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3025056, Late 80s hip hop was IT Posted by OKdamn, Sun Jun-07-20 01:16 PM
86 to 89 when everyone was sampling JB.I forgot how ill this stuff was!
https://youtu.be/1_e3NmgJZ6w
https://youtu.be/05pcczvmrjc
https://youtu.be/ilrRvJLkwzw
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3025058, Queen Latifah - Wrath Of My Madness Posted by OKdamn, Sun Jun-07-20 01:22 PM
https://youtu.be/KfbKWxWpIIg
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3025062, RE: Queen Latifah - Wrath Of My Madness Posted by spidey, Sun Jun-07-20 06:41 PM
Classic...
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3025059, Nice And Smooth - Hit Me Posted by OKdamn, Sun Jun-07-20 01:39 PM
https://youtu.be/qocUoWJa_rM
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3025060, Hurby Luv Bug produced Christmas In Hollis Posted by OKdamn, Sun Jun-07-20 01:45 PM
I just now learned that..wow
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3025075, The A Side is where she first hit back hard at MC Lyte... Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Mon Jun-08-20 12:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFtxksa3JnI
Such an underrated battle record.
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3025088, This is fire Posted by OKdamn, Tue Jun-09-20 10:58 AM
I'm about to dl the whole album
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3025093, Has anyone documented what sounds EQ'd for 2020 on Spotify? Posted by Nodima, Wed Jun-10-20 02:33 AM
We're adjusting the feel of the restaurant I work at a lot while we have the time to do so and one of the things our chef asked for was little sprinklings of older hip-hop, inspired by when I let Tribe's "Oh My God (Remix)" into a ramshackle one night only playlist a few weeks ago. But I've been having a ton of trouble figuring out what's going to sound good over the Sonos system because of the wild fluctuation in mastering techniques. Like, it's bizarre to me that Digable Planets' "Where I'm From" is damn near mute while JVC Force's "Strong Island" is a total banger. Both sound great at home on a basic Klipsch 2.1 system, but at work some songs are practically non resonant.
I can rock "Bassline" by Mantronix but, ironically, "This Beat Kicks" by T La Rock is like attending a silent film.
~~~~~~~~~ "This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517 Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz
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3025095, Latee - This Cuts Got Flavor Posted by OKdamn, Wed Jun-10-20 12:24 PM
https://youtu.be/Iy8tGbg7wLc
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3025096, Sir Ibu - I'm the Peacemaker Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jun-10-20 01:27 PM
One of the O.G.s (Original Gods) ripping it over some James Brown's and Kool & the Gang sampled funk. Just raw and rugged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BCCpYBdqHM
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3025097, Three Times Dope - Improvin' Da Groovin' Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jun-10-20 01:30 PM
EST doesn't got enough credit. The Overlord of Fresh developed Wu-Tang/E-40 levels of slang back in the late '80s, and he could flow his ass off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm9jtazpjLA
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3025098, Tuff Crew - My Part of Town Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jun-10-20 01:49 PM
More raw shit from a slept on, but fairly prolific crew from Philly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUiKSkCyRIs
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3025105, Yeeiss (c) Morris Day Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 11:47 AM
YouTube is rabbit hole with this stuff. So much fire that nobody knew about if you didn't hear it on BET or Yo.
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3042471, Tuff Crew - Open Field Attack Posted by makaveli, Tue Apr-11-23 12:48 PM
love My part of Town but i think i like this one even better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0PAGjrH8bs
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3025099, Krown Rulers - Kick the Ball Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jun-10-20 01:52 PM
More Philly shit. Just hyped rhymes over a drum track and some scratches. Doesn't get much more late '80s than that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUm8JOuA2x0
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3025101, you're dropping straight gems in here fam!! Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Wed Jun-10-20 10:11 PM
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3025106, Funk face in less than 10 seconds Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 11:49 AM
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3025104, Def Jef - On the Real Tip Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-11-20 10:44 AM
Some self-produced heat by an MC who had to move from NY to California to get some shine. Dude has two dope albums, but his first single sets things off right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAeo86s93UE
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3025113, Had anyone notable sampled Got To Be Real before this? Posted by phemom, Thu Jun-11-20 02:02 PM
I feel like you can't lose with that flip.
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3029729, RE: Had anyone notable sampled Got To Be Real before this? Posted by Original Juice, Tue Jan-12-21 02:42 PM
>I feel like you can't lose with that flip.
M.C. Shy D "I Don't Play, part 2" (1988) https://youtu.be/2nqpHarrIKQ
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3025107, Mc Lyte - Throwin Words At You Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 11:53 AM
https://youtu.be/k58su3k9OZ8
These beats ..good God
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3025108, Kool G Rap & DJ Polo - Money In The Bank Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 11:59 AM
https://youtu.be/KjH3bTjaT5c
Ft Large Professor
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3025109, Tone Loc - Cutting Rhythms Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 12:08 PM
https://youtu.be/EeYlz2tOnpA
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3025110, Young MC - Know How Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-11-20 12:37 PM
Yeah, "Bust a Move" was corny. Whatever. He kills this. Produced by the Dust Brothers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wck6YaZytmM
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3025112, They always hype up the worst song on the album Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 01:18 PM
I had this tape and I wore it out. Non Stop was my cut.
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3025111, Stezo (R.I.P.) - To the Max Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-11-20 12:39 PM
Great song from an immaculately mixed album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC57FNW3xyI
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3025198, damn i didnt know he passed..crazy noise was my shit. Posted by mikediggz, Wed Jun-17-20 04:58 PM
rip
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3025114, YZ - IN Control of Things Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-11-20 03:55 PM
Dude doesn't enough. Made a lot of really dope material during this era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNcTqU2aZS0
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3025115, RE: YZ - IN Control of Things Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 10:30 PM
I miss when rappers would shut up and let the beat ride in the chorus hahaha
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3025129, RE: YZ - IN Control of Things Posted by mrhood75, Fri Jun-12-20 03:09 PM
>I miss when rappers would shut up and let the beat ride in >the chorus hahaha
Ha. You know, I was essentially going to say the same thing in the next link I put up.
Hip-Hop is hook dependent now. It's unthinkable to now just let the beat speak for itself.
Last rapper to really commit to that sort of thing was Rakim. Even through the "Don't Sweat the Technique" album, the choruses to lots of his tracks were just the beat playing.
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3025133, This Song Is The Reason Why I Liked Lil Kim's "No Time" Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 09:59 PM
I remember the first time I heard YZ's "In Control Of Things" was on Marley Marl's "In Control Show" back in the fall of '89 and was mad I couldn't find the album for two years in stores back home.
Anyway, that beat was banging, and when Lil' Kim used it, I always think of YZ's version.
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3029738, That beat is godly Posted by cidolfas, Tue Jan-12-21 06:21 PM
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3025130, Chill Rob G - Let the Words Flow Posted by mrhood75, Fri Jun-12-20 03:22 PM
Still bugs me that most people knowledge of him extends a bootleg track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMX94zatbJc
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3025134, Ice Cream Tee "I Can't Hold Back" Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 10:17 PM
"Can't Hold Back": https://youtu.be/3nbbTOvNgTQ
She was spittin' on this, plus the beat was dope too.
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3025150, Yoooo Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 08:29 AM
I haven't heard this in forever..had this tape too
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3025135, Izzy Ice "Soul Man" Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 10:27 PM
"Soul Man (The Jeep Mix)": https://youtu.be/MkAmLPW_aKU
I like the song, but this version of the song the Jeep Mix was the one the djs played that got me into it; later on Izzy Ice ended up forming the duo "Da King & I" with their popular songs "Flip The Script" & "Krack The Weasel".
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3025136, Markey Fresh (R.I.P.) "The Mack Of Rap" Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 10:30 PM
"Mack Of Rap (Extended Version)": https://youtu.be/5L4VXKDdK6I
Dj Red-Alert use to play this gem a lot cause he was another Flavor Unit emcee, too bad he passed away before coming out with anymore songs, Rest In Peace Markey Fresh.
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3025137, Breeze "The Young Son Of No One" Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 10:35 PM
"T.Y.S.O.N. (The Young Son Of No One)": https://youtu.be/-Qhy-2cqZo0
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3025151, That beat is hard Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 08:40 AM
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3025139, King Sun "Mythological Rapper" (1987) Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 10:52 PM
"Mythological Rapper": https://youtu.be/JDueczdgwiI
I'm not sure but I think King Sun had beef with LL Cool J, who I think he is dissin' on this song, but I'm not sure if that's true.
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3025140, Jamose "The Rhymthologist" Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 11:11 PM
"The Rhymthologist": https://youtu.be/iB9VTNq60Ho
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3025152, Ugh Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 08:46 AM
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3025142, MC Rell & The Houserockers - The Rell Thing Posted by c71, Fri Jun-12-20 11:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMdsLVOHtqQ
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3025143, Dj Derek B. & EZQ "Rock The Beat" (1987) Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 11:41 PM
"Rock The Beat": https://youtu.be/F3Ki8oXqwFk
British rapper EZQ was Derek B.'s rap alias, I use to listen to his album "Bullet From A Gun" all the time back in the day, for a British rapper he was pretty good, he also was a producer and dj as well, in 2009 he passed away from a heart attack.
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3025144, Alliance "Bustin' Loose" Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 11:49 PM
"Bustin' Loose": https://youtu.be/9JKNRolaD30
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3025145, True Mathematics "For The Money" Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 11:51 PM
"For The Money": https://youtu.be/Mekn4Jfdhm4
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3025146, KIngs of Pressure - Slang Teacher Posted by c71, Sat Jun-13-20 12:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-fNjcWmiZk
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3025147, M.C. Shan - Down By Law Posted by c71, Sat Jun-13-20 12:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EroH_2830
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3025199, Shans album got alotta burn...left me lonely was that deal Posted by mikediggz, Wed Jun-17-20 05:12 PM
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3025148, Donald-D - Notorious Posted by c71, Sat Jun-13-20 12:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icxoZzxjXzE
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3025149, 2 Live Crew - Feel Alright Yall Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 08:27 AM
https://youtu.be/sPeVtJJF47w
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3025153, Run Dmc - How Ya Do It Dee Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 08:55 AM
Tougher Than Leather was better than Raising Hell imo
https://youtu.be/gd8Zoc_uz4I
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3025154, Rapmasters 4 Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 09:03 AM
https://youtu.be/eQWO2htuucY
These were a popular compilation series on casettes right before CDs started to come into play
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3025155, Kool Moe Dee - 50 Ways Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 09:13 AM
Haven't heard this in forever. Listening now, it was kinda innovative for it's time. It samples Paul Simon lol. If I'm not mistaken, Teddy Riley produced this album. https://youtu.be/LMhM830kINY
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3025196, i'm going to play some of these Thurs night on my IG... Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Wed Jun-17-20 02:56 PM
..9pm EST
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3029713, Queen Latifah- Queen Of Royal Badness Posted by OKdamn, Mon Jan-11-21 06:51 PM
https://youtu.be/gWWGT798_ak
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3029728, Great thread. Thank you! Posted by cidolfas, Tue Jan-12-21 02:36 PM
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3029737, JVC Force - Strong Island Posted by KnowNaim_X, Tue Jan-12-21 06:06 PM
https://youtu.be/05pcczvmrjc
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3029993, I remember the mix of this song being so much better than everything Posted by micMajestic, Tue Feb-02-21 09:59 PM
>https://youtu.be/05pcczvmrjc
else rocking on the mixshows around that time. DJs would always play the instrumental while they were talking.
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3029739, Cool C - Juice Crew Diss Posted by KnowNaim_X, Tue Jan-12-21 06:30 PM
https://youtu.be/U651gZ_YfKY
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3029746, Not a big fan. Posted by stone_phalanges, Wed Jan-13-21 08:09 PM
Unless we are talking about Kool G Rap, or EPMD, 80's rap sounds very dated to me. It's kind like proto-hiphop for me. I really can see myself revisiting most of the music of that era.
Even classics like 3 feet high and rising. It's ok as sort of experimental energetic music, but in some ways it doesn't even sound like hip hop to me. mid to late 80's hip-hop was in some sort of late stage stripped down disco flux.
Y'all old.
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3029747, The raw wild joy of it makes it even better than 91-94 Posted by cidolfas, Wed Jan-13-21 11:27 PM
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3029748, You had to be there Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jan-14-21 08:59 AM
Being born in 78 was perfect. I was there for every classic era. In the late 80s the only time real hip hop was on tv was once a day for 1 hour. So that was a special time. Rap was just starting to become sample heavy, so listening to a new rap album put you on the funky stuff that had been forgotten. Then in the 90s it got better and better. And yeah I'm getting old. I got a charley horse while I was bonkin my gal last night. It was hella embarrassing.
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3029941, You seriously have no idea how rhyming started. Posted by allStah, Sat Jan-30-21 06:08 AM
It was originally called disco rap. B-Boys and B-Girls started shouting out over disco breaks, which eventually led to rhyming over disco breaks. This is why MCs had a rapid flow when reciting lyrics. The rhythm of the rhyme had to match the rhythm of the music.
This is before drum machines and drum kits, just a dj, two turntables and a MC rhyming over breaks.
As rhyming progressed and music technology became more advanced, hip hop artists started programming beats to have a boom bap sound , and slowed the tempo of the beat. With the invention of the TR-808, Hip hop developed a signature sound.
Basically, sounds just graduated from one phase to another as hip hop evolved.
I would advise you to study and research the beginning of rhyming, so you can get a better understanding of how rhyming started, and who were the TRUE pioneers.
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3042461, You seem to not know what an opinion is. Posted by stone_phalanges, Mon Apr-10-23 10:24 AM
Or am I not allowed to not like something, I guess, because you like it a lot?
The history is irrelevant. I didn't say a single thing about the history of hip-hop. I didn't say de la soul invented hip hop or whatever nonsense you are trying to imply that I said. I made a comment about my personal tastes. What exactly do you not understand about someone liking or not liking something?
History can and should enrich the experience of art, but it doesn't make you like something that you don't like.
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3029749, The instrumental track on rap albums Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jan-14-21 12:44 PM
Whodini - Now That Whodini's Inside The Joint https://youtu.be/zPzSC8oPXHM
Eric B Never Scared https://youtu.be/0FXhJjOexXI
Epmd - DJ K La Boss https://youtu.be/d-rwdfD0hME
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3029750, Steady B - Use Me Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jan-14-21 12:49 PM
https://youtu.be/E-U-xhabfaE
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3029751, Rap slow songs Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jan-14-21 01:02 PM
Heavy D - Don't You Know https://youtu.be/xgjwz5hDOk4
Sir Mix A Lot - Romantic Interlude https://youtu.be/w4zl4C0UHQw
MC Shan - Left Me Lonely https://youtu.be/nuTogL4haSY
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3029832, Big Daddy Kane feat Biz Markie - just rhymin' with biz Posted by chincheckin, Fri Jan-22-21 11:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Mc3Go-RKg
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3029864, Lakim Shabazz - Sample the Dope Noise Posted by BSharp, Sun Jan-24-21 11:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql3H97KDCbg
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3029868, Oh this is what we're doing now? I'll be right back Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 09:57 AM
I scrolled down this post and saw a lot of official joints. Now I'm going to be in this bag all day.
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3029870, Chill Rob G - Court is Now in Session Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 10:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRkYafe1ssg
When I was young rappers were telling me that I could make a difference.
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3029871, Masters of Ceremony (Grand Puba) - Cracked Out Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 01:17 PM
you are what you are whatever you are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62T0Njv-xjM
Back in the day there were a couple NYC public access shows that had acts come through and perform (or lip sync) their songs. Goldie's Hot Raps was one of them, RIP Goldie. This is a performance of the song in question from Goldie's Hot Raps. Puba was always a natural.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeUHBxOJkME
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3029873, Zoom Zoom Zoom, Zoom Za Zoom Za Zoom - RIP Craig Mack Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 01:34 PM
MC EZ (Craig Mack) & Troup - Get Retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk9RaIel9kc
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3029874, Dismasters - Small Time Hustler is an all time classic Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 01:38 PM
I would have thought these guys would have more great songs but I don't remember anything special coming after that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xfMKJ6dWaU
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3029877, Mob Style - "Gangsta Shit" might be rap snitching at it's best/worst Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 02:03 PM
Yo Tone should I bring the rest of the crew? Whip, Alpo, Big Just & Rich?
Late 80's the hustlers wanted to be like the rappers and the rappers wanted to be like the hustlers. I guess these brothers wanted to make their version of "The Symphony". The movie "Paid in Full" portrayed Azie as someone who wasn't violent and shied away from the spotlight. That would have made more sense if I hadn't heard the music he was making before Rich Porter and a few others in his crew were killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbQpNzKcmbg
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3029891, Wow. Posted by BSharp, Tue Jan-26-21 02:12 PM
I've never heard this song, or the story of the crew who made it.
This shit is hard!
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3029880, MBS (Molecular Beat Squadron) - Transmit Power Posted by c71, Mon Jan-25-21 06:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPbIuvGd4kE
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3029881, Tragedy - the rebel Posted by c71, Mon Jan-25-21 06:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP95nCNky5g
some supposed disco? eh....stone philanges?
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3029892, Great tracks! I dl'd them all Posted by OKdamn, Tue Jan-26-21 02:37 PM
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3029896, Awesome Dre - Executioner Style Posted by OKdamn, Wed Jan-27-21 01:07 PM
https://youtu.be/kYxQOZxM5LU
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3029968, Divine Force - "Holy War" Ghostface jacked this for "Mighty Healthy" Posted by micMajestic, Mon Feb-01-21 03:39 PM
and "The Grain"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PhX9s3AS0g
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3029984, Fire Posted by OKdamn, Tue Feb-02-21 05:52 PM
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3042460, Dope as shit. Posted by WarriorPoet415, Mon Apr-10-23 10:22 AM
And daaaaaammmmn. Ghost freakin' snatched the fugg out of this style. ______________________________________________________________________________
"To Each His Reach"
but.....
Fuck aliens.
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3029969, Too Poetic - God Made Me Funky (Grym Reaper from Gravediggaz) Posted by micMajestic, Mon Feb-01-21 03:46 PM
This brother had always been nice. He had some songs with his brother that were dope as well, I remember seeing them perform on a public access cable show.
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3029982, Greg Nice (Nice & Smooth) - Set It Off Posted by DanSpeak, Tue Feb-02-21 05:33 PM
SO slept on... https://youtu.be/EIn2CxAKEAQ
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3029983, I'm sad that Nice & Smooth and Beatnuts album never happened Posted by OKdamn, Tue Feb-02-21 05:50 PM
That shit was gonna be ill!
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3029985, Paris - Brutal Posted by OKdamn, Tue Feb-02-21 05:58 PM
Heavy https://youtu.be/y9BmGfwCnGQ
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3029992, 991 Volts - Champion of Love.... Mc Royal was dumb nice Posted by micMajestic, Tue Feb-02-21 09:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb0RQn7wwcc
He had that obnoxious young wordsmith Special Ed/Hiero type vibe.
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3038438, Im making a mixtape on a maxell 90 min cassette Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-23-22 04:07 PM
Gonna try to draw strictly from this thread plus a few others like K9 Posse tossed in the mix
If there's anything that may be super-underground that people may not be hip too please add on..
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3038439, Arabian Prince - Let The Good Times Roll Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-23-22 04:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9vqg2pRVzI
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3038484, i recently did a dive into late 80's albums... Posted by Small Pro, Tue Jun-28-22 02:47 PM
...that i wasnt familiar with via twitter thread suggestion, found some REALLY dope shit that i maybe had heard of before but never peeped (especially Philly rap). Will return with highlights...
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3042456, Twin Hype - Do It To The Crowd Posted by OKdamn, Mon Apr-10-23 09:16 AM
https://youtu.be/Bwkj5wd0kc0
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3042457, JJ Fad - Blame It On The Musick Posted by OKdamn, Mon Apr-10-23 09:18 AM
https://youtu.be/JJZ7jDyBLyY
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3042459, Kwame - The Rhythm Posted by WarriorPoet415, Mon Apr-10-23 10:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt7qSEmaciU ______________________________________________________________________________
"To Each His Reach"
but.....
Fuck aliens.
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3042466, Audio Two had beats!! Posted by chincheckin, Tue Apr-11-23 09:04 AM
Audio Two - Hickeys on my neck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpXLZvWEicw
Audio Two - Start It Up Yall (ft Positive K & MC Lyte) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU4rJuAJro4
MC Lyte - Throwin' Words at U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8iMp5tF_b4
MC Lyte- Lyte As A Rock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rsgrgo5f-0
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3042476, RE: Audio Two had beats!! Posted by OKdamn, Tue Apr-11-23 07:55 PM
Can't forget 10% Diss...still banging
https://youtu.be/vmd6E_ZCem4
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3042477, Roxanne Shante - Go On Girl Posted by OKdamn, Tue Apr-11-23 07:57 PM
https://youtu.be/0V_9LunHXtk
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3042478, K9 Posse - Ain't Nothing To It Posted by chincheckin, Wed Apr-12-23 08:55 AM
Eddie Murphy's lil bro on the rhymes. DJ Bobcat (West Coast DJ legend) on the beats and cuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjH939ecjaE
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