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3025056, Late 80s hip hop was IT
Posted by OKdamn, Sun Jun-07-20 01:16 PM
86 to 89 when everyone was sampling JB.I forgot how ill this stuff was!

https://youtu.be/1_e3NmgJZ6w


https://youtu.be/05pcczvmrjc


https://youtu.be/ilrRvJLkwzw
3025058, Queen Latifah - Wrath Of My Madness
Posted by OKdamn, Sun Jun-07-20 01:22 PM
https://youtu.be/KfbKWxWpIIg
3025062, RE: Queen Latifah - Wrath Of My Madness
Posted by spidey, Sun Jun-07-20 06:41 PM
Classic...
3025059, Nice And Smooth - Hit Me
Posted by OKdamn, Sun Jun-07-20 01:39 PM
https://youtu.be/qocUoWJa_rM
3025060, Hurby Luv Bug produced Christmas In Hollis
Posted by OKdamn, Sun Jun-07-20 01:45 PM
I just now learned that..wow
3025075, The A Side is where she first hit back hard at MC Lyte...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Mon Jun-08-20 12:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFtxksa3JnI


Such an underrated battle record.


3025088, This is fire
Posted by OKdamn, Tue Jun-09-20 10:58 AM
I'm about to dl the whole album
3025093, Has anyone documented what sounds EQ'd for 2020 on Spotify?
Posted by Nodima, Wed Jun-10-20 02:33 AM
We're adjusting the feel of the restaurant I work at a lot while we have the time to do so and one of the things our chef asked for was little sprinklings of older hip-hop, inspired by when I let Tribe's "Oh My God (Remix)" into a ramshackle one night only playlist a few weeks ago. But I've been having a ton of trouble figuring out what's going to sound good over the Sonos system because of the wild fluctuation in mastering techniques. Like, it's bizarre to me that Digable Planets' "Where I'm From" is damn near mute while JVC Force's "Strong Island" is a total banger. Both sound great at home on a basic Klipsch 2.1 system, but at work some songs are practically non resonant.


I can rock "Bassline" by Mantronix but, ironically, "This Beat Kicks" by T La Rock is like attending a silent film.


~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz
3025095, Latee - This Cuts Got Flavor
Posted by OKdamn, Wed Jun-10-20 12:24 PM
https://youtu.be/Iy8tGbg7wLc
3025096, Sir Ibu - I'm the Peacemaker
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jun-10-20 01:27 PM

One of the O.G.s (Original Gods) ripping it over some James Brown's and Kool & the Gang sampled funk. Just raw and rugged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BCCpYBdqHM
3025097, Three Times Dope - Improvin' Da Groovin'
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jun-10-20 01:30 PM
EST doesn't got enough credit. The Overlord of Fresh developed Wu-Tang/E-40 levels of slang back in the late '80s, and he could flow his ass off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm9jtazpjLA
3025098, Tuff Crew - My Part of Town
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jun-10-20 01:49 PM

More raw shit from a slept on, but fairly prolific crew from Philly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUiKSkCyRIs
3025105, Yeeiss (c) Morris Day
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 11:47 AM
YouTube is rabbit hole with this stuff. So much fire that nobody knew about if you didn't hear it on BET or Yo.
3025099, Krown Rulers - Kick the Ball
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jun-10-20 01:52 PM

More Philly shit. Just hyped rhymes over a drum track and some scratches. Doesn't get much more late '80s than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUm8JOuA2x0
3025101, you're dropping straight gems in here fam!!
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Wed Jun-10-20 10:11 PM
3025106, Funk face in less than 10 seconds
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 11:49 AM
3025104, Def Jef - On the Real Tip
Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-11-20 10:44 AM

Some self-produced heat by an MC who had to move from NY to California to get some shine. Dude has two dope albums, but his first single sets things off right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAeo86s93UE
3025113, Had anyone notable sampled Got To Be Real before this?
Posted by phemom, Thu Jun-11-20 02:02 PM
I feel like you can't lose with that flip.
3029729, RE: Had anyone notable sampled Got To Be Real before this?
Posted by Original Juice, Tue Jan-12-21 02:42 PM
>I feel like you can't lose with that flip.

M.C. Shy D "I Don't Play, part 2" (1988)
https://youtu.be/2nqpHarrIKQ
3025107, Mc Lyte - Throwin Words At You
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 11:53 AM
https://youtu.be/k58su3k9OZ8

These beats ..good God
3025108, Kool G Rap & DJ Polo - Money In The Bank
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 11:59 AM
https://youtu.be/KjH3bTjaT5c

Ft Large Professor
3025109, Tone Loc - Cutting Rhythms
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 12:08 PM
https://youtu.be/EeYlz2tOnpA
3025110, Young MC - Know How
Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-11-20 12:37 PM

Yeah, "Bust a Move" was corny. Whatever. He kills this. Produced by the Dust Brothers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wck6YaZytmM
3025112, They always hype up the worst song on the album
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 01:18 PM
I had this tape and I wore it out. Non Stop was my cut.
3025111, Stezo (R.I.P.) - To the Max
Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-11-20 12:39 PM

Great song from an immaculately mixed album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC57FNW3xyI
3025198, damn i didnt know he passed..crazy noise was my shit.
Posted by mikediggz, Wed Jun-17-20 04:58 PM
rip
3025114, YZ - IN Control of Things
Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-11-20 03:55 PM

Dude doesn't enough. Made a lot of really dope material during this era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNcTqU2aZS0

3025115, RE: YZ - IN Control of Things
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-11-20 10:30 PM
I miss when rappers would shut up and let the beat ride in the chorus hahaha
3025129, RE: YZ - IN Control of Things
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Jun-12-20 03:09 PM
>I miss when rappers would shut up and let the beat ride in
>the chorus hahaha

Ha. You know, I was essentially going to say the same thing in the next link I put up.

Hip-Hop is hook dependent now. It's unthinkable to now just let the beat speak for itself.

Last rapper to really commit to that sort of thing was Rakim. Even through the "Don't Sweat the Technique" album, the choruses to lots of his tracks were just the beat playing.
3025133, This Song Is The Reason Why I Liked Lil Kim's "No Time"
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 09:59 PM
I remember the first time I heard YZ's "In Control Of Things" was on Marley Marl's "In Control Show" back in the fall of '89 and was mad I couldn't find the album for two years in stores back home.

Anyway, that beat was banging, and when Lil' Kim used it, I always think of YZ's version.


3029738, That beat is godly
Posted by cidolfas, Tue Jan-12-21 06:21 PM
3025130, Chill Rob G - Let the Words Flow
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Jun-12-20 03:22 PM

Still bugs me that most people knowledge of him extends a bootleg track.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMX94zatbJc
3025134, Ice Cream Tee "I Can't Hold Back"
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 10:17 PM
"Can't Hold Back": https://youtu.be/3nbbTOvNgTQ

She was spittin' on this, plus the beat was dope too.


3025150, Yoooo
Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 08:29 AM
I haven't heard this in forever..had this tape too
3025135, Izzy Ice "Soul Man"
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 10:27 PM
"Soul Man (The Jeep Mix)": https://youtu.be/MkAmLPW_aKU

I like the song, but this version of the song the Jeep Mix was the one the djs played that got me into it; later on Izzy Ice ended up forming the duo "Da King & I" with their popular songs "Flip The Script" & "Krack The Weasel".


3025136, Markey Fresh (R.I.P.) "The Mack Of Rap"
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 10:30 PM
"Mack Of Rap (Extended Version)": https://youtu.be/5L4VXKDdK6I

Dj Red-Alert use to play this gem a lot cause he was another Flavor Unit emcee, too bad he passed away before coming out with anymore songs, Rest In Peace Markey Fresh.


3025137, Breeze "The Young Son Of No One"
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 10:35 PM
"T.Y.S.O.N. (The Young Son Of No One)": https://youtu.be/-Qhy-2cqZo0


3025151, That beat is hard
Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 08:40 AM
3025139, King Sun "Mythological Rapper" (1987)
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 10:52 PM
"Mythological Rapper": https://youtu.be/JDueczdgwiI

I'm not sure but I think King Sun had beef with LL Cool J, who I think he is dissin' on this song, but I'm not sure if that's true.


3025140, Jamose "The Rhymthologist"
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 11:11 PM
"The Rhymthologist": https://youtu.be/iB9VTNq60Ho


3025152, Ugh
Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 08:46 AM
3025142, MC Rell & The Houserockers - The Rell Thing
Posted by c71, Fri Jun-12-20 11:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMdsLVOHtqQ
3025143, Dj Derek B. & EZQ "Rock The Beat" (1987)
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 11:41 PM
"Rock The Beat": https://youtu.be/F3Ki8oXqwFk

British rapper EZQ was Derek B.'s rap alias, I use to listen to his album "Bullet From A Gun" all the time back in the day, for a British rapper he was pretty good, he also was a producer and dj as well, in 2009 he passed away from a heart attack.


3025144, Alliance "Bustin' Loose"
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 11:49 PM
"Bustin' Loose": https://youtu.be/9JKNRolaD30


3025145, True Mathematics "For The Money"
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jun-12-20 11:51 PM
"For The Money": https://youtu.be/Mekn4Jfdhm4


3025146, KIngs of Pressure - Slang Teacher
Posted by c71, Sat Jun-13-20 12:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-fNjcWmiZk

3025147, M.C. Shan - Down By Law
Posted by c71, Sat Jun-13-20 12:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EroH_2830
3025199, Shans album got alotta burn...left me lonely was that deal
Posted by mikediggz, Wed Jun-17-20 05:12 PM
3025148, Donald-D - Notorious
Posted by c71, Sat Jun-13-20 12:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icxoZzxjXzE
3025149, 2 Live Crew - Feel Alright Yall
Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 08:27 AM
https://youtu.be/sPeVtJJF47w
3025153, Run Dmc - How Ya Do It Dee
Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 08:55 AM
Tougher Than Leather was better than Raising Hell imo

https://youtu.be/gd8Zoc_uz4I
3025154, Rapmasters 4
Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 09:03 AM
https://youtu.be/eQWO2htuucY

These were a popular compilation series on casettes right before CDs started to come into play
3025155, Kool Moe Dee - 50 Ways
Posted by OKdamn, Sat Jun-13-20 09:13 AM
Haven't heard this in forever. Listening now, it was kinda innovative for it's time. It samples Paul Simon lol. If I'm not mistaken, Teddy Riley produced this album.
https://youtu.be/LMhM830kINY
3025196, i'm going to play some of these Thurs night on my IG...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Wed Jun-17-20 02:56 PM
..9pm EST


3029713, Queen Latifah- Queen Of Royal Badness
Posted by OKdamn, Mon Jan-11-21 06:51 PM
https://youtu.be/gWWGT798_ak
3029728, Great thread. Thank you!
Posted by cidolfas, Tue Jan-12-21 02:36 PM
3029737, JVC Force - Strong Island
Posted by KnowNaim_X, Tue Jan-12-21 06:06 PM
https://youtu.be/05pcczvmrjc
3029993, I remember the mix of this song being so much better than everything
Posted by micMajestic, Tue Feb-02-21 09:59 PM
>https://youtu.be/05pcczvmrjc

else rocking on the mixshows around that time. DJs would always play the instrumental while they were talking.
3029739, Cool C - Juice Crew Diss
Posted by KnowNaim_X, Tue Jan-12-21 06:30 PM
https://youtu.be/U651gZ_YfKY
3029746, Not a big fan.
Posted by stone_phalanges, Wed Jan-13-21 08:09 PM
Unless we are talking about Kool G Rap, or EPMD, 80's rap sounds very dated to me. It's kind like proto-hiphop for me. I really can see myself revisiting most of the music of that era.

Even classics like 3 feet high and rising. It's ok as sort of experimental energetic music, but in some ways it doesn't even sound like hip hop to me. mid to late 80's hip-hop was in some sort of late stage stripped down disco flux.


Y'all old.
3029747, The raw wild joy of it makes it even better than 91-94
Posted by cidolfas, Wed Jan-13-21 11:27 PM
3029748, You had to be there
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jan-14-21 08:59 AM
Being born in 78 was perfect. I was there for every classic era.
In the late 80s the only time real hip hop was on tv was once a day for 1 hour. So that was a special time.
Rap was just starting to become sample heavy, so listening to a new rap album put you on the funky stuff that had been forgotten. Then in the 90s it got better and better.
And yeah I'm getting old. I got a charley horse while I was bonkin my gal last night. It was hella embarrassing.
3029941, You seriously have no idea how rhyming started.
Posted by allStah, Sat Jan-30-21 06:08 AM
It was originally called disco rap. B-Boys and B-Girls started shouting out over
disco breaks, which eventually led to rhyming over disco breaks. This is why
MCs had a rapid flow when reciting lyrics. The rhythm of the rhyme had to match
the rhythm of the music.

This is before drum machines and drum kits, just a dj, two turntables and a MC
rhyming over breaks.

As rhyming progressed and music technology became more advanced, hip hop artists started programming beats to have a boom bap sound , and slowed the tempo of the beat. With the invention of the TR-808, Hip hop developed a signature sound.

Basically, sounds just graduated from one phase to another as hip hop evolved.

I would advise you to study and research the beginning of rhyming, so you can get a better understanding of how rhyming started, and who were the TRUE pioneers.








3029749, The instrumental track on rap albums
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jan-14-21 12:44 PM
Whodini - Now That Whodini's Inside The Joint
https://youtu.be/zPzSC8oPXHM

Eric B Never Scared
https://youtu.be/0FXhJjOexXI

Epmd - DJ K La Boss
https://youtu.be/d-rwdfD0hME

3029750, Steady B - Use Me
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jan-14-21 12:49 PM
https://youtu.be/E-U-xhabfaE
3029751, Rap slow songs
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jan-14-21 01:02 PM
Heavy D - Don't You Know
https://youtu.be/xgjwz5hDOk4

Sir Mix A Lot - Romantic Interlude
https://youtu.be/w4zl4C0UHQw

MC Shan - Left Me Lonely
https://youtu.be/nuTogL4haSY
3029832, Big Daddy Kane feat Biz Markie - just rhymin' with biz
Posted by chincheckin, Fri Jan-22-21 11:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Mc3Go-RKg

3029864, Lakim Shabazz - Sample the Dope Noise
Posted by BSharp, Sun Jan-24-21 11:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql3H97KDCbg
3029868, Oh this is what we're doing now? I'll be right back
Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 09:57 AM
I scrolled down this post and saw a lot of official joints. Now I'm going to be in this bag all day.
3029870, Chill Rob G - Court is Now in Session
Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 10:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRkYafe1ssg

When I was young rappers were telling me that I could make a difference.
3029871, Masters of Ceremony (Grand Puba) - Cracked Out
Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 01:17 PM
you are what you are
whatever you are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62T0Njv-xjM

Back in the day there were a couple NYC public access shows that had acts come through and perform (or lip sync) their songs. Goldie's Hot Raps was one of them, RIP Goldie. This is a performance of the song in question from Goldie's Hot Raps. Puba was always a natural.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeUHBxOJkME
3029873, Zoom Zoom Zoom, Zoom Za Zoom Za Zoom - RIP Craig Mack
Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 01:34 PM
MC EZ (Craig Mack) & Troup - Get Retarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk9RaIel9kc
3029874, Dismasters - Small Time Hustler is an all time classic
Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 01:38 PM
I would have thought these guys would have more great songs but I don't remember anything special coming after that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xfMKJ6dWaU
3029877, Mob Style - "Gangsta Shit" might be rap snitching at it's best/worst
Posted by micMajestic, Mon Jan-25-21 02:03 PM
Yo Tone should I bring the rest of the crew?
Whip, Alpo, Big Just & Rich?

Late 80's the hustlers wanted to be like the rappers and the rappers wanted to be like the hustlers. I guess these brothers wanted to make their version of "The Symphony". The movie "Paid in Full" portrayed Azie as someone who wasn't violent and shied away from the spotlight. That would have made more sense if I hadn't heard the music he was making before Rich Porter and a few others in his crew were killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbQpNzKcmbg
3029891, Wow.
Posted by BSharp, Tue Jan-26-21 02:12 PM
I've never heard this song, or the story of the crew who made it.

This shit is hard!
3029880, MBS (Molecular Beat Squadron) - Transmit Power
Posted by c71, Mon Jan-25-21 06:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPbIuvGd4kE
3029881, Tragedy - the rebel
Posted by c71, Mon Jan-25-21 06:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP95nCNky5g



some supposed disco? eh....stone philanges?
3029892, Great tracks! I dl'd them all
Posted by OKdamn, Tue Jan-26-21 02:37 PM
3029896, Awesome Dre - Executioner Style
Posted by OKdamn, Wed Jan-27-21 01:07 PM
https://youtu.be/kYxQOZxM5LU
3029968, Divine Force - "Holy War" Ghostface jacked this for "Mighty Healthy"
Posted by micMajestic, Mon Feb-01-21 03:39 PM
and "The Grain"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PhX9s3AS0g
3029984, Fire
Posted by OKdamn, Tue Feb-02-21 05:52 PM
3029969, Too Poetic - God Made Me Funky (Grym Reaper from Gravediggaz)
Posted by micMajestic, Mon Feb-01-21 03:46 PM
This brother had always been nice. He had some songs with his brother that were dope as well, I remember seeing them perform on a public access cable show.

3029982, Greg Nice (Nice & Smooth) - Set It Off
Posted by DanSpeak, Tue Feb-02-21 05:33 PM


SO slept on...
https://youtu.be/EIn2CxAKEAQ
3029983, I'm sad that Nice & Smooth and Beatnuts album never happened
Posted by OKdamn, Tue Feb-02-21 05:50 PM
That shit was gonna be ill!
3029985, Paris - Brutal
Posted by OKdamn, Tue Feb-02-21 05:58 PM
Heavy https://youtu.be/y9BmGfwCnGQ
3029992, 991 Volts - Champion of Love.... Mc Royal was dumb nice
Posted by micMajestic, Tue Feb-02-21 09:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb0RQn7wwcc

He had that obnoxious young wordsmith Special Ed/Hiero type vibe.