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138307, Die Hard With a Vengence...G.A.M.O.A.T.?
Posted by housenegro, Sat Jan-07-06 04:15 PM
Greatest Action Movie of All Time? absolutely.

1) excellent story - was originally suppose 2 be a seperate movie altogether called Simon Says about a cop who pissed off some mystery man and has to go around NYC and defuse these bombs before they go off. so its really TWO movies in one.

2) Easily the three best action car (is that a term?) sequences in the past decade shot on film. When john mclane drives through the park, the whole dump truck in the tunnel scene, and the car shootout scene in the rain. classic shit.

3) the chemistry between jackson and willis was better than Gibson and Glover IMO.

4) the only downfall was the ending...it was weak.
138318, you're out of you're element donnie
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Jan-07-06 04:38 PM
138320, LOL
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jan-07-06 04:43 PM
138321, Its not even the second best Die Hard movie
Posted by cantball, Sat Jan-07-06 04:46 PM

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138352, Uh, yes it is.
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Jan-07-06 06:44 PM
Die Hard 2 has terrible supporting characters and a totally convoluted first act.

1>3>2
138415, 2 is awful
Posted by The_Orange_Ninja_Turtle, Sat Jan-07-06 11:07 PM
138572, Agreed
Posted by spenzalii, Sun Jan-08-06 03:54 PM
1 set the standard for years, 2 was a loss of form (much like Home Alone 2, the same shit happens to the same guy on the holiday? Come on!) 3 was much better put together, but with a lame ass ending

That and I swear they messed up the water jug puzzle...
138458, right... so if 1 is the best Die Hard movie....
Posted by HighVoltage, Sun Jan-08-06 02:29 AM
then how the fuck is Vengeance the GAMOAT or whatever the anagram thing is.
138326, I really want to see the network TV version
Posted by KangolLove, Sat Jan-07-06 05:01 PM
where Bruce Willis wore a sign that said "I Hate Everybody."
138463, please tell me you're joking.
Posted by shockzilla, Sun Jan-08-06 02:57 AM
139407, yippee kay yay mr. falcon!
Posted by HighVoltage, Tue Jan-10-06 02:14 PM
139454, miggy figgy>>>>>>mr. falcon!
Posted by jigga, Tue Jan-10-06 03:50 PM
138331, No
Posted by BISON CLASS of 97, Sat Jan-07-06 05:10 PM
138346, RE: Die Hard With a Vengence...G.A.M.O.A.T.?
Posted by rdhull, Sat Jan-07-06 06:17 PM
>Greatest Action Movie of All Time? absolutely.


Crap.

And Sam needed to stop yelling/screaming. I understand it was early 90's though.
138347, yall smokin' crack!
Posted by housenegro, Sat Jan-07-06 06:18 PM
how isn't this the best action movie ever made? seriously....
138349, no.
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jan-07-06 06:21 PM
138351, because it isn't better than:
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Jan-07-06 06:28 PM
die hard
hardboiled
the killer
predator
lethal weapon
extreme prejudice

i'd agree with you on your views of black women before i'd agree w/ your views on movie

kindly return to GD
138355, Nice list
Posted by Call It Anything, Sat Jan-07-06 06:52 PM

138365, very good list
Posted by housenegro, Sat Jan-07-06 07:37 PM
and coincidentally, most of those movies came out in the 80's, there hasn't been a really great action movie to come out since the 80's IMO (minus bad boys) but i personally believe DIE HARD 3 beat all of them.

a movie that grossed damn near 300 million overseas and 100 mil domestically can't be as whack as yall make it out to be...
138368, Die Hard 3 is a piece of shit and so is Bad Boys
Posted by BISON CLASS of 97, Sat Jan-07-06 07:57 PM
Terminator 2
Aliens
True Lies
The Predator
Hard Boiled
Total Recall
Die Hard 2
Die Hard

Are all superior to dh3 and bb in every way possible
138387, there's nothing wack about Die Hard 3
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Jan-07-06 09:00 PM
But you said, GAMOAT
not GAMOSTN (Greatest Action Movies since the 1990s)

and in that case Bad Boys 2 trumps it in terms of action set pieces (the car chase scene made Matrix Reloaded look like a good game of Rad Racer) but is, of course, not on the level in terms of story.

138520, there was very little special effects in DH3 though
Posted by housenegro, Sun Jan-08-06 12:36 PM
the only scenes that really used CGI was when they jumped off the boat and the water in the aquaduct scene...

but that car chase scene in the park, no fuck it, the whole segment of them in downtown manhattan trying to find that second bomb..the shootout scene in the rain out there on the interstate all was classic hollywood shit - no CGI...now, the car chase scene in BB2 was stuff of legends, but without CGI that shit aint happening.

and i'll give it to you, the last part of DH3 was shaky, and the alternate ending on the DVD was even WORSE. but I still think it was best despite that...its rare for an ACTION movie's storyline to actually damn near outweigh the action but I think DH3 did it very well.
139017, RE: there's nothing wack about Die Hard 3
Posted by jigga, Mon Jan-09-06 05:46 PM
>But you said, GAMOAT
>not GAMOSTN (Greatest Action Movies since the 1990s)
>
>and in that case Bad Boys 2 trumps it in terms of action set
>pieces (the car chase scene made Matrix Reloaded look like a
>good game of Rad Racer) but is, of course, not on the level in
>terms of story.

LOL @ Rad Racer. Least you didnt stoop 2 Pole Position or RC Pro Am.
138348, lethal weapon 1/2. terminator 2. die hard. true lies. the killer. hardboiled.
Posted by PlanetInfinite, Sat Jan-07-06 06:20 PM
die hard with a vengeance was dope but not doper than these.

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138353, Have you seen True Lies in the last decade?
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Jan-07-06 06:44 PM
138374, Dude -- I had a college Shakespeare where we watched True Lies
Posted by celery77, Sat Jan-07-06 08:25 PM
Okay, I'm lying, I was enrolled in the class but stopped attending about 2/3 of the way through because it wasn't very stimulating. I heard from my classmates that they were watching it even though I wasn't attending any more. As such, I have no fucking idea why they were watching True Lies in a college Shakespeare class (upper-division, too, mind you) because I wasn't there to hear the professor justify it.

Somewhat predictably, my choice to stop attending that class might end up getting between me and my degree in May (unexpected cancellation this semester). It turns out Schwarzenegger is out to get me no matter what I fucking do.
138468, ROFL
Posted by debo40oz, Sun Jan-08-06 03:00 AM
damn ock.
138534, Just for the Jamie Lee Curtis scene alone TL is the GOAT
Posted by kwez, Sun Jan-08-06 01:23 PM

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139022, Tia Carrere was/is hotter
Posted by jigga, Mon Jan-09-06 05:52 PM
Hell. Even young ass Eliza Dushku...umm...nevermind.
139307, She's hotter but she didn't have the hottest scene
Posted by kwez, Tue Jan-10-06 05:24 AM
138373, no. not even close.
Posted by bignick, Sat Jan-07-06 08:19 PM
138394, I wouldn't call it the G.A.M.O.A.T.
Posted by nipsey, Sat Jan-07-06 10:01 PM
I'd rank the following higher:

Die Hard 2
Die Hard 1
T2
Aliens
Speed
Lethal Weapon 2
Predator
EDIT: Total Recall "See you at the pahty Rickta!"

but it is truly underappreciated. I think once you hit "three" in any movie series, people expect a significant drop off in quality, but DH: With a Vengeance was still a quality flick. I like how it went back to Hans Gruber and how "Simon" used the same strategy of smoke and mirrors to hide his true endgame that Hans did.
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138416, I can't believe people think Die Hard 2 was better than Die Hard 3
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Jan-07-06 11:22 PM
138418, RE: I can't believe people think Die Hard 2 was better than Die Hard 3
Posted by nipsey, Sat Jan-07-06 11:28 PM
Yeah and I stand by my statement. I truly don't understand why people hate Die Hard 2. I thought it had some great action sequences and I had *no* problem following the plot.


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138419, plus die hard 2 has Franco Nero
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Jan-07-06 11:43 PM
oh, DJANGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
138446, It DID have great action sequences...
Posted by Ryan M, Sun Jan-08-06 01:20 AM
And I could follow the plot too, but it was still muddled in the 1st act, plus it's biggest downfall is the severe lack of well-written supporting characters, something it's counterparts have plenty of.
138465, because it's ridiculous.
Posted by shockzilla, Sun Jan-08-06 02:58 AM
die hard 2 is a terrible movie.
138476, co-sign
Posted by nbtnmwoltz, Sun Jan-08-06 04:07 AM
>Yeah and I stand by my statement. I truly don't understand
>why people hate Die Hard 2. I thought it had some great
>action sequences and I had *no* problem following the plot.
die hard 3 felt about 30 minutes too long....definitely my least liked of the trilogy.
138438, i spent too much time on here.. i knew what "G.A.M.O.A.T" meant...
Posted by jetblack, Sun Jan-08-06 01:14 AM
before i read the post.

smh.
138490, lol disturbing isnt it?
Posted by Rajeniro757, Sun Jan-08-06 09:32 AM
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139250, very. lol.
Posted by jetblack, Tue Jan-10-06 01:12 AM
139436, tbh, i thought it meant "Ghey Ass Movie Of All Time". that would be
Posted by poetx, Tue Jan-10-06 03:19 PM
Gymkata, though.


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139457, RE: tbh, i thought it meant "Ghey Ass Movie Of All Time". that would be
Posted by jigga, Tue Jan-10-06 03:53 PM
>Gymkata, though.

O_E would argue Alexander
138493, people need to stop the Ture Lies shit
Posted by Rajeniro757, Sun Jan-08-06 09:43 AM
Vengence was better then that joint.
Arnold and that fucking plane in the city? come on now dude could hardly get it off the ground now he's flying round cities with his girl on the nose.
Jamie Lee curtis become an agent just because she's married to one?
the Best scene in Ture Lies was the Truth syrum part which don't stand a chance with Mclane's drive through the park.
139247, it got one of my favorite lines ever
Posted by Menphyel7, Tue Jan-10-06 01:05 AM
"they bought it.........we can begin" whenever I do an album that will be the intro.
139331, y'all can hate all you want, Bad Boys II was the shit.
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jan-10-06 09:43 AM
139398, didn't have the chemistry of the 1st and overshot the mark
Posted by Rajeniro757, Tue Jan-10-06 01:51 PM
the whole Cuba race down a Hill of shacks that are randomly exploding.
The mine scene was hot but come on.
It had it's moments but it didn't top the first.
139565, i don't know about all that but i do know...
Posted by Esco, Tue Jan-10-06 07:06 PM
bruce willis = g.o.a.t.