A while back I was watching The Family Stone (better than expected), and it kinda hit me that Sarah Jessica (that's what the cool people call her) seemed to be making a little big screen push. I know before Sex and the City she did other movies (word to LA Story), but with The Family Stone and the soon-to-be-released Failure To Launch (WTF @ Terry Bradshaw and Kathy Bates), she's making a real movie-star jump.

And essentially, she's taking Jennifer Aniston's roles: the occasionally-high-strung, good-hearted, stuck-in-a-peculiar-place, People-Magazine-still-thinks-is-hot-but-really-only-was-cute-a-decade-ago, appeals-to-the-chic-18-34-crowd-and-the-Desperate-Housewives-demographic romantic comedy roles.

For Jennifer, there was The Good Girl, and her career looked promising. But then came Bruce Almighty, then Along Came Polly, then the came-and-went Derailed and next a Kevin Costner movie that literally screamed "this is gonna suck but be devoured by old women." And though I don't have box office numbers or rottentomatoes in front of me, in a battle of 2005 family holiday releases between Rumor Has It and The Family Stone, I'd venture the latter came out on top.

Jennifer Aniston stays losing. And we don't even need to mention the whole other thing.

Y'all closet Friends fans placing your faith in Vince Vaughn vehicles?

As of now, SJP has three films inked but yet to be released, can she maintain whatever little wave she's riding?

And as a side question, who did Aniston take roles from before?

>A while back I was watching The Family Stone (better than
>expected), and it kinda hit me that Sarah Jessica (that's what
>the cool people call her) seemed to be making a little big
>screen push. I know before Sex and the City she did other
>movies (word to LA Story)

Word 2 State & Main mayne!

, but with The Family Stone and the
>soon-to-be-released Failure To Launch (WTF @ Terry Bradshaw
>and Kathy Bates), she's making a real movie-star jump.

Uh u mean Failure 2 Launch an audience right? That movie looks terrible. And I'm shocked they're releasing it so soon after Grandma's Boy

>As of now, SJP has three films inked but yet to be released,
>can she maintain whatever little wave she's riding?

Not a chance. I'd say the Family Stone's success (if there was any) could be attributed 2 the ensemble cast as a whole. Even if SJP was the lead actress, Rachel McAdams is the only female worth checking for in that movie. I mean Dermont Mulroney was the lead actor right? Whose checking 4 him?

>And as a side question, who did Aniston take roles from
>before?

Gwyneth Paltrow?

>>A while back I was watching The Family Stone (better than
>>expected), and it kinda hit me that Sarah Jessica (that's
>what
>>the cool people call her) seemed to be making a little big
>>screen push. I know before Sex and the City she did other
>>movies (word to LA Story)
>
>Word 2 State & Main mayne!

and word to Honeymoon in Vegas too.

>, but with The Family Stone and the
>>soon-to-be-released Failure To Launch (WTF @ Terry Bradshaw
>>and Kathy Bates), she's making a real movie-star jump.
>
>Uh u mean Failure 2 Launch an audience right? That movie looks
>terrible. And I'm shocked they're releasing it so soon after
>Grandma's Boy

Yeah, it looks awful. Matthew McConaughey is really fucking up his career like its a pipe and a set of bongos.

But I saw the trailer during the previews for Match Point and it got a decent enough reaction from that audience.

>>As of now, SJP has three films inked but yet to be released,
>>can she maintain whatever little wave she's riding?
>
>Not a chance. I'd say the Family Stone's success (if there was
>any) could be attributed 2 the ensemble cast as a whole. Even
>if SJP was the lead actress, Rachel McAdams is the only female
>worth checking for in that movie. I mean Dermont Mulroney was
>the lead actor right? Whose checking 4 him?

The Family Stone definitely increased my "interest" in Rachel McAdams, reminded me that Claire Danes is still alive, gave me hope for the Craig T Nelson comeback to come full force, proved that Diane Keaton is a legend, illustrated that deaf homosexuals are a rare breed of movie characters, but really did make me think positively of SJP. I thought most of the ads featured her prominently too.

IMDB says: off a 17mil budget it made 59 mil.

>>And as a side question, who did Aniston take roles from
>>before?
>
>Gwyneth Paltrow?

lol

>>>A while back I was watching The Family Stone (better than
>>>expected), and it kinda hit me that Sarah Jessica (that's
>>what
>>>the cool people call her) seemed to be making a little big
>>>screen push. I know before Sex and the City she did other
>>>movies (word to LA Story)
>>
>>Word 2 State & Main mayne!
>
>and word to Honeymoon in Vegas too.

Indeed. The comedic version of Indecent Proposal certainly gets some props.

>>, but with The Family Stone and the
>>>soon-to-be-released Failure To Launch (WTF @ Terry Bradshaw
>>>and Kathy Bates), she's making a real movie-star jump.
>>
>>Uh u mean Failure 2 Launch an audience right? That movie
>looks
>>terrible. And I'm shocked they're releasing it so soon after
>>Grandma's Boy
>
>Yeah, it looks awful. Matthew McConaughey is really fucking
>up his career like its a pipe and a set of bongos.

Seriously. I'd rather see a sequel 2 Reign of Fire

>But I saw the trailer during the previews for Match Point and
>it got a decent enough reaction from that audience.

Women(c)Def Leopard

>>>As of now, SJP has three films inked but yet to be
>released,
>>>can she maintain whatever little wave she's riding?
>>
>>Not a chance. I'd say the Family Stone's success (if there
>was
>>any) could be attributed 2 the ensemble cast as a whole.
>Even
>>if SJP was the lead actress, Rachel McAdams is the only
>female
>>worth checking for in that movie. I mean Dermont Mulroney
>was
>>the lead actor right? Whose checking 4 him?
>
>The Family Stone definitely increased my "interest" in Rachel
>McAdams,

Not sure when mine peaked but she's got it

reminded me that Claire Danes is still alive,

Now is that a good or a bad thing?

gave me
>hope for the Craig T Nelson comeback to come full force,

Back 2 his old Action Jackson days?

>proved that Diane Keaton is a legend,

W/o a doubt

illustrated that deaf
>homosexuals are a rare breed of movie characters,

Lemme guess. That must be the black guy who played the cocky CF in Mr. 3000 right?

>>>terrible. And I'm shocked they're releasing it so soon
>after
>>>Grandma's Boy

I forgot to ask, what's the connection to Grandma's Boy?

>>Yeah, it looks awful. Matthew McConaughey is really fucking
>>up his career like its a pipe and a set of bongos.
>
>Seriously. I'd rather see a sequel 2 Reign of Fire

or a prequel to The Wedding Planner?

>>But I saw the trailer during the previews for Match Point
>and
>>it got a decent enough reaction from that audience.
>
>Women(c)Def Leopard

but an artsy, first week Woody Allen film crowd, which was suprising.

>>The Family Stone definitely increased my "interest" in
>Rachel
>>McAdams,
>
>Not sure when mine peaked but she's got it

Notebook <--no shame

>reminded me that Claire Danes is still alive,
>
>Now is that a good or a bad thing?

She looked better when she was a minor.

Her body kinda reminds me of a frozen slab of putty.

> gave me
>>hope for the Craig T Nelson comeback to come full force,
>
>Back 2 his old Action Jackson days?

ha

Naw, I'm just waiting for the Coach reunion special.

> illustrated that deaf
>>homosexuals are a rare breed of movie characters,
>
>Lemme guess. That must be the black guy who played the cocky
>CF in Mr. 3000 right?

Haven't seen Mr. 3000, so I don't know.

http://deafwestbigriver.com/image/tg.jpg <--gay deaf guy
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0924552/ <--deaf guy's black boyfriend

10/7/05 Two for the Money Uni. $22,991,379
4/8/05 Sahara Par. $68,671,925
2/7/03 How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days Par. $105,813,000
7/12/02 Reign of Fire BV $43,061,982
5/24/02 13 Conversations About One Thing SPC $3,288,164
4/12/02 Frailty Lions $13,110,448
1/26/01 The Wedding Planner Sony $60,400,856
4/21/00 U-571 Uni. $77,122,415
3/26/99 EDtv Uni. $22,431,897
3/27/98 The Newton Boys Fox $10,452,012
12/10/97 Amistad DW $44,229,441
7/11/97 Contact WB $100,920,329
11/1/96 Larger Than Life MGM $8,315,693
9/27/96 Glory Daze 7Arts $15,134
7/26/96 A Time to Kill WB $108,766,007
6/21/96 Lone Star Sony $12,408,986

>10/7/05 Two for the Money Uni. $22,991,379

^^Wouldn't see it^^

>4/8/05 Sahara Par. $68,671,925

^^Didn't see it^^

>2/7/03 How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days Par. $105,813,000

^^Wait, 105 million? I don't know anyone that saw that.^^

>7/12/02 Reign of Fire BV $43,061,982

^^See Sahara^^

>5/24/02 13 Conversations About One Thing SPC $3,288,164

^^For some reason I only remember Alan Alda's character^^

>4/12/02 Frailty Lions $13,110,448

^^Never heard of it^^

>1/26/01 The Wedding Planner Sony $60,400,856

^^Jennifer Lopez as an Italian? GTFOH^^

>4/21/00 U-571 Uni. $77,122,415

^^I wanted to see this.^^

>3/26/99 EDtv Uni. $22,431,897

^^No Truman Show^^

>3/27/98 The Newton Boys Fox $10,452,012

^^Co-Starring Skeet Ulrich^^

>12/10/97 Amistad DW $44,229,441

^^Nuff repsect^^

>7/11/97 Contact WB $100,920,329

^^His character annoyed the shit out of me, more than Foster's dad even.^^

>11/1/96 Larger Than Life MGM $8,315,693

^^See Fraility Lions^^

>9/27/96 Glory Daze 7Arts $15,134

^^See Larger Than Life^^

>7/26/96 A Time to Kill WB $108,766,007

^^I'm glad they don't adapt John Grisham novels much anymore^^

>6/21/96 Lone Star Sony $12,408,986

^^He was cool enough, though not a strong part of the movie.^^


Why is he famous still? Nevermind, since People Magazine and Penelope Cruze could easily answer that, let me rephrase: why is he still making movies? He's gonna sabotage SJP's upward climb. :)

Everything else sucked.

Reign of Fire is surprisingly solid
Lone Star is great
13 Convos is good

But Frailty is the best of all of them.

>Reign of Fire is surprisingly solid

I really like EdTV

Matthew and Woody had good chemistry

>I forgot to ask, what's the connection to Grandma's Boy?

The only thing that I caught in the trailer was that he was still living w/ his mother

>>>Yeah, it looks awful. Matthew McConaughey is really
>fucking
>>>up his career like its a pipe and a set of bongos.
>>
>>Seriously. I'd rather see a sequel 2 Reign of Fire
>
>or a prequel to The Wedding Planner?

If the Wedding Planner (or the prequel) is anything like Monster-in-Law then I'll glady take my chances w/ Failure 2 Launch

>>>But I saw the trailer during the previews for Match Point
>>and
>>>it got a decent enough reaction from that audience.
>>
>>Women(c)Def Leopard
>
>but an artsy, first week Woody Allen film crowd, which was
>suprising.
>
>>>The Family Stone definitely increased my "interest" in
>>Rachel
>>>McAdams,
>>
>>Not sure when mine peaked but she's got it
>
>Notebook <--no shame

It was probably Red Eye for me. Which despite how bad it was, managed 2 still be pretty entertaing due 2 her presence along w/ Cillian Murphy playing a bad guy again

>>reminded me that Claire Danes is still alive,
>>
>>Now is that a good or a bad thing?
>
>She looked better when she was a minor.
>
>Her body kinda reminds me of a frozen slab of putty.

She's waiting 2 get cast as Olive Oil in the inevitable Popeye remake

>> gave me
>>>hope for the Craig T Nelson comeback to come full force,
>>
>>Back 2 his old Action Jackson days?
>
>ha
>
>Naw, I'm just waiting for the Coach reunion special.

Might be waiting 4 awhile. I know my Dad & I were pretty big fans of the show but was anyone else?

>> illustrated that deaf
>>>homosexuals are a rare breed of movie characters,
>>
>>Lemme guess. That must be the black guy who played the cocky
>>CF in Mr. 3000 right?
>
>Haven't seen Mr. 3000, so I don't know.
>
>http://deafwestbigriver.com/image/tg.jpg <--gay deaf guy
>http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0924552/ <--deaf guy's black
>boyfriend

Ok it's the boyfriend. I remember in the trailer they show him glancing out the window w/ Diane Keton's hand on his shoulder & he had an undoubtedly gay look on his face. Complete reversal from the last flick I had seen him in.

>>>>The Family Stone definitely increased my "interest" in
>>>Rachel
>>>>McAdams,
>>>
>>>Not sure when mine peaked but she's got it
>>
>>Notebook <--no shame
>
>It was probably Red Eye for me. Which despite how bad it was,
>managed 2 still be pretty entertaing due 2 her presence along
>w/ Cillian Murphy playing a bad guy again

That's the dude's name, Cillian Murphy? I never saw Red Eye, but he looks like he clubs small animals.

>>>reminded me that Claire Danes is still alive,
>>>
>>>Now is that a good or a bad thing?
>>
>>She looked better when she was a minor.
>>
>>Her body kinda reminds me of a frozen slab of putty.
>
>She's waiting 2 get cast as Olive Oil in the inevitable Popeye
>remake

Shit, I just got a mental image of Shelly Duvall in my head.

>>Naw, I'm just waiting for the Coach reunion special.
>
>Might be waiting 4 awhile. I know my Dad & I were pretty big
>fans of the show but was anyone else?

Before I knew Jay-Z, that show held me down a couple summers. Once Coach switched football teams, and the old redhead lady from Who's The Boss came in, it hurdled the shark. But I was being a little facetious about a reunion show, though I'm all for Jerry Van Dyke being quasi-famous again.

>It was probably Red Eye for me. Which despite how bad it was,
>managed 2 still be pretty entertaing due 2 her presence along
>w/ Cillian Murphy playing a bad guy again

I thought it was one of the better movies I saw last year. She was great in it, Cillian Murphy was a creepy psycho to a T, and the movie just had this drive to it and narrative economy that I found refreshing. It was just BOOM, get in, get out, we're done. I thought it was great...

>>It was probably Red Eye for me. Which despite how bad it
>was,
>>managed 2 still be pretty entertaing due 2 her presence
>along
>>w/ Cillian Murphy playing a bad guy again
>
>I thought it was one of the better movies I saw last year.
>She was great in it, Cillian Murphy was a creepy psycho to a
>T, and the movie just had this drive to it and narrative
>economy that I found refreshing. It was just BOOM, get in,
>get out, we're done. I thought it was great...

It started out great & even some of the scenes on the plane were great (tho sadly there were no snakes involved). The headbutt was nice. But there was 2 much shit that like that which happened on the plane that no other passenger seemed 2 notice. Pretty unrealistic. And once they got off the plane it became a run of the mill, cliched as hell, I dont know what type of movie, but 1 that I had seen a dozen times before. Brian Cox literally phoning in his performance didnt help matters either. I guess I just expected more from Wes Craven but I should've known better w/ the pg-13 rating.

and by that I mean, it was fine, literally nothing special and it served the purpose of keeping me entertained. It was pretty much paint-by-numbers.

miami rhapsody
viva las vegas
the other movie she did before satc

jennifer aniston picked up where she left off as plucky cute not almost could be sexy girlfriend.

I knew she's been around a while. Hell, before SATC was Square Pegs.

I knew she had some high profile romances (Robert Downey Jr & JFK Jr). So she's been in the spotlight before '98 of course, but with HBO she was launched into the superstar, uber-famous realm, same as Aniston was w/ friends.

But I have a feeling The Family Stone was her most commercially succesful film, and her most recent, big-time Hollywood picture (aka not State & Main).

>miami rhapsody
>viva las vegas
>the other movie she did before satc
>
>jennifer aniston picked up where she left off as plucky cute
>not almost could be sexy girlfriend.

So she's just reclaiming the thone?

she had a dry spell of a few years before she got SATC, you know... she was virtually washed up before HBO.

http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Answer/Archive2004/040724.html

A Giant Brain Meal Topped with Unsexy Sex Symbols

by Leslie Gornstein | July 24, 2004

What is up with people thinking Jennifer Aniston and Sarah Jessica Parker are beautiful? These women look like Mrs. Potato Head's two friends, and I am tired of seeing them on the covers of magazines.
-- Lisa Herrera, New York



Does simply saying they're beautiful make it true? Uh, yes.


A.B. Replies: Electrical power makes a light bulb glow. Right? Right. Well, power power makes hatchet-faced people light up like Disneyland.

"Beyond both women's wildly successful television shows, Jennifer and Sarah have become style and trend drivers," image coach Dianne M. Daniels tells this B!tch. "Everything--music, decor--was affected by Friends, and Sex and the City drove millions of dollars into new fashion styles and created a total attitude.

"These two women have created a level of power and influence for themselves that is nearly unprecedented in society today."

In other words, thanks to a savvy partnership with the right stylists at the right time--just as the Nielsens were exploding with joy over Friends--Jen Aniston's sway over the fashion world has swollen to Stalin-esque proportions.

She could wake up tomorrow, decide that her toenail clippings would make a great line of nose rings, shriek "Make it so!" at no one in particular and, within eight hours, the protein-based jewelry would be selling for $120 at Kitson. Well, maybe.

Having such control over the beauty scene often dazzles common civilians into thinking the moguls are as pretty as their clothes and hair. (Think I exaggerate? Four words for anyone who lived through 1976: A Star Is Born.)

"The attention that Jennifer and Sarah received, as a result of their shows becoming hits, made them seem attractive to us, since they are now rich and famous," muses stylist Linda Arroz. "Also, the characters they play are endearing, and we tend to think the actors are those characters."

One other factor worth mentioning: Go find a recent magazine cover featuring Jen or Sarah. Take a roll of duct tape and cover up the bottom halves of their faces. (This may take two or three rolls, so take your time.)

You're left with the eyes. Luminous, right? Okay, Jen's are kind of beady, but let's focus on Sarah. I mean, jeez, those death stars take up her whole face. If they were any bigger, they'd wrap clear around the sides of her head, like Uma Thurman's.

Definitely better than Failure to Launch.

SJP is garbage. Not good looking (and looks like the kid from Weird Science). Mccougnahey is a lock when it comes to rom-coms so if this tanks then her star will fall greatly.

I can't see her being a movie star. Not enough people seem to like her.

To be honest though, I don't really know many roles those two are getting. They are way down the list IMO.

>Definitely better than Failure to Launch.

I'm not riding for either, because in a battle with lackluster versus tripe, no one wins.

>SJP is garbage. Not good looking (and looks like the kid from
>Weird Science).

Anthony Michael Hall?

>I can't see her being a movie star. Not enough people seem to
>like her.

I'd disagree on this point.

She's got the fashion people in her crowd, which panders to the Enertainment Tonight / Access Hollywood set, which can give your films a push.

>To be honest though, I don't really know many roles those two
>are getting. They are way down the list IMO.

Who's on the list?

"I'm not riding for either, because in a battle with lackluster versus tripe, no one wins."

I think that Break Up will be good.

"Anthony Michael Hall?"

My bad. The kid from Real Genius.

"I'd disagree on this point."

I think her popularity is very much overrated. She has New York fashionistas but if she doesn't get Middle America or the South on her side then she's done. SJP will always be the somewhat stuck up girl whereas I think Jen can play bitch or the cool girl.

"Who's on the list?"

Jen and SJP are on the older end but I still think they are losing roles to the likes of Reece, Naomi Watts, etc. Even with romantic-comedies, you know that they get Kate Hudson's leftovers. I just don't see many execs seeing either of them as big box office draws right now.

>"I'm not riding for either, because in a battle with
>lackluster versus tripe, no one wins."
>
>I think that Break Up will be good.

I'm gonna hold you to this.

>"I'd disagree on this point."
>
>I think her popularity is very much overrated. She has New
>York fashionistas but if she doesn't get Middle America or the
>South on her side then she's done.

woah

She's not running for president.

I didn't know there were pollsters in Iowa clocking this shit.

Plus, you judge someone by the success of their last work. And though, as jigga pointed out, The Family Stone was an ensemble film, SJP headed that ensemble and it made 3x the budget.

I would be curious though to know the differences in people's movie-going habits based on geographic regions. (This is an idea me and AnaStezia kicked around a while ago here.)


>SJP will always be the
>somewhat stuck up girl whereas I think Jen can play bitch or
>the cool girl.

You see The Family Stone? She, through her character, made a nice transition away from that stuck up girl to someone a little more middle of the road.

Jennifer Aniston can play the bitch?

>"Who's on the list?"
>
>Jen and SJP are on the older end but I still think they are
>losing roles to the likes of Reece, Naomi Watts, etc. Even
>with romantic-comedies, you know that they get Kate Hudson's
>leftovers. I just don't see many execs seeing either of them
>as big box office draws right now.

Reese Witherspoon I'll give you, though I'm pretty sure that movie she did with Mark Ruffalo came and went quickly.

I thought Kate Hudson fell off post-pregnancy. (Failure to Launch just looks like a rehash of How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days.)

And has Naomi Watts even made the types of of movies Jennifer Aniston and SJP have been? I never saw The Divorce, but King Kong, The Ring, and 21 Grams don't make it seem to me like she's taking roles from either of them.

"I'm gonna hold you to this."

I'm going to hold you to riding for SJP.

"woah. She's not running for president."

You can't become a movie star without having most of America like you. If you are popular on the coasts you'll have a modest career. If you have the midwest and south you can have a career despite any lack of talent.

"Plus, you judge someone by the success of their last work."
So Jay Hernandez is a box office star becuse Hostel made 10x its budget? This kind of rationale is what gets Hollywood making three picture deals with Renny Harlin or Ben Affleck. SJP was in an ensemble comedy that did well. I wouldn't give her the benefit of any doubt right now.

"Reese Witherspoon I'll give you, though I'm pretty sure that movie she did with Mark Ruffalo came and went quickly."

Made over 90 million worldwide. She and Hudson have better foreign records than SJP.

"I thought Kate Hudson fell off post-pregnancy. (Failure to Launch just looks like a rehash of How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days.)"

So SJP is doing movies Hudson did years ago. Not a good look.

"And has Naomi Watts even made the types of of movies Jennifer Aniston and SJP have been?"

You think SJP wants to make Life Without Dick and Dudley Do Right? She wishes she had Watts' career. SJP made one film that did well, I wouldn't go crowning her queen of the box office. I think she has about as much box office clout as someone like Paul Walker. Very few people really go just because they are in the film.

>"I'm gonna hold you to this."
>
>I'm going to hold you to riding for SJP.

Dog, I'm not riding for SJP versus the field. It's just that I was encouraged by The Family Stone and see Jennifer Aniston, whom I originally stated SJP was taking the place off, falling off some.

>"woah. She's not running for president."
>
>You can't become a movie star without having most of America
>like you. If you are popular on the coasts you'll have a
>modest career. If you have the midwest and south you can have
>a career despite any lack of talent.

So they're throwing ticker tape parades for Kate Hudson in Cleveland?

I understand what you're saying as far as you can't have a decent portion of the movie going public detest you, but I think you're stretching it.

I'd be curious to see movie-going stats broken down by large urban cities and their relation to overall box office success.

Plus, what's a ticket in NY or LA cost compared to Bumblefuck, GA?

>"Plus, you judge someone by the success of their last work."
>So Jay Hernandez is a box office star becuse Hostel made 10x
>its budget? This kind of rationale is what gets Hollywood
>making three picture deals with Renny Harlin or Ben Affleck.
>SJP was in an ensemble comedy that did well. I wouldn't give
>her the benefit of any doubt right now.
>

Not exactly what I meant, don't be coy.

Was Hostel marketed as a starring Jay Hernandez? No? Then its initial success is not necessarily his success. I would say it's more the success of gore flicks, Tarantino, and Eli Roth, since they were the brands riding on it.

Juts like I wouldn't say homie who played the gay deaf son in The Family Stone was the reason it made 60 mil and that he should be given a star on the Walk of Fame. No, but Parker's performance was central, she got good billing, and reviews focused on her. I chalk up its success, in large part, to her, more so than any other actor in the film, with the slight exception of Diane Keaton, who has a strong 3 decade-long established familiarity with audiences.

>"Reese Witherspoon I'll give you, though I'm pretty sure that
>movie she did with Mark Ruffalo came and went quickly."
>
>Made over 90 million worldwide. She and Hudson have better
>foreign records than SJP.

She and Hudson have been starring in big name movies longer than SJP has. They're already established.

>"I thought Kate Hudson fell off post-pregnancy. (Failure to
>Launch just looks like a rehash of How to Lose a Guy in 10
>Days.)"
>
>So SJP is doing movies Hudson did years ago. Not a good
>look.

A. Hollywood is a bastion of creativity now?

B. No one said Failure to Launch is gonna be good. I criticized it in my first post and said it looks god awful elsewhere.

>"And has Naomi Watts even made the types of of movies Jennifer
>Aniston and SJP have been?"
>
>You think SJP wants to make Life Without Dick and Dudley Do
>Right? She wishes she had Watts' career.

When did those movies come out?

>SJP made one film
>that did well, I wouldn't go crowning her queen of the box
>office. I think she has about as much box office clout as
>someone like Paul Walker. Very few people really go just
>because they are in the film.

You're trying to read way too much into what I'm saying.

Aniston and Parker are both working and neither is doing significantly better than the other. SJP is in a movie with Terry Bradshaw. I think being in the new Frat Pack movie (which has a deep cast) is a little better blip on the career radar. Still neither of them are movie stars. They are still trying to catch and then get the real push.

SJP had one movie that performed well this century and you're putting her at the head of the line. Hell, Sarah Michelle Gellar is probably closer to getting a real push at stardom. SJP has Launch and the movie from the director of The Pacifier and Cheaper by the Dozen 2. That's it. The only other movie has a blurb saying that the cast and crew weren't paid because of a "financial glitch".

Also, this is SJP's second go-around at this. Aniston is still on her first run at stardom. SJP fizzled out awhile ago and made a comeback.

Is Virgina Madsen getting a movie star push because she's in Firewall after being in Sideways?

I just don't see the point of all of this. Do you hate Aniston? There are dozens of actresses that you could make this post about. Why SJP? Especially since you don't seem to have much faith in her.

>Aniston and Parker are both working and neither is doing
>significantly better than the other. SJP is in a movie with
>Terry Bradshaw. I think being in the new Frat Pack movie
>(which has a deep cast) is a little better blip on the career
>radar. Still neither of them are movie stars. They are still
>trying to catch and then get the real push.
>
>SJP had one movie that performed well this century and you're
>putting her at the head of the line. Hell, Sarah Michelle
>Gellar is probably closer to getting a real push at stardom.
>SJP has Launch and the movie from the director of The Pacifier
>and Cheaper by the Dozen 2. That's it. The only other movie
>has a blurb saying that the cast and crew weren't paid because
>of a "financial glitch".
>
>Also, this is SJP's second go-around at this. Aniston is
>still on her first run at stardom. SJP fizzled out awhile ago
>and made a comeback.
>
>Is Virgina Madsen getting a movie star push because she's in
>Firewall after being in Sideways?
>
>I just don't see the point of all of this. Do you hate
>Aniston? There are dozens of actresses that you could make
>this post about. Why SJP? Especially since you don't seem to
>have much faith in her.

my point?




Is Sarah Jessica Parker taking Jennifer Aniston's roles?


A while back I was watching The Family Stone (better than expected), and it kinda hit me that Sarah Jessica (that's what the cool people call her) seemed to be making a little big screen push. I know before Sex and the City she did other movies (word to LA Story), but with The Family Stone and the soon-to-be-released Failure To Launch (WTF @ Terry Bradshaw and Kathy Bates), she's making a real movie-star jump.

And essentially, she's taking Jennifer Aniston's roles: the occasionally-high-strung, good-hearted, stuck-in-a-peculiar-place, People-Magazine-still-thinks-is-hot-but-really-only-was-cute-a-decade-ago, appeals-to-the-chic-18-34-crowd-and-the-Desperate-Housewives-demographic romantic comedy roles.

For Jennifer, there was The Good Girl, and her career looked promising. But then came Bruce Almighty, then Along Came Polly, then the came-and-went Derailed and next a Kevin Costner movie that literally screamed "this is gonna suck but be devoured by old women." And though I don't have box office numbers or rottentomatoes in front of me, in a battle of 2005 family holiday releases between Rumor Has It and The Family Stone, I'd venture the latter came out on top.

Jennifer Aniston stays losing. And we don't even need to mention the whole other thing.

Y'all closet Friends fans placing your faith in Vince Vaughn vehicles?

As of now, SJP has three films inked but yet to be released, can she maintain whatever little wave she's riding?

And as a side question, who did Aniston take roles from before?

SJP isn't taking roles from nobody.

>My bad. The kid from Real Genius.

Wow, you are so on point with this it's scary. I never would have thought of that myself but now that you bring it up, they look like long lost brother and sister. Same expressions and everything.

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Kinda surprising actually.

SJP was hot in "Honeymoon in Vegas." She had the tan, the hair wasn't all fucked up, she wasn't a fashion icon so she had the young, up-and-coming thing going for her.
After that she got really pasty and scrawny and waved goodbye to hot forever.

"This brother is free, I'll be what I want to be."

and me in the 90's

>and me in the 90's

Are we talkin about Jennifer or Sarah? Jennifer still has her moments from time 2 time. I wish I gotta glimpse of her down @ Sundance. Would've been nice 2 see what she looks like in person & also see if she would've refunded my $ 4 Derailed.

SJP just doesnt do it 4 me.

i was talking about jessica. sarah i never found attractive at all

>i was talking about jessica.

Jennifer?

sarah i never found attractive
>at all

^^^20/20 vision

But yeah, Jennifer Aniston in 1995--thank God for reruns--is in my top ten all-time.

White people. <--No, wait, that would include me.

Corny white people. <--Nope, still me.

Corny white people who shop at Payless and buy Shania Twain records. <--Not me.

But like the man a couple posts above me said, there was a time in the early 90s, when she wasn't so bad. She was tan and more healthy looking. LA Story is proof of this; she was quite spunky there. And hell, she was good enough for JFK Jr, right? But now? Now I just think Matthew Broderick has a bestiality fetish.

Okay, facially, I agree she's horsey. But I loved her hair when it was all long and Botticelliesque, mainly in the earlier seasons. And for a thin little white chick, she's got a nice curvy figure.

And like you mentioned, I give her props for not getting a nose job to dehorseify herself.

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...and that's about it, as far as I can tell

She's not an attractive actress though.

the difference btwn these two women is that one has been hungry.

sjp grew up kinda... not wealthy.

aniston's family is new york rich.

okay, so when u come from money and decide to be an actress, if it works or if it doesn't, not too much is at stake.

if u've been poor and u've got passion and u starred in annie and said by golly, i'm gonna climb outta the gutter if i have to use this mole on my face as climbing device!, well, then...

u know how to have a big break, a lean period, another big break, another lean period.

and u learn along the way how to reinvent yourself. how to market yourself. maybe u're gonna be the geek. maybe u're gonna be the beauty. u're not too proud to be one and u know how to take the other with a grain of salt.

aniston has never had that quality.

>the difference btwn these two women is that one has been
>hungry.
>
>sjp grew up kinda... not wealthy.
>
>aniston's family is new york rich.
>
>okay, so when u come from money and decide to be an actress,
>if it works or if it doesn't, not too much is at stake.
>
>if u've been poor and u've got passion and u starred in annie
>and said by golly, i'm gonna climb outta the gutter if i have
>to use this mole on my face as climbing device!, well,
>then...

Not that SJP hasn't had any touching up or masking of her appearance, but back in Ferris Bueller TV days, Aniston looks like she was sporting a different nose than now. Somehow I'm gonna hold that against her. On ther other hand, Parker has done the whole ride or die thing w/ her looks, the nose and the mole.

>u know how to have a big break, a lean period, another big
>break, another lean period.
>
>and u learn along the way how to reinvent yourself. how to
>market yourself. maybe u're gonna be the geek. maybe u're
>gonna be the beauty. u're not too proud to be one and u know
>how to take the other with a grain of salt.
>
>aniston has never had that quality.

Damn, you broke that down with backstories and psychoanalysis. Well done, as usual.

And if we can talk about Sarah Jessica Parker the person and Jennifer Aniston the person, from whatever one can learn from TV interviews, Aniston is a bit dull and incommunicative, whereas SJP, at least from Letterman appearances, has a bit more sense of humor and is a decent story-teller.

yeah. aniston's not... interesting.

except that she sleepwalks. which is awesome.

So I could give a shit.

Jennifer may not be funny. But Vince and that great cast will carry the film. There's at least 5 funny people in that cast. At least.

See: Dodgeball, Wedding Crashers, Be Cool, Old School, Mr. & Mrs. Smith

I really like two of those movies because of him, and I like three of em. He's so good right now, that he's making films good all by himself. He's like Kobe.

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...is about all the good I have to say about Aniston.


Which is more than I can say about Sarah Jessica "Why the Long Face?" Parker.


And as far as who's taking who's roles, it don't make me no nevermind if it's J.LoSandyBullockJuliaRobertsReeseWitherspoonBlahBlahInterchangeableactressesscriptsblah, cuz I rarely purposefully consciously seek out those creepy frickin' crapfests cuz I have a hard enough time trying not to hate myself as it is.



Yeah...'Office Space' was cool, though.

>...is about all the good I have to say about Aniston.

And for whatever large hunks of dung may be thrown at TV sets showing Friends, she always impressed me more than caricatures Courney Cox or Lisa Kudrow did; she had some good scenes in there.

Even just thinking of her part in the movie now, I cringe at her saying " I love kung fu . . . totally." Her delivery--or maybe it was just the lines themselves--were awful.

>
>Which is more than I can say about Sarah Jessica "Why the Long
>Face?" Parker.
>
>
>And as far as who's taking who's roles, it don't make me no
>nevermind if it's
>J.LoSandyBullockJuliaRobertsReeseWitherspoonBlahBlahInterchangeableactressesscriptsblah,
>cuz I rarely purposefully consciously seek out those creepy
>frickin' crapfests cuz I have a hard enough time trying not to
>hate myself as it is.

Um, you might have anger issues.

And not that your rant was going for accuracy, but I'd argue with Julia Roberts and maybe even Reese Witherspoonn being in this exact mold.

>Yeah...'Office Space' was cool, though.

>And not that your rant was going for accuracy, but I'd argue
>with Julia Roberts and maybe even Reese Witherspoonn being in
>this exact mold.

Because Julia Roberts is the answer to your question of "Whose roles are they/Aniston taking?" Julia graduated from the rom-com level with Erin Brockovich and KateReeseJenniferSarahJLo have been battling for the scraps she left behind.

And I wish I'd seen this post earlier. We could've gotten into it.

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Reviews have been garbage.

i ask that not facetiously, but because i have no real frame of reference. and since you're the expert, can you put that in (objective) context?

the key is if it has legs or not. In terms of Mccounaghey films, it is what How to Lose a Guy in Ten Days made but that movie had legs and made over 100 million. It also compares to what Aniston's Along Came Polly made but that film crapped out at under 70 mill.

At the very least, it's a solid sign for SJP. A bad sign for Hollywood though is that while last year was a slump, this weekend (and the last few) haven't matched last year's upsetting box office take.

The past couple of years, the industry standard has become a 50% drop in the second weekend. Failure to Launch only fell around 35% which is pretty good.

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