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3016682, Verses/lines that COMPLETELY derail the vibe of the rest of the song Posted by Adwhizz, Thu Jun-06-19 06:42 AM
https://youtu.be/u_C4onVrr8U
WTF was with Cole on the last verse of this song?!
The instrumental is a sexy, laid back guitar beat.
Cole's first verse is about trying to get with a chick he had a previous rendezvous with
You got R&B singer Miguel crooning explicitly about wanting to fuck and then in the last verse Cole comes in talking about Kapernick, Police Brutality and President Trump
Way to fuck up the entire mood Cole!
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3016683, Eric Sermon on You Do, I Do (Def Sqaud) Posted by Adwhizz, Thu Jun-06-19 06:52 AM
So the chorus of this song goes:
You drinkin', I'm drinkin' You smokin', I'm smokin' You freakin', I'm freakin' You fuckin', we fuckin' You fucked up, we fucked up We make it, we take it You hate me, I hate you You talk shit, I talk shit
Red and Keith Murray's verses are standard party rap fare about getting girls and shit
So it's incredibly odd Sermon spends the last half of his best talking about being a responsible father to his kids
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3016684, Aka “the father stretch my hands” post... Posted by ob1 kenobi, Thu Jun-06-19 09:56 AM
... always angry he talked about “bleached assholes” in that song
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3016725, DUDE Posted by 15, Sat Jun-08-19 01:04 AM
right after the chorus?
I put the next record on.
also same w Roses. that "auntie team" line irks the shit out of me too
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3016744, Yeah. Plus I could've done without his Wolves verse Posted by DickGrayson, Sat Jun-08-19 02:20 PM
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3016781, RE: Aka “the father stretch my hands” post... Posted by jimaveli, Mon Jun-10-19 12:25 PM
>... always angry he talked about “bleached assholes” in >that song
It sucks cuz it’s basically the best beat on the album and he completely squandered it. Completely.
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3016820, ^ Posted by hardware, Tue Jun-11-19 04:45 PM
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3016961, Haha - better yet, "aka the Kanye West post" Posted by Brew, Sun Jun-16-19 10:53 PM
Cause since dood dropped Cons and them as ghostwriters he's been writing cringeworthy bullshit in just about every song lol.
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3016686, T.I. Live your Life Posted by TR808, Thu Jun-06-19 10:37 AM
got love for the game But ay I'm not in love with all of it Could do without the fame And rappers nowadays are comedy The hootin' and the hollerin' Back and forth with the arguin' Where you from, who you know What you make and what kind of car you in Seems as though you lost sight Of what's important when depositin' Them checks into your bank account And you up out of poverty Your values is a disarray, prioritizin' horribly Unhappy with the riches 'Cause you're piss poor morally Ignorin' all prior advice and forewarnin' And we mighty full of ourselves all of a sudden, aren't we?
Then Rihanna Comes in and says
You're gonna be, a shinin' star In fancy clothes, and fancy cars And then you'll see, you're gonna go far 'Cause everyone knows, just who ya are So live your life (Hey! Ay ay ay) You steady chasin' that paper, just live your life (Oh! Ay ay ay) Ain't got no time for no haters, just live your life
Its like they on completely different songs.
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3016687, Ah, the time-honored “Drink Away the Pain” post Posted by seandammit, Thu Jun-06-19 10:50 AM
Flanked of course by the standard “but Q-Tip’s verse was still dope, just off-topic” comment.
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3016693, lol, first thing that came to mind. Posted by WarriorPoet415, Thu Jun-06-19 12:46 PM
______________________________________________________________________________
"To Each His Reach"
but.....
Fuck aliens.
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3016696, RE: Ah, the time-honored “Drink Away the Pain” post Posted by Eric B Is Prez, Thu Jun-06-19 01:18 PM
^^^
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3016739, First Thing I Thought About But It's Still A Dope Verse... Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Sat Jun-08-19 01:59 AM
...so I always kind of shrug it off as, if it's dope, who cares if it doesn't go along with the theme of the song.
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3016689, "I'm a Israelite, don't call me black no mo" Posted by Hitokiri, Thu Jun-06-19 12:25 PM
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3016690, No matter what the song is about, Jay Z is gonna talk about himself Posted by OKdamn, Thu Jun-06-19 12:31 PM
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3016691, when Fatlip starts his 3rd verse on "4 Better or 4 Worse" ..... Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Thu Jun-06-19 12:35 PM
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3016692, bizarre Posted by mista k5, Thu Jun-06-19 12:40 PM
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3016726, hmmmmmm Posted by 15, Sat Jun-08-19 01:08 AM
truuuue.
BUT.
that shit not only made the verse.....but made The Pharcyde.
as a real time listen to that album. we were fucking JAW dropped.
its almost like that verse made this opposite premise of this post true:
they shoulda rose to his level.
but then again the shock of that verse is what makes THEM them
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3016768, its a memorable verse Posted by mista k5, Mon Jun-10-19 09:36 AM
but soooo different than the other two. i know the first few times i listened to it i would just rock with it but at some point i was like wait......when did the song turn to this?????
gotta love fatlip lol
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3016771, always felt it was unfortunate considering the beat is amazing... Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Mon Jun-10-19 09:56 AM
...when that that beat changed and that first verse drops and the fender rhodes sample comes in (i think its a sample) .. amazing moment right there!!!
This song is well on its way to becoming one of the great "love letter" songs in hip hop.. but then the dream dissolves into a nightmare lol (don't stop it yet!)
Wanted the instrumental for so long to this shit.. finally found it on napster one day and it was worth the wait.
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3016752, Okay, I think we've gone a little bit overboard.. Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Sat Jun-08-19 08:41 PM
...FUCK YOU DON'T CALL MY HOUSE!
Yo, I love that. Ha ha.
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3016785, That was such a great verse. Posted by Numba_33, Mon Jun-10-19 02:20 PM
One of my favorite moments from that album. Fatlip's helter skelter flow on that song reminds me a lot of OBD.
But to get back to your point of Fatlip derailing the song, doesn't the first verse start out on an upbeat note, then moves onto the second verse which hints at a bit of disillusionment, and then progresses to the third verse where the 'relationship' is totally dissolved?
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3016964, This is EXACTLY how I see the song Posted by Mageddon, Mon Jun-17-19 06:44 AM
the first verse start out on an upbeat note, then >moves onto the second verse which hints at a bit of >disillusionment, and then progresses to the third verse where >the 'relationship' is totally dissolved?
Hope Disillusionment Chaos
Fatlip's verse works for me.
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3016970, that's the brilliant thing about the song... Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Mon Jun-17-19 08:17 AM
...at least for me, by the time it turns to chaos you're not really prepared ..the 2nd verse still feels normal to me even though he's hinting at some shit ..but when he dives into the 3rd verse the whole vibe changes into something sinister quickly and you're already fully committed
..it's like a roller coaster ride thats been pretty smooth ..then it dips into some shit that you weren't prepared for .. now it's too late to get the fuck off !!
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3016695, Big Boi's verse on "Dirty South" always sticks out like a sore thumb Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jun-06-19 01:06 PM
It's still one of my favorite songs ever, but Big Boi talking his player shit in the midst of all the serious subject matter always throws me off.
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3016697, Art of Storytellin Posted by Eric B Is Prez, Thu Jun-06-19 01:21 PM
Dre's verse is sad and philosophical about a girl who experiences tragedy
Big Boi's verse is about getting some head in the parking lot in exchange for a free poster
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3016790, I can’t believe they even stayed a group as long as they did Posted by spirit, Mon Jun-10-19 10:10 PM
Even as early as the second album, they were on different planets LOL
Peace,
Spirit (Alan) http://wutangbook.com
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3016791, Ms Jackson is pretty bad too Posted by Anonymous, Mon Jun-10-19 10:46 PM
Dre is all apologetic and taking responsibility and Big Boi is telling his ex that her girl was sucking his dick and that she and her mama can get the hell out.
Lol
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3017295, Slick Rick's verse on the remix was the perfect middle ground Posted by Garhart Poppwell, Thu Jun-27-19 09:11 PM
between the two, that song sounds so much better with him on it. He has my favorite verse as well.
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3016699, Both of the examples above are exactly what you’d hear at Stank. Posted by JFrost1117, Thu Jun-06-19 03:24 PM
Or The Dungeon at the time. I’ve never been around multiple DF niggas that can hold the same convo with each other.
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3016717, Tim Doggg's 2nd verse on 'Get Wrecked' Posted by spenzalii, Fri Jun-07-19 07:27 PM
KRS just finished ripping the track a new one and topped it off with the little patois, and Tim comes in with 'Baby, Baby, ummm... maybe, mabe, ummm...'
I cut the song off after KRS finishes
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3016727, Tim Dog had a verse? Posted by 15, Sat Jun-08-19 01:09 AM
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3016740, Tragedy details the entire War Report Posted by Anonymous, Sat Jun-08-19 09:59 AM
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3016745, It might just be me, but Cam's verse on Gone always gets skipped Posted by DickGrayson, Sat Jun-08-19 02:22 PM
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3016969, I skip it too Posted by spirit, Mon Jun-17-19 08:13 AM
I skip Cam on Banned for TV too. His energy level is lower than everyone on there, like he just woke up from a nap.
Peace,
Spirit (Alan) http://wutangbook.com
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3016747, Devins verse on Scarface Fuck faces Posted by ry 213, Sat Jun-08-19 07:44 PM
I mean it was on topic with the rest of the song but it was so dirty that the entire verse was cut out of the radio version.
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3016780, RE: Devins verse on Scarface Fuck faces Posted by jimaveli, Mon Jun-10-19 12:24 PM
>I mean it was on topic with the rest of the song but it was >so dirty that the entire verse was cut out of the radio >version.
It was so amazingly Houston tho so it’s perfect. Tela has to swing in on a rope for the video version. Good times overall. It’s high up on the list of ‘can’t play it around kids’ regardless.
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3016751, Kanye on Common's "Southside" Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Sat Jun-08-19 08:38 PM
Such a great beat ruined by a horrible chorus.
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3016753, Add They Say Posted by Anonymous, Sat Jun-08-19 08:52 PM
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3016754, WhEEEELs....stEEEEEEL Posted by DJR, Sat Jun-08-19 09:15 PM
Sweet taste of victory, go head breathe it in like antihistamine, I knew they saying Damn Ye you snapped on this beat, fuck you expect? I got a history
Lol. I was with it until the high pitched wheels/steel part.
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3016962, Ughhhhhhhhhhhhh yes 100%. Posted by Brew, Sun Jun-16-19 10:56 PM
Ruined what was otherwise a pretty perfect song.
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3016990, The leaked version had Consequence instead and was much much better Posted by BSharp, Mon Jun-17-19 09:00 PM
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3016994, OMG THAT'S RIGHT ... I totally forgot about that Posted by Brew, Mon Jun-17-19 10:03 PM
It was soooo much better.
I also remember the original "It's Your World" was a little more stripped down. I came to love the album version but I recall preferring the original for a while. Think it was something w/the drums that Dilla ultimately added to the final version.
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3017185, the version with cons is so better Posted by Small Pro, Tue Jun-25-19 10:49 AM
wish i hadn't heard it
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3016763, Red & Meth on "Left & Right"; Rick Ross on "Devil in a New Dress" Posted by bills, Sun Jun-09-19 02:49 PM
Red & Meth throw off the album experience way more than they throw off the song though...I recognize the L&R is supposed to be a gritty, nasty funk record...but it would have better served the project as a whole to be a bit more subtle. Also, Ricky's verse on DiaND has its moments, but pretty often, as soon as I hear "Lookin' at my b*tch, I bet she give ya ass a bone", I just snap out of the state that song puts me in and fall back to earth. Not a huge Drake fan, but it shoulda been him on that feature...that topic woulda been his bread n butter.
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3016765, Left & Right should’ve featured OutKast Posted by Anonymous, Sun Jun-09-19 11:00 PM
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3016777, I wake up every morning holding my dick.... Posted by phemom, Mon Jun-10-19 12:02 PM
...everyday like I know I'm the shit and you ain't fucking with me.
Joe Scudda on Little Brother's "Lovin' It".
Phonte's verse is happy, the sample is happy and Joe instantly throws the song off. I don't really know why Joe was on LB's first single at all compared to everyone else in the Justice League at the time.
It's not that I dislike Scudda's work....but man he was a bad fit on that song IMO.
https://youtu.be/vLReIhRgVS8
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3016991, Hated that verse. Posted by BSharp, Mon Jun-17-19 09:00 PM
Ruined the song for me.
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3016782, RE: Verses/lines that COMPLETELY derail the vibe of the rest of the song Posted by spidey, Mon Jun-10-19 12:48 PM
Mine...Danny Brown ruins it imo, the slowed down tone of the beat kills the energy, and not really diggin Danny here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LINt9Fq2c8E
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3016793, RE: Verses/lines that COMPLETELY derail the vibe of the rest of the song Posted by seandammit, Tue Jun-11-19 01:55 AM
I've listened to this song probably 100 times in my life, and only heard the third verse like 5 times.
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3016812, "Nina Simone, Defecating on the Microphone" Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Jun-11-19 02:24 PM
Rhymes but the imagery of that always threw me off.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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3016813, Kanye West Father Stretch My Hands "bleach verse" Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Jun-11-19 02:25 PM
damn near ruins a near perfect song.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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3016916, Nas ruining I Gave You Power Posted by j., Fri Jun-14-19 01:39 PM
He's the undisputed GOAT but "it's like, like...I'm a gun" completely kills the premise in fact the whole monologue is ass
We didn't need to be told you were rhyming from the perspective of a firearm smarten up, Nas
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3016918, that song could use a primo scratch section as well... Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Fri Jun-14-19 01:46 PM
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3016967, My newborn gon' drink milk from his mama's breast (c) Witchdoctor Posted by JFrost1117, Mon Jun-17-19 08:01 AM
Followed up by "If this was Vietnam, I'd gook you!" in the same verse.
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3016987, What's wrong with the first verse? Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Jun-17-19 03:16 PM
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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3016992, It’s the jarring factor coming after the bars before it. Posted by JFrost1117, Mon Jun-17-19 09:17 PM
It zigs when you expect a zag.
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3016968, Buckshot had this line about “Black Zulu b words” Posted by spirit, Mon Jun-17-19 08:11 AM
That line is like a record screech to me. No one ever asked him about that colorist bullshit.
Ditto for Kane and that “women of a light skinned breed, you got you got you got what I need” back in the Afrocentric era, but the Buck line felt worst/extra disrespectful
Peace,
Spirit (Alan) http://wutangbook.com
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3016972, Dru Ha "I always get the pussy cuz I tell em that I'm Spanish" Posted by j., Mon Jun-17-19 09:10 AM
Not the first or the last to front but to hear it was like "oh, you're one of them"
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3017013, they also let him slide with saying nigga Posted by kevb, Tue Jun-18-19 12:47 PM
Andrew.
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3017012, as much as you're right, that has always been a dope ass line for me Posted by kevb, Tue Jun-18-19 12:44 PM
ALWAYS.
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3016988, Kane - “I take them 8 to 80, dumb, crippled, and crazy” on I Get the Job Done Posted by DJR, Mon Jun-17-19 04:31 PM
So bad. He even had to address it about how he was just kidding on “Cause I Can Do It Right.” How hard would’ve been to say “18 to 80” in the first place?
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3017143, ^ Posted by mikediggz, Mon Jun-24-19 08:41 AM
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3017160, Common on Real People Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Mon Jun-24-19 02:46 PM
The line about interracial dating threw me for a loop. I listened to the song for the longest but that line never sat well with me.
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3017169, Yea Common was on that tip a couple times. Posted by Brew, Mon Jun-24-19 07:46 PM
"Downtown interracial couples hold hands/ I breathe heavy like a old man wit a cold can of Old Style" - Hungry
Think there was another example or two I can't think of right now but he's since stepped back from that perspective in interviews and such.
I think there was a no-name rapper or rap group who took issue with that line in "Real People" shortly after it was released, and dissed Common over it ... though I can't remember who it was. Think they used the "Real People" beat for the diss too. It was pretty weak haha but they did an interview or two about it and explained why it bothered them so much. Not sure if Comm ever responded.
Comm also had the F-bomb line in "Dooinit" that is super cringeworthy to listen to now. But it doesn't ruin the song cause the song is that good lol.
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3017171, RE: Yea Common was on that tip a couple times. Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Mon Jun-24-19 08:22 PM
>"Downtown interracial couples hold hands/ >I breathe heavy like a old man wit a cold can of Old Style" - >Hungry > >Think there was another example or two I can't think of right >now but he's since stepped back from that perspective in >interviews and such. > >I think there was a no-name rapper or rap group who took issue >with that line in "Real People" shortly after it was released, >and dissed Common over it ... though I can't remember who it >was. Think they used the "Real People" beat for the diss too. >It was pretty weak haha but they did an interview or two about >it and explained why it bothered them so much. Not sure if >Comm ever responded. > >Comm also had the F-bomb line in "Dooinit" that is super >cringeworthy to listen to now. But it doesn't ruin the song >cause the song is that good lol.
Not that I have the right to comment on anyone's preferences but I remember hearing Common admit to having some sort of a relationship with a white woman at some point.
He didn't say if it was a hookup or if it happened after he recorded Real People. It makes sense. He's on the road and likely playing the field, at least early in his career. But maybe he felt conflicted about interracial dating in the time period around LWFC/Be.
The Dooinit is textbook record scratch material. I can only listen to the edited version of that song. I probably shouldn't listen to that song at all now, but that song is tough outside of that part.
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3017161, kanye west is not a good rapper Posted by makaveli, Mon Jun-24-19 04:08 PM
he never has been. even when his music was good, his rapping wasn't.
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3017178, Cappadonna on "Lil Ghetto Boy" Posted by mrhood75, Tue Jun-25-19 01:01 AM
Raekwon starts off with a verse cautioning the youth against getting caught up in the street life. Then Cappadonna comes in and dedicates his verse to rappers talking trash and not backing it up.
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