It's out there


And it's fire

http://i.imgur.com/S4MYFQO.gif

I'll be honest, my state of mind is much more in the mood for this Bronsolino album right now. I'll come back to K Dot at some point.

... I was clamoring for more Bam Bam type music.

The weather's getting nice outside, I want that lighthearted, ignorant, fun shit right now.

.

easily.

To be clear, Bronson isn't the problem. He holds up his end of things. One thing I worried about before the album was released was that there was going to be a concerted effort into making Bronson a more "well-rounded" MC. And, fortunately, Bronson gets to be Bronson on this. And Big Body Bes gets to do his thing too. The first five tracks feel like a Bronson album in all it's glory.

Then, I don't know, chunks of the second half the whole thing stops being as fun. Musically, it starts taking itself too seriously. Was "City Boy Blues" really necessary? Or the three minunte guitar/keyboard solo to finish off "A Light in the Addict"? Or the entirety of "The Passage"?

There's gems on the second half, like "Baby Blue", "Only in America," "Galatic Love," and "Easy Rider," but other stuff drags it down.

So I'm glad Bronson is doing his thing lyrically, and this will get more listens, but off the rip, I like just about all his free releases better.

takes itself a lil too seriously in second half.
some unnecessary bits.

on the back half of Light In The Addict

and you'll feel like "this is the most Bronson thing ever"

It can only work with one song.

If you cross off Thug Love Story 2017, The Passage, and City Boy Blues (which is still actually pretty good, or at least funny for the novelty of Bronson singing a blues song in the middle of his debut album lol) that's still 10 outta 13. I can't say I'm disappointed at all. And I like the soloing at the end of Light in the Addict

"Light in the Addict" isn't bad, just the guitar and key solo seem out of place. It'll definitely get some more spins.

<shrug>

just seems like bronson being bronson and doing whatever comes to mind.

AB fucked it up though. Majorly!

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this stuff is as good as the mixtape stuff. Different production as far as Mark Ronson isnt enough. I really think he could be so much bigger than he is, I think hes a much better artist than we have seen. That huge personality isnt being used to its full potential in the songs.




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Because they didn't come up with it on their own, they
don't have any second act, no evolution, no artistic
trajectories that emerges from an essential aura

Bronson listened to a lot of Ghostface. He stole the cartoony
rhymes. The Sexcapades. The imagery. He can actually rhyme
well, and so he gave us a few hits.

Unlike Ghostface, he doesn't actually feel that way, and
so we have nothing more to learn about him. There is no
different way for him to present what's in his head to us.

His best bet is to appease white rap fans by being a goofy
internet persona. He'll make money that way, and good for
him.

You, however, are enraged.

Kendrick didn't make the album that you wanted, and
now the one you were waiting for next is doo doo
shallow biting


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

when Dr. Lector dropped I never expected him to get this "big". I thought has gunna disappear

then he got good / interesting

didnt even unzip the rar

edit, i bet the beats were amazing though.

i fuck (random ethnicity) bitches
eat (random ethnicity) dishes
im (80s wwe character)
fuck with me sleep with the fishes

rinse repeat

and aimed at someone else, this could be a decent Big Body Bes rant.

Lol

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Is this as bad as the internet is saying it is?

Sounds like they actually looked to the Dirk Diggler self indulgent studio scene from Boogie Nights as genuine inspiration for the album, and weren't merely spoofing it.

>Sounds like they actually looked to the Dirk Diggler self
>indulgent studio scene from Boogie Nights as genuine
>inspiration for the album, and weren't merely spoofing it.



YOU GOT THE TOUCH....YOU GOT THE POWEEEEERRRRR

Went back to Kendrick immediately afterwards but if you like Bronson, def give it a listen.

edit, but that slim thug paul wall track goes

>Went back to Kendrick immediately afterwards but if you like
>Bronson, def give it a listen.

Hug?


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

If you liked Blue Chips 1 & 2, Saaab Stories, Rare Chandeliers, etc you'll like this.

I think his rhymes on here aren't necessarily as great as they have been at their peak, the production is still great though, and there's plenty here to like.

He sings on a few tracks and it's pretty funny and actually not BAD, it's cheeky like everything else he does.

for his big debut.

Instead of going big, what he does here is branch out...but over his usual 50 minute run time. He's wasting(?) time on hooks, skits, instrumental breaks, non-rap songs, etc.

Which takes time away from his formula (short, one or two verse rap tracks, lil bit of trash talk before and after verses), which means this isn't an album stacked front to back with Bronson doing what Bronson does best, like we got on the free lps.

Which makes it feel like he didn't deliver.

Lulz

I LOOOOOOOOOOVED Rare Chandeliers, loved loved loved it, and I liked the promise he showed on earlier stuff (though I never dug the Party Supplies releases) but this is just...there. I hear the Ghostface stuff more than I ever did before, and around half the tracks are memorable for stuff that ISN'T Bronson.


I like that this album proves 2015 is all about rappers trying to branch out and do different stuff, but I don't like that Bronson was one of those dudes.


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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

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>I like that this album proves 2015 is all about rappers trying
>to branch out and do different stuff, but I don't like that
>Bronson was one of those dudes.

He doesn't really have anything to tell us in rap songs.

His brand is made. He's got fans. He'll do other shit.

He'll make music to promote the other stuff.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

needing an A/R for this album like someone mentioned in a response above, I read somewhere that Alchemist served as an A/R for Rare Chandeliers in that he forced A/B to re-do verses over and over again during the time to record that mixtape. And like you, I much much prefer Rare Chandeliers to this waste of an album.

Given this is a major label debut, I wonder what the process was for selecting the tracks for this, muchless who served as an A/R for this as well.

**edit**

As bad as I think this release is, I don't think the 'party' is over for him since he's been touring for some time now well before he dropped this clunker of an album. Unless his fans are completely fickle, I think he'll be alright.

...and really the major problem is the Ghetto Love/City Boy Blues combo. It comes pretty close to derailing the album, killing the album dead in its tracks, and making it hard to recover. That's the one big flaw, having a bad blues song right in the meat of the album. Everything that comes before it and goes after it is dope. Take that away, and "Light in the Addict" works fine. Even "The Passage" is a suitable prelude to "Easy Rider." But with "City Boys Blues" there, it's hard to regain the momentum.

Closest something like this has happened for me before is Raekwon's "Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang." It's an album I tend to enjoy, but right dead in the middle is "Rock and Roll," which is also horribly wack.

Not his best though. I like him more when it's just one producer and one sound.

Comes off like more of an "oh BTW, here" mixtape between albums than anything else.

Maybe over time I'll change my mind.

I am enjoying a good chunk of it for what it is tho. So I can't say its wack exactly. It's worth listening to, but I sure as hell wouldn't use it to introduce anyone to Action Bronson.

All over the place and no different than previous (free) releases.

And by less I mean none. Never been a fan of his Party Supplies collabs so not surprised that I don't dig the album much. Not a fan of Mark Ronson either. That Oh No beat is more my liking. He got about 5 joints I can rock with. The album is just kinda there. Not disappointed though because dude isn't that great IMO.

A lot of the stuff on the Blue Chips tapes was goofy, and/or wholesale sampling of well-known pop songs like Bad Boy circa 1997, but that's just typical mixtape shit to an extent, exaggerated like everything Bronson does. But more traditional beats like like 9-24-11, Tan Leather, Pouches of Tuna, Twin Peugots, Rolling Thunder, 9-24-13 were some of my favorite tracks Bronson has rapped over.

So when he's taking it seriously and not in cartoon mode, I think he's a very capable hip-hop producer. And the beats he did on Mr. Wonderful were of the serious variety to me. I really like the production on Easy Rider (that guitar sample is crazy) and A Light In The Addict. The only other thing he did on here was The Passage which just seems like a prelude into Easy Rider rather than a separate thing.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson


"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're

This is lazy, entitled Hip Hop

He is a good rapper, but this has no imagination, zero
urgency, zero soul

Shame on him

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

You're usually so on point with your agendas, not seeing how you whiff this one so widely

>You're usually so on point with your agendas, not seeing how
>you whiff this one so widely

Two talented artists and authentic dudes with a solid body of
work but who were conflicted because they didn't know what
they wanted to be, and weren't sure exactly which kind of fans
to appease

Both misfired badly on their big releases

Bronson went for the fratboy lowest common denominator,
selling the goofball "white guy that's not corny but
can still make butt and fart jokes" angle

Brown went for something of the same, but with the "super
odd black guy" angle...zero chance his team didn't watch
Odd Future's success...shame because Brown was so much
more authentically different than anyone in Odd Future
(I'm in the 'XXX' was a near masterpiece camp)


'Mr. Wonderful' is slightly better than 'Old', but both are
WTF projects, misguided, pretentious, entitled, bullshit.


Make dope music, and the fans follow.


These niggas need career consultants.

>(I'm in the 'XXX' was a near masterpiece camp)


i cant deal anymore.

>
>>(I'm in the 'XXX' was a near masterpiece camp)
>
>
>i cant deal anymore.

I felt it

Can't lie, I don't like it quite as much today as
I did...definitely a record that sounded better the
first time you banged it with good headphones

Still an excellent album

In fact, let me give it another spin just to see

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Rhymes about a lot of similar subject matter, but undeniably creative with what he says.

He's clever by today's standards

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

I agree that this album seems regressive/tired in terms of wordplay.

I think the mixtape format, no constraints suits him better/gives him more freedom

I streamed it and debating whether I'll ever listen to any of these songs again. It's not bad, just boring and uninspired.

Swap him out for Party Supplies and this project mighta had a chance.

The sound they're going for production wise on Only In America is so cynically whiteboy fraternity funk-rock that it's sad.

The Passage is just a passage of time on the way to Easy Rider which I guess is supposed to be the album's magnum opus but if you really had to sit thru all this bullshit to get there then by then it's tough to care.

That joint is nearly a year old already and was always a better video than song anyway.

I don't know how Party Supplies, Ronson or Bronson got AB gassed enough to think he was gonna really be able to make this new acid-rock fake shit work for a full album, especially on his debut.

I get wanting to do something different and hey, on Baby Blue at least, it works in a ramshackle kinda charming one-off way.

But those should have been the exceptions to the norm.

This dude is not a dynamic enough artist to play around too much or divert too far from his formula and his collaborators in Party Supplies are certainly not the ones to put it together.

Alchemist did well on Terry, the other two beats felt like interlude leftovers.

That opening Billy Joel loop and sung-hook on Brand New Car was trash, tho I'm sure using Joel in that way was some kind of childhood Queens/Long Island homage but to a kid from Jersey I don't give a fuck.

Springsteen & Sinatra both son Billy Joel and I still wouldn't bother to use either to jump off my debut rap album.

Bronson was far better off just spitting over what Fraud did with that Journey chop on "Heel Toe" two years ago.

I might have to start a class to teach some of these white rappers that inevitably get roped into tapping back into classic rock, how to do so with some degree of class & taste.

If you don't really love that genre beyond surface level songs and imagery, then leave it alone.

Because all these corny attempts done by Eminem, Asher Roth and unbelievably now Bronson (who I thought was actually much cooler than this) just reek of being 'management suggestions' while the artist themself doesn't really know enough about rock as a genre to be able to use it for good.

That will probably be a condition that only gets worse now that rock & roll is effectively irrelevant as a current genre in the mainstream.

But anyway, that's a story for another day & post.

The bottom line is an effort to be multifaceted rather than catering to this dude's meat-and-potatoes strengths as an MC and a personality......burnt this record like toast.

All the best shit on it I heard ahead of time and at least two if not a few of his mixtapes (none of which are certified classics or anything) are better than this album ended up being.

There's prolly five tracks on this worth keeping, only maybe two or three you'd call top-shelf material amongst his own best.

And to reiterate for Bronsolino, who I agree with Hood isn't really the issue here (other than of course him not having the vision to be able to steer his own album of course), go see Harry Fraud again ASAP.

Wasn't really feeling his beats on this, but by far and away bronson's best tape was blue chips with Party Supplies.

But that played to his strengths, rough as fuck youtube loop rips and raw raps. No focus on precision, just outlandish rhyming over interesting beats that banged.

It had undeniable chemistry and a sloppy charm (loved the one take raps where he fucks up).

This is almost too clean and considered to me. I think he's better uptempo too.

And while he had some missteps on post-Blue Chips material his best actual 'songs' come from other places, namely over Fraud stuff (Heel Toe, Marvelous, Strictly 4 My Jeeps, Rockers) and to a lesser degree Alchemist or an odd track here or there (Baby Blue on this album or Ray Lewis with Meyhem Lauren on whatever mixtape that came off).

I have no doubt I could for my own tastes easily put together a full album/mix listening experience that trumps any project he's actually completed pretty easily.

But we can at least agree that Party Supplies too many contributions to this album are mostly garbage.

Bronson was going for transcendent homages, which come off as trite or outright failures. those tracks would be fun mixtape experiments, but on a major release they don't fit.

Bronson is not going to "break through" or anything (unless it's as a TV personality), so he should've stuck to his fan base and formula.

>Bronson was going for transcendent homages, which come off as
>trite or outright failures. those tracks would be fun mixtape
>experiments, but on a major release they don't fit.
>
>Bronson is not going to "break through" or anything (unless
>it's as a TV personality), so he should've stuck to his fan
>base and formula.

because his production is so sample based, and would cost them money

I actually fall somewhere between what you and O_E wrote and why this failed as his major label debut.

Rare Chandeliers
Blue Chips
^^^ his essential joints, both are GREAT imo

SAAAB Stories
^^^dope

Blue Chips II
Mr. Wonderful
^^^ toss up for either or, but good

Well Done
^^^ good as well but don't revisit

never listened Dr. Lector all the way through

>because his production is so sample based, and would cost
>them money
>
and I assume they're still cool since Fraud popped up in my twitter timeline today telling folks to go cop Bronson's album.

I love that album

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Can anyone confirm because in the video it looks like he's faking.

doubt it. not because he's a rapper, but I just assumed it was supposed to be comedy...

for the purposes of a music video a few decades ago.

While tossing in a Lets Dance video reference for color on a yes/no question?

Would it be better if I used the Robert Palmer girls instead?

Do u think I actually care that Bronson, a rap artist, doesn't really play the guitar?

I'd much rather he ape Slash in a comedic video than be recording/performing amateur axe attempts like Wayne did.

Unless you're doing so "artfully" or indirectly. Not sure why you are doing that or why you're now bringing up Robert Palmer. I'm outnumbered here, though.

Edit: i just saw your reasoning/explanation. It was for color. Ok.

>While tossing in a Lets Dance video reference for color on a
>yes/no question?
>
>Would it be better if I used the Robert Palmer girls instead?
>
>Do u think I actually care that Bronson, a rap artist, doesn't
>really play the guitar?
>
>I'd much rather he ape Slash in a comedic video than be
>recording/performing amateur axe attempts like Wayne did.
>

super underwhelmed by the rest of it.
the production is weak imo.

Got me way too hype. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYfEpSgbfNE

His raps on this are insane and hilarious. Getting his dick sucked at his own funeral. Talking about a parrot on the shoulder one minute, then another minute letting ppl know the parrott is doing the rapping.

The album lacked what makes Action so appealing - I suppose Blue Chips is the work where he feels most free to rhyme like that?

I feel like I'm not long for this world. What's going on people?

>I feel like I'm not long for this world. What's going on
>people?

It's pretty sad.

and just don't care because i'm that into these types of raps
and i fucks with his samples

but does that mean I cant enjoy Bronson?

Both are outlandish, but in very different ways. Action talking about rocking loose pants and bribing Ewing to miss the lay up is different than Ghost spitting darts about 14kt slum computer wizards.

Cant we...enjoy both?

was City Boy Blues.

this album is whatever. ranges from good to mind boggingly bad

the third and fourth songs have to be the best thing on here