10:17 AM
>Especially over new-comers Reitman and Gilroy.
>
>Not that I thought it would have been deserved, but the theory
>would go "he's old, he might not make it her again, throw him
>a bone."

That's what I'm saying. They usually throw in an old nominee if their film is on that level. That being said, BTDKYD is one of Lumet's best and he should'nt have been snubbed.

>I think PSH's nod for Charlie Wilson's War is, without saying
>it, to also include acknowledgement of his performance in
>Devil (and The Savages).

PSH was a lock for a nod IMO. But I had absolutely no clue what film he'd get the nod for.

>Well, though they came out at different times, The Diving Bell
>has grossed less than half of what Devil took in.

But The Diving Bell has been talked about far more than Devil


>The supporting actor category seemed locked for a while now,
>with Jones just on the outside. On the opposite side of
>things, there were two spots available in best actor. They
>got Jones in where they could. The same thing happened with
>DiCaprio last year.


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344998, Michael Clayton!!!
Posted by bignick, Tue Jan-22-08 10:03 AM
345000, Is it really That good?
Posted by rorschach, Tue Jan-22-08 10:08 AM
I slept on that one for some reason.
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345009, no it's not THAT good
Posted by navajo joe, Tue Jan-22-08 10:17 AM
but it's a pretty damn good movie
345012, Yeah, I'll check it some time this week.
Posted by rorschach, Tue Jan-22-08 10:19 AM

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"Being the bigger man is overrated." -- Huey (The Boondocks)
345082, No.
Posted by Quick, Tue Jan-22-08 12:53 PM
And George Clooney wasn't that good in it.
I liked it, but this is a bit much.
345124, Yes
Posted by bignick, Tue Jan-22-08 02:26 PM
Understated. Quiet. And damn good.
345471, The opening monalogue from IS really That good.
Posted by jigga, Wed Jan-23-08 01:30 PM
The rest is pretty good as well.
345475, After that monologue, I was already convinced...
Posted by rorschach, Wed Jan-23-08 01:37 PM
You guys are right about Michael Clayton. I'm mad I slept on it for so long.
345001, not getting credit on that bitch hurts now more than ever
Posted by navajo joe, Tue Jan-22-08 10:09 AM
345003, And someone tell me how Bourne Ultimatum gets a Best FILM EDITING nod?
Posted by rorschach, Tue Jan-22-08 10:10 AM
every shot was about 2.5 seconds long.
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345011, editing isn't awarded based on shot length
Posted by navajo joe, Tue Jan-22-08 10:18 AM
345014, I know that but....
Posted by rorschach, Tue Jan-22-08 10:23 AM
The Bourne Ultimatum is almost epilepsy-inducing at times.
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345023, agreed. but it was very well-edited
Posted by navajo joe, Tue Jan-22-08 10:52 AM
to make sense out of what greengrass and co shot.

shit that sequence in London deserves to be taught in schools. that was amazing editing

and this is coming from someone who agrees with bordwell's criticisms of the cinematograhy
345476, I can't even front on the London sequence.
Posted by rorschach, Wed Jan-23-08 01:38 PM
>shit that sequence in London deserves to be taught in schools.
> that was amazing editing
>
>and this is coming from someone who agrees with bordwell's
>criticisms of the cinematograhy


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345030, Speaking of which, I forgot that "Roderick Jaynes" is the Coen brothers'
Posted by ZooTown74, Tue Jan-22-08 11:17 AM
pseudonym

Funny that they got a nomination there

Totally deserved and all, but still kinda funny

BTW, "Peter Andrews" has never been nominated for an Oscar

Peter Andrews is Steven Soderbergh's pseudonym
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345133, If they had won for Fargo, they would have sent up Albert Finney.
Posted by genius.switch, Tue Jan-22-08 02:49 PM
A heavily disguised Albert Finney, matching the fictional description the brothers gave to their Roderick Jaynes pseudonym.

However, apparently the Academy got wind of this plan, and were not too happy, so I have no idea if they'll try it again.
345005, SWEET BEADIE RUSSELL
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Jan-22-08 10:11 AM
I've actually seen 3 of the best pic nominees so far, which is the most I've seen in like three years. No Country deserves it IMO, but I'd like to see Atonement and Michael Clayton.

As far as the acting ones, I'd like to see Daniel day-Lewis, Javier Bardem and either Amy Ryan or Ruby Dee win. The only best actress nominee I've seen is Juno, and I know Ellen Paige has zero chance of winning.
345007, King of Kong isn't nominated for best documentary. bummer.
Posted by Tiger Woods, Tue Jan-22-08 10:14 AM
345062, Billy Mitchell strikes again
Posted by buckshot defunct, Tue Jan-22-08 12:06 PM


345008, So, biggest snubs: Into the Wild and Zodiac?
Posted by genius.switch, Tue Jan-22-08 10:16 AM
Zodiac, I was expecting (though I thought Vanderbilt would take Polley's spot in the adapated category).

But Into the Wild, especially with the Oscars consistently eating up the based-on-a-true-story type and all the previous recognition it's received, is an odd exclusion.

re: Emile Hirsch

This is the first year since the ceremony celebrating 2003 that features no non-fiction performance in best actor (the three previous winners and nine of the previous fifteen nominees had all been non-fiction role).
345479, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Posted by jigga, Wed Jan-23-08 01:58 PM
for best picture & Sunshine for best visual effects.
345013, The box office secured Juno's nods...
Posted by rorschach, Tue Jan-22-08 10:22 AM
If that movie flopped hard, I seriously doubt it would've been nominated for Best Picture, especially since the Academy loves to have at least one film that a lot of people recognize (Crash, The Departed, Little Miss Sunshine).

Juno won't win but it'll be everyone's dark horse.
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345015, Yup
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Jan-22-08 10:34 AM
It was a surprise hit and a crowd pleaser. They have to have something like that nominated. I'm not mad, though, I realy enjoyed it.
345018, RE: 80th Academy Award Nominees
Posted by delariean, Tue Jan-22-08 10:41 AM
I'm sad that Jamie Cullum's Grace is Gone was not nominated for best original song even though he didn't write the song....

Happy that Ruby Dee got her nomination....
345020, It was a strong year.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Jan-22-08 10:43 AM
Juno was great...but it's this years LMS - it will likely win Best Original Screenplay but not much else.

I'm REALLY hoping No Country takes it.
345022, best year for film since I don't know when
Posted by navajo joe, Tue Jan-22-08 10:50 AM
thank god for this strike though we'll return to our regular program of utterly terrible programming shortly
345024, Agreed
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Jan-22-08 10:52 AM
Strongest field in at least a couple years.
345039, I see last year as a stronger year but this year is great
Posted by dunk, Tue Jan-22-08 11:34 AM
2nd best one i've seen in the last couple of years only to last year's awards.
345059, And think of the great films that didn't get that much love.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Jan-22-08 12:01 PM
It was a very, very, very good year.
345027, 1. Right on, Ruby Dee...
Posted by ZooTown74, Tue Jan-22-08 11:00 AM
2. I'd take Atonement out of the Best Picture slot and replace it with Zodiac...

3. I STILL can't decide between No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood as my film of the year. I think, as of now, that No Country will win Best Picture. But there's still a month to go.

4. Right on to Tony Gilroy and Michael Clayton. Told y'all that was a good script (and the movie *is* THAT good).

5. Up until I started hearing about this Persepolis, I thought Ratatouille was a lock for Best Animated Feature. Now, I'm not so sure... I'll have to peep that Persepolis jawn...

6. I would have taken Atonement out of the Best Adapted Screenplay category and replaced it with The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. It's not that I hate Atonement or anything, I just think it's slightly overrated, and I just thought Jesse James was an underrated film (and I know jigga agrees)...

7. Right on to Tommy Lee Jones for In the Valley of Elah. I know that a lot of you slept on this movie, since it was written by PTP favorite P--- H-----, but it's actually a good film and his performance was stronger here than it was in No Country for Old Men, since he has to carry the movie more...

7. Should be a fun race to watch. I would like to be the one to, for the 3rd year, do our EW Oscar game, so I'll hit y'all when the details become available...
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345042, Looking forward to this
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Jan-22-08 11:37 AM

>7. Should be a fun race to watch. I would like to be the one
>to, for the 3rd year, do our EW Oscar game, so I'll hit y'all
>when the details become available...
345488, Yeah there's a thread that needs to be upped regarding Ruby
Posted by jigga, Wed Jan-23-08 02:27 PM
>2. I'd take Atonement out of the Best Picture slot and
>replace it with Zodiac...

Haven't seen Atonement yet but need to see Zodiac again. It's been so long since I've seen it. I remember liking most of it but thought it ran a little long towards the end & became repetitious.

>3. I STILL can't decide between No Country for Old Men and
>There Will Be Blood as my film of the year.

After seeing There Will Be Blood a 2nd time I think I gotta switch my choice back to The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. And hopefully when I see it again I wont feel the need to switch it back again.

I think, as of
>now, that No Country will win Best Picture. But there's still
>a month to go.

I wouldn't be too shocked if There Will Be Blood takes it or Atonement. Atonement just seems like an Oscar favorite.

>4. Right on to Tony Gilroy and Michael Clayton. Told y'all
>that was a good script (and the movie *is* THAT good).

This was certainly 1 of those movies that I liked more that it didn't try to hard to explain every little detail. I knew just enough of what I needed to know to let the actors do their thing.

>5. Up until I started hearing about this Persepolis, I thought
>Ratatouille was a lock for Best Animated Feature. Now, I'm
>not so sure... I'll have to peep that Persepolis jawn...

The only thing I have to add about animated features in general is that I just finally watched Shrek for the 1st time last night. I need to start paying more attention to these.

>6. I would have taken Atonement out of the Best Adapted
>Screenplay category and replaced it with The Assassination of
>Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. It's not that I hate
>Atonement or anything, I just think it's slightly overrated,
>and I just thought Jesse James was an underrated film (and I
>know jigga agrees)...

Indeed. I think it might be 1 of those films that gets appreciated more further down the road after its DVD release. It was 1 of those movies I had sorta high hopes for & then it still completely blew me away on every level.

>7. Right on to Tommy Lee Jones for In the Valley of Elah. I
>know that a lot of you slept on this movie, since it was
>written by PTP favorite P--- H-----, but it's actually a good
>film and his performance was stronger here than it was in No
>Country for Old Men, since he has to carry the movie more...

Yeah I slept on this one big time. After seeing Tommy in NCFOM & Brolin in that & American Gangster, it's certainly tops on my list once the DVD comes out.

>7. Should be a fun race to watch. I would like to be the one
>to, for the 3rd year, do our EW Oscar game, so I'll hit y'all
>when the details become available...

Cool. I'm game again.
345038, I have only two gripes with the Oscars this year
Posted by dunk, Tue Jan-22-08 11:32 AM
which is a lot less than usual.

1) Juno imo is getting too much love. I knew it would get the nominations it got but still. I see it as a good movie but not a GREAT movies like everything is saying.

2) The Diving Bell & The Butterfly and Persepolis got screwed over. Arguably two of the best films of last year as well of two of the best foriegn films of last year aren't in the Best Foreign Film Category. PErseplos got places in BEst Animated which is sort of insulting to that movie and the movie will probably get beat by the great but not as good Ratatouille.


other than this i'm content with the nominations this year.
345070, why is this insulting?
Posted by buckshot defunct, Tue Jan-22-08 12:19 PM
> PErseplos got places in BEst Animated
>which is sort of insulting to that movie and the movie will
>probably get beat by the great but not as good Ratatouille.

I do agree about Juno though.
345121, RE: why is this insulting?
Posted by dunk, Tue Jan-22-08 02:20 PM
I think it should be a best foreign film nominee instead. It's one of the best movies of last year imo and the one of the best of if not the best foreign film of last year.
345044, No Emile Hirsch??? DAMN@@!!!
Posted by Ceej, Tue Jan-22-08 11:38 AM
345060, Yeah, that one hurts a little, son brought the heat nm
Posted by ZooTown74, Tue Jan-22-08 12:05 PM
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345061, My 08 Whoo Ride proclamation for him is goin to shit
Posted by Ceej, Tue Jan-22-08 12:06 PM
345051, Cate Blanchett is nominated again for the same character?
Posted by RetroName, Tue Jan-22-08 11:46 AM
hmmmm
345054, Has anyone won best Actor(ess) and supporting the same year??
Posted by Ceej, Tue Jan-22-08 11:51 AM
345140, It's almost happened a couple times.
Posted by genius.switch, Tue Jan-22-08 02:56 PM
1938
Fay Bainter won best actress for Jezebel and was also nominated in the supporting category for White Banners.

1942
Teresa Wright won best supporting acress for Mrs. Miniver, while also being nominated in the lead category for The Pride of the Yankees.

1982
Jessica Lange won best supporting acress for Tootsie, while also being nominated in the lead category for Frances.

1993
Holly Hunter won best actress for The Piano and was also nominated in the supporting category for The Firm.

Doing a quick check, those were the closest cases I found.

I think that Blanchett was nominated in the lead category, the least expected of her two nominations, helps her in the supporting category. In that latter grouping, it's been a two-woman race between her and Amy Ryan all along. If people adapt the mindset of "I'll save my best actress vote for her supporting role since she has a stronger chance there", then she should be able to outpace Ryan. But it's all amateur speculation at this point.

EDIT: I only checked between actresses . . . don't know if the feat's been pulled off by a male actor before.
345055, "once" got snubbed
Posted by theprofessional, Tue Jan-22-08 11:54 AM
IMO, best soundtrack and best picture of the year nominee. at the least, it should have gotten a couple best song nods.
345058, Yeah, I would have swapped Once for Juno in Best Picture.
Posted by stylez dainty, Tue Jan-22-08 11:59 AM
345130, Oh, and a lot of the songs from Once weren't original.
Posted by stylez dainty, Tue Jan-22-08 02:43 PM
They were from an album the two had done previously. I don't know if that disqualifies them from Best Original Song, but if so, there you have it.
345128, I liked Juno... it was cute
Posted by Malachi_Constant, Tue Jan-22-08 02:39 PM
but it has no business being on the list for best picture. Nor does it deserve a best directing nod. Screenplay it deserves.

And Johnny Greenwood got robbed. His music was as strong a performance as Lewis' acting.
345129, Wow. Greenwood wasn't nominated?
Posted by stylez dainty, Tue Jan-22-08 02:41 PM
Missed that. Jeez. The only score anyone has even talked about this year, and nothing.
345132, Greenwood got dq'd at the last minute.
Posted by genius.switch, Tue Jan-22-08 02:46 PM
http://www.variety.com/blog/890000489/post/370020437.html

Monday, January 21, 2008
Jonny Greenwood's 'Blood' score disqualified by AMPAS
Jonny Greenwood's original score for "There Will Be Blood" has been ruled ineligible by the music branch of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

The news comes on the heels of last week's Best Foreign Language Film controversy, which left the two most critically acclaimed efforts of the year in that category out of contention (Romania's "4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days" and France's "Persepolis").

(Pete Hammond is also reporting on this over at The Envelope, but there is much more to the story, which has been fluttering in the wind throughout the weekend.)

The disqualification has been attributed to a designation within Rule 16 of the Academy's Special Rules for Music Awards (5d under "Eligibility"), which excludes "scores diluted by the use of tracked themes or other pre-existing music."

Greenwood's score contains roughly 35 minutes of original recordings and roughly 46 minutes of pre-existing work (including selections from the works of Arvo Pärt, as well as pieces in the public domain, such as Johannes Brahms' "Concerto in D Major"). Peripheral augmentation to the score included sporadic but minimal useage (15 minutes) of the artist's 2006 composition "Popcorn Superhet Receiver."

"Popcorn" is a 20-minute work commissioned by the BBC in 2005. The piece premiered at London's Queen Elizabeth Hall in November of 2006.

All musical inclusions were indicated on the score's cue sheet, of which the Academy has been in possession since early December. The organization had over a month to run over rules and eligibility, sending out reminder sheets to Academy voters that included Greenwood's score for consideration along the way.

Other scores that were deemed ineligible include "Enchanted" and "Into the Wild," from Alan Menken and Michael Brook respectively. Both were disqualified due to the "predominant use of songs." But sources say Paramount Vantage was alerted to the ineligibility of "Into the Wild" far in advance. The situation with "Blood," however, has come at the last minute, catching the studio entirely off guard.

Vantage was made aware of the Academy's "Blood" decision on January 19, seven days after balloting closed. Greenwood himself first received word via postal mail from the Academy at his home in London on January 17. Price Waterhouse has been instructed to discount all votes for Greenwood on Academy ballots.

According to the studio, the Academy's decision has also come, in part, due to a situation which arose with Nino Rota's score for "The Godfather" in 1972, which was pulled from the list of nominees after it was discovered that the film's love theme was used in another film, 1958's "Fortunella." The Academy would like to right a wrong now rather than withdraw a nomination further down the road. "The Godfather Part II" won the original score Oscar and featured the same love theme which rendered Rota's initial score ineligible.

Sources at the studio say that, though they are baffled by the surprising turn of events, they respect the Academy's decision. They only wish they had been advised of the situation in enough time to properly appeal it.

345141, Well at least there's method to the madness.
Posted by stylez dainty, Tue Jan-22-08 03:01 PM
345478, It's a shame....He probably would've won.
Posted by rorschach, Wed Jan-23-08 01:41 PM

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345153, FOH
Posted by UncleClimax, Tue Jan-22-08 03:45 PM

>
>And Johnny Greenwood got robbed. His music was as strong a
>performance as Lewis' acting.

shit was wack

u fuckin radiohead fanboys are something else
345232, I am not even some radiohead fanboy
Posted by Malachi_Constant, Tue Jan-22-08 07:22 PM
their latest and most of hail to the thief pretty much blow in my book. But that fucking score was amazing! I say again the music in that movie is like a fucking character. FOH with your uninformed knee jerk posts.
345474, dont see how its uninformed, seeing as ive seen the movie myself
Posted by UncleClimax, Wed Jan-23-08 01:35 PM
and found the score to be incredibly intrusive and off-key. but okay.

>their latest and most of hail to the thief pretty much blow
>in my book. But that fucking score was amazing! I say again
>the music in that movie is like a fucking character. FOH with
>your uninformed knee jerk posts.
345510, I guess I meant uninformed in calling me
Posted by Malachi_Constant, Wed Jan-23-08 03:52 PM
a radiohead fanboy when I don't think I've ever made a comment on the boards regarding the band. But that said I guess it really wasn't worth my snarky response. Thanks for letting it drop.
345513, but back to a discussion of the music
Posted by Malachi_Constant, Wed Jan-23-08 03:57 PM
I think what translated to me as incredibly intense and involved could easily come off to someone else as off-key and obtrusive. I guess I thought those qualities added to movie. Like the music was not supposed to be in the background in this movie. It's definitely unsettling, at times I wanted to cover my ears because it was so loud, but I thought it reflected and added to the unease we are supposed to feel with the story in general. I honestly don't know if I would have been able to sit thru many of the scenes without the music. Anderson always does a good job making the movie inseparable from the music.
345503, RE: I liked Juno... it was cute
Posted by Preach, Wed Jan-23-08 03:14 PM
yea that sucked that he didn't get a nod.
345176, oh, not again!
Posted by Nukkapedia, Tue Jan-22-08 04:57 PM
> Best Song
Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova - Falling Slowly from Once
***Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz - Happy Working Song from
>Enchanted
***Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz - So Close from Enchanted
***Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz - That's How You Know from Enchanted
Chris Trapper - This Time from August Rush

I think Once is gonna get this, b/c three nods for Enchanted might split the vote.
345193, Once should also win since it's the best song.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Jan-22-08 05:18 PM
On a side note, I'm surprised the closing credits song from Hairspray wasn't nominated. It was very good.
345240, Hairspray got snubbed. No art direction or costuming nods?
Posted by Nukkapedia, Tue Jan-22-08 07:47 PM
and I don't know how I feel about the song from "Once".
347006, Falling Slowly's eligibility is being looked into (swipes)
Posted by Sponge, Tue Jan-29-08 10:58 PM
In the Carpetbagger blog, someone in the comments section posts a trailer of a '06 Czech movie that supposedly used Falling Slowly. I don't know if that trailer is legit or if the song was used in the movie, too. I didn't read the any of the other comments so the answer might be there.

http://carpetbagger.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/26/song-getting-the-once-over/

By David Carr

Song Getting the “Once” Over

The original song category for the Oscars has already hit its share of clanky notes, what with none of Eddie Vedder’s breathtaking songs for “Into the Wild” making the cut. And now comes quiet word that “Falling Slowly,” the achingly pretty song from “Once” written by Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova, may be ruled ineligible. The Bagger has been making some calls and there are indications that that the song, which is up against three, count ‘em three, songs from “Enchanted” in addition to “Raise It Up” from “August Rush,” may have some problems with eligibility requirements. Post nominations, this tempest could set the teapot to boiling. (There is a lot of seemingly well-informed speculation in the comments, so give a click for more info.)

The relevant language from the Academy rules suggests: “An original song consists of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for the film.” (bold is theirs)

It is unclear how “Falling Slowly” may have run afoul of those rules, but the music branch of the Academy branch will be looking into the matter on Monday with a decision to follow soon after.

This is the time of year when mini-controversies, most of them cooked up by parties who finished out of the money, bubble up, so best wait until all the facts are in before commencing to freak out.

Oddly enough, the Bagger watched the movie again last night – you can hear the song here — and for the our money, there has never been a better movie depiction of the music that can occur between two people. “Once” has a small, but rabid pack of fans and it would be a bummer if the centerpiece song of the movie was not there for the Big Dance.

New bit: Greg Mitchell, the editor of Editor and Publisher and a guy who knows a lot about a lot, suggests in his blog Pressing Issues that “Falling Slowly” was out there for the listening before “Once” hit the screens. He writes:

Here’s the likely cause: The song, “Falling Slowly,” appeared on two albums before the movie came out — a big no-no for the Academy — but the question is, was it written for the movie specifically and then ended up on the CDs as the film made its slow way to release? It appears on two excellent 2007 CDs by the writer and male star in the film, Glen Hansard: One is from his band, The Frames, called The Cost, and the other is the duet album he made with his co-star in the flick, Marketa Iglova, The Swell Season. You can see The Frames do it via YouTube. He was definitely asked to write original songs for the movie (he wasn’t supposed to appear in it himself at first) but whether “Falling Slowly” was one of them, I don’t know for sure.


http://www.rte.ie/arts/2008/0128/once.html

Once song faces Oscar eligibility probe

Oscar officials are to meet to decide whether a song from the Irish film 'Once', which has been nominated for the Best Original Song Oscar, is eligible to win the award, according to reports.

Both the New York Times and the Irish Independent are reporting that the song 'Falling Slowly' has come under scrutiny by the Academy as it is unclear whether it was written specifically for the film, as the rules demand.

The song, which was written by Glen Hansard and Markéta Irglová, first appeared on 'The Swell Season', a 2006 album recorded by the pair.

It was then re-recorded for The Frames' last album 'The Cost', which was also released in 2006.

However, the song would have been filmed for 'Once' four months before it publicly appeared on any album.

'Once' was shot in Dublin in January 2006 over a 17-day period, while 'The Swell Season' was released in April 2006.


The rules for eligibility to the Oscars say that "an original song consists of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for the film".

The rules state: "The work must be the result of a creative interaction between the filmmaker(s) and the composer(s) or songwriter(s) who have been engaged to work directly on the film."

Speaking to the Irish Independent, the director of the film, John Carney, said that he had not had any contact from the Academy directly.

He said: "We're all discussing that at the moment to get clear, exactly, and figure this out."

Oscar officials are likely to discount the fact that the song featured on two albums before it was released as part of 'Once', and are expected to focus on whether the song was specifically written for the film.

Last November, Hansard gave an interview to a US film website saying that he had written the song for Carney.

Story from RTÉ Entertainment:
http://www.rte.ie/arts/2008/0128/once.html
345203, Anybody mention the "Norbit" nomination yet?
Posted by Mole, Tue Jan-22-08 05:28 PM
Yeah, it's for makeup, and it's Rick Baker ("American Werewolf in London," etc.), but this might be the first film I could see getting booed by the audience when that category comes up.
346205, i came here to say this
Posted by SammyJankis, Sat Jan-26-08 08:38 PM
345237, lemme just come out and say this... JUNO IS A JOKE!
Posted by Ice Kareem, Tue Jan-22-08 07:45 PM
and leaving the theatre i thought it was good.

clever, funny and not irritating in the least... but there were movies more clever and more funny than this, THIS YEAR.

i mean yea its a cute movie to see with ur gf, and i get that it was written by a hot stripper but still... Juno>AG???

dont make me laugh.

what bothers me most about it, is the big deal that all these women are making about its so good (chelsea lately,oprah,etc...) blablabla... and these simp niggas are jumping along for the ride.

the only person who shoulda been nominated from it, is michael cera... hes the fuckin man.
345265, Juno SHITS on Gangster
Posted by navajo joe, Tue Jan-22-08 09:04 PM
Scott made a lifeless biopic that hinged on a bored performance by Washington

poorly constructed and boring to know end.

it's a shame it got any awards attention at all.

juno shames it in terms of complexity, intelligence and craft

345485, meh
Posted by Ice Kareem, Wed Jan-23-08 02:12 PM
i dont think that deserves a response.

i like art too buddy, but we gotta draw the line somewhere.

the first scene of AG is >>>>>>>>>>> than all of juno
345748, ehh
Posted by Malachi_Constant, Thu Jan-24-08 12:55 PM
I guess it was intelligent, but I didn't find it all that complex. And I guess it was well crafted, but not in any way that made me think it deserved a directing nod. In fact I thought the storytelling here was fairly simplistic, in terms of its conflict and resolution. The place where the writing shines is the dialogue. But as Kevin Smith must know by now, witty dialogue does not an amazing movie make.
345279, Juno slipped in under the wire huh
Posted by SammyJankis, Tue Jan-22-08 09:30 PM
i thought it was a good movie i didn't expect it to get an oscar nod though. let along that many.
345524, Damn I haven't seen any of these movies
Posted by Solarus, Wed Jan-23-08 04:15 PM
except for No Country fo Old Men.
346049, THE 3RD (or is it 4th?) ANNUAL OKP PTP OSCAR PICKS GAME
Posted by ZooTown74, Fri Jan-25-08 04:03 PM
Alright, y'all, we're back up and running with the Oscar picks game that's run thru ABC

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And the password is

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So, as a reminder

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Good Luck, I'll have fun seeing who will come in 2nd behind me this year...
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346166, Ahem... I believe if you check the archives...
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Jan-26-08 03:07 PM
...I've gotten the most picks right two of the last three years.

But who knows? There's always room for an underdog to sneak in.
346169, ^^^ Living off of past glory
Posted by ZooTown74, Sat Jan-26-08 03:15 PM
It's a new year, yo

You goin' DOWN, Longo!
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Magnificent Trident
346174, in
Posted by Deebot, Sat Jan-26-08 03:53 PM
346164, RE: 80th Academy Award Nominees
Posted by noelleeeeeeee, Sat Jan-26-08 02:47 PM
No Keri Russell for Best Actress.

:(
352568, ^ for post #69, aka THE 3rd or 4th ANNUAL OSCAR PICKS JAWN
Posted by ZooTown74, Sun Feb-24-08 06:05 AM
(please note that this is different than the 1st Annual PTP Spilled Latte Awards)


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(and now, to steal a bit from the Jamie Foxx Foxxhole Radio show)

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^^^ TMI

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I'm gonna break down at fifty
And I'm not quite a stallion
I'm a good guy for a gal
And I'm mentally slipping
352584, I can't find the group on the website.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Feb-24-08 11:54 AM
Any recommendations on what to do?
352597, What did you type in the Group Directory search?
Posted by ZooTown74, Sun Feb-24-08 01:14 PM
I typed "okay" and the name (OkayPlayer2008) came up

And remember, the password is 'okayplayer'
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I'm gonna break down at fifty
And I'm not quite a stallion
I'm a good guy for a gal
And I'm mentally slipping
352601, Ahhh, I was typing in OKAYPLAYER2008 with no space. Whoops.
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Anyhow, now I'm in.
352603, Longodamus!
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I'm gonna break down at fifty
And I'm not quite a stallion
I'm a good guy for a gal
And I'm mentally slipping
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352602, it's OKAYPLAYER 2008 with a space between the name and #
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