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3030563, RE: You got all weird about it....why?
Posted by peterportela, Sun Feb-28-21 07:48 PM
Well, I will be the first to admit I am weird to begin with lol.

But I did not see why me proposing Eminem's albums meant I should "leave." That offended me, for my sake and Eminem's, who deserves more respect here.

I don't see how EPMD boasting about "You're God damn right punk, stay outta my way, Cause I clock G's while you clock Z's", or Guru claiming "I will make a strong vow to make things right, Ignite the mic, get hype and all that", are any better or more artful than Eminem employing offensive and humorous content to mock our puritanical culture's outrage police ("Rain Man"), or to play out a pained character study of a woman-abuser that offers insight into the pathology of something enduringly real in our f****-up society ("Kim", which resembles Ghostface Killah's "Wildflower" in this way).

He is a genius of transgressive art, and a pretty damn skilled and clever rhymer. He touches on deep-seated male insecurities and neuroses (and their frequent manifestations in society) that most rappers are too cool to consider being open about, and he does so in ways that provoke laughter, thought, and chills.

And it does matter that an album sells a lot. It is a reflection of our collective consciousness, or at least the shared values and sensibilities of a large-enough amount of people we have to live amongst and care about. He has sold more than 220 million records around the world. He obviously has some connection to our collective humanity, so maybe we owe it to ourselves to re-examine if we're missing something.

In the opinion of HipHopDX, at least the Slim Shady LP, Marshall Mathers LP, and The Eminem Show were a "classic" series:

https://hiphopdx.com/editorials/id.2678/title.3-for-3-9-artists-who-crafted-a-triad-of-fantastic-albums-in-a-row#signup

There are lots of critics and writers who can speak on the merits of his music better than I can. Here is one of them:

https://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/music/eminem-lat.php

https://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/music/eminem-cp.php

https://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/music/eminem-06.php

Also, that HipHopDX article brought another name to mind (Missy Elliott) and another issue (have any female rappers been mentioned here?)