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3013026, New Pete Rock - Return of the SP12000 (2019)
Posted by BlakStaar, Fri Jan-04-19 03:22 PM
Pete Rock just announced this on social media this week. He is quite active on Instagram, which is both pretty cool and hilarious at times.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsI0P-snNCA/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsNmqGCndbk/

J.Rocc is involved, too: https://www.instagram.com/p/BsJQBC0l8ha/

The SP1200 instrumental LP features beats from 1990-87-98 that he never used. All scratches and excerpts are by J Rocc. Petestrumentals 3 and a new Skyzoo album are coming soon, too.

https://ambrosiaforheads.com/2019/01/pete-rock-return-sp1200-instrumental-beat-album/
3013027, dope
Posted by mista k5, Fri Jan-04-19 04:07 PM
really looking forward to the album with skyzoo.
3013028, Tight
Posted by Ishwip, Fri Jan-04-19 04:19 PM

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)
3013033, If this has the beats he's teased on IG in the past...
Posted by Nabs, Fri Jan-04-19 05:25 PM
it might be my AOTY.
3013047, That's Exactly What I Was Thinking
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jan-04-19 09:35 PM
In the past six months he has played some real dope shit straight from his SP1200 that had me hyped, I remember even saying a few times on his timeline that he needs to put out another instrumental album on Redefintion Records with those beats he was showcasing.

Now it's in the works, glad he's still motivated to bless us with more unreleased treats.

All we need now is for him & C.L. to do another album together.


3013039, Hold up, Pete doing Sky's WHOLE ALBUM?!?
Posted by phemom, Fri Jan-04-19 07:02 PM
I thought Sky would get like a song or 2, but that's great!
3015561, Thas gonna be FIRE!
Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Thu Apr-25-19 04:27 PM
3013040, aw yeah
Posted by Options, Fri Jan-04-19 07:12 PM
bring it on, Pete
3013073, Damnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Posted by Brew, Sat Jan-05-19 01:54 PM
I wish all the 90s producers would do this. Dre/Preem/Pete/QTip/etc. all have to have some INCREDIBLE cutting room/vault shit that we all deserve to hear.
3013083, instant cop
Posted by Garhart Poppwell, Sun Jan-06-19 08:27 PM
3013087, SP Pete = APEX PREDATOR
Posted by liveguy, Mon Jan-07-19 09:16 AM
The best...hands down.
3013090, Pete and Sky???? Yes, please.
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Jan-07-19 10:40 AM
.
3013111, YO!!!!!
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Mon Jan-07-19 01:19 PM
3013119, Rejects/beats I never did nothing with
Posted by Ishwip, Mon Jan-07-19 05:49 PM
Crazy what he or rappers from that era considered not good enough for an album.

Assuming it's some of the stuff he's posted on Instagram in the past this will be an easy win. And if it includes some of those Future Flavas joints? Pffft, game over, man!

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)
3013124, SkyZoo was at Pete Rock's crib this week...
Posted by BlakStaar, Mon Jan-07-19 11:40 PM
https://twitter.com/skyzoo/status/1082032720241479681

3013219, sky x pete
Posted by Small Pro, Mon Jan-14-19 04:54 PM
is a match made in heaven for a whole album
3014205, Pete Rock - Return of the SP12000 "Tour"
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Tue Feb-26-19 10:36 AM
https://www.facebook.com/events/hiphophu/pete-rock-return-of-the-sp1200-tour-budapest/767207153658905/

Theres a date for April.. hope this means the LP is dropping shortly...

3014212, Warming himself up in Budapest...
Posted by , Tue Feb-26-19 02:16 PM
Excited for this.


werd.
3014960, April 12, y’all
Posted by BlakStaar, Sat Mar-30-19 01:08 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bvj6AO4HZcp/
3014966, RE: April 12, y’all
Posted by BlakStaar, Sat Mar-30-19 07:37 PM
I went back and read his Instagram post and realized this is Pete's first release on his own label, Tru Soul.

The website's description is "The Official Store and Record Label of Pete Rock."
https://www.trusoulnyc.com/

I hope someone asks him about why he started this venture in an interview soon. I support it; I'm curious as to what led to the decision. It was probably a long time coming.
3015000, 🤦🏻‍♂️the ports on the sp1200 on the cover art....
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Mon Apr-01-19 08:08 AM
....also, is that the Jerky Boys behind him?




3015010, RE: 🤦🏻‍♂️the ports on the sp1200 on the cover art....
Posted by BlakStaar, Mon Apr-01-19 11:35 AM
LOL. I bet Pete Rock saw that and said, “I’m going to let that slide.”

The caricatures do look like the Jerky Boys, and the logos on their hats seem to confirm it.
3015011, RE: 🤦🏻‍♂️the ports on the sp1200 on the cover art....
Posted by BlakStaar, Mon Apr-01-19 11:35 AM
LOL. I bet Pete Rock saw that and said, “I’m going to let that slide.”

The caricatures do look like the Jerky Boys, and the logos on their hats seem to confirm it.
3014964, Conway’s done some work with Pete Rock lately.
Posted by High Society, Sat Mar-30-19 07:13 PM
Pete has got a beat on the new Flee Lord album as well.
3015046, Let's not forget that he and Premier...
Posted by The Wordsmith, Tue Apr-02-19 06:12 PM
....have been doing the beats for the next De La Soul album. Looks like we're in for a plethora of PR beats soon.
3015411, Looking forward to hearing it. Will buy the cd when available
Posted by normal35762, Fri Apr-19-19 12:50 PM
3015507, RE: Looking forward to hearing it. Will buy the cd when available
Posted by BlakStaar, Tue Apr-23-19 01:55 PM
April 26. I’ve seen available for preorder on Amazon and Target. Saw some eBay sellers promoting CD sales, too.

3015500, when is it going to streaming?
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Tue Apr-23-19 07:55 AM
3015502, i would assume when the CD drops...very strange rollout
Posted by liveguy, Tue Apr-23-19 08:14 AM
3015508, RE: i would assume when the CD drops...very strange rollout
Posted by BlakStaar, Tue Apr-23-19 02:08 PM
I don’t think it’s all that strange considering the way the music industry is these days, e.g. surprise albums, etc.

Everyone is just kind of doing their own thing, trying out new shit. Perhaps delaying the streaming release made the RSD vinyl release feel more exclusive, in demand?

One trend I don’t like is how physical releases don’t come out until after streaming/digital purchases have been out for some time. I’ve seen delays between digital availability and physical release that spanned MONTHS. I’m not talking about surprise digital-exclusive releases, of course.

I don’t like paying for the same album twice, unless it’s deliberate or intentional, or if I really, really, really like the artist and want to support them.

I also don’t like how the vinyl format is often available before CD instead of the same time. I understand that vinyl is the physical format of choice at the moment but CDs are cheap and easy to produce swiftly.

Example: Marvin Gaye’s You’re the Man LP dropped in March (and is sold out or on back order on most major sites). The CD ain’t coming out to this Friday, April 26. SMH.

3015559, tomorrow it should be streaming everywhere...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Thu Apr-25-19 12:10 PM
...cant wait to hear this shit ...gonna pick up the wax if its dope

3015562, Dope! And you ain't lyin about Pete's Gram....
Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Thu Apr-25-19 04:28 PM
He be havin some funny azz shit on his Gram a lot.



3015563, Pete is my all time favorite, but I’m not a big instrumentals album fan
Posted by DJR, Thu Apr-25-19 05:57 PM
Wish there was some vocals on this.
3015572, a few are from unreleased remixes...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Fri Apr-26-19 08:46 AM
...Nas and Redman i believe



3015625, Which one is the Redman one? n/m
Posted by phemom, Mon Apr-29-19 10:43 AM
3015744, damn, Redman not on there, just street dreams remix for Nas..
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Thu May-02-19 01:45 PM
...heres the Redman remix though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWWGvWS7bas




3016084, RE: damn, Redman not on there, just street dreams remix for Nas..
Posted by djfilthyrich, Tue May-07-19 03:58 AM
>...heres the Redman remix though
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWWGvWS7bas
>
>
>
>
>

Are you sure the Redman remix beat is on there? I can't hear a beat that sounds like that one on the album
3016086, RE: damn, Redman not on there, just street dreams remix for Nas..
Posted by djfilthyrich, Tue May-07-19 04:40 AM
>...heres the Redman remix though
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWWGvWS7bas
>
>
>
>
>

Nevermind, I just saw your post title saying that the Redman wasn't on there. Pete said he intends to drop more projects like this since this one was a success, so hopefully more Future Flavas beats will find their way onto those....
3015564, youtube link
Posted by The3rdOne, Thu Apr-25-19 07:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Od86P6aOE&t=2273s
3015565, dayum this is nice
Posted by , Thu Apr-25-19 08:56 PM
thanks for the liank

werd.
3015568, young pete was an animal
Posted by The3rdOne, Thu Apr-25-19 11:36 PM
3015570, Harps of Heaven!!!! MY GOD!!!!
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Fri Apr-26-19 08:36 AM
3015576, this is great..at this point in their careers, if possible, all the ogs
Posted by Hellyeah, Fri Apr-26-19 12:02 PM
should just open up their vaults...their scraps from the 90s/early 2000s are pretty often better than anything they've put out recently
3015580, AGREED!
Posted by chincheckin, Fri Apr-26-19 12:33 PM
3015584, Agreed. If anything....
Posted by The Wordsmith, Fri Apr-26-19 04:01 PM
....they should go listen to that old stuff for inspiration to get back to what made them so great in the first place.


Since 1976
3015583, Started streaming right before coming here.
Posted by The Wordsmith, Fri Apr-26-19 03:59 PM
I'm on "Harps of Heaven" and I'm already digging it.



Since 1976
3015585, Came here to ask if it was finally streaming.
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Fri Apr-26-19 05:47 PM
Thanks for mentioning that.
3015589, Soul Survivor 2 was and is kinda underrated
Posted by DJR, Fri Apr-26-19 10:49 PM
Maybe it wasn’t as good as the first SS or the Pete and CL albums, but that’s still a solid album.

This new Pete album has me revisiting some of these albums I haven’t listened to in probably a decade. NY’s Finest had joints too.
3015593, worth it for the the Street Dreams remix instrumental FINALLY
Posted by Garhart Poppwell, Sat Apr-27-19 11:24 AM
in addition to some other remixes he did, but even without them the album is really good. REALLY good.
3015601, now all you gotta do is
Posted by The3rdOne, Sat Apr-27-19 08:03 PM
grab that acapella version..and slap em together to make a jam sandwich. (even tho you got some J Rocc scratches on it)
3015602, RE: now all you gotta do is
Posted by BlakStaar, Sat Apr-27-19 08:26 PM
How did you feel about those scratches.
3016301, ehh...didn't bother me
Posted by The3rdOne, Fri May-17-19 05:38 PM
he didnt go full turntablist mode, and he used some overused filler samples, but it didn't make or break the tracks
3015742, RE: now all you gotta do is
Posted by squeeg, Thu May-02-19 12:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGWXYvv-Zqk
3016090, ehhh.. ruined it with the self promotion
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Tue May-07-19 08:24 AM
3016302, straight snubbed that R Kelly hook outta there LOL
Posted by The3rdOne, Fri May-17-19 05:39 PM
3015594, RE: New Pete Rock - Return of the SP12000 (2019)
Posted by spidey, Sat Apr-27-19 02:50 PM
Enjoying these throwbacks....and like somebody said above, yes, it's time for the great producers from the 90's to release their outtake type stuff...
3015608, Whoa I'm digging this big time.....dope
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Apr-28-19 03:03 AM

----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
3015624, Everytime that Pete puts out an instrumental album I think...
Posted by phemom, Mon Apr-29-19 10:42 AM
...how didn't any rappers buy this? Dope as usual...

The album with Skyzoo is getting mixed right now, maybe the De La albums come out this year *fingers crossed*
3015630, quality release
Posted by Small Pro, Mon Apr-29-19 04:04 PM
amazing he just had these on deck, shit older than my teenage daughters
3015637, dope
Posted by Ishwip, Mon Apr-29-19 09:56 PM
Wish some more of the those future flavas coulda made it here but it's still crazy jokers passed on these back in the day.


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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)
3015642, Did mofos actually reject most of these songs? ...
Posted by BlakStaar, Mon Apr-29-19 10:19 PM
Or did Peter just keep most of them in the vault?

Folks here keep implying the former and not the latter. Is that really the case?

I haven't watched the Sway in the Morning interview yet but I would like
to know more about this project and the backstory about each track?

Has anyone read or watched any good press for this release?

Here's the Sway interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3_JV3voBEo
3016098, Most of them sound like they're from the INI era
Posted by OKdamn, Tue May-07-19 01:57 PM
..times probably changed and these beats seemed old after 95/96..
3015647, how many should have been the 3rd Pete & CL album???
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Tue Apr-30-19 08:00 AM
....i really feel they would have dropped something amazing if they had kept going

3015650, one the great tragedies. always ego that causes issues.
Posted by liveguy, Tue Apr-30-19 09:36 AM
3015743, acapellas
Posted by , Thu May-02-19 12:57 PM
someone needs to lace these with some post pete-rock - CL smooth lyrics.


werd.
3016027, Two different album covers?
Posted by BlakStaar, Mon May-06-19 09:52 AM
Does anyone know why there are two different album covers for this release online?

Did the album cover change at the last minute and there's really just one? Are there two different versions? Is one more exclusive than the other? Maybe the black and yellow version was just a placeholder?

The Discogs entry implies there is really one cover.

RSD Release
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81-NZav6z5L._SY355_.jpg

Black and Yellow
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4WO4k7mreY2COCk1Aic9xVUWBq29_1qqc05qOdQ1CcSOXPoWQlQ
3016085, RE: Two different album covers?
Posted by djfilthyrich, Tue May-07-19 04:03 AM
>Does anyone know why there are two different album covers for
>this release online?
>
>Did the album cover change at the last minute and there's
>really just one? Are there two different versions? Is one more
>exclusive than the other? Maybe the black and yellow version
>was just a placeholder?
>
>The Discogs entry implies there is really one cover.
>
>RSD Release
>https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81-NZav6z5L._SY355_.jpg
>
>Black and Yellow
>https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4WO4k7mreY2COCk1Aic9xVUWBq29_1qqc05qOdQ1CcSOXPoWQlQ

The Black and Yellow is not official....just a placeholder graphic
3016087, RE: Two different album covers?
Posted by BlakStaar, Tue May-07-19 05:54 AM
Thanks!
3016081, sorry, but this sounds mediocre
Posted by Bblock, Mon May-06-19 11:38 PM
as a beat tape, it's nothing special
if you're being nostalgic, still, nothing special
no changeups, just monotonous
i liked a few joints, but he should have taken notes from his mentee, dilla, and used more vocal scratches and phrases to keep the listeners attention
at least for me, just listenin' to plain beats is boring
i need to hear vocals to stay interested
it's very few pure instrumentals that can keep my attention for 45 minutes, and the ones that do or did, it's because i'm listening to them over and over to study and learn from it, or i enjoy it that much

these? not so much...
3016089, Pete could have made a really dope Soul Survivor 3 with these...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Tue May-07-19 08:21 AM
...kinda bummed that this is likely the best of his SP disk stash and we wont see another ..hope im wrong


3016091, i think he closed his eyes picked 17 disks and said "this is it"
Posted by liveguy, Tue May-07-19 09:37 AM
I KNOW these aint his best joints.

He said he's doing volumes of these so i'm assuming he's holding out.
3016122, always put your best foot forward. i almost bought this on the
Posted by Bblock, Wed May-08-19 05:50 PM
strength
but when they were playing it in the shop
i was like, this is all? where the instagram joints at?
i put it back
3016380, I Will Agree About The IG Joints
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Tue May-21-19 03:04 PM
About 2/3 of the beats he was playing on his instagram were way better than the stuff that was on this album, but from a friend who has heard some amazing Pete Rock songs, he told me that stuff we want to hear all has vocals on them, and are unreleased songs he's been sitting on for mad years, in fact some of the songs off of "Petestrumentals" he still hasn't released the vocal versions for yet (such as "Hip Hopcrisy" & "Get Involved").

And I wouldn't be surprised he's still got a stash of beats he made for and wants to give to kats like Nas, Rae, etc. but won't let them be used for anything else.; plus remember all those intro promos & remixes he's done for the Future Flavas Show back in the 90's that we still haven't heard since, those joints is just sitting in his vault.


3016386, RE: I Will Agree About The IG Joints
Posted by BlakStaar, Tue May-21-19 04:01 PM

>those intro promos & remixes he's done for the Future Flavas
>Show back in the 90's that we still haven't heard since, those
>joints is just sitting in his vault.
>

Sadly (and obviously), I don't have access to those Future Flavas beats but look what I found on Mixcloud?

https://www.mixcloud.com/discover/future-flavas/

I had no clue these were out there.
3016303, ehh...aint nothing wrong with these beats
Posted by The3rdOne, Fri May-17-19 05:42 PM
they are just full song lengths as opposed to tradition beat tapes with the 01:30 tops beats
3016328, pretty typical take from you, I expected nothing less
Posted by Garhart Poppwell, Sun May-19-19 05:13 PM
3016101, LP copies still available + merch
Posted by BlakStaar, Tue May-07-19 06:13 PM
I just realized Pete Rock's Tru Soul Records website has been updated, finally. You can buy the LP there, plus "Soul Brother University" merch:

https://trusoulnyc.com/collections/soul-brother-university

The LP and CD come with stickers.

This is just a FYI because my local go-to wrekka stos were sold out and I knew I would have get this online. The prices for the LP on eBay are terrible and not at all reflective of the retail price.
3016107, that emu shirt is dope if it wasnt yellow.
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Wed May-08-19 08:27 AM
3016119, Nas & Pete Rock | Illmatic Soul 2: The SP1200 Edition
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Wed May-08-19 03:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4o7hdMa1jg

Nas WHAT WERE YOU THINKING not copping Pete Rock tracks all those years???








3016231, Go check out Pete's instagram one time
Posted by phemom, Tue May-14-19 10:52 PM
@realpeterock

He's posting tracks while pulling together interludes for the album with Skyzoo.

It's like 10 of them up right now
3016381, Album Release Party Tomorrow in NYC 5/22/2019
Posted by BlakStaar, Tue May-21-19 03:12 PM
I signed up to receive the Tru Soul Records newsletter before this joint dropped and I received an email today: an album release party invite!

It's an invite only gathering that you have to RSVP to...I'm assuming all newsletter subscribers received this communication. Based on what happened when I clicked the link, there's going to be some sort of short film premiere, too. There were no additional details.

Hit me up if you want the email RSVP address and designated subject line. I'm going to exercise caution and not post it on the public forum.

I don't live in NYC anymore so I can't go. ;-(
3024051, New merch on Soul Brother University
Posted by BlakStaar, Sat Apr-25-20 12:38 AM
https://www.soulbrotheruniversity.com/shop-online

Diggin' this shirt:
https://www.soulbrotheruniversity.com/shop-online/alwaysdiggin
3024156, RE: New Pete Rock - Return of the SP12000 (2019)
Posted by Jimmy Green, Sun Apr-26-20 03:17 AM
That ‘Kool Jazz’ track is absolutely wonderful. Love the OG sample anyway, but they way he’s used it is lovely. He seems to use quite a few K&TG samples from that same album... he’s got his favourite sounds 👍