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309347, That's some pretty lame excuse-making if I ever seen it.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-20-07 01:29 PM
>So to compare it to Oceans 11 or even Naked Gun isn't really
>that big of a knock.


Yes, it is.

The laziest defense of a movie, one that I get too often,
is the "you took it too seriously" bullshit. Its nothing more
than a way for someone to pardon the dumbass bullshit in a given
film. You point out dumb shit, and people say:

"Aw...man, you're focusing on the wrong stuff!
Its just a fun movie!"


*NEWSFLASH*

"Fun movie" does NOT = an excuse to have cliche, contrived
interactions, especially when the rest of the goddamn movie
is supposed to be somewhat realistic. Its not fucking Star
Wars.

It takes place in Boston, and shit, like, today or something.


Not Mars in 3011.

Just because 'The Departed' was funny does not mean its a
fucking slapstick comedy. It was a crime story, with some
funny dialogue and one liners.


It was not Oceans 11. It was not the Naked Gun.

Don't use that excuse to pardon the lame, sloppy storyline
and all the non-Decap boring characters.


>I mean all of these films can fit squarely into the category
>of 'fun crime flicks'.

Jesus Christ.

Just a way for you to pardon the dumb shit in 'The Departed'.

That's all it is.

You can use your dumbass excuse to pardon ANYTHING in ANY movie,
really. You can always say:

"C'mon! Stop nit-picking! Its just a movie!"


Bullshit.


If you can't admit that 'The Departed' was supposed to be
way, way, way, way, way, way, way, more serious than
Oceans 11 than you're just being a coward.



>And this is exactly what makes The Departed great. It's fun,
>the cast is great, and it's really fucking well made. There
>are some really stupid cop movie cliches in the film, but
>there's some fairly brilliant nuances tossed in there that set
>it apart from the herd.


What "nuances?"


The love interest thing, I would agree
>feels underdeveloped and a bit shoehorned. On the other hand,
>it contributes to the symmetry of the movie as well as its
>rampant sexual subtext.

What the fuck are you talking about?

"sexual subtext?"

Now I remember why I don't post in PTP. You guys love to
make yourselves feel smart with your over-analysis.

There was some drugs, and fucking in the movie.

Whoopdeedamndoo.

That has nothing to do with the love interest being irrelevant,
uninteresting, unnecessary, and bland.

Stop making excuses. She was boring, and her scenes sucked.



So I have trouble seeing it as a
>fault. I dunno, admittedly, I have such a good time watching
>this movie, I have trouble seeing any fault in it.

That's because you are good at making excuses and lying to your
self so that the movie has no flaws.

>The common denominator I see in what little criticism this
>movie gets is from people who were expecting some sort of
>"return to form" from Scorsese. Which it was, just not in the
>brooding, high-falutin' no plot havin' character study sense
>that some were wanting.


Uh. Not my criticism at all.


I put it in my DVD player, and watched the goddamn movie and
it wasn't that good.

That's actually my criticism, and that's the one you are
getting from most of the people who agree with me here.

I'm not artsy like that.

I just thought the fucking movie was bland.