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3033463, They disrespected Big when they switched the beat up on AATB Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jul-17-21 03:43 PM
How you gonna have a weak beat just for his verse..
https://youtu.be/TzCboWqtqYY
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3033466, Nah that switch up is great. Makes the whole song build up to Posted by soulfunk, Sat Jul-17-21 03:59 PM
his verse. The beat on his verse is more high energy and is the perfect change of pace after the rest of the song was more of a head nodder.
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3033467, I mean it's cool Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jul-17-21 04:05 PM
I just wish they let BIG rock to the classic beat
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3033468, Yeah it made Big's verse feel like more of a FEATURE Posted by Adwhizz, Sat Jul-17-21 04:27 PM
Also I just like that little interlude part and then it goes back to the original beat to close out
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3033471, RE: They disrespected Big when they switched the beat up on AATB Posted by Mgmt, Sat Jul-17-21 08:09 PM
>How you gonna have a weak beat just for his verse.. > > >https://youtu.be/TzCboWqtqYY
You disrespected this forum with this post. That was the best part of the whole song.
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3033480, Guess so Posted by OKdamn, Sun Jul-18-21 01:00 PM
I didn't know people rode for that beat like that..all in fun I ain't nobody
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3033479, Naw...you had to be there Posted by nativesun07, Sun Jul-18-21 11:47 AM
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3033482, Exactly. At the time the rest of the song was a 3 minute warning Posted by soulfunk, Sun Jul-18-21 03:43 PM
to get to the dance floor for Big’s verse. With the ENTIRE club rapping his verse along with the record.
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3033483, I wonder if BIG was still alive, if the beat change survives? Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Sun Jul-18-21 03:45 PM
Like Adwhizz says, the presence of the beat drop brings attention to BIG's verse. But it also sets it apart from the other four, making it seem like a feature.
But I'm not sure BIG's flow works over the first beat. But like all things music, that's subjective.
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3033485, I might be wrong Posted by OKdamn, Sun Jul-18-21 06:44 PM
but I slightly recall someone saying BIG dropped to the og beat and the switch up was a later decision..
Regardless..it's not that bad. I'm just stirring the waters a bit..
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3033489, I doubt that was the case. Keep in mind the song had already Posted by soulfunk, Mon Jul-19-21 08:46 AM
been out with Puffy and the Lox in 96, and Kim and Big's verses were added later. On Big's verse his energy and cadence match the Jackson 5 sample on that switch up, not the gritty, stipped down regular beat. Big had all kinds of different voice personas - if he recorded his verse over the regular beat he likely would have gone for something more in his lower register like his voice on 10 Crack Commandments, or Unbelievable. Instead of that his verse on AATB is that high energy, higher vocal register tone like he used on Mo Money Mo Problems, which fits the Jackson 5 sample switch up perfectly.
Complete side note - to me it's Big's verses on those more commercial type hits that really separate him from other MCs in his category. There's plenty of rappers who could spit on the gritty beats, but if you put them over a commercialize single like Hypnotize, Mo Money Mo Problems, Big Poppa, the switch up beat on AATB, etc. they sacrifice their skill and dumb it down in an attempt to reach the masses (or they just never spit on commercial verses, likely because they don't have the ability Big had to be himself over those beats.) Biggie on the other hand would still spit interesting rhyme schemes, with witty takes, and would switch up his voice to fit while maintaining his skill and quality.
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3033492, Cool Posted by OKdamn, Mon Jul-19-21 11:41 AM
Thanks for clarifying..im always ready to be wrong and learn something new
Random but my favorite BIG verse was a guest verse..his verse on Realm Of Junior Mafia https://youtu.be/L5hbNnXaJBw
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3033537, A++++ post . We lost out on decades of amazing songwriting Posted by micMajestic, Thu Jul-22-21 04:30 PM
>been out with Puffy and the Lox in 96, and Kim and Big's >verses were added later. On Big's verse his energy and cadence >match the Jackson 5 sample on that switch up, not the gritty, >stipped down regular beat. Big had all kinds of different >voice personas - if he recorded his verse over the regular >beat he likely would have gone for something more in his lower >register like his voice on 10 Crack Commandments, or >Unbelievable. Instead of that his verse on AATB is that high >energy, higher vocal register tone like he used on Mo Money Mo >Problems, which fits the Jackson 5 sample switch up perfectly. > > >Complete side note - to me it's Big's verses on those more >commercial type hits that really separate him from other MCs >in his category. There's plenty of rappers who could spit on >the gritty beats, but if you put them over a commercialize >single like Hypnotize, Mo Money Mo Problems, Big Poppa, the >switch up beat on AATB, etc. they sacrifice their skill and >dumb it down in an attempt to reach the masses (or they just >never spit on commercial verses, likely because they don't >have the ability Big had to be himself over those beats.) >Biggie on the other hand would still spit interesting rhyme >schemes, with witty takes, and would switch up his voice to >fit while maintaining his skill and quality.
There is no way he raps like that over the original beat BIG always found the pocket, he always matched the feel of the track.
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3033536, I'm realizing if you weren't in the clubs when the OG dropped then Posted by micMajestic, Thu Jul-22-21 04:16 PM
you probably look at the song completely different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ7JtwUmfG4
I remember being at parties and going nuts when that beat dropped. It was one of the grittiest club record beats I had ever heard. Before "All About The Benjamins" you have to go back to "Go Stetsa" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqFpduGDzPg & JBeez Coming Through" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJeK2MZeRSc for hard club tracks but that was before my time.
I think the beat BIG is rapping over is kind of cutesy but the DJs were running the OG into the ground playing it back to back. There had to be some sort of switch up.
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3033552, RE: I'm realizing if you weren't in the clubs when the OG dropped then Posted by OKdamn, Fri Jul-23-21 12:55 PM
I wasn't club age yet so I've never heard the song in all it's loud glory.
I know what you mean though...Kanye's Send It Up in the club was surreal. Same with Down 4 My Niggas...it's a whole different experience played on club speakers
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3033568, the beat switch up is just as ill to me Posted by blackfoot_female, Sat Jul-24-21 12:23 AM
in fact, I think it's better because it put all the attention on his verse.
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