207014, RE: Art can influence not change minds Posted by maternalbliss, Fri Aug-18-06 01:19 PM
>>>And isn't an influence a change in and of itself? >>No. Being that I am a metaphysician > >I'm sorry, I have to ask- what do metaphysicians do?
lol, We spend way too much time pondering abstract subject matter specifically the relationship between mind and matter. Yes, it is self-indulgent behavior.lol > >>I think changes occur >>first on an inner(unseen level) and then it is >reflected >> in the outer(physical) world. > >I was wondering when the 'art imitates life' card was gonna be >played, and this might be the closest we get. While I agree >with the sentiment here, I think the 'reflecting' goes both >ways. The inner affects the outer and vice versa. > >But I'd be interested to know where you think those unseen >inner changes come from. > >>Change that occurs the other way around is >>manipulation. Media manipulation of art is called popular > >>culture. > >Well, 'manipulation' is kind of a loaded word. And beyond that >I'm not sure what you're saying here. Do you feel that all pop >art is a form of propaganda? Yes, IMO all pop culture whether it is music, movies, literature, fashion etc. is propaganda designed for a specific audience. It does not make a difference whether it is a coporate conglomerate product or an underground project. I did not say it was all bad. All of it is designed to fit a neatly packaged worldview.
Do you see propoganda as art? Yes.
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