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Topic subjectCOMMON: LET LOVE (new album)
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3018294, COMMON: LET LOVE (new album)
Posted by , Fri Aug-30-19 08:32 AM
I have been luke warm on the new singles. Perhaps the album in full will have me leaning towards Hot. I really hope so.


album cover looks just like Taylor Swift's with the similar name.


werd.
3018296, His rhymes are so basic now
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Fri Aug-30-19 08:46 AM
Here, here, here, here, here, here we go

I miss the old Lonnie. Guess I’ll keep listening to his old shit.
3018298, yeah pretty much
Posted by benny, Fri Aug-30-19 09:07 AM
some passable production but it's all very forgettable

edit: wanna point out this 5 mic quotable, in the very first song "many many times from mistakes I ran/but I'm just a cake, let me bake goddam"

3018343, RE: yeah pretty much
Posted by xangeluvr, Fri Aug-30-19 11:35 PM
>some passable production but it's all very forgettable
>
>edit: wanna point out this 5 mic quotable, in the very first
>song "many many times from mistakes I ran/but I'm just a cake,
>let me bake goddam"
>
>

I almost shut it off after that line. I DID shut it off after the "Her" song.
3018303, Yea the Swizz song was so fucking weak lyrically.
Posted by Brew, Fri Aug-30-19 10:18 AM
I really liked the aesthetic and video for "Show Me You Love" or whatever that song was called, that song and vid is vintage Comm IMO.

But I had a feeling this album was gonna be heavier on the syrupy, motivational speaker Comm stuff and lighter on the lyrical monster Comm ... which lessens my interest.

I'll still be listening of course, he's my fav MC of all time. But I'm not expecting it to be my cup of tea really.

Thankfully I still have Black America Again to go back to for what I'm looking for.
3018320, RE: Yea the Swizz song was so fucking weak lyrically.
Posted by thebigfunk, Fri Aug-30-19 11:32 AM

>Thankfully I still have Black America Again to go back to for
>what I'm looking for.

I think we should recognize at this point that he (like a lot of artists) kind of move in cycles - so considering that he had a pretty solid run from Nobody's Smiling -> Black America Again, he's probably about due for an album that is a bit less lyrical or a bit heavier on the corniness meter...

-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~
3018328, Oh for sure. And I don't begrudge him that. He's great at that kind of music.
Posted by Brew, Fri Aug-30-19 12:16 PM

>I think we should recognize at this point that he (like a lot
>of artists) kind of move in cycles - so considering that he
>had a pretty solid run from Nobody's Smiling -> Black America
>Again, he's probably about due for an album that is a bit less
>lyrical or a bit heavier on the corniness meter...

That's why I was careful to say that it's "not my cup of tea" rather than "it's terrible !" or something like that. Cause it's not terrible. Common has always made high quality "love" music. And I've enjoyed a good chunk of it. I just don't typically enjoy full albums of that kind of music, personally. At least not from rappers.
3018322, what's odd is that a rap album about different types
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Aug-30-19 11:50 AM
of love was done recently...by a rapper from Chicago no less (Mick Jenkins- The Healing Component)

I mean, I'm assuming that's the theme of this album too based on the title and song titles.


So not only is he apparently going into syrup mode, but he's even repeating his city.

strange



3018325, *Sigh* My sentiments exactly
Posted by MeshaMeesh, Fri Aug-30-19 12:10 PM
>I really liked the aesthetic and video for "Show Me You Love"
>or whatever that song was called, that song and vid is vintage
>Comm IMO.
>
>But I had a feeling this album was gonna be heavier on the
>syrupy, motivational speaker Comm stuff and lighter on the
>lyrical monster Comm ... which lessens my interest.
>
>I'll still be listening of course, he's my fav MC of all time.
>But I'm not expecting it to be my cup of tea really.
>
>Thankfully I still have Black America Again to go back to for
>what I'm looking for.


One thing I can say though - I do like the production. It's kinda close to the mood and sound of the August Greene album, and it took me a couple of listens for it to click and now I love that album a lot. The thing about that AG and "Let Love" is that the mood of the album feels quite somber - and idk why I'm so drawn to it lol.

BUT I really miss the rappity rap Com too... especially on certain songs like "Hercules". I think it would make for a better album overall. Com is introspective in this one, but man, I know he could go waaayyy deeper.

I'm also glad that Burniss Earl Travis II aka Boom Bishop is finally getting the shoutout and major production credit on this one. He played on a handful of projects and songs I really love for the past few years. Looking forward to seeing his career flourish!

I still am trying to figure out how/if I like Samora Pinderhuges. Like on the August Greene album, there are a few tracks where I think he's a perfect fit, and there are others that are "meh" for me. I think it also depends if he sings falsetto too - which I'm not so much a fan of.

So "Let Love" (for me) would be one of the albums I'd put on if I'm looking to hear something slower paced and jazzy soul-influenced (idk how else to describe it, my mind can't think of something better lol).

(fyi - this is after my 2nd listen - I'll be coming back to add on if my feelings change after way more listens)


---

https://twitter.com/MeeshUniVerSoul


"She was on that tip about stoppin' the violence
About my people she was teachin' me..."
3018330, Yea I came around on the AG album, too.
Posted by Brew, Fri Aug-30-19 12:21 PM
>One thing I can say though - I do like the production. It's
>kinda close to the mood and sound of the August Greene album,
>and it took me a couple of listens for it to click and now I
>love that album a lot. The thing about that AG and "Let Love"
>is that the mood of the album feels quite somber - and idk why
>I'm so drawn to it lol.

Yea - somber is the right word for it, for sure. That's the word I've been looking for. The mood is somber and mid-tempo/slow, which is fine. But it's obviously mood music and I have to be in a certain space (I assume most of us would have to be) to really enjoy it and take it in.


>BUT I really miss the rappity rap Com too... especially on
>certain songs like "Hercules". I think it would make for a
>better album overall. Com is introspective in this one, but
>man, I know he could go waaayyy deeper.

Yea exactly. Comm mastered the balance of introspection and lyricism better than anyone in the prime of his career. One Day, LWFC, and Be were just masterful in finding that perfect balance. Nowadays it seems like he kinda chooses one or the other. Which is fine, the music is still mostly good. It's just some albums have better staying power (BAA) than others due to that.


>I'm also glad that Burniss Earl Travis II aka Boom Bishop is
>finally getting the shoutout and major production credit on
>this one. He played on a handful of projects and songs I
>really love for the past few years. Looking forward to seeing
>his career flourish!

Oh I don't know about this dude, at least by name. I'll be sure to check the production credits and look into his music.


>I still am trying to figure out how/if I like Samora
>Pinderhuges. Like on the August Greene album, there are a few
>tracks where I think he's a perfect fit, and there are others
>that are "meh" for me. I think it also depends if he sings
>falsetto too - which I'm not so much a fan of.
>
>So "Let Love" (for me) would be one of the albums I'd put on
>if I'm looking to hear something slower paced and jazzy
>soul-influenced (idk how else to describe it, my mind can't
>think of something better lol).
>
>(fyi - this is after my 2nd listen - I'll be coming back to
>add on if my feelings change after way more listens)

Yea I mean here I am heavy in a thread about music I haven't even heard yet outside of 2 songs lol . So I'll be back once I actually listen to it as well.
3018365, Finally listened yesterday and yea - the rhymes are elementary for sure.
Posted by Brew, Sun Sep-01-19 01:34 PM
And the rhyme schemes.

I think that was by design, as this is more a personal album than a lyrical one, with focus on the grooves and soundscape.

But that said, that's not really an excuse for an entire album IMO. Comm has done the deeply personal songs before and still came with it lyrically. Many times in fact.
3018332, Hercules is dope AF to me
Posted by justin_scott, Fri Aug-30-19 02:38 PM
Show Me That You Love is the best song of the three, and I really like HER Love too. For me, I'm glad that so far this isn't a big let down after Black America Again, which was a near classic.
3018334, Really love it, no complaints here
Posted by IslaSoul, Fri Aug-30-19 05:01 PM

Like the above comments mentioned, very much in the vein of Black America, Again & August Greene.
3018335, I thought it was dope. Quick Fifth Story question
Posted by spirit, Fri Aug-30-19 05:37 PM
Is Fifth Story the Fifth Story Rap in his discography?

Testify and the three part story from the third album where his grandma got robbed.

Did I overlook any story tracks? If not, super hilarious that he called it Fifth Story, especially if that was intentional.

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com
3018353, If you Include Payback is a grandmom from Like Water it makes 5
Posted by Errol Walton Barrow, Sat Aug-31-19 08:44 PM
Story songs. Itd be cool if Fifth Story was that layered.
3018374, Oops yeah the third part wasn’t on One Day, was it?
Posted by spirit, Sun Sep-01-19 09:08 PM
Couldn’t remember. One Day got stolen from me in like 99 and haven’t sat down with that record in a minute.

That’s crazy that it is actually the fifth story rap in his discography.

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
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3018392, I believe it’s stolen moments 1 & 2. Payback on LWFC
Posted by High Society, Mon Sep-02-19 12:58 PM
Testify
Fifth Story (nice triple entendre if that’s what he was going for... fifth floor (story) / it being a story - making it double and then 5th story in his catalog making it triple.

Though - I hardly look at this as Com’s 5th story joint.
Tekzilla is a story.
He incorporates stories in a lot of tracks, maybe not for whole verses or songs
but at least passages... that’s a big reason I loved Common so much.
I Used to Love Her, EC has a couple story joints.
Between Me, You, & Liberation
Star 69
A Song for Assata
3018404, Did everyone forget that there were 3 parts to Stolen Moments ?!
Posted by Brew, Mon Sep-02-19 09:05 PM
LOL.
3018452, there sure is... which means this ain’t his fifth story any way slice it
Posted by High Society, Tue Sep-03-19 12:36 PM
3 on One Day.
Payback
Testify
Fifth story would be at least 6.
A Song for Assata is a story.
Tekzilla

To name a few.
3018463, Ha exactly. I respect digging for deeper meaning but ...
Posted by Brew, Tue Sep-03-19 02:21 PM
... this ain't it.
3018874, either way that song is garbage
Posted by Stadiq, Wed Sep-18-19 04:30 PM
I just don't think storytelling is Common's strength- at least, not like this. When he tries to give the story a twist or some shit...its just not fresh. I hate Testify too.

On top of the general corniness of the track, the lyrics are fucking awful.


sniffing his nuts like an elephant? or whatever...word?



And honestly, after this post, I sort of judge him for not at least calling it 6th story or whatever would have been accurate. It was right there.

The song is pointless. Just like Testify, but with elephants sniffing nuts.




3018339, Off first listen I really like it
Posted by Ishwip, Fri Aug-30-19 07:34 PM
Really like the production.

It's not BARS Com and there's some mild corn here and there, but I appreciate the introspection and perspective he's coming from.
__
I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)
3018345, Common on poetry mode on this one.
Posted by phemom, Sat Aug-31-19 07:48 AM
This is based on his life.....so there's a lot more songwriting and poetry and less BARS this time out.

I find it really smooth compared to some of his last records and no real clunkers....I think this is one you just let play through while your doing things. It's mostly Karriem Riggins producing so you know what you're getting.

Leaders is the standout right now tho....it doesn't sound like something A-Trak would be involved with.

I will admit this tho.....next album I would like some drums lol. After 3 LPs of mostly smooth shit a more basic hip-hop joint would be dope.
3018351, Fifth Story was good
Posted by rashad, Sat Aug-31-19 04:07 PM
the rest was just eh..and considering Little Brother, Jidenna and Raphael Saadiq came out recently, I really don't have patience for mediocre music from Com. Having said that, he's on his 27th year in the rap game, so he's still winning
3018977, Nah... it really wasn’t
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-20-19 11:05 PM
That shit is actually fucking terrible.
3018354, Lush production
Posted by Soulroe, Sun Sep-01-19 12:02 AM
Great for the headphones.

Lyrics were okay.

I liked it.
3018359, he brought dwele out of retirement...what happend to dude? used to be
Posted by Hellyeah, Sun Sep-01-19 05:42 AM
a huge fan of him

great mature album btw, common has very few misses in his discography imo
3018420, he did HER Love at Roots Picnic with Bilal...and now it’s Daniel Caesar?!
Posted by CherNic, Tue Sep-03-19 06:32 AM
FOH
3018489, Hot album!
Posted by tapedeck, Wed Sep-04-19 07:43 AM
Thanks Common!

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
Angela Bofill-Love In Slow Motion
Babyface-Lovers
Midnight Star-Still Standing
3018497, It's not nearly as bad as I was expecting after reading this post...
Posted by Marbles, Wed Sep-04-19 11:09 AM

I agree with whomever said the rhymes have a syrupy motivational speaker feel. But I also think the production on this is very sharp.

It's not his best by any means but it's not a horrible album.

My girl just got his book from the library so I wonder how if there's any sort of cross-promotion or connection between the 2? I don't know anything about the book so that's why I'm asking.
3018500, RE: It's not nearly as bad as I was expecting after reading this post...
Posted by seandammit, Wed Sep-04-19 11:45 AM

> My girl just got his book from the library so I wonder how
>if there's any sort of cross-promotion or connection between
>the 2? I don't know anything about the book so that's why I'm
>asking.

Yes, the album is inspired by the book and they share (almost) the same name.
3018519, This album is buttcheeks.
Posted by jswerve386, Thu Sep-05-19 12:15 AM
3018545, 5th story is Commons worst story to date
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Sep-05-19 04:38 PM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
3018548, This is really bad
Posted by Amritsar, Thu Sep-05-19 05:07 PM
really bad
3018573, Really hard to define who this album is for to be honest
Posted by kwez, Fri Sep-06-19 06:05 AM
Production is nice I'll give it that, but as an entire work it's just beige as fuck
3018589, What's funny is Invocation is his top track on Spotify right now.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-06-19 11:23 AM
https://ibb.co/KGDmH2p

WHich isn't his most popular track. But I justify it as thinking after hearing this folks wanted to hear his harder hitting stuff like that can be found on that album.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
3018590, LOL !
Posted by Brew, Fri Sep-06-19 11:29 AM
3018593, I can def see Common fans hearing this
Posted by High Society, Fri Sep-06-19 12:44 PM
and saying “I need to hear some old Com to forget about this.”
3018690, its okay
Posted by mista k5, Tue Sep-10-19 12:01 PM
its boring but the beats are and hooks are pretty good. i wouldnt say common is bad but just not really a fun or engaging listen. we'll see if it has replay value.
3018691, would it kill Common to have a few joints with BEATS???
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Tue Sep-10-19 12:34 PM



3018716, Did you all not listen to “Leaders”?
Posted by Mello, Wed Sep-11-19 09:14 PM
Or Memories of Home? He RAPS on both of those. I agree as a body of work it leaves a bit to be desired. But there are individual standouts.
3018717, Yeah, those two are dope.
Posted by squeeg, Wed Sep-11-19 11:07 PM
"Forever Your Love" is also good.


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3018721, Ha I actually meant to come back here and rave about "Leaders"
Posted by Brew, Thu Sep-12-19 08:56 AM
I gotta check out "Memories of Home" again but I remember liking that one as well.

But yea. On "Leaders" he's SPITTING and this is proof of what I said in response to someone else in here, that lyrical monster Comm still exists ... we just don't see him as much anymore.
3018741, Who wore Fancy Free Best? Common, Guilty Simpson or Da Original?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-13-19 09:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhqLyRCPvL8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6q6uilXXsQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=nrLa6Fde0f4


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
3018743, Yall read this Common Piece in the New Yorker about him meditating?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-13-19 09:39 AM
And that is the most common-ish post title I've ever written.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/09/16/for-common-self-care-is-the-new-black

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
3018744, What's wrong with meditating ?
Posted by Brew, Fri Sep-13-19 10:46 AM
Ha I did laugh at the headline too tho.
3018871, Ain't nothing wrong with it. It's just a super Common-ish article.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Sep-18-19 04:11 PM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
3018772, wack juice.
Posted by jswerve386, Sat Sep-14-19 07:53 PM
3018837, RE: wack juice.
Posted by spidey, Tue Sep-17-19 02:01 PM
To see one of my rhyme hero's releasing such trash, saddening indeed...
3018993, the more I listen to this album, the more I love it
Posted by justin_scott, Sun Sep-22-19 06:48 PM
not quite on par with Black America Again, but really introspective, and just emotional and dope.
3018995, I like it *shrug*
Posted by DJR, Sun Sep-22-19 09:21 PM
I don’t need rappity rap Common every time out.

This album just feels good.
3019038, right? the harshness in here when it comes to com is beyond
Posted by Hellyeah, Mon Sep-23-19 04:27 PM
played out at this point