First, I know not everyone feels that Illmatic is the greatest hip-hop album of all-time so please save your replies in which you tell me "Album "X" is better than Illmatic anyway".

This is a different post.

Illmatic is 10 tracks, 9 songs and 1 intro and one could make the case that it benefits from its length because it has less opportunity to get knocked off the rails with a less-than-stellar track.

So my question is, what album, if broken down to just 10 tracks (whether that's 10 songs or 9 tracks and an intro) do you feel would be better than Illmatic?

For example, are the best 10 tracks from an album like Cuban Linx better than Illmatic whereas maybe you feel the full album as it stand now isn't quite as good due to some joints that aren't straight A's?

We are obviously nitpicking here but post up what album you feel would be better and post the 10 tracks you would select.

GO!

1. Hold On, Be Strong
2. Return of the "G"
3. Rosa Parks
4. Skew It on the Bar-B
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Da Art of Storytellin' (Part 1)
8. Da Art of Storytellin' (Part 2)
9. SpottieOttieDopaliscious
10. Liberation

That's a good ass option right there.

I could even put Y'all Scared in there for the Goodie collab.

or just lack of love a lot of folks have for it.
I really dig that song.

1 You May Die
2 Two Dope Boys
3 ATLiens
4 Jazzy Belle
5 Elevators
6 Babylon
7 Wailin'
8 Mainstream
9 Millennium
10 13th Floor/Growing Old

>1 You May Die
>2 Two Dope Boys
>3 ATLiens
>4 Jazzy Belle
>5 Elevators
>6 Babylon
>7 Wailin'
>8 Mainstream
>9 Millennium
>10 13th Floor/Growing Old

Title track can go

>Title track can go

It ain't on my version

I love Wheelz of Steel now, but in the North when that dropped, it wasn't a favorite at all.

It has a different vibe and feel than the rest of the album. Which is fine because it's still cohesive and fits but the increased bpm's sets it apart where I wouldn't mind losing it.

I can't take any of the above tracks out personally, I like that 10 track album ... but I can't lose Wheelz of Steel.

Not on my version

Lol

Knowledge God
Criminology
Incarcerates Scarfaces
Rainy Dayz
Guillotine
Glaciers of Ice
Verbal Intercourse
Spot Rusherz
Ice Cream
Wu-Gambinos

>Knowledge God
>Criminology
>Incarcerates Scarfaces
>Rainy Dayz
>Guillotine
>Glaciers of Ice
>Verbal Intercourse
>Spot Rusherz
>Ice Cream
>Wu-Gambinos

Drop ice cream and give me ice water then I'm all in

No sale!

My bad, I didn't see it somehow..

Aside from Heaven and Hell that was the first song I heard prior to the release of the album. I remember listening in awe at it.. awesome song!

Yeah it's one of the best on the album. I would actually want to keep Heaven Or Hell

Liquid Swords
Duel of the Iron Mic
Living in the World Today
Cold World
Labels
4th Chamber
Shadowboxin
Investigative Reports
The Swordsman
I Gotcha Back

Gold is my shit!

Did you exclude BIBLE because it's Killah Priest?

If not, that needs to stay bro.

>Gold is my shit!

Mine too. I could live with that or Living in the World Today.

>Did you exclude BIBLE because it's Killah Priest?

Yes. Figure with 10 cuts, I'm leaving off songs that don't feature the album's artist. So, like, as much as I like Faster Blade and Assassination Day, I'd leave them off a ten-song version of Iron Man.

Speaking of which...

>Liquid Swords
>Duel of the Iron Mic
>Living in the World Today
>Cold World
>Labels
>4th Chamber
>Shadowboxin
>Investigative Reports
>The Swordsman
>I Gotcha Back

Put Gold in place of duel of the iron mic

Three of my favorite verses on the album.

Just take off "Beautiful But Deadly" and the two interludes, and that would do it.

It’s already better than illmatic untouched

1. Intro
2. Things Done Changed
3. Gimme the Loot
4. Warning
5. Ready to Die
6. The What
7. Juicy
8. Everyday Struggle
9. Big Poppa
10. Unbelievable

There's enough great songs on this album that you don't need to take up a spot with the intro, but that intro is a classic, sets up the album perfectly and leads into "Things Done Changed" so well that I couldn't leave it off.

BTW great post idea. Gonna make playlists with the condensed versions of a bunch of albums now.

But there has to be a way to get Suicidal Tendencies in there. Maybe replace it with Everyday Struggle?

Excellent album right here. Succinct and banging.

I always skip past the trash anyway, without those it's the best album Jay ever made

Intro/A Million And One Questions/Rhyme No More
Imaginary Player
Streets Is Watching
Friend or Foe '98
Lucky Me
Face Off
Real Niggaz
Rap Game/Crack Game
Where I'm From
You Must Love Me

... taking off the trash makes it an indisputable classic.

nothing like touching down in nyc for the first time from new orleans and having a chick pick you up in a white beamer and being like, listen... I gotta hear a bunch of songs.

city is mine works so well in that context lol... i'll forever love that cheesy joint.

Damn, forgot what a tough LP that was...Bangers indeed...

1 You Know My Steez
2 Work
3 Royalty
4 Above The Clouds
5 Moment of Truth
6 The Militia
7 New York Strait Talk
8 My Advice 2 You
9 Make 'Em Pay
10 Betrayal

replace with JFK 2 LAX in my version

But I can't think of what I'd remove.

because there isn't a hair out of place on it. The Mall is nowhere near as bad as people like to say.

I played the album through the other day and it just feels too long.

After Make 'Em Pay I'm pretty spent so that probably amplifies the distaste for The Mall for some.

Still a classic.

Guru really laid it out there on that ablum, there is a lot of visceral emotion on that album, even in the sample choices. That's what makes it a masterpiece. I can let it ride and I never get tired of hearing it.

Verses are fine, but getting past that hook is not easy.

Iron Maiden
Wildflower
260
Poisonous Darts
Fish
Daytona 500
Black Jesus
After the Smoke is Clear
All That I Got Is You
Soul Controller

Really want to fit "Motherless Child" in there.

this shit ain't easy (c)

The Infamous Prelude (GOAT skit)
Survival of The Fittest
Eye For A Eye (Your Beef Is Mines)
Give Up The Goods (Just Step)
Temperature's Rising
Up North Trip
Q.U. -- Hectic
Right Back At You
Drink Away The Pain (Situations)
Shook Ones Pt. II

Fuck that skit if it means we need to leave off that joint

and Cradle To The Grave

There's really no outright wack tracks or "aight" filler on The Infamous, Hav and P were on fire and could do no wrong at the time

You got some suspect as statements up in here bro lol.

Start of Your Ending is one of the best openers of all time.

that guitar/bass loop is pretty serious. Probably would've been better put to use as a short intro to the song.

gotta have 41st side.

ALONGWAYTOGO
Code to the Streets
Brainstorm
Tonz O Gunz
Speak Ya Clout
Mass Appeal
Blowin Up the Spot
Suckaz Need Bodyguards
FALA
Coming For Datazz

>ALONGWAYTOGO
>Code to the Streets
>Brainstorm
>Tonz O Gunz - Swap with The Planet
>Speak Ya Clout
>Mass Appeal
>Blowin Up the Spot
>Suckaz Need Bodyguards - Swap with Mostly The Voice or DWYCK
>FALA
>Coming For Datazz

Keep the intro and we're good

Stress
The Extinction Agenda
Thirteen
Black Sunday
Why
Let's Organize
3-2-1
Keep It Koming
Stray Bullet
Maintain

same year as Illmatic....as solid as it gets

Wish we could include the Stress remix though. That joint is still crazy.

>Wish we could include the Stress remix though. That joint is
>still crazy.

Xtra P put his whole foot in that beat.

It's dope but never knew people had it on the bulletproof list until I came to okayplayer.

Album is hella underrated.

It's always one of those high quality joints that people tend to forget about for some reason.

Supreme display of lyricism and creativity.

Beats ridiculous and most of the production was Monch/Prince Po.

Excellent follow up album to their debut.

What I like most about the album is that it's like "Releasing Hypnotical Gases" expanded in album form.

Dope album for real, and in absolutely no way, overrated.

It is underrated to the masses AND overrated by the underground.

That's what I guess I meant by strangely.

Dope album but I've legit seen it listed as the best album of 1994.

Shit is not on that level.

94 was the greatest year in hip hop, not up for discussion

In my top 5 I got

Illmatic
Stress
The Sun Rises in The East
Southernplayalistic
Hard To Earn

Honorable mention: Resurrection

What 10+ albums are better?

I'm taking Nas, Kast, Biggie, jeru, gang starr, Pete & CL, scarface, Redman, beatnuts, oc and common over the ok. It's in my top 15 fa sho. 94 was crazy!

Nas
Outkast
Jeru
Gang Starr
Pete & CL ---> this album was my ISHT!!
Beatnuts
OC
Common

To your point, 94 was spectacular in every sense...

So many classics.

The end of the Golden Era...

They went out with a bang!

Nas
Big
Red
Pete & CL
Gang Starr
Jeru
OC
Common
Outkast
Scarface

Method Man
Beatnuts
Artifacts
Beastie Boys

94 has a ton of great albums. Stress is dope and is in that list but I just shake my head when I see it listed at the top of the list or top 5 because it feels like people do it just to be different.

Right when it came out I loved it and recognized it as a complete statement.
I'll take it over Red's album, Jeru, Method Man and some others. Top 10 rating from an underground head isn't shocking. Top 5 rating just means it resonated with that person more vs some of the other undeniable classics. Similar to Masta Ace's Slaughtahouse which I rate higher than many other classic albums of that time because everything about it just worked to me.

Bobhyahead2This
A Million and One Buddah Spots
Noorotic
Cosmic Slop
Rockafella
Green Island
Basically
Can't Wait
Winicumuhround
We Run NY

The Experience
Black Ice
Fly Away
Beautiful Skin
Gutta Butta
Distant Wilderness
Greeny Green
I Refuse Limitation
Inshallah
Still Standing

it's my favorite Dungeon project, I think.

I liked "Inshallah" just a little better. And thought that and the title track made the album really flow at the end. (I haven't listened to "Just About Over" is years)

I think I may take off Gutta Butta for SUWISU

Gotta leave that one on.

But that's me. Such a good album. Inshallah is one of my favorite Goodie songs and one of my favorite phrases to say in life.

If illmatic was done the way Nas wanted, it wouldn't be the classic that we love today? They rushed released it due to bootlegging and that's why we got the short tracklist. Knowing Nas history, some duds would've made the cut if he continued working on it lol

There are albums listed that I still don't think are better.

I love Dare Is A Darkside but outside of Can't Wait, that album doesn't reach the highs Illmatic does.

Same for a lot of these albums posted.

the one that didn't make it was this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TfqkQGNJik

Some lines made it though, this track was on his demo tape

I don't have any links or anything but I could've sworn I read that he had a lot more tracks but that these 10 were the only certainties and once the deadline came he just submitted that.

You're probly right I just always thought otherwise for some reason.

I kinda love it. Never heard it, shockingly.

He was signed to Cold Chillin with his group 2 Deep back when Marley was the top producer in Hip Hop, and after they did that album he started doing production/engineering.

1. Steve Biko
2. Award Tour
3. Sucka Nigga
4. Midnight
5. We Can Get Down
6. Electric Relaxation
7. The Chase, Part II
8. Oh My God
9. Lyrics To Go
10. God Lives Through

Leaving off Keep It Rollin and Clap Your Hands (and 8 Million Stories) hurts my heart, but it must be so

but how they didn't get a 5 for that album is beyond me.

I love it all, but would always say Buhloone is stronger because of its concise nature.

1. Supa Emcees
2. Tha Bizness
3. Brakes
4. Itzsoweezee
5. Big Brother
6. Down Syndrome
7. Pony Ride
8. Stakes is High
9. Sunshine

I love Stakes is High and think it's classic but agree it could use a *little* trimming, and also agree that BMS is rated higher in their discog because of its brevity. Both amazing albums tho.

I'll have to come back and make my own "top 10" list for Stakes but I may end up just repping yours once I think about it haha.

from the end of Side 1, like Island Degrees, Dinninit, or Dog Eat Dog? They are decent songs, but elevated mostly by the lyrics and delivery. The concepts and beats are kinda vanilla, but Pos and Dave bring it. Hard to imagine those would've stayed on if Prince Paul was still involved. They screamed out that this was a new and more mature De La, for better or worse.

There are only 9 tracks listed.

In the House
Carmel City
I Get Physical
Worldwide
All the Places
Tell Me
Take You There
Check It Out
In the Flesh
It's On You


I hated to take off Escape and I prefer the Get On the Mic remix to the original (double that for I Got A Love) but the original fits better on the album.

Considering this is a Pete Rock album I was tempted to remix swap, but that would have gone against the spirit of the post....SPINOFF post!

And you did a good job here. Haha.

I had to leave off a few songs I personally love, but that's just a testament to how good this album is.

when he says he probly couldn't cut this any lower than 12 or 13.

And Check It Out is such a dope track.

I really couldn't cut that album down past 12 or 13 lol

and honestly there's no real wrong way to do it because those Pete and CL albums don't really have any superfluous songs on them. Everything serves a purpose. I went through this about a dozen times and just settled on the last tracklist I did LOL

>I prefer the Get On the Mic
>remix to the original (double that for I Got A Love) but the
>original fits better on the album.
>
>Considering this is a Pete Rock album I was tempted to remix
>swap, but that would have gone against the spirit of the
>post....SPINOFF post!

I almost did the same thing until read your post, ha!
The I Got A Love remix got mad rotation and ended up on so many mixtapes I made for cats back in the day. For some reason I didn't have the Get On The Mic remix until way later...but gotdamn! The bassline and those Whatnaughts drums are instant headnodders. Might have to make that spinoff post, b....




*CROCKER*

word booty.

HSUBAKCITS




http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/chowyunskinny/Gold%20Chef/iron_chef.jpg

and that whole albums was just in the middle of PR's remix tear. He did some super wild stuff after that but most people don't really mention it much (like that Respiration remix with Thought replacing Comm).

Would probably swap out Worldwide for it.

The Magic Number
Change In Speak
Jenifa Taught Me (Derwin's Revenge)
Ghetto Thang
Eye Know
Tread Water
Potholes in My Lawn
Say No Go
Plug Tunin'
Buddy

I'd probably switch out "Tread Water" and **gulp** "Buddy," maybe. Maybe it's because I prefer to the remix to the album version.

>I'd probably switch out "Tread Water" and **gulp** "Buddy,"
>maybe. Maybe it's because I prefer to the remix to the album
>version.


i like the OG BUDDY better than the remix.. my kids LOVE tread water.. might be their most requested song on car rides, cant go wrong with Mr Squirl, Mr Fish and Mr Monkey :)

...the group hates it as well

Pickin' Boogers
Albee Square Mall
Biz is Goin' Off
Return of the Biz Dance
Vapors
Make the Music with Your Mouth, Biz
Biz Dance (Part One)
Nobody Beats the Biz
This Is Something for the Radio
Cool V's Tribute to Scratching

push it along
luck of lucien
footprints
i left my wallet in el segundo
bonita applebum
can i kick it?
youthful expression
mr. muhammad
ham 'n' eggs
description of a fool

Can't allow it! Haha. Mr Muhammad has to go. Go Ahead In The Rain is fighting for a spot too. Overall a strong list though.

it's one of my favorite albums ever tho, so they were all tough.

...but the problem with that is that the album doesn't have an ending.

Maybe I'd switch out "Ham and Eggs" for "Go Ahead and Rain" and end it on that.

Wrong N$%^a to Fuck With
My Summer Vacation
Steady Mobbin
A Bird in the Hand
Alive on Arrival
I Wanna Kill Sam
True To the Game
Color Blind
Doing Dumb Shit
No Vaseline

"Giving Up the Nappy Dugout" and "Man's Best Friend" were hard to leave off.

SM wasn't really about anything
while Man's Best Friend actually used Atomic Dog to great effect
and probably hip hop's first pro-2nd amendment record

It's a Big Daddy Thing
Another Victory
Mortal Combat
Young, Gifted, and Black
Smooth Operator
Calling Mr. Welfare
Pimpin' Ain't Easy
Big Daddy's Theme
On the Move
Warm It Up Kane

1 Fear Not Of Man
2 Hip-Hop
3 Love
4 Ms Fat Booty
5 Got
6 Umi Says
7 Know That
8 Brooklyn
9 Mr. N
10 Mathematics

I like how you kept FNM because it's a perfect preamble to Hip Hop. Mos and that Diamond D beat...damn it this is one of the best opening songs to an album ever. I expected him to come off, but not like this.

I'd go with

1 Fear Not Of Man
2 Hip-Hop
3 Love
4 Ms Fat Booty
5 Speed Law
6 New World Water
7 Know That
8 Brooklyn
9 Habitat
10 Mathematics

I like "Umi Says" but if I only have 10 tracks I'm keeping them all rapping-Mos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El1mZpv-V4o

Umi Says is really one of his signature songs and lifts the album to another level especially with the Jordan commercial.

I have a hard time losing that because it adds a different level of artistry to the album and reaches new audiences.

1 Gasoline Dreams
2 So Fresh So Clean
3 Ms Jackson
4 Spaghetti Junction
5 BOBS
6 Humble Mumble
7 Gangsta Shit
8 Red Velvet
9 Toilet Tisha
10 Slum Beautiful

I might swap out "Gangsta Shit" was "Xplosion," bur I don't feel particularly strong about that.

I would get rid of both for Speedballin' which was supposed to be on there.

Maybe ? should stay.

Like you and Nick mentioned you could probably add a song or two and still had a tight playlist, but there seemed to be a few too many songs on this album.

All For One
Concerto In X Minor
Ragtime
To the Right
Drop the Bomb
Step to the Rear
Slow Down
Grand Puba, Positive, and LG
Wake Up (In the Sunshine Reprise)
Dedication

1. Section
2. It Just Don't Stop
3. Push Up Ya Lighter
4. What They Do
5. Concerto of the Desperado
6. Clones
7. Universe at War
8. No Alibi
9. No Great Pretender
10. The Hypnotic

1 Respond/React
2 Section
3 Panic!
4 Episodes
5 What They Do
6 Concerto Of the Desperado
7 Clones
8 No Alibi
9 No Great Pretender
10 Hypnotic

Ya Don't Stop
Hellraiser
Are You Ready?
Superbad
Straight Jacket
Fried Chicken
Get Funky
Hit Me With That
2-3 Break
Rik's Joint

I can roll with the track list too. Such a great album. Had so much energy.

Even though it was on the EP, I'd have to find a way to keep Psycho Dwarf on the list

I'm Mad
Hardcore
Rampage
Manslaughter
For My People
Goldigger
Give the People
Rap Is Outta Control
Brothers On My Jock
Funky Piano

Humpy Dance
The Way We Swing
Hip-Hop Doll
Rhyming On the Funk
Underwater Rimes
Freaks of the Industry
Tribute to the Early Days
Sex Packets
Packet Man
Doowutchalike

>Humpy Dance
>The Way We Swing
>Hip-Hop Doll

Swap this for Danger Zone

>Rhyming On the Funk
>Underwater Rimes
>Freaks of the Industry
>Tribute to the Early Days
Swap this for Gutfest '89

>Sex Packets
>Packet Man
>Doowutchalike

01 Intro
02 The Message
03 Street Dreams
04 I Gave You Power
05 Take It In Blood
06 Affirmative Action
07 The Set Up
08 Shootouts
09 Live N Rap
10 If I Ruled The World (Imagine That)

Nas flow on that.....SMH.

I love Suspect too, but I don't know that I could take anything off for it.

and add Suspect and Black Girl Lost. The rest is good money.

And outside of Nas Is Coming, I always felt Suspect was the weak link.

and it's funny because the first 3 verses were super ill to me, but I can skip the song and not feel bad. It's something about the presentation that I like a lot less than the parts that make it up.

1. Bring the Noise
2. Don't Believe the Hype
3. Cold Lampin
4. Louder Than a Bomb
5. Show em Whatca Got
6. She watch channel zero
7. Night of the living baseheads
8. Black Steel
9. Rebel without a Pause
10. Prophets of Rage

I agree with the argument of albums benefitting from being short and tight ( even if I also really enjoy the attempts at epics spanning into multiple disc range - ie Wu Tang Forever. ) Illmatic certainly benefits from this. Trimming the fat is always a good idea - though that also lessens the chances for deep tracks and opportunities for experimentation. Also one mans throwaway track is another mans favorite track - especially when experimentation comes into play.

That being said - the coffee seems to be working better after flipping through the tracks above! I'm gonna go hurt myself by tryin to break through a wall like the Hulk now.

1 Intro
2 What U See Is What U Get
3 3 Card Molly
4 Handle Ur Business
5 Focus
6 Deeper
7 Los Angels Times
8 Inside Job
9 Let It Rain
10 Recycled Assassins

...then later SD50's made a sequel "Shroomz II" feat Xzibit & Everlast on their compilation LP

My World
War Games
The Chosen One
Dangerous
Win the G
Far From Yours
M.U.G.
You And Yours
It's Only Right
Jewelz

Fucks wrong witchu!?

1 My World
2 War Games
3 The Chosen One
4 Dangerous
5 Far From Yours
6 Stronjay
7 MUG
8 You And Yours
9 Hypocrite
10 Jewelz

I love every track on this album but to me this is the best mix.

I would've kept Its Only Right over You And Yours but one thing that always bothered me about the album was how hit the title track came in off of Its Only Right due to poor mixing/mastering.

Droppin' 'Em
Smokin, Dopin
Clap Your Hands
Nitro
Crime Stories
It Gets No Rougher
Big Ole Butt
1-900-LL Cool J
Jingling Baby
Jack the Ripper

1 Time Travelin'
2 Heat
3 Dooinit
4 The Light
5 The Sixth Sense
6 Nag Champa
7 Thelonius
8 Geto Heaven
9 A Song For Assata
10 Pop's Rap: All My Children

or Cold Blooded. The rest is solid.

"I'm twenty-two, catch
In the prime of my life,
I don't have time to be a wife"

https://twitter.com/MeeshUniVerSoul
https://instagram.com/soul.con.fusion/

"She was on that tip about stoppin' the violence
About my people she was teachin' me..."

A Common album without Pops' Rap is like jewels without ice. Like China without rice, or the holy bible without Christ.

i love the shit out of that beat, karriem riggins >

1 Invocation
2 Real N Quotes
3 Retrospect For Life
4 GOD
5 Hungry
6 All Night
7 Stolen Moments 1-3
8 1'2 Many...
9 Remindin' Me (of Sef)
10 Pop's Rap

>7 Stolen Moments 1-3

How it is on my iTunes lol

1. Allah U Akbar
2. Ain't No Mystery
3. Pass The Gat
4. Allah and Justice
5. The Godz...
6. Travel jam
7. Love Me or Leave Me Alone
8. Steady Bootleggin
9. Black and Blue
10. Punks Jump Up

Steal Ya Ho and Meaning of the 5% were close.

1. A Walk Thru The Valley
2. Slaughtahouse
3. Late Model Sedan
4. Jeep Ass Niguh
5. The Big East
6. Boom Bashin
7. Mad Wunz
8. Style Wars - So fucking dope.
9. Crazy Drunken Style
10. Saturday Night Live

Who U Jackin and Ain't U the Masta got cut last.

1. Power Impak!
2. Who Got The Props
3. Act Like U Want It
4. Buck Em Down
5. Black SnW
6. Make Munne
7. Slave
8. I Gotcha Opin
9. Shit Iz Real
10. How Many MCs

Hard cuts on this one. I'm still unsure about leaving Powerful Impak on, but I'm so used to it as the opener.

U da man just for Dru Ha's "I'm trying to fit in with all you guys" verse

1. Blood
2. bullies of the block
3. Six Tray
4. danger
5. Boundaries
6. Way Cool
7. Mary
8. Park Bench People
9. Heavyweights
10. Pure Thought

and it's good because it makes you look at the Hip Hop album in a different, and probably more meaningful, way than just the personal perspective of what you like or what you don't. Contrary to popular opinion, there are aspects of art that are quantifiable.

1 The Return
2 Shinin' Star
3 The Beat Change
4 Don't Let It Go To Your Head
5 Brand Nubian
6 Maybe One Day
7 Love Vs Hate
8 Straight Outta Now Rule
9 Foundation
10 U For Me

he was on a tear from 95-2000, on the low, with what he was lacing people with. Honestly I'm amazed Rawkus didn't try to lock him in, especially for album cuts.

Iron Galaxy
Ox Out the Cage
B-Boy Alpha
Raspberry Fields
Vein
Stress Rap
Battle For Asgard
Painkillers
Pigeon
Scream Phoenix

Bloodmoney, LA LA, Stick you, TONY, Illegal Life, Black Gangstas, just to name a few. not a wack song on this album.

Pick 10 lol

1. Bloodmoney
2. LA LA / RMX
3. Stick you
4. TONY
5. Illegal Life
6. Black Gangstas
7. Channel 10
8. Iraq
9. Halfway Thugs
10.Live on Live Long

not a wack song on this album.

I dont get the hate with this song. The sample and hook is ill and Pone pulls it off.

Animal Insttinct
Bloodsport
Extortion
Can't Get Enough Of It
Nighttime Vultures
G.O.D. Pt. 3
Hell On Earth
Give It Up Fast
Still Shinin'
Apostle's Warning

And the album needs a beginning.

Certainly not better than Illmatic, but rock solid:

1.) Go with the Flow
2.) Doomsday
3.) Rhymes like Dimes
4.) The Finest
5.) Red and Gold
6.) Hey!
7.) The Mic
8.) Dead Bent
9.) Gas Drawls
10.) ?

1 Tru Master
2 Half Man Half Amazing
3 The Game
4 #1 Soul Brother
5 One Life To Live
6 Take Your Time
7 Mind Blowing
8 Da Two
9 Strange Fruit
10 Soul Survivor

Damn that was rough. Hurt to keep Respect Mine off of there.

that album was so well sequenced that you don't even have to rearrange the track order-take them off in the same order.

01 The Chronic
02 Fuck Wit Dre Day (And Everybody's Celebratin)
03 Let Me Ride
04 Nuthin But A G Thang
05 Deez Nuts
06 A Nigga Witta Gun
07 Rat Tat Tat Tat
08 High Powered
09 The Roach
10 Bitches Ain't Shit

The Roach gotta go. Always go song over skit.

... needs to be there but I would hate to see Snoop's intro/the vintage Death Row *jail cell door* "welcome to Death Row" go.

Maybe we can do what Anonymous did with "Stolen Moments 1-3" and just splice the Intro with "Fuck w/Dre Day" (they kinda work together as it is) and get the best of both worlds haha.

In all seriousness I need both "Stranded" and "Lyrical Gangbang" cause Kurupt stole the show (and maybe sneakily the album ???) with his verses on those tracks. Come to think of it, hammam must have an anti-Kurupt bias being that neither track was included in that list ....

01 The Watcher
02 Fuck You
03 Still DRE
04 Xxplosive
05 What's The Difference
06 Forgot About Dre
07 The Next Episode
08 Bitch Niggaz
09 Housewife
10 The Message

where he talked about how a song on one of his albums (i can't remember) was inspired by "let's get high" and how that song captured the LA House Party vibe perfectly and how he wanted to make a song like that.

Even though the whole world had the album, you never heard that track in clubs outside the West

Even though the whole world had the album, you never heard that track in clubs outside the West

01 Hypnotize
02 Kick In The Door
03 I Love The Dough
04 What's Beef
05 Niggas Bleed
06 I Got A Story To Tell
07 Notorious Thugs
08 Ten Crack Commandments
09 Sky's The Limit
10 Long Kiss Goodnight

01 Can't Knock The Hustle
02 Politics As Usual
03 Brooklyn's Finest
04 Dead Presidents 2
05 D'Evils
06 Can I Live
07 Friend Or Foe
08 Coming Of Age
09 Bring It On
10 Regrets

for that matter.

Shit.

01 Conant Gardens
02 I Don't Know
03 Climax (Girl Shit)
04 Tell Me
05 Untitled + Fantastic
06 Fall In Love
07 Get Dis Money
08 Raise It Up
09 Once Upon A Time
10 Players

...which one of these goes. If pressed, I'm bumping out "Once Upon a Time".

it took me a good 20 minutes to narrow it down to 10 lol

01 Iz He 4 Real
02 Welcome
03 Pick It Up
04 Smoke Buddah
05 Whateva Man
06 Do What Ya Feel
07 Da Bump
08 Yesh Yesh Y'all
09 Soopaman Luva 3
10 Da Ill Out

Boomin' System
Eat Em Up L Chill
Mr. Goodbar
Cheesy Rat Blues
Farmers Blvd.
Mama Said Knock You Out
Milky Cereal
Jingling Baby (rmx)
To Da Break of Dawn
Power of God

1. Bombs First
2. Hailmarry
3. To live and die in LA
4. Blasphemy
5. Life of an Outlaw
6. Krazy
7. Me and my girlfriend
8. Hold ya Head
9. Against all odds

It's even shorter than illmatic

1 Thug Motivation
2 Standing Ovation
3 Gangsta Music
4 And Then What
5 Bottom of the Map
6 Get Ya Mind Right
7 Trapstar
8 Bang
9 Trap or Die
10 Air Forces


Hard cuts: Go Crazy, My Hood
Tough cuts: Soul Survivor, Don't Get Caught

~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

1. Funky Voltron
2. I See Colours
3 Fumbling Over Words That Rhyme
4 Torture Chamber
5 Making Planets
6 Rock and Roll
7 Beauty
8 The Science of the Two
9 Smile
10 Promised Land

~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

1 One Day
2 Murder
3 Pinky Ring
4 Diamonds & Wood
5 3 in the Mornin'
6 Touched
7 Fuck My Car
8 That's Why I Carry
9 Hi-Life
10 Ridin' Dirty

I can swap Good Stuff for the title track, but I figure might as well have the album's namesake.


~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

1 R4 Theme Song
2 Dreamin'
3 Rotation
4 American Rapstar
5 Lions & Lambs
6 King's Blues
7 Get Right
8 Player's Ballad
9 Another Naive Individual Glorifying Greed and Encouraging Racism
10 Free My Soul


~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

Time 4 Sum Akshun
Da Funk
So Ruff
Rated R
Watch Yo Nuggets
Blow Your Mind
Redman vs. Reggie Noble
Tonight's Da Night
I'm a Bad
How to Roll a Blunt

Gin N' Juice
W-Balls
Tha Shiznit
Murder was the case
Who am I?
For All My Niggaz & Bitches
Ain't no fun
Doggy Dogg World
G'z and Hustlers (and you GOTTA keep the Bow wow intro before)
Pump Pump

*If you allow "G'z up, hoes down" I would replace "For all my niggaz & bitches" with that*

... cutting G-Funk Intro. Rage blacked out on that.