Just got through my second viewing.

Definately a B-/B film and not a C-/C film as I had it rated before.

See, I's an open minded original man, god.

I can change my views of shit. I said I'd give it another chance, and yeah, it proved to be a bit better than my first viewing. Me no close-mind-o.


Maybe it was just the "Cruise Factor" as Big Reg or someone said...his presence tends to remove a star from movies off top. No hating, but he's just that annoying.


It still wasn't great though. It had that "inside job" hook to it, but it wasn't as good as 'Gattaca' in that regard....'Gattaca' had a more interesting hook and re-visited the broader philosophical implications better....in Gattaca, the crime was more about the bigger issue of nature/nuture....in 'Minority Report' the cause/effect issue all led up to the crime....yeah...let me phrase that better:


In 'Gattaca', the murder mystery fed the greater philosophical point.

In 'Minority Report' the philosophical point fed the murder mystery.


I think the former is doper and more important because the murder mystery was mastered half a century ago and we don't need no mo cute murder mysteries. What we might need is a murder mystery that says something interesting about humanity and the world.


That is why 'Gattaca' is A/A+ and 'Minority Report' B-/B.

'Minority Report' still had one of the great beginnings I've ever seen....what a fabulous beginning. The action was well sequenced....was paced fairly well...good acting outside of Tom Cruise...pretty cool concept...a nice, cool, clean "whodunnit" movie.


Oh, and 'Minority Report' still ain't shit compared to 'I Robot', so fuck y'all. And please...I'm trying to hear you rationalze a statement like "Will Smith played Will Smith and not the character in I, Robot'" yet won't say the same thing about Tom Cruise in 'Minority Report'. 'Minority Report' protagonist was the same muffucka, exactly, that was in Mission:Impossible. Hell, same dude as Jerry Mcgwire for that matter. Like I said, that Will Smith criticism is just racism/haterism.

But let's stay on topic and shit. 'Minority Report' was on some decent shit, god.



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specially bout Gattaca.
just a perfect film really.

V.

and I like Cruise for some reason, maybe my fetishizing of Top Gun as a 5 year-old had something to do with it

it was a cool summer sci-fi movie

no, it wasn't *that* deep or anything but it was entertainingly "intelligent"

V.

Charles Krazy Horse Bennett

most entertaining sideshow in MMA

I call him Genki without the talent

because he has great natural talent

he admits to not giving a fuck about training, which is why he gets submitted nearly ever time the fight goes the ground

that line about him saying he was training in Brazil so his opponents would think he's a jiu-jitsu master was funny though

>Oh, and 'Minority Report' still ain't shit compared to 'I
>Robot', so fuck y'all. And please...I'm trying to hear you
>rationalze a statement like "Will Smith played Will Smith and
>not the character in I, Robot'" yet won't say the same thing
>about Tom Cruise in 'Minority Report'. 'Minority Report'
>protagonist was the same muffucka, exactly, that was in
>Mission:Impossible. Hell, same dude as Jerry Mcgwire for that
>matter. Like I said, that Will Smith criticism is just
>racism/haterism.

so 'i. robot' is an A then?
my criticism of the movie really has nothing to do with will smith. i think visually its a movie of its time. as in, i don't think in the long run it will stand the test of time.
i loved the story and concept of the movie definitely. i don't however think it got even close to its potential as a final product.
and speaking of product, the amount of in your face 'lets just put this on screen for no reason' product placement really got too much after awhile.

>
>But let's stay on topic and shit. 'Minority Report' was on
>some decent shit, god.
>

ah huh. one of the few speilberg movies i have enjoyed from start to finish and also given two shits about what happened in the end.
n i don't care what anyone says. i enjoy the cruiser as an actor. i don't really understand the hate and where it started but i think consistently he does entertaining movies that i am more than happy to shell out some cash and go see.

minority report was damn good

*shrugs*

I REALLY dug Minority Report. Some odd decisions made in there... seemed a bit more like Kubrick than Spielberg at times. Still, highly enjoyable with a great beginning, great action throughout, fantastic cinematography, and a decent surprise ending.

funny, but still strange.

V.

Because it seemed to be completely stupid. Maybe it's just over my head.

-Why does the old lady have evil Little Shop of Horrors plants?
-How can Tom Cruise drive a car right out off the assembly line and onto the freeway?
-Why the hell does he need to cut his eyes out again? Especially when he uses those very same eyes to open the door to his office.
-Why is everybody (old lady, Tim Blake Nelson, Skarsgaard, etc.) mugging like it is an SNL sketch?

I'd love to hear some satisfactory answers to these questions, but I maintain they do not exist.

This is one of the worst films I've ever seen (with a very, very good opening sequence).

>Because it seemed to be completely stupid. Maybe it's just
>over my head.
>
>-Why does the old lady have evil Little Shop of Horrors
>plants?

She's a herbologist in the future. Those fighting plants she grew were a security system to keep intruders out.

>-How can Tom Cruise drive a car right out off the assembly
>line and onto the freeway?

This is an interesting question. Maybe that's how efficient we will become in the future.

>-Why the hell does he need to cut his eyes out again?
>Especially when he uses those very same eyes to open the door
>to his office.

Because eye IDs are checked literally EVERYWHERE he can go. If he has those eyes, the cops will find him before he even gets a chance to sneak into the place.

>-Why is everybody (old lady, Tim Blake Nelson, Skarsgaard,
>etc.) mugging like it is an SNL sketch?

This is what made it feel like a Stanley Kubrick film to me...the eccentric characters in scenes that are tangential to the plot.

>This is what made it feel like a Stanley Kubrick film to
>me...the eccentric characters in scenes that are tangential to
>the plot.

No, this movie just lacked continuity. This was nothing like a good Kubrick movie. A lot of it was just pretty stupid and unecessary and flashy.

Okay, you guys are making me hate this movie again.

Fuck.



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Because they did lack continuity, were unnecessary and flashy.

>
>>This is what made it feel like a Stanley Kubrick film to
>>me...the eccentric characters in scenes that are tangential
>to
>>the plot.
>
>No, this movie just lacked continuity. This was nothing like a
>good Kubrick movie. A lot of it was just pretty stupid and
>unecessary and flashy.
>
>Okay, you guys are making me hate this movie again.
>
>Fuck.
>
>
>
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>
>"Any fighter that I face, I say prayers for them every night
>and that he and I live to fight another day."
>
>(C) Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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>This is an interesting question. Maybe that's how efficient we
>will become in the future.

Making cars easier to steal = efficiency? Face it, that was just the moronic climax to the worst action sequence in any of Spielberg's films. Colin Ferrel (sp?) pumping his fist in frustration as Cruise pops out from under the seat somehow and drives right out of the factory is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

>Because eye IDs are checked literally EVERYWHERE he can go. If
>he has those eyes, the cops will find him before he even gets
>a chance to sneak into the place.

If they check eye IDs EVERYWHERE, why the hell wouldn't they check eye IDs at his office?

>>-Why is everybody (old lady, Tim Blake Nelson, Skarsgaard,
>>etc.) mugging like it is an SNL sketch?
>
>This is what made it feel like a Stanley Kubrick film to
>me...the eccentric characters in scenes that are tangential to
>the plot.

The grotesque, exaggerated characters in, say, Clockwork have a purpose. They are how Alex sees adults of the world and help him (and the audience) justify his violence towards them. Tom Cruise does not see the world in such a way. Instead he just seems surrounded by ridiculous people.

>If they check eye IDs EVERYWHERE, why the hell wouldn't they
>check eye IDs at his office?
>

Um...they do. That's why he kept the eyes.

>>If they check eye IDs EVERYWHERE, why the hell wouldn't they
>>check eye IDs at his office?
>>
>Um...they do. That's why he kept the eyes.

But why wouldn't the cops get an alarm saying, "Scientologist entering office," when he used his own eyes to enter?

They were so preoccupied with him running, that they didn't register the office alarms...they didn't assume he would come back to his actual office at the department of precrime.

They were concentrated on scoping out the city and searching in public places. The last place they'd thought he'd go is back in the belly of the beast. When they figured that out, he was already in that piece.

One of those obvious guy slip ups that even happen in the future. I could see that happening.



If they check eye IDs EVERYWHERE, why the hell wouldn't
>they
>>>check eye IDs at his office?
>>>
>>Um...they do. That's why he kept the eyes.
>
>But why wouldn't the cops get an alarm saying, "Scientologist
>entering office," when he used his own eyes to enter?
>


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And the whole eye episode was pointless and annoying. The idea of retina scans in retail stores is cool. Just have a two minute scene of Cruise buying some special contacts from a (restrained) Skarsgaard and get on with the story.

Instead we have Cruise chasing his eyeballs down some stairs.

And, of course, I haven't even touched on the ending.

....contacts wouldn't work, nor would replacing the retina specifically, because it was tried once and the current alarms are sensitive to the presence of scar tissue on the retina. That is why an entire eye exchange was necessary.

As far as the cops being stupid, well, hindsight is 20/20. Sometimes common sense ain't so common - If you see a dude sprint off and run, it makes sense to assume that he'll try and run. In the heat of the moment, its hard to think of why he would come back right away.

In fact, they did figure out that he'd come back...so they weren't that stupid, they just figured out a bit too late. Dude was already in the room with the precog shorty.

>And the whole eye episode was pointless and annoying. The
>idea of retina scans in retail stores is cool. Just have a two
>minute scene of Cruise buying some special contacts from a
>(restrained) Skarsgaard and get on with the story.
>
>Instead we have Cruise chasing his eyeballs down some stairs.
>
>
>And, of course, I haven't even touched on the ending.


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that's a pretty believable slip up

>-Why does the old lady have evil Little Shop of Horrors
>plants?

She's a famous geneticist, probably retired. She engineers really bugged out plants for kicks. The wild plants are just to show that she's a badass scientist.

>-How can Tom Cruise drive a car right out off the assembly
>line and onto the freeway?

Dunno.

>-Why the hell does he need to cut his eyes out again?
>Especially when he uses those very same eyes to open the door
>to his office.

The society identifies individuals through the retinal pattern. By changing his eyes, he's able to go undetected. He does need his original eyes to access certain things at the dept of pre-crime.


>-Why is everybody (old lady, Tim Blake Nelson, Skarsgaard,
>etc.) mugging like it is an SNL sketch?

Yeah, that was stupid.

>This is one of the worst films I've ever seen (with a very,
>very good opening sequence).

See....this is exactly how I felt before the second viewing, and your post is starting to make me think I'm being too nice, because there really was a lot of dumb shit in this movie.

I'm sure I'll like it more if I see it again because I thought the movie sucked (I was expecting a great film). Still, it won't be a good movie, it will just be better than my expectations.

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>She's a famous geneticist, probably retired. She engineers
>really bugged out plants for kicks. The wild plants are just
>to show that she's a badass scientist.

They are silly. Spielberg spent all this time and money with engineers and designers to try and depict what the future would "really be like" (and in some cases, like the mall, did a convincing job), but then he includes stuff like these plants that would feel cartoonish even in an X-Men movie.


>>This is one of the worst films I've ever seen (with a very,
>>very good opening sequence).
>
>See....this is exactly how I felt before the second viewing,
>and your post is starting to make me think I'm being too nice,
>because there really was a lot of dumb shit in this movie.

Eh, it's not really the worst film I've ever seen. But the sense of betrayel is greater because I know Spielberg is capable of making a much better film out of this same scenario.

>-Why does the old lady have evil Little Shop of Horrors
>plants?
She's a geneticist, it's entertaining.

>-How can Tom Cruise drive a car right out off the assembly
>line and onto the freeway?
I guess they don't build assembly lines on remote islands on which cars can't escape like they do now. And who cares? These cars apparently don't run on fossil feuls, how is it implausible?

>-Why the hell does he need to cut his eyes out again?
>Especially when he uses those very same eyes to open the door
>to his office.
been answered and it's cool.

>-Why is everybody (old lady, Tim Blake Nelson, Skarsgaard,
>etc.) mugging like it is an SNL sketch?
>
Why not?

>>-Why does the old lady have evil Little Shop of Horrors
>>plants?
>She's a geneticist, it's entertaining.

A matter of taste, I guess. But it sends the film straight to Hook-level fantasty land.

>>-How can Tom Cruise drive a car right out off the assembly
>>line and onto the freeway?
>I guess they don't build assembly lines on remote islands on
>which cars can't escape like they do now. And who cares? These
>cars apparently don't run on fossil feuls, how is it
>implausible?

It's implausible because there is no good reason for it to be possible. This is lazy writing defended by "it's the future, things are different."

>>-Why the hell does he need to cut his eyes out again?
>>Especially when he uses those very same eyes to open the
>door
>>to his office.
>been answered and it's cool.

It still makes zero sense to me.


>Why not?

Because it is fucking annoying. Like Robin Williams in AI.

and all security just got left in the dust by him it's not all that hard to swallow.

And roll straight onto a public road from the conveyor belt.

I, robot and minority report were both decent movies.

thanks for informing the general populace.



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However, I've never really compared the two movies the way you have. They've always been independent of each other in my mind.

To me, Minority Report is a cool stylistic, futuristic, cop/crime, mystery who done it, with some very nice visuals and art design that raises questions about a flawed legal system.

Gattaca is about human nature and the human spirit. It's about who we are, who we want to be, and how the world (or environment)
we live in can either facilitate, discourage, or prevent entirely our personal success. Vincent transcends his plight because regardless of
the way the world sees him, he still believes in himself. But with Jerome, he has or rather had it all, but was lacking that spirit/desire which comes from somewhere on the inside and is imeasurable. All the crime stuff in Gattaca for me, is there to provide a framework and help bring out the human story.

Yeah, I remember your username is inspired by 'Gattaca'

Very good points.

I compared the two movies because they both take place in the future, are both based around interesting philosophical concepts and both feature "inside job"/superior who dunnit murder mysteries.

I think you broke down the differences quite well.

And good luck in school(I remember that from another gattaca post)

>However, I've never really compared the two movies the way
>you have. They've always been independent of each other in my
>mind.
>
>To me, Minority Report is a cool stylistic, futuristic,
>cop/crime, mystery who done it, with some very nice visuals
>and art design that raises questions about a flawed legal
>system.
>
>Gattaca is about human nature and the human spirit. It's about
>who we are, who we want to be, and how the world (or
>environment)
>we live in can either facilitate, discourage, or prevent
>entirely our personal success. Vincent transcends his plight
>because regardless of
>the way the world sees him, he still believes in himself. But
>with Jerome, he has or rather had it all, but was lacking that
>spirit/desire which comes from somewhere on the inside and is
>imeasurable. All the crime stuff in Gattaca for me, is there
>to provide a framework and help bring out the human story.
>


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... was what did the movie in for me. So you have the mother, a poor, rundown, cast-off of society who might potentially be a problem because her daughter is the seer or whatever. Fine. But why the fuck would you murder her, when murder is the one crime they look in the future for? Why not just dope her up, or lock her away, or give her some kind of fucked up brain surgery, or something like that? Why the fuck would you commit the ONE crime they're going to see? And if you're the most powerful man in the city who can pull mad strings in relation to all kinds of things, why the fuck would you commit the murder yourself? You can't get some degenerate druggy to do it for you? That's the only way you can think of doing it?

So yeah, the beginning was all right, but as the mystery started unfolding I was just hating this movie. I am a little predisposed to shit on Spielberg movies, though -- I'll admit to that. I expect a lot more from my sci-fi than this, though.

Thanks, you jerk. Lol.

Nah, all valid points.

They way that he carried that out was sort of retarded.



>... was what did the movie in for me. So you have the
>mother, a poor, rundown, cast-off of society who might
>potentially be a problem because her daughter is the seer or
>whatever. Fine. But why the fuck would you murder her, when
>murder is the one crime they look in the future for? Why not
>just dope her up, or lock her away, or give her some kind of
>fucked up brain surgery, or something like that? Why the fuck
>would you commit the ONE crime they're going to see? And if
>you're the most powerful man in the city who can pull mad
>strings in relation to all kinds of things, why the fuck would
>you commit the murder yourself? You can't get some degenerate
>druggy to do it for you? That's the only way you can think of
>doing it?
>
>So yeah, the beginning was all right, but as the mystery
>started unfolding I was just hating this movie. I am a little
>predisposed to shit on Spielberg movies, though -- I'll admit
>to that. I expect a lot more from my sci-fi than this,
>though.


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he knew how to control the system, and since that system was widely considered flawless, he figured that was the perfect way to do it.

any movie with Colin Ferrell get down graded a few points



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>any movie with Colin Ferrell get down graded a few points

Even tho he was excellent in the movie?

In fact, Ferrel was the best thing about that movie in terms of pure actors. His character actually made some of the action exciting. I wish he had figured more into the conclusion...the way he got popped off was kinda lame to me, but whatever.

Everyone else was sort of meh.



>>any movie with Colin Ferrell get down graded a few points
>
>Even tho he was excellent in the movie?

My Colin Farrell hate is just that strong



Siena Blaze

So I understand.

Its wild because I hated 'Alexander' so much, I actuallly didn't recognzie Colin Ferrel because his acting was so good in 'Minority Report'. I was literally like "that ain't Colin Ferrell."


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>
>So I understand.
>
>Its wild because I hated 'Alexander' so much, I actuallly
>didn't recognzie Colin Ferrel because his acting was so good
>in 'Minority Report'. I was literally like "that ain't Colin
>Ferrell."

Gotta be careful w/ Colin Farrell flicks. After Minority Report I thought he was on his way 2 being 1 of the best young actors in the biz. I went back & watched Tigerland & was even more convinced. But 2 this day it's still his best performance which is upseting considering the potential he's shown.

I thought he was great in Hart's War which is a pretty underated flick. Terrance Howard fans should certainly check it out. American Outlaws & Phone Booth are watchable tho his accent is terrible in the latter which was shocking condsidering how convincing his accent was in Tigerland.

I enjoyed The Recruit & thought he did a pretty good job in it alongside Pacino. Also did a good job w/ the material he had 2 work w/ in Daredevil. 1 of the more entertaining on screen comic book villians just not enough screen time. Nice cameo in Veronica Guerin. Should've taken on a larger part however insteada signing on 4 Alexander but hindsite is 20/20. SWAT was forgettable but he was excellent in his next 2 flicks Intermission & Home @ the End of the World. Only 2 follow that up w/ Alexander. Inconsistent as hell but when he's good he's still 1 of the better young actors working 2day. Not sure why he's so hated other than the rep for boozing & womanizing which I have no problem w/ since he's so honest about it. I havent written him off yet.

I have no doubt he's a talented actor.

Its just that because 'Alexander' is the cause of global warming, I can't forgive anyone who had anything to do with that film very easily. It hurt the human species and caused me personal grief. Yes it did.



>Gotta be careful w/ Colin Farrell flicks. After Minority
>Report I thought he was on his way 2 being 1 of the best young
>actors in the biz. I went back & watched Tigerland & was even
>more convinced. But 2 this day it's still his best performance
>which is upseting considering the potential he's shown.
>
>I thought he was great in Hart's War which is a pretty
>underated flick. Terrance Howard fans should certainly check
>it out. American Outlaws & Phone Booth are watchable tho his
>accent is terrible in the latter which was shocking
>condsidering how convincing his accent was in Tigerland.
>
>I enjoyed The Recruit & thought he did a pretty good job in it
>alongside Pacino. Also did a good job w/ the material he had 2
>work w/ in Daredevil. 1 of the more entertaining on screen
>comic book villians just not enough screen time. Nice cameo in
>Veronica Guerin. Should've taken on a larger part however
>insteada signing on 4 Alexander but hindsite is 20/20. SWAT
>was forgettable but he was excellent in his next 2 flicks
>Intermission & Home @ the End of the World. Only 2 follow that
>up w/ Alexander. Inconsistent as hell but when he's good he's
>still 1 of the better young actors working 2day. Not sure why
>he's so hated other than the rep for boozing & womanizing
>which I have no problem w/ since he's so honest about it. I
>havent written him off yet.
>


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>'Minority Report' still had one of the great beginnings I've
>ever seen....what a fabulous beginning.

1 of my favorite opening sequences of all time. Right up there w/ Memento.

open minded and subjective(actually meant objective here). This is how men build and rule.

special effects were great...

but they completely squandered what could have been an interesting idea - pre-determining someone's guilt *before* they commit a crime. instead they made a by-the-numbers chase/action movie.

you could've replaced the pre-cog idea with any "dude being chased" plot and it would've been the same exact movie.

and i fucking *hated* (hated, hated, HATED!) the weird, avant-garde, over-acted, out-of-place 2nd tier performances (black market eye surgeon, plant geneticist lady, pre-cog-obsessed lab guy). tom cruise was doing is patented tom cruise thing and then he's in the same scene with these cheesy b-movie-level performances. it was jarring and laughably bad.

and it was all capped-off by the standard spielbergian shitty ending...

I mean, exact.

You guys are jerks -- you are supposed to be encouraging my change of heart. Instead you keep making these good points affirming my former opinion. Lol.

Trying to keep an open mind........


>special effects were great...
>
>but they completely squandered what could have been an
>interesting idea - pre-determining someone's guilt *before*
>they commit a crime. instead they made a by-the-numbers
>chase/action movie.
>
>you could've replaced the pre-cog idea with any "dude being
>chased" plot and it would've been the same exact movie.
>
>and i fucking *hated* (hated, hated, HATED!) the weird,
>avant-garde, over-acted, out-of-place 2nd tier performances
>(black market eye surgeon, plant geneticist lady,
>pre-cog-obsessed lab guy). tom cruise was doing is patented
>tom cruise thing and then he's in the same scene with these
>cheesy b-movie-level performances. it was jarring and
>laughably bad.
>
>and it was all capped-off by the standard spielbergian shitty
>ending...


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i liked the ending of WOTW, and i think its better that minority report. both had cruise, spielberg, tripods, and both were blue.

Just watched Minority Report again, and here are some thoughts...

The ending- So growing their hair out long and reading books in the middle of nowhere suddenly cures the pre-cogs of their nightmares? The little soliloquy from Agatha allows Tom Cruise and his wife to have another baby, when 6 years of mourning wasn't enough for him to get over it? And... Tom Cruise's role is the cop, not his wife? No? How does she so easily get into the prison?

And why does the system have to be perfect? Since when has anyboy ever had the idea that the justice system is even close to being perfect? I'd have to imagine that in 50 years the justice system will be just as fucked up as ever. Since when is the system being absolutely flawless absolutely necessary? Just prevent the murders on the visions that didn't match (unless they were alll murders by Lamar, I might've missed that) and stop the rest on the visions that match. And also... couldn't they put up a system where they just stop the murders and let the people go on a yellow card red card basis? I mean, they're stopping the murders anyway, and if it's a passion of crime, I doubt they're gonna do it again anyway. And if they do, just stop they asses again and put them away then.

And also, it's limited to the District of Columbia in what way? In terms of location? Cuz that's what it seemed like from the beginning scene, and how familiar the cops were with the city. Or is it the people? Cuz if it's location... First of all, just murder agatha's mom out of city limits.

And I really liked this movie when I first saw it. The ending just got me mad. Madder than the ending of SWAT.

>Just watched Minority Report again, and here are some
>thoughts...
>
>The ending- So growing their hair out long and reading books
>in the middle of nowhere suddenly cures the pre-cogs of their
>nightmares? The little soliloquy from Agatha allows Tom Cruise
>and his wife to have another baby, when 6 years of mourning
>wasn't enough for him to get over it? And... Tom Cruise's role
>is the cop, not his wife? No? How does she so easily get into
>the prison?

"It's in the eyes chico. They never lie"

>And why does the system have to be perfect? Since when has
>anyboy ever had the idea that the justice system is even close
>to being perfect? I'd have to imagine that in 50 years the
>justice system will be just as fucked up as ever. Since when
>is the system being absolutely flawless absolutely necessary?
>Just prevent the murders on the visions that didn't match
>(unless they were alll murders by Lamar, I might've missed
>that) and stop the rest on the visions that match. And also...
>couldn't they put up a system where they just stop the murders
>and let the people go on a yellow card red card basis? I mean,
>they're stopping the murders anyway, and if it's a passion of
>crime, I doubt they're gonna do it again anyway. And if they
>do, just stop they asses again and put them away then.
>
>And also, it's limited to the District of Columbia in what
>way? In terms of location? Cuz that's what it seemed like from
>the beginning scene, and how familiar the cops were with the
>city. Or is it the people? Cuz if it's location... First of
>all, just murder agatha's mom out of city limits.
>
>And I really liked this movie when I first saw it. The ending
>just got me mad. Madder than the ending of SWAT.

As if the rest of the movie was flawless up until the plane landed on the bridge?

>The ending- So growing their hair out long and reading books
>in the middle of nowhere suddenly cures the pre-cogs of their
>nightmares?

their precog power is limited by range, which is why they only picked up murders in DC and not NY or LA. So if they're out on an island in the middle of nowhere they won't sense anymore precog murders and will be left in peace.

>And why does the system have to be perfect? Since when has
>anyboy ever had the idea that the justice system is even close
>to being perfect? I'd have to imagine that in 50 years the
>justice system will be just as fucked up as ever. Since when
>is the system being absolutely flawless absolutely necessary?

But everybody WANTS it to be perfect. That's the point: what price are we willing to pay for a "perfect" system?

I don't see how anyone would sleep on that movie. It was very decent IMO.

>Just got through my second viewing.
>
>Definately a B-/B film and not a C-/C film as I had it rated
>before.
>
>See, I's an open minded original man, god.
>
>I can change my views of shit. I said I'd give it another
>chance, and yeah, it proved to be a bit better than my first
>viewing. Me no close-mind-o.
>
>
>Maybe it was just the "Cruise Factor" as Big Reg or someone
>said...his presence tends to remove a star from movies off
>top. No hating, but he's just that annoying.
>
>
>It still wasn't great though. It had that "inside job" hook to
>it, but it wasn't as good as 'Gattaca' in that
>regard....'Gattaca' had a more interesting hook and re-visited
>the broader philosophical implications better....in Gattaca,
>the crime was more about the bigger issue of
>nature/nuture....in 'Minority Report' the cause/effect issue
>all led up to the crime....yeah...let me phrase that better:
>
>
>In 'Gattaca', the murder mystery fed the greater philosophical
>point.
>
>In 'Minority Report' the philosophical point fed the murder
>mystery.
>
>
>I think the former is doper and more important because the
>murder mystery was mastered half a century ago and we don't
>need no mo cute murder mysteries. What we might need is a
>murder mystery that says something interesting about humanity
>and the world.
>
>
>That is why 'Gattaca' is A/A+ and 'Minority Report' B-/B.
>
>'Minority Report' still had one of the great beginnings I've
>ever seen....what a fabulous beginning. The action was well
>sequenced....was paced fairly well...good acting outside of
>Tom Cruise...pretty cool concept...a nice, cool, clean
>"whodunnit" movie.
>
>
>Oh, and 'Minority Report' still ain't shit compared to 'I
>Robot', so fuck y'all. And please...I'm trying to hear you
>rationalze a statement like "Will Smith played Will Smith and
>not the character in I, Robot'" yet won't say the same thing
>about Tom Cruise in 'Minority Report'. 'Minority Report'
>protagonist was the same muffucka, exactly, that was in
>Mission:Impossible. Hell, same dude as Jerry Mcgwire for that
>matter. Like I said, that Will Smith criticism is just
>racism/haterism.
>
>But let's stay on topic and shit. 'Minority Report' was on
>some decent shit, god.
>
>
>
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>
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