And I don't think you took it this way but just in case, I definitely didn't mean to insinuate that you were trying to knock ToT or any of the other music that clearly had a massive impact on both of us (and likely most of us on this board; it's the music that brought us all here obviously). Was just explaining the (probably biased) reasons I don't find that music to sound as pretentious as you do, even now with hindsight and perspective and maturity. I'm probably just still listening with a heavy dose of nostalgia for the formative years that shaped me musically, rather than a more strictly objective/critical ear that I'd judge it by if it were released today and *didn't* have that wistfulness attached to it.

So yea - we are on the same page for sure.

Interested to hear what you have to say when you give it another listen. I'm also enjoying the discussion immensely. ToT is an album I could discuss at length forever.