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Topic subjectIGOR - Tyler, The Creator (2019)
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3016286, IGOR - Tyler, The Creator (2019)
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Fri May-17-19 03:58 PM
IGOR
all songs written, produced and arranged by tyler okonma

1 Igor's Theme Featuring – Lil Uzi Vert
2 Earfquake Featuring – Charlie Wilson, Devonte Hynes, Playboi Carti
3 I Think
4 Exactly What You Run From You End Up Chasing
5 Running Out Of Time Featuring – Frank Ocean
6 New Magic Wand Featuring – ASAP Rocky, Santigold
7 A Boy Is A Gun
8 Puppet Featuring – Kanye West
9 What's Good
10 Gone, Gone / Thank You Featuring – King Krule, Mild High Club
11 I Don't Love You Anymore Featuring – Ryan Beatty
12 Are We Still Friends? Featuring – Pharrell Williams
3016287, its dope
Posted by mista k5, Fri May-17-19 04:12 PM
i need to give it more listens. this album should get him the #1 spot of current popular rappers. not much rapping on it though lol

it kind of reminded me of de la's anonymous that it was about making some dope music and having rap when it called for it.
3016288, awaiting Dr. Claw's thoughts.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Fri May-17-19 04:21 PM
I haven't listened yet.
But from the clips I've heard on Instagram,
sounds like another ode to N.E.R.D. (maybe?).
3016311, Can't wait to play this in the ride
Posted by Adwhizz, Sat May-18-19 07:06 AM
Listened it to twice last night and dug it heavily

The first few tracks sound like N.E.R.D. shit, and the beginning of Puppet is pure Andre 3000.

Good to see Charlie Wilson has been getting recognized and being used on so many projects lately

3016312, Also, BOOOOOOO @ Amazon not having the features listed
Posted by Adwhizz, Sat May-18-19 07:11 AM
I caught Charlie and Kanye West the first time I listened, didn't know who a lot of those people were
3016315, I lack the words to express my venomous hatred for this.
Posted by stone_phalanges, Sat May-18-19 10:05 AM
To put it lightly I am not a fan of rappers who do not rap. Nothing against anyone that is into this sort of behavior from rappers.

I am disgusted.


END.
3016365, *stands in this line*
Posted by Oak27, Tue May-21-19 11:09 AM
3016596, Is he still a rapper?
Posted by snacks, Sun Jun-02-19 09:14 PM
Or maybe that's a box we're trying to keep him in, idk
3016607, Yes he is a rapper. Wanna know how I know?
Posted by stone_phalanges, Mon Jun-03-19 10:09 AM
Cuz only rappers do that self hating BS about "growing" and "expanding" and exploring new blah blah blah garbage. If he was any other artist doing any other type of music he could do that for the next 50 years and get respect. Rappers however somehow feel like they are too good to just rap and need to expand into terrible R and B for some sort of validation.

It sickens me. The lack of respect for rap as an artform permeates hiphop culture almost more than any other place. I have no respect for artist who do this. None.

We live in a world where a hip hop artist can do a bad Nine inch Nails impression and get respect and accolades for his "artistry" and "genius" instead of being derided and shunned as they should.

Rapper who do this should rethink their lack of respect for themselves and their art.
3016621, LOL just don't listen to it my man !
Posted by Brew, Mon Jun-03-19 08:50 PM
Whew - that was venomous ! He's not even that good of a rapper my dude. Just move on to something w/rapping. It's not that serious.

Haha I mean I get we all take our music pretty seriously but this was next level. And for Tyler ?! He's not even that good !
3016647, You're right.
Posted by stone_phalanges, Tue Jun-04-19 04:08 PM
3016624, Did 3K start this?
Posted by Adwhizz, Tue Jun-04-19 04:39 AM
Love Below seems to be the first time I remember a (Dope) rapper putting out a project with mostly singing, and after that he seemed to be bored with rap, only dropping a verse or 2 a year now.
3016676, A lot of that 3K shit was MEDIOCRE AF
Posted by isaaaa, Wed Jun-05-19 05:08 PM

Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
http://Tupreme.com
3016613, but he's also been a producer his entire career
Posted by wrecknoble, Mon Jun-03-19 01:55 PM
so why can't he flex that side? he produced literally everything on this album and Flower Boy.
3016615, so let somebody else rap on it.
Posted by stone_phalanges, Mon Jun-03-19 03:01 PM
The lack of rap is my problem with this. Also, the idea that his (pretty good) rapping is in any way comparable to his(absolutely terrible) singing.

It's like, would anyone champion the genre bending forwardness of a Billie Eilish album filled with horrible raps?

The response to this type of crap says more about how people feel about rap than anything else.
3016616, i see your point, but i still enjoy this project
Posted by wrecknoble, Mon Jun-03-19 03:45 PM
there's a vibe about it that i'm feeling

i don't think i'd go see him perform this live though (his tour tickets go on sale on Friday), but i rushed to see him for the Flower Boy tour because he killed that album
3016321, Really digging this.
Posted by Kosa12, Sat May-18-19 09:41 PM
it's a left turn for him in terms of not being an album focused on rapping, yet it makes a lot of sense as a next step for him in light of stuff like "See You Again" and "Glitter" on Flower Boy. He is obviously not the greatest singer, but I think his limitations give the album a quirky feeling that meshes really well with the production (the beats here are fantastic). the vocal layering/arrangements/background vocals here are beautiful. I like the entire album, but really loving "Earfquake", and "New Magic Wand" right now.
3016323, I totally agree...
Posted by ob1 kenobi, Sat May-18-19 10:56 PM
... not the best vocalist - but the arrangements are really good, and that gives his mediocre vocals a natural feeling. This was the album I was expecting after watching the tiny desk concert... surprised how much I dug it after a couple of listens
3016326, this is a lot like that new solange album
Posted by Hellyeah, Sun May-19-19 08:32 AM
just with terrible vocals
3016363, 1st listen, solid.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Tue May-21-19 10:05 AM
Igor's Theme
Earfquake
I Think (the beat change...woo)
What's Good

are the standouts.
3016516, #1 on Billboard 200
Posted by Dr Claw, Wed May-29-19 11:57 AM
beat out Khaled and his cavalcade of stars by about 300K streams off "Earfquake".

so, really, you don't need to take it from me, right?

well... here it is.

I stayed up late to hear this album upon release, through computer speakers and about 5 songs in I was like "WTF, is Tyler gonna actually go through an album not rapping?" later that morning while in the Volvo and during the day I listened it to a few times more and I was just floored.

to be fair, my favorite Tyler album is still probably WOLF but I saw something like this album coming when "Fucking Young" was the first single off CHERRY BOMB, an album many disliked but I personally loved. So much I bought it again just to get the instrumentals.

and to also be fair, I was once a person who called Odd Future "OMGWTFKTA" at the peak of their hype, largely because a dillweed on here was endlessly shitposting about them. If you told me a Pharrell disciple who rapped about the kind of stuff he did back in the BASTARD and GOBLIN days would be one of my favorite artists of all time back in 2011-12 I would have laughed in your face. But here we are.

Tyler has, since that point, found a way to reinvent himself but retain some core aesthetic ever since that point. each album, even if you find a connecting thread, has its own "universe". This was something the greats would do. In fact, I think he's surpassed his idol (Pharrell) in that regard. One thing that still boggles my mind about him is how he gets the guests he does. When Pharrell first appeared on a Tyler song I wondered if Tyler was finally getting "noticed by senpai". But he's appeared multiple times. He's had Charlie Wilson, Roy Ayers, Erykah Badu, Alice Smith, Leon freakin' Ware, and countless others like my dogg Toro y Moi on his albums. Many of whom I never thought would appear on an album by this guy. But here we are.


So with IGOR... we come out of the revealing, somewhat depressive undertones of FLOWER BOY into tales of heartbreak cascading over most of the length of this album. As he tends to do, Tyler wears his influences on his sleeves: you're brought to think of Pharrell with "EARFQUAKE" (featuring a returning Charlie Wilson). Classic Kanye (before the red hats, erratic Tweets, and bleach on the T-Shirt) on "A BOY IS A GUN"... while the ACTUAL Kanye shows up in the background of the rather messy "Puppet". You even get the latest iteration of the classic "Tyler hype track" in "What's Good" (think: the "Domo23", "Who Dat Boy", "Yonkers" type song), a reminder that while it isn't the focus, Tyler still raps. The closer, "Can We Be Friends?" calls to mind... late '70s PRINCE trying to do other late '70s R&B. Speaking of Prince, Tyler's also doing the "speed up the voice" thing on several tracks that would make one think of that "Camille" era of Prince, but on Tyler it kind of makes him sound like a lil kid.

Owing something to hanging out with Solange (on whose last album he makes a production cameo), he weaves Jerrod Carmichael offering testimonial comments in a way that reminded me of Master P getting airtime on A SEAT AT THE TABLE. Besides "Earfquake", "Running Out Of Time", "A Boy Is A Gun", my favorite song is "Gone, Gone / Thank You", featuring King Krule. In particular, the middle part with the ill chord progression and Tyler actually rapping one of the more sober moments of the album.

This might also be the shortest Tyler album ever. Does it even hit 40 minutes before you're back at the top again? In any case, we've got a certified winner in IGOR, and I can't wait to see what he does next.
3016558, this post makes me want to check it out
Posted by Stadiq, Fri May-31-19 03:26 PM

Appreciate your thoughts...
3016630, absolutely flawless review...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Tue Jun-04-19 12:17 PM
..you might wanna make a career of this, Doc.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
3016557, full album credits (for those who care):
Posted by wrecknoble, Fri May-31-19 02:40 PM
01 IGOR’S THEME

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Symere Woods (aka Lil Uzi Vert) & Tyler Okonma
Lyricist: Symere Woods & Tyler Okonma
Assistant Engineer: Ben Fletcher, John Armstrong, MeMiceElfani, Rob Bisel & Zachary Acosta
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator & Lil Uzi Vert
Background Vocals: Anthony Evans, Amanda Brown & Tiffany Stevenson
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue
Recording Engineer: Tyler Okonma & Vic Wainstein

02 EARFQUAKE

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Jordan Carter (aka Playboi Carti) & Tyler Okonma
Lyricist: Jordan Carter & Tyler Okonma
Assistant Engineer: Ashley Jacobson & Thomas Cullison
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator & Playboi Carti
Background Vocals: Charlie Wilson & Jessy Wilson
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue
Recording Engineer: Tyler Okonma & Vic Wainstein

03 I THINK

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Bibi Mascel, Tyler Okonma & Bodiono Nkono Télesphore
Lyricist: Bibi Mascel & Tyler Okonma
Assistant Engineer: MeMiceElfani, Rob Bisel & Zachary Acosta
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator
Background Vocals: Ryan Beatty, Anthony Evans, Amanda Brown & Tiffany Stevenson
Additional Vocals: Solange
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue
Recording Engineer: Tyler Okonma & Vic Wainstein

04 EXACTLY WHAT YOU RUN FROM YOU END UP CHASING

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Tyler Okonma
Lyricist: Tyler Okonma
Assistant Engineer: MeMiceElfani, Zachary Acosta
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator
Additional Vocals: Santigold & Jerrod Carmichael
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue

05 RUNNING OUT OF TIME

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Tyler Okonma
Lyricist: Tyler Okonma
Assistant Engineer: Josh Sellers, MeMiceElfani & Zachary Acosta
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator
Background Vocals: Jessy Wilson
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue
Recording Engineer: Tyler Okonma & Vic Wainstein

06 NEW MAGIC WAND

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Tyler Okonma
Lyricist: Tyler Okonma
Assistant Engineer: Josh Sellers, MeMiceElfani & Zachary Acosta
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator
Background Vocals: Santigold & Jessy Wilson
Additional Vocals: Jerrod Carmichael
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue
Recording Engineer: Tyler Okonma & Vic Wainstein

07 A BOY IS A GUN

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Tyler Okonma, Bobby Dukes, Bobby Massey & Lester Allen Mckenzie
Lyricist: Tyler Okonma, Bobby Dukes, Bobby Massey & Lester Allen Mckenzie
Assistant Engineer: Josh Sellers, MeMiceElfani & Zachary Acosta
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator
Background Vocals: Solange
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue
Recording Engineer: Tyler Okonma & Vic Wainstein

08 PUPPET

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Tyler Okonma, David Smith, Mick Ware & Kanye West
Lyricist: Tyler Okonma, David Smith & Kanye West
Assistant Engineer: MeMiceElfani & Zachary Acosta
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator & Kanye West
Background Vocals: Santigold & Jessy Wilson
Additional Vocals: Jerrod Carmichael
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue
Recording Engineer: Tyler Okonma & Vic Wainstein

09 WHAT’S GOOD

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Tyler Okonma
Lyricist: Tyler Okonma
Assistant Engineer: Rob Bisel, MeMiceElfani & Zachary Acosta
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator
Additional Vocals: Slowthai & Jerrod Carmichael
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue
Recording Engineer: Tyler Okonma & Vic Wainstein

10 GONE, GONE / THANK YOU

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Alan O'Day, Cullen Omori, Tatsuro Yamashita, Tyler Okonma
Lyricist: Alan O'Day, Cullen Omori, Tatsuro Yamashita & Tyler Okonma
Assistant Engineer: Thomas Cullison, MeMiceElfani & Zachary Acosta
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator
Background Vocals: CeeLo Green, La Roux, Jessy Wilson, Anthony Evans, Amanda Brown & Tiffany Stevenson
Additional Vocals: Jerrod Carmichael
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue
Recording Engineer: Tyler Okonma & Vic Wainstein

11 I DON’T LOVE YOU ANYMORE

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Tyler Okonma
Lyricist: Tyler Okonma
Assistant Engineer: MeMiceElfani & Zachary Acosta
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator
Background Vocals: Solange, Charlie Wilson & Jessy Wilson
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue
Recording Engineer: Tyler Okonma & Vic Wainstein

12 ARE WE STILL FRIENDS?

Producer: Tyler, The Creator
Composer: Tyler Okonma & Al Green
Lyricist: Tyler Okonma & Al Green
Assistant Engineer: MeMiceElfani & Zachary Acosta
Associated Performer: Tyler, The Creator
Background Vocals: Pharrell Williams
Mastering Engineer: Mike Bozzi
Mixing Engineer: NealHPogue
Recording Engineer: Vic Wainstein
3016664, so that's where Lil Uzi Vert appears.
Posted by Dr Claw, Wed Jun-05-19 12:25 PM
I was wondering, lol.
3016572, Tyler almost got my roommate sexually assaulted. Fuck him for life
Posted by justin_scott, Fri May-31-19 10:33 PM
His homie put my roommate in a very uncomfortable position and said and did nothing. Luckily, she didn't get assaulted or raped, but she's still bothered by it and it was years ago. I can never support anything this dude does.
3016677, So only 3.5 mics?
Posted by isaaaa, Wed Jun-05-19 05:11 PM

Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
http://Tupreme.com
3016679, this was one of those moments where laughing is inappropriate
Posted by Ray_Snill, Wed Jun-05-19 07:35 PM
but dang this reply was funny



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3016705, good to know you're also a piece of shit
Posted by justin_scott, Thu Jun-06-19 07:17 PM
good to know who thinks women being assaulted is funny.
3016704, good job laughing at an assault of a women
Posted by justin_scott, Thu Jun-06-19 07:16 PM
you must be a real piece of shit in real life.
3016715, RE: So only 3.5 mics?
Posted by hammam, Fri Jun-07-19 06:35 PM
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3016769, I'm still mad
Posted by stone_phalanges, Mon Jun-10-19 09:39 AM