anybody up on these cats from Buffalo?

They are clearly influenced by Only Built and Ironman era Wu.

Fly street shit. Soul samples.
Almost none of their stuff has hooks though.
Guess still learning.

appears Skyzoo and Roc Marciano cosign.


Westside Gunn - Mr. T (produced by Apollo Brown)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiZWaWXubIw

Westside Gunn - Hitler Wears Hermes LP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fQ-yMmZBgM

Westside Gunn & Conway the Machine - Griselda Ghost EP
(PRODUCED by BIG GHOST LTD. ... YES THAT BIG GHOST...
the best production they spit on imo)

Conway the Machine - Blakk Tape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmjbwU6L4HI

Westside Gunn and Conway the Machine - Hall & Nash EP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uvtqtzYqP8

Conway is way better than Westside.


Also, we can now lay to rest that idea that cornball brother supreme Donald Glover was the mind behind the Big Ghostface persona.

yo - just got up on em about a week ago....with that joint they did with Roc Marciano

dopest shyt I've heard in a long while...reminds me of the first time I heard Wu f'ril.....

that "Mr.T" joint produced by Apollo Brown?? holy shyt - crazy...

been on all they shyt heavy for about a week now....

I checked out Hitler Wears Hermes and I've been following them ever since.

Hitler Wears Hermes is like the story of Jimmy Jump before Frank White came home

They all used to rap back in the day But he stuck with it and WOW I'm really feelin' it.

I'm probably super biased but He's one of my favorites out right now (Westside Gunn)

I like Conway too. I just wish both of them would stop releasing their music on soundcloud. I'd gladly purchase but I can't find anywhere to cop.

I used to get fish from Rolacks all the time, That video make me miss home.

like 150 copies each.

super limited. all soldout on their bandcamp.

love the idea of building your fan base through youtube vids,
word of mouth, clothing, GOOD MUSIC of course, and limited physical
product. makes you keep constantly checking for them because
might not know when they'll drop some kind of physical product again.

I have to ask though, PLEASE, no shots... just genuinely curious...

I know Conway was shot, thought was shot in neck, maybe wrong.

Can someone tell me without being a dick why his mouth is like that?

I think Conway is the better lyricist.
Westside Gunn has the better voice to me, but I'm also
an old school higher pitched tone Ghostface as opposed to that bullshit he doing now.

he been working on SC2 for at least 5-6 years now.
He said he knows what beats looking for and that's why taking so long.
He said he knows what he needs to make it a true companion piece
to SC... so I believe him. Also why I think he's been doing
the Adrian Younge projects, and the BBNG EP... put some money in his pocket so he can take his time on SC2.

Cause Apollo Kids was pretty garbage. and the Younge and BBNG projects - he sounds like he's reading off a sheet of looseleaf.

He needs to ditch the storyline their giving him, and him trying to creat characters to fit the music... and just go back to super vivid
stream of conscious: The Forest, The Sun, stories like Shakey Dog,
Holla, verse on Impossible, Stroke of Death, Wisdom Body solo, Hollow Bones verse, etc.

Still have hopes for DOOMSTARKS. He was killing the songs when they were being released. He still had the high pitched Ghost voice we all came to love and recognize when we'd catch the blast from a hype verse.

Sorry to hijack Conway and Westside Gunn, but I mean... they do clearly love Only Built and Ironman anyways...

>like 150 copies each.
>
>super limited. all soldout on their bandcamp.
>
>love the idea of building your fan base through youtube vids,
>word of mouth, clothing, GOOD MUSIC of course, and limited
>physical
>product. makes you keep constantly checking for them because
>might not know when they'll drop some kind of physical product
>again.

I'm guessing this speaks to both dudes not placing a big value on selling physical product since sales for CDs and vinyl aren't all that big compared to 10 years ago. Pretty aggravating to have to stalk social media for these guys to have a shot of coping a CD or vinyl release from both guys. Hopefully when they get bigger in fame, they can get a bigger and better distribution deal to make their physical product more readily available.

>I'm guessing this speaks to both dudes not placing a big value
>on selling physical product since sales for CDs and vinyl
>aren't all that big compared to 10 years ago.

they're placing a pretty big value on selling vinyl, they're charging premium prices and making the products limited editions.

...hence the constant screwface.

i bought reject 2 and don't get scared now on amazon

..cause I don like shyt...and these dudes been on rotation for weeks now...

yeah that's just me....but makes me wonder if real dope shyt really gets any shine in today's "hip-hop" landscape.....

I was arguing that with a cat recently.....cause he was saying ain no dope hip-hop anymore...my argument was that they're probably is you just haven't discovered it...and even when you do...it's not gonna get any shine/support these days...

but I'm an old head too so...maybe these young cats ain on this type shyt.....

eh -

.

same cadence and flow.. at least with the examples given.


werd.

Westside Gunn sounds NOTHING like Roc Marciano.

https://youtu.be/kiZWaWXubIw?t=50s - West Side Gunn (link from OP)

https://youtu.be/-F54LoInUkc?t=1m47s - Random youtube search for Roc Marciano.

Apart from the voice pitch, you don't think their flow sounds similar.

As soon as I heard West Side Gunn it reminded me of Roc. I'm not saying they are identical, just similar.


You all drastic and shit.... "they sound NOTHING alike" .. really?


werd.

>https://youtu.be/kiZWaWXubIw?t=50s - West Side Gunn (link
>from OP)
>
>https://youtu.be/-F54LoInUkc?t=1m47s - Random youtube search
>for Roc Marciano.
>
>Apart from the voice pitch, you don't think their flow sounds
>similar.
>
>As soon as I heard West Side Gunn it reminded me of Roc. I'm
>not saying they are identical, just similar.
>
>
>You all drastic and shit.... "they sound NOTHING alike" ..
>really?
>
>
>werd.




Not at all. Westside has trash bars and put on an extra grimey affect that sounds like a wounded child. Roc Marc is calm, measured fkly God shit.

Roc Marc is
>calm, measured fkly God shit.



AGREED!


werd.

Rex Ryan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUTD9ok997k

Perfect Plex - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1CIeNBAQz8

Both high pitched, but aren't all that similar to me.

>Rex Ryan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUTD9ok997k

.

.

Gunn some time. Roc Marciano didn't fully come into his own until Reloaded.
I didn't have a problem with Action Bronson initially, because I figured his sound would grow a bit, but it just hasn't.
I don't listen to Your Old Droog, but I don't hate him. I do expect him to start to develop his own thing though.

Just downloaded Hall & Nash.

I love this shit.

Along with Hus Kingpin, Roc Marci...

to get accustomed to Westside's high pitched voice, but I'm all in. There's a new project with him and a Brit producer named The Purist. It's titled Roses Are Red... So Is Blood. I believe the Alchemist is a fan, so it'll be interesting to see if the two work together. Hopefully Conway will be included as well as I think he's better than Westside.


I'm not saying there are are the same in terms of influence or skill level or whatever, so I don't want to see anyone get bent out of shape, but I'd love to hear Conway and Kool G Rap on a track together. Would be quite the interesting collaboration.

dis hard...Westside Gunn and the Purist EP

https://soundcloud.com/thepurist/the-purist-westside-gunn-roses-are-red-so-is-blood

Can't front when I first heard him on Skyzoo's last joint I thought he sounded awful and couldn't see myself dealing with that voice but he's grown on me a ton.

That's where I'm at too. Initially couldn't rock with his voice. Now I fux widdit.

soulful hip hop is life

would be fun to hear on a track together, just to hear how the all the ad-libs all four dudes would bring on the same track would sound.

I'm a little biased so I need to let it marinate for a while but so far it's one of my favs of the year.

how can you front on this?

https://soundcloud.com/bigghostltd/06-richer-porter

EP goes by the name of Don't Get Scared Now.

Majority of the tracks produced by their in house producer Daringer; all except on one done by The Alchemist where he once again displays pure beat wizardry, if that's a word. For those that are Prodigy fans, he's one one of the tracks as well.

Most importantly, here's the link: https://soundcloud.com/user-5212897/sets/dont-get-scared-now

the slow tempo, psychedelic arrangement, and wide swaths of open space in the verses all remind me of current atlanta music

but then you have these 90s-style jazz and soul samples, westside and conway's voices and deliveries complementing each other, and vivid descriptions of drug crimes, which recalls classic 90s east coast rap albums and the standard of rapping those albums helped establish

it's fantastic combination. i hope these guys can find success with this sound because it's very intriguing

>Almost none of their stuff has hooks though.
>Guess still learning.

...stylistic choice to me, especially considering gunn's DOOM appreciation

I'm a fan.

Who/what is on this cover art here?: http://www.xxlmag.com/files/2016/05/griselda.jpg

I assumed that was a guy on the cover; it's a drawing of Griselda Blanco.


I am a moron.

Thank you

>anybody up on these cats from Buffalo?
>
>They are clearly influenced by Only Built and Ironman era Wu.
>
>Fly street shit. Soul samples.
>Almost none of their stuff has hooks though.
>Guess still learning.
>
>appears Skyzoo and Roc Marciano cosign.
>
>
>Westside Gunn - Mr. T (produced by Apollo Brown)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiZWaWXubIw
>
>Westside Gunn - Hitler Wears Hermes LP
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fQ-yMmZBgM
>
>Westside Gunn & Conway the Machine - Griselda Ghost EP
>(PRODUCED by BIG GHOST LTD. ... YES THAT BIG GHOST...
>the best production they spit on imo)
>
>Conway the Machine - Blakk Tape
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmjbwU6L4HI
>
>Westside Gunn and Conway the Machine - Hall & Nash EP
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uvtqtzYqP8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1o2rnJA0Rg

just ...raw. jesus

i get strong beanie sigel and jadakiss vibes from him: no nonsense ultra-violent lyrics, variations on the same double rhyme for long stretches ("bape on you / wait on you / cake on you"), and a ton of compound rhymes. he's pretty good

i hope the griselda crew can find that sweet spot of referencing older hip hop styles and sounds without sounding old. songs like "BIRDY" and "mr. t" not having traditional drums is a good start, as are the slower songs like "ajax" that evoke modern atlanta sounds

.

this is pretty tough though

...on a recent summer song compilation: http://www.audiomack.com/album/jayslippers/summer-2016-mixtape-small-professor

(namely "king city" by gunn & "rex ryan" (so good) & "wraith-ful" by conway

---> https://soundcloud.com/user-5212897/sets/theres-god-then-theres-flygod-praise-both

---> https://soundcloud.com/kannon5/sets/reject-2

So good.

Conway got a similar joint, the 50 Drum mixtape.

Both joints are over 200 mbs but SO GOOD.

conway's joint is the same. these dudes are the shit on another level.

so good. glad to see so many others feel the same.

Conway the Machine - BIRDY ---> https://youtu.be/V1o2rnJA0Rg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j8MrE5g0hM

.

https://soundcloud.com/user-5212897/conway-ft-westsidegunn-lobos

Looking that the twitter accounts from both guys, it appears this is a track from an upcoming track from Conway's new album that is set to drop this year. The album is titled G.O.A.T.

https://soundcloud.com/closed-sessions/dj-rude-one-andre-drummond-featuring-conway-the-machine

we're not gonna let this post slip off the first page this year. NOT AGAIN.

like, I can barely tolerate it. Conway...I fuck with dude.

*screwface*

https://soundcloud.com/user-5212897/sets/conway-x-prodigy-hell-still-on

.

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2016/09/apollo-brown-skyzoo-basquiat-on-the-draw/

https://soundcloud.com/blacksopranofamily/tom-ford-socks

lil homie love to grip his ruger
he *17* but he he been a shooter like Dennis Schröder...

(stinkface)

n!ggas threw shots but couldn't shoot well
they shot and missed, I'm Popovich, my shooters move well
without the ball, catch and shoot
draw play, they execute
full court press a n!gga, SE forever n!gga...

(screwface)

about to dive down the rabbit hole on these cats
and i don't even mess with too much gun talk these days

>https://soundcloud.com/blacksopranofamily/tom-ford-socks
>
>lil homie love to grip his ruger
>he *17* but he he been a shooter like Dennis Schröder...
>
>(stinkface)
>
>n!ggas threw shots but couldn't shoot well
>they shot and missed, I'm Popovich, my shooters move well
>without the ball, catch and shoot
>draw play, they execute
>full court press a n!gga, SE forever n!gga...
>
>(screwface)
>
>about to dive down the rabbit hole on these cats
>and i don't even mess with too much gun talk these days

he's special.
he's a real lyricist.

I listened to the majority of 50 Round Drum today and that boy got it, man. I hadn't heard him on anything but the grimiest of grimy shit and I gotta say that I was impressed that he's able to flip different styles. that kid is an MCs MC. a lot of dudes may claim the street (and may actually truly be), but this kid is a student of the art of rapping. he might be in the wrong era to achieve the level of attention and accolades he deserves, but gotdammit...that boy raps his ass off. he's got my full attention everytime he pops up on a track.

And you can tell it's not just grimey bar rap fro Conway. Like he's a total rap nerd and got more styles than the stuff from Griselda would have you think. Truthfully one of the most gifted MCs to come out in some time.

>And you can tell it's not just grimey bar rap fro Conway.
>Like he's a total rap nerd and got more styles than the stuff
>from Griselda would have you think. Truthfully one of the most
>gifted MCs to come out in some time.

you nailed it bro. this guy is special. and to be spitting that hard and WELL with only half of his face being operational? that's truly some amazing shit.

kush trap in Atlanta, jumpin like Bazemore
Dude is a fool.

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they got joints. I still need to dig into their catalogue.

About to find out now.

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Guilty Simpson & Conway the Machine - Vega Bros
https://soundcloud.com/bigghostltd/conway-x-guilty-simpson-vega-bros

and camp lo

in that one guy basically gets by on his delivery but still occasionally has great lines and the other guy contrasts that with skillfully crafted bars and carefully considered lyrics. i love it when they trade bars on songs like "free chapo" and "brains on the basquiat"

>and camp lo
>
>in that one guy basically gets by on his delivery but still
>occasionally has great lines and the other guy contrasts that
>with skillfully crafted bars and carefully considered lyrics.
>i love it when they trade bars on songs like "free chapo" and
>"brains on the basquiat"



I'm a Nice & Smooth STAN but you're overselling Smooth Bee's role. And Camp Lo are indistinguishable to me.

Future Westside Gunn track: https://www.instagram.com/p/BLSxJ_ABlaO/

Future Conway the Machine track: https://www.instagram.com/p/BLTB33nBm-F/

That Conway snippet though.

So mean.

So mean.

Here's a Revolt TV special on Westside Gunn and Conway The Machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJSpfNINAXk

I'm curious what folks here think. I'll bite my tongue so I don't influence what folks might say.

I got it all cued p to listen to it tomorrow morning at the gym.

>I'm curious what folks here think. I'll bite my tongue so I
>don't influence what folks might say.


i thought his album was gonna drop halloween for some reason

now im reading its black friday

blah


new dave east should hold me over until then

gonna rock it tomm while on the couch working

but the beats are CRAZY!! Mr. Fuji and The Nitro are my joints, right now. I personally think Conway is a better rapper than Westside, but I like this project a lot. I'll definitely revisit it, but with rockin this Common now, then ATCQ and Tanya Morgan dropping Friday...not sure when.

.

How you can't fk with this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuqVNN13z_A

these dudes continue to impress me....and keep comin with it...

aside from the murda-murda-kill-kill which I can't support these days esp comin from our community...

but gatdamn if these dudes ain't live!

Nitro probably my favorite song, love when they styles / jada shit.

and Aunt Rosie's is just stupid crazy lol.

Supreme era Ghost would've made that one of my favorite songs ever,
can say that with the utmost confidence.

http://shadyrecords.com/2017/03/03/shady-x-griselda-ink-deal-for-westside-gunn-and-conway/

Shady Records announces today that it has signed an exclusive deal with Buffalo, NY-based hip-hop label Griselda Records for artists Westside Gunn and Conway. In doing so, the rappers — who are also brothers — become the first out of Buffalo to sign a deal with major label distribution. Griselda was founded by Westside Gunn in 2014.

The pair got their start in the early 2000’s, with Conway steadily earning a reputation as one of the most skilled rappers in the region, while Gunn worked as his manager, eventually developing his own career as an artist and launching Griselda. Since breaking onto the scene with the label’s independently-released mixtapes and a series of SoundCloud-released music, Gunn and Conway have caught the attention of the media and fans alike, garnering respect from everyone from DJ Premier and Pete Rock, to Anderson.Paak, to Oscar-winner Mahershala Ali. A growing cult following has resulted in Griselda’s vinyl releases and label merchandise selling out in mere minutes, while murals of the two rappers and their album covers have popped up on walls in cities across the United States and in places as far-flung as Australia, France, Romania, and the U.K.

Commented Eminem: “The style and energy of Griselda Records, Gunn and Conway are infectious. We can’t wait to put them on the platform they have earned and deserve.”
“We’re bringing a new sound to the game, but it’s also reminiscent of the grimey 90’s,” said Griselda founder and recording artist Westside Gunn. “Art is in everything we do…it’s the essence. We’re fusing boom-bap/dark sounds with the hipster cool kid lifestyle. A new lane is being carved.”

Aside from their solo projects, Gunn and Conway also record together as Hall n’ Nash (paying homage to their favorite WWE tag team The Outsiders). They recently completed a soon-to-be-released project with The Alchemist, and the duo will also be releasing an album under the Shady deal. Westside Gunn’s last project was the Hitler Wears Hermes 4 mixtape, which was released in October. The 11-track project includes features from Stalley, Conway, Smoke DZA and more. Conway has been steadily releasing tracks for his Devil’s Reject mixtape series and has been heard on Shade 45’s Tony Touch and Statik Selektah shows.

I'm just selfishly happy since this means it should be easier to purchase physical copies of their works. I felt like I won the lotto when I was able to cop a CD of Flygod last year.

I'm hoping this was the reason why that Conway GOAT album was delayed.

I'm also hoping Eminem won't meddle too much in terms of how they make their records.

>I'm just selfishly happy since this means it should be easier
>to purchase physical copies of their works. I felt like I won
>the lotto when I was able to cop a CD of Flygod last year.
>
>I'm hoping this was the reason why that Conway GOAT album was
>delayed.
>
>I'm also hoping Eminem won't meddle too much in terms of how
>they make their records.

I know there are some recs in the initial post, but that was over a year ago. Can anyone give me an updated list of projects/albums/mixtapes/whatever that I should check for?

Thank you kindly.

First, Conway's 50 Round Drum mixtape. It's long but worth it and covers the best of Jimmy Conway aka Conway The Machine while mixing it up with freestyles over industry beats and him just doing his thing.

The next is Westside Gunn Extendos mixtape. Same concept as Conway's joint above. Long, but covers a good gap of what Gunn is about.

That should be your starting points then you can jump around a bit. Conway's got mixtapes dating back to 2008 that I've been able to find online but you're not missing much (although he's been good a really long time).

>I know there are some recs in the initial post, but that was
>over a year ago. Can anyone give me an updated list of
>projects/albums/mixtapes/whatever that I should check for?
>
>Thank you kindly.

thanks

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sent

>I know there are some recs in the initial post, but that was
>over a year ago. Can anyone give me an updated list of
>projects/albums/mixtapes/whatever that I should check for?
>
>Thank you kindly.

Hitler on Steroids

https://www.audiomack.com/album/dotgotitcom/hitler-on-steroids
http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/westside-gunn-hitler-on-steroids-new-mixtape.116935.html
http://www.datpiff.com/Westside-Gunn-Hitler-On-Steroids-mixtape.832061.html

https://soundcloud.com/shadyrecords/machinegunblack

This is great.

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>https://soundcloud.com/shadyrecords/machinegunblack
>
>This is great.

Just saw the Netflix Rapture series with Just Blaze. There's a scene where he makes a song with WSG and Conway but its not this track. More of a gospel sound, shit is fire

http://hiphopdx.com/news/id.42581/title.eminem-signs-griselda-records-westside-gunn-conway-to-shady-records

years now...this is really good news for them...It's been a long time since anyone in hip-hop grinded this hard...they deserve this....no one has a stronger catalogue of music in recent memory...BENNY is also dope as hell...love these dudes

He was previously selling it for $300(ridiculous) but has finally released it and its now streaming on SoundCloud. Way better rapper than Westside, and I prefer him over Conway as well but that's mostly a push. Album is fire, I'm not paying no damn $300 but I would definitely pay money for this if he decided to put it up for retail.

Listen to HBO by Mach-Hommy #np on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/mach-hommy/sets/hbo-haitian-body-odor

or he tries to fit too many rhymes into the bar

sometimes it sounds cool but i dont think hes anywhere NEAR conway (no one is right now)

and westside is cool, but im not a *huge* fan.

willie da kid does that whole Fly God shit much better (imo)

>He was previously selling it for $300(ridiculous) but has
>finally released it and its now streaming on SoundCloud. Way
>better rapper than Westside, and I prefer him over Conway as
>well but that's mostly a push. Album is fire, I'm not paying
>no damn $300 but I would definitely pay money for this if he
>decided to put it up for retail.
>
>Listen to HBO by Mach-Hommy #np on
>#SoundCloud
>https://soundcloud.com/mach-hommy/sets/hbo-haitian-body-odor

>and westside is cool, but im not a *huge* fan.
>
> willie da kid does that whole Fly God shit much better (imo)
>

WTK is so underrated.

>>and westside is cool, but im not a *huge* fan.
>>
>> willie da kid does that whole Fly God shit much better
>(imo)
>>
>
>WTK is so underrated.

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His verse on Gold Pots is my shit.

I liked his off-beat ass slow style. Nobody rapped like that.

He always sounded out of place on their tracks....Conway is 1000x better than Hommy. The only one who can hold a candle is BENNY. He's ruthless..

>He always sounded out of place on their tracks....Conway is
>1000x better than Hommy. The only one who can hold a candle is
>BENNY. He's ruthless..

Like people are saying, his flow is unorthodox,
I like it on some songs and sometimes I don't think it works.
His pen game is pretty sharp though.

he's sloppy on the ends because his cadence is in the pattern. Y'all listening to how he matches the beat....he's listening how he matched the 1st 12 couplets in his line.

Those who don't spit shouldn't speak on cadence.

Fuck I know tho

D

>he's sloppy on the ends because his cadence is in the
>pattern. Y'all listening to how he matches the beat....he's
>listening how he matched the 1st 12 couplets in his line.
>
>Those who don't spit shouldn't speak on cadence.
>
>Fuck I know tho
>
>D

basically a lot of non-rappers don't hear it's a style.

>he's sloppy on the ends because his cadence is in the
>pattern. Y'all listening to how he matches the beat....he's
>listening how he matched the 1st 12 couplets in his line.
>
>Those who don't spit shouldn't speak on cadence.
>
>Fuck I know tho
>
>D

Im guessing this has something to do with the Shady deal. Shame as the album was growing on me.

datpiff only for now:

http://www.datpiff.com/Westside-Gunn-Hitler-On-Steroids-mixtape.832061.html

"100,000 machine guns" ft. royce da 5'9 and conway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foIDY1Vn5B0

They are very dope..

They are very dope..

https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Brick-Explicit-Benny/dp/B01MAVXFE3/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489358562&sr=8-1&keywords=benny+my+first+brick


god damn..

this shit is so beautiful. its weird how some buffalo guys are carrying new york (dave east cool too...don q could be dope if he'd stop dick riding atl rappers/trap beats)

I'd love to hear Benny and Conway on a track together since they both appear take serious effort when they sit down and write their rhymes.

It'll be interesting to see if Benny gets a decent amount of shine with their new Shady deal since Griselda has been top heavy in terms of focusing on Westside and Conway. Sounds like Benny can definitely hold his own.

without actually listening to it? Lol, Conway is literally featured on two tracks

>without actually listening to it? Lol, Conway is literally
>featured on two tracks


I meant a full project, like an album or an EP, similar to the Hall and Nash stuff Conway does with Westside Gunn. Preferably over harder edged beats than the ones of that First Brick release.

Does anyone here know much will change as result of the deal? In particular, it seemed as if Westside Gunn was in charge of the business side of things for himself and Conway; is that still the same? Also, will the physical records get wider releases so folks can actually have an easier chance of buying them?

New video for Cooked in Hell's Kitchen by Conway the Machine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8T6W9Bmaq0

.

I remember not really feeling that song when I initially heard it months ago, but I adore it. That guitar line especially hits hard with the visuals from the song.

I can't wait for that GOAT album to drop.

14 minute joint, more like a mini EP.

https://soundcloud.com/user-5212897/raw-is-flygod-daringer-x-westsidegunn-x-ws-pootie

http://www.datpiff.com/Conway-Reject-On-Steroids-mixtape.845275.html

Reject on Steroids is fire.

so is this freestyle on Sway in the morning


https://youtu.be/OqqgClD-fsE?t=1633

They're on a six or seven show tour if my memory serves me right. I believe they are selling merch/CDs on the tour as well. Of course since the NYC show was on a Monday night of all nights, I did not go. I wonder if the Shady Records signing is why this tour got started.

They are on a ton of festivals this year, and I'd like to know if they are worth skipping someone else's set to see?

I get the feeling that Gunn don't move on stage at all but Conway might have some energy.

No, this isn't a new song as the video for this was uploaded early last year, buy I figured not that many folks know about this Pounds person (I don't), so I figured this song may be new to some folks here. Conway's verse on here is one of the best I've heard him spit, which is saying something.

Here's a link: https://tinyurl.com/ya9s8ezx

Where can I BUY these dudes' (and their collaborators)
music? Is it all on Soundcloud?

I'm having a strange hard time simply just getting my
hands on all their shit in one, organized place.

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

They do limited edition CD pressings and everything else is streaming

Either you give them their paper on the release or you can fuck with this 128kbps like er'body else.

D

>They do limited edition CD pressings and everything else is
>streaming
>
>Either you give them their paper on the release or you can
>fuck with this 128kbps like er'body else.
>
>D

Sounds like an odd/interesting business model, but I'm
not judging whatsoever. Good for them (I guess).


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

It isn't listed for purchase there anymore though. The new EP is though.

I mean, I have money.

I want to give it to these dudes.

And they aren't making it particularly easy.

*shrugs*

is to follow their twitter or instagram accounts since they announce when their products are available. If you are looking for physical material, visit whoisconway.com for works from Conway The Machine and bennythebutcherstore.com for works from Benny. Westside Gunn mostly sells clothes from his website, so I won't waste you time there.

All three also partner with Daupe, a very indie British imprint that partners will artists to re-release vinyl and tape versions of their works. They typically only have 200-300 copies of the albums when ever they are sold and literally sell out in a minute or so, so good luck on that front. If you are curious, visit daupe.bandcamp.com.

I bought a CD copy of Flygod via direct communication with Westside Gunn on his instagram account and CDs of G.O.A.T and Reject 2 from Conway's website.

Good luck snagging material from thembecause like you, I am annoyed it is hard to purchase physical copies of music from these guys, especially since I prefer buying vinyl these days. Hopefully the Shady deal will eventually make it easier to buy physical copies of their material.

>
>Where can I BUY these dudes' (and their collaborators)
>music? Is it all on Soundcloud?
>
>I'm having a strange hard time simply just getting my
>hands on all their shit in one, organized place.
>
>----------------------------
>
>
>
>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
>
>
>
>
>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
>
>(C)Keith Murray, "

This track being Easter Gunday 3. The first element that deserves attention is how simple yet utter ill this beat is. It's almost a shame is this for a free track, but Daringer did his thing with this. Secondly is how Benny melds perfectly to this. He attacks this better than Westside Gunn does, which I suppose isn't a complete surprise to most that follow Griselda. Last but not least is Westside Gunn. He takes a good amount of time dumping on Tha God Fahim, Mach Hommy, and I believe Camouflage Monk, which surprises me since I believe Camouflage Monk is a producer and doesn't even rap if I'm not mistaken. Like Westside Gunn himself said during the song, Mach Hommy was on Easter Gunday 2 last year. I suppose the Griselda circle is becoming that much smaller. Have either Mach Hommy, Fahim, or Camouflage Monk responded to this yet? Pretty interesting rap beef since I'd imagine Buffalo isn't all that big.

Here's a link for folks that haven't heard it yet: https://soundcloud.com/gxfr/easter-gunday-3-westside-gunn-ft-benny-keisha-plum

I can't believe it, but my first reaction to the production credits was, "Damn, not completely produced by Daringer"? lol. But nah, this shit might be bananas. I hope the guests don't crowd the album tho.

https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.47027/title.westside-gunn-shares-chris-benoit-album-tracklist

1. Big Homie Arn
2. GOD$ Don't Bleed ft Jadakiss/Benny (prod by Daringer)
3. Dean Malenko (prod by Daringer)
4. Brutus ft Benny/Conway (prod by Pete Rock)
5. Amherst Station (prod by Daringer)
6. RVD ft Keisha Plum (prod by Daringer)
7. Elizabeth (prod by Alchemist)
8. Mean Gene (prod by Alchemist)
9. StefflonDon (prod by SADHU Gold & Hesh)
10. Sabu (prod by SADHU Gold)
11. Brossface Brippler ft Benny/Bustah Rhymes (prod by Alchemist)
12. Spanish Jesus ft Crimeapple (prod by Harry Fraud)
13. The Steiners ft ELZHI (prod by Pete Rock)
14. Ric Martel ft Roc Marciano (prod by Roc Marciano)
15. WESTSIDE (prod by Statik Selektah)
16. Wrestlemania 20 ft Anderson. Paak (prod by 9th Wonder)
17. AA Outro (prod by Harry Fraud)

that list is looking pretty crazy

i trust all these producers to bring the heat and it's probably better to have a bunch of well placed guests than a whole album worth of westside gunn (as much as i love the guy)

damn.

yeah, we here for this. shit.

>1. Big Homie Arn
>2. GOD$ Don't Bleed ft Jadakiss/Benny (prod by Daringer)
>3. Dean Malenko (prod by Daringer)
>4. Brutus ft Benny/Conway (prod by Pete Rock)
>5. Amherst Station (prod by Daringer)
>6. RVD ft Keisha Plum (prod by Daringer)
>7. Elizabeth (prod by Alchemist)
>8. Mean Gene (prod by Alchemist)
>9. StefflonDon (prod by SADHU Gold & Hesh)
>10. Sabu (prod by SADHU Gold)
>11. Brossface Brippler ft Benny/Bustah Rhymes (prod by
>Alchemist)
>12. Spanish Jesus ft Crimeapple (prod by Harry Fraud)
>13. The Steiners ft ELZHI (prod by Pete Rock)
>14. Ric Martel ft Roc Marciano (prod by Roc Marciano)
>15. WESTSIDE (prod by Statik Selektah)
>16. Wrestlemania 20 ft Anderson. Paak (prod by 9th Wonder)
>17. AA Outro (prod by Harry Fraud)

That's interesting. For those that aren't aware, Lotto is a new song Westside dropped about a week or two ago that's produced by Green Lantern and features Benny the Butcher. The way Westside was hyping thre track up on social media, I thought for certain he's include it on here since the video for it features Chris Benoit.


Here's to hoping 1) this is top notch material and 2) I can actually purchase a physical copy of this when it drops.

still arranged goofily, but once it settles into its own thing it's pretty dope. HWH6 made me revisit, as i reallllly dig that one

Like when the album drops can we discuss it in another thread?

additionally, is anyone here from Buffalo?

These cats give me alot of what I loved about Perb. He was the perfect complement to Ghost outside of Rae, and the joints I heard him spit on outside of the Wu albums was promising. I really like these dudes though. Ain't nuthin like that genuine east coast boom bap fire.

>These cats give me alot of what I loved about Perb. He was
>the perfect complement to Ghost outside of Rae, and the joints
>I heard him spit on outside of the Wu albums was promising. I
>really like these dudes though. Ain't nuthin like that genuine
>east coast boom bap fire.

It's hard to really pinpoint what made Perb dope, but more often than not I found his raps really refreshing. He didn't try to write in some super complex style, he just thought different.

but that's what made him so dope. Like that cat off the corner who just has natuarl ability to put pictures into words. His "We Made It" verse is still magic to me.

https://youtu.be/HPMgi0bSB0Q

https://alclaboratories.bandcamp.com/album/fork-in-the-pot-94-ghost-shit-12-vinyl

conway's verse 😓

q sounds invigorated. sounds like habits and contradictions q

alch refusing to come out of his bag

according to info I saw on their respective social media accounts, it appears a Shady/Griselda project will finally drop. It'll feature Westside Gunn, Conway the Macine, and Benny the Butcher altogether. I believe Daringer and another producer I've never heard of will handle production, so I'm assuming that means Eminem wouldn't meddle too much with this. I wonder which additional artists will make appearances on this.

Interesting it took two years since news of them signing with Shady for even news of a project to finally emerge. I'm hoping I will have a fairly easy time purchasing this project, assuming of course this album isn't pure rubbish.

I'm hoping the two songs they previewed with Just Blaze on the boards will drop with this

and are we ever going to get Conway's actual debut album? not just a bunch of soundcloud mixtapes

cant wait for that "plugs i met" album by Benny though

it's really hard to listen to him after Machine or Benny have flowed...they're both SO much better than him. You right, too, I mean he doesn't really rap or tell stories it's just..."I had the ill Louboutin galoshes, lookin like Iron Sheik at the Plaza...AYO!!"

>I mean he doesn't really rap or tell stories it's
>just..."I had the ill Louboutin galoshes, lookin like Iron
>Sheik at the Plaza...AYO!!"

That is... very accurate.

That said, Supreme Blientele is an excellent album. But indeed at this point Benny and Conway have very much lapped him and then some.

even still, my favorite song on the album, GODS Don't Bleed, I skip right after Kiss' verse.

in the last 6-8 months or so; that's including Supreme Blientele and Tana Talk 3. I think I said it around the time it was released, but if Benny the Butcher got the beats for Supreme Blientele instead of Westside Gunn, that would have be a 5 mic album. The beats for the majority of Benny's solo releases, including Tana Talk 3 are way too pedestrian and boring for me to pay attention to his raps. I'm sure that's outside of popular opinion since I've seen that album get huge praise. And Conway's drips and drabs have been very very very very underwhelming, especially given how stellar he is on the microphone. I'm hoping this Shady release will get these dudes to sharpen their skills since all three will have to share the microphone at time across one album. That and the fact I'm assuming this album will get much wider exposure compared to the stuff they've released so far.

A solo. Which was confusing because I thought for sure
it would be a a Hall & Nash joint.
Now adding Benny so it’s NWO (3 guys)
Hopefully WSG is picking the beats.
Been beggin for him to exec produce a Conway album.
They need someone to actually step in and produce them though...
Tell them hey guys, we need songs. Let’s come up with some concepts, some better song names.
Because before you know it, they gonna be naming songs
shit like - The Rap Sasha Banks -
because they’ll already have used all the dope wrestling dudes.

https://ambrosiaforheads.com/2019/08/benny-butcher-westside-gunn-jay-z-roc-nation/







>anybody up on these cats from Buffalo?
>
>They are clearly influenced by Only Built and Ironman era Wu.
>
>Fly street shit. Soul samples.
>Almost none of their stuff has hooks though.
>Guess still learning.
>
>appears Skyzoo and Roc Marciano cosign.
>
>
>Westside Gunn - Mr. T (produced by Apollo Brown)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiZWaWXubIw
>
>Westside Gunn - Hitler Wears Hermes LP
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fQ-yMmZBgM
>
>Westside Gunn & Conway the Machine - Griselda Ghost EP
>(PRODUCED by BIG GHOST LTD. ... YES THAT BIG GHOST...
>the best production they spit on imo)
>
>Conway the Machine - Blakk Tape
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmjbwU6L4HI
>
>Westside Gunn and Conway the Machine - Hall & Nash EP
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uvtqtzYqP8

Can't we just discuss the music in a new post when there is new music to discuss?