http://www.npr.org/2014/11/30/367593329/first-listen-prhyme-prhyme

It's a perfect length, Royce sounds good on every track and the guests verses all fit.

apart from a couple of questionable hooks, it's ill. premo sounds revitalised, features are great and royce does royce.

Jay Electron tho. Damn.

although it sounds lik he recorded it in the shower

...slick...

The feel of this EP is really incredible, AND Killer Mike on a Primo beat? WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

.

That must've been on his bucket list. He murdered it.

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

.

And even that opinion may rise a little with repeated listens.

Royce just sounds really comfortable and open on all these songs, shows how much he's matured lyrically over the last several years. Premier sounds revitalized too; I think using the Adrian Younge samples didn't only challenge him in a good way, but it also gives the beats a more cinematic feel to them.

But honestly, the most gratifying part of this album to me is seeing all these guest appearances. Not because their verses are the ones that stand out, but because after seeing Royce have so few collaborations on his solo projects, it's dope to see him hold his own along so many rappers I'm rocking with. If I were to make an ideal list of rappers for Royce to rap with, this album already has most of who I would list.

like someone mentioned tho, the quality on Jay Elec's verse? He's spitting fire, but damn where did he record this shit? Little distracting... only beef with whole album is that

1 listen and I'll already proclaim it's my fave hiphop album of the year

Common and Mac were not needed here. Royce bodied this shit and
anybody still sleeping on Mike (Killer) will get their wake up call here.

Not to say these cats aren't incredible, but I didn't know how the Younge beats and Royce's verses and Primo's style would mesh. Very rarely does everything line up this well. There's no filler at all here, and the album just goes non-stop.

Just wow...

Common sounded VERY good on "Wishin"

that Jay Elec verse does sound like it was recorded in a bathroom and I still want an album all over again

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

Love it.

very dope project.

This is very hip-hoppity without sounding dated

Royce still one of the best doing it though

But thought the short length was great

Royce was going OFF on those verses

the joint with Schoolboy Q and Killer Mike was dope too

He's always been incredible
and Adrian Younge is becoming a hiphop treasure.
He's basically becoming a new library of samples for producers
looking for sources.

If I had one hesitation about this album it was Primo honestly.

And he came through.


One of the more enjoyable hiphop releases for me this year.

I've listened to this shit like 15 times in the past 2 days...

As dope as each song is, the guest spots, primo coming thru big time... Royce really better get his due for this, he is rapping his ass... his second verse on the jay elec track? courtesy? the dwele song? these are epic lyrical performances

Almost like the Perverted Monks skit. Dope track that you get just a hit of. I could play that instrumental all day

This project as a whole should dead the 'primo's beats all sound the same' line of thinking that still floats around. Neither he or Royce were effing around on this project. Nas, the bar is set for you homie...

...truth...wanted more...

Short though.

updated his style a bit...damn!!

for keeping this thread in front of my face. I very likely may have slept on this otherwise.

But the album will be copped tonight, for sure

this album has to be had on vinyl


@rob_starrk

I see they got two tracks up there but not the whole album...

@rob_starrk

they ever release vinyl. Was just looking for easy listening in my car in the meantime.

werd.

I've searched every which way and can't find the whole album.

werd.

"No results found for 'prhyme album'"

smarturl.it/PRhymeSpotify

(Saw Royce tweet the link)

Sometimes Spotify really pisses me off.

...go on "browse" and check the new releases in order to find new albums that had dropped. I didn't have such difficulty finding that Prhyme album.


Since 1976

I still haven't mastered the Spotify search. Problem I run into more often than not is the censored version of albums being the default search result rather than the real albums. It weirds me out.

wish they had categories like they do for radio and then be able to browse by artist/year/title/etc...

The original sample for U Looze? Premier still has the ear

Knew I recognized that organ at the beginning.

Everything about this album is great, length, lyrics, beats.


I have to say, without staning dude, J Electo-rod's cameo is truly a standout. It's annoying how good this dude is.


werd.

project of the year....For Primo. We knew Royce would bring it. But Primo was going through his '80s Rolling Stones period.....

This joint is kinda shocking.

Dope shit....

i wonder if the younger crowd has any interest in this.

https://soundcloud.com/rosenbergradio/primo-and-royce-the-5-9-on-juan-epstein

Skip to 33 mins for the actual interview.

i didn't want the "premier answers questions about songs rosenberg plays" segment to end

Admittedly, doing an interview with Premier is going to be hard to focus with all the material he's done, but they were there to promote PRhyme, not do Primo vs. Pete Rock bits. Only 2 things I really gout out of that interview were the My Mind Spray bit from Adrian (which was dope) and Harry Allen is doing a book, which is going to be dope

Didn't actually receive the album until Tuesday, but now I can't stop playing it. Better than I could have ever expected, and I'm a fan of both of their output's these days.

Royce was EATIN'.

...!!!

I needed to hear my dude zone out for an entire project with a worthy emcee

And I don't think he and Primo ever made a bad song together.

At all! Dude handled that shit and made me wish Com wasn't on the one track.

Albeit a totally different rhythm and flow from Royce. But that's a good verse.

Just because Royce fucking rips it for the entire track, making Common's verse in the middle almost a distraction. Still a dope track tho...

Common's flow is so vastly different and slower-paced than Royce's so I understand wanting it to be a Royce solo. Comm's verse probly would've been better served on another track, we can agree there. But it was definitely a dope verse nonetheless.

It was going to be Royce, Common and Black Thought. Black Thought wrote his verse, but only recorded a rough version before being out of commission while dealing with the death of Roots' manager Rich Nichols. I heard the rough version of that verse and it was pretty dope, definitely would've added another flow/texture to the song and makes it a little more even between them. Royce/Primo said BT may end up on a remix of it later.

(Here's an interview that references it: http://rollingout.com/music/royce-da-59-dj-premier-preview-prhyme-album/)

Too bad the full version couldn't make the album.

Long time fucking coming. Both of their best work in years, and that's saying something cause I think Royce has been on a tear since 2008, and Primo has had a lot of high highs.

I love every song but on like my 20th listen now and "You Should Know" is a song I wasn't appreciating as much as I feel like I should've during my early listens. This beat is fire. And Dwele is a welcome addition to any song.

You Should Know is definitely a grower.

Loved that one from the jump

Royce goes in on that shit. I mean, he goes in on everything, but that song especially sticks out.

It's been a while since I just listened to an album over and over like this. Might be my favorite album of 2014.

On the video series they did with Complex, they mentioned that there may be physical release with bonus tracks on it. I'd rather hold off until that comes out, but I haven't been able to find any other info on it.

I think 3 more tracks he said... they went 9-9 on this, so adding a few more excites me


@rob_starrk

So happy this came out the way it did. Salute!

Fuck is wrong with y'all!?!?!?

Not enough NIGGERISHNESS?

GODDAMN you motherfuckers are going to be the DEATH
of black people

THis is BEAUTIFUL music

I was wondering how this post kept dying. I have legit not listened to any other music since this came out. Just this album on repeat for 2 weeks now.

Lessonheads are fucking weirdos.


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Am I the only one who has thought "Why the FUCK is Black Thought not doing something like this?"

Or at least thought he would have been a perfect guest feature on here?

out, but they wanted to use the verse for a remix or a bonus track on the deluxe

"Among the standout tracks is “Wishing,” a three-part epic that features Common and, according to Primo and Royce, would’ve also included Black Thought. The Roots rhymer was unable to take part in the recording, despite having sent in a rough demo of his verse, due to the death of The Roots’ manager, Rich Nichols, earlier this year. Both Primo and Royce expressed their understanding of Thought’s bereavement while also indicating that he may wind up on a remix of the powerful track somewhere down the road."

I'll continue to wait for that deluxe version then. Thought would have been ill on that track with Common though.

Yes he should do a project like this.

I'm kinda not kidding.


>Am I the only one who has thought "Why the FUCK is Black
>Thought not doing something like this?"
>
>Or at least thought he would have been a perfect guest feature
>on here?

and ignored a quality album made by veteran artists instead. Maybe you just don't really like rap that much.

You heard Nikki's album, and not this one.

And you still haven't heard Cormega, but have heard
every A$AP Rocky song this year, had them on repeat

If I act like a felon, can I be your friend?

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I listen to everything you ignore, and
ignore everything you like.

Let me know when you've discovered your next gang sign
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I guess that's easier than actually doing the work of trying to find new shit.

Your parents taught you to dickride well.

However, you're again welcome for introducing you to one of your fav albums of the year. Don't be so mad.

Let's keep it going

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a few people have actually kept this thread on page 1 every chance we've gotten

hopefully you grabbing the megaphone will help...

This is a true classic, I'll still be bumping this album in 20 years


@rob_starrk

guess im too late

Jay Elec showed the fuck up

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I've listened to this album about 100 times now and every time I need to stop what I'm doing when that verse comes on.

>I've listened to this album about 100 times now and every
>time I need to stop what I'm doing when that verse comes on.

And its kinda unfair to focus on that, though, since
Royce basically kills the entire album

Definitely my pick for best lyrical performance this year. And the funny thing about that Jay Electronica verse is that it's far from the best verse on the album-that-s how insane Royce's behavior was on this thing.

What I love about Royce is what I used to love about Eminem. Not only is the technical ability there in spades but he's got such a twisted, sharp sense of humor and I find myself laughing through half of the shit he says. But it's all focused humor, not just shock-value punchlines. He is so fucking fun to listen to.

>Definitely my pick for best lyrical performance this year.
>And the funny thing about that Jay Electronica verse is that
>it's far from the best verse on the album-that-s how insane
>Royce's behavior was on this thing.

Co-sign all of this. I dig Royce but his performance on this album was on another level.

And his verse on the Mac Miller/Ab Soul collab song made them both sound lazy.


"I asked would she rather deal with adultery/or would she rather deal with my cold feet/that's a wild question"

"Get live rounds from guns that are gigangtic/'cause you wouldn't bow down like the front of the Titanic?/You're gonna die, damn it"

Sheesh.

The recording is distracting for me. Its like THE only part of the album that sonically sucks and it jars me every time.

Kinda makes me think it's intentional, and unless it's just to promote the mystery of what Jay E is doing with his life, i dont understand why it was left like that.

>The recording is distracting for me. Its like THE only part
>of the album that sonically sucks and it jars me every time.
>
>Kinda makes me think it's intentional, and unless it's just to
>promote the mystery of what Jay E is doing with his life, i
>dont understand why it was left like that.

It sounds fine.

Anything more than that is nitpicking. Sorry.

does it fuck up the song, no, but it def has a different tone/quality to it. still a monster verse

you can agree with people. it's okay

Love is love, though


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk-yRhp4KQE



mark 14:00 they tell how Jay E. ended up on the track....

and also help explains why the audio on his verse sounds like he spitted it in a submarine.

But the Royce freestyle toward the end....WHOA!!!!!







>does it fuck up the song, no, but it def has a different
>tone/quality to it. still a monster verse
>
>you can agree with people. it's okay

put me down for this too that jay elec verse sounds like he recorded it in that bathroom ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymSOfE9Nqjc

Goddamn he killed that shit.

Comm kinda went in on this too.

You can tell nobody wanted to get blown off the spot by Royce on this, particularly on a Premier track.

This is a great project, when I can stop listening to 'Black Messiah' at disturbingly habitual levels, I'm glad to have this to slide back into again.

But this is really some of the best I've heard from either of them, solo or collectively, in some time.

Pete Rock or someone other than Premo.

These beats are blah and totally forgettable.

Royce is a rhyme fucking monster and if it were not for his rhymes I wouldn't even give this jawn a second listen.

With that said these beats are not hitting at all.

Premier been letting the MC speak that on at least two projects since Guru's passing.

that's one of the saddest endings in hip-hop.

Can you specify exactly what you're referring to ?

Also - definitely one of the saddest endings in hip-hop. Probably THE saddest. And what's almost as sad is that the fucking Grammys straight up ignored his death.

"Motherfuckers can't rhyme no more about rhyme no more
Cause I'm so raw
Will I win? ain't an if, it's a when
Kind of like asking "what time is karma gon find Solar"

>"Motherfuckers can't rhyme no more about rhyme no more

Motherfuckers can't rhyme no more 'bout -Ryan- no more

(Ryan being Royce, obv)

Could be wrong though.

He alluded to that and the Kick In The Door line in the CJ episode

But yeah, dope jab at Solar. Something will catch up to him if it hasn't already

Lawd, Royce completely murders that shit. Can't get enough of it.

....sumn sumn sumn sumn...it wouldn't matter, it's still squares on the RADIO!!!

Dope album

chopping his music up and him not being able to tell where he got the stamps from.
The part in the podcast where they talk about building the music for Primo to chop up exclusively for the next PRhyme project is both fascinating and exciting.

>chopping his music up and him not being able to tell where he
>got the stamps from.

Primo is the man.

>The part in the podcast where they talk about building the
>music for Primo to chop up exclusively for the next PRhyme
>project is both fascinating and exciting.

Oh man oh man oh man oh man.

>The part in the podcast where they talk about building the
>music for Primo to chop up exclusively for the next PRhyme
>project is both fascinating and exciting.

you should know has always been my shit but my new shit is wishin.' when the beat speeds up? high quality album.

I mean, that's hyperbole to a minor degree but I listen to this album near daily.

You Should Know is definitely the top of the list. Whole album is fire but this album rose to the top of my favorite tracks quickly and stayed there. It's got everything.

>you should know has always been my shit but my new shit is
>wishin.' when the beat speeds up? high quality album.

because it isn't just the beat, Royce tears it a new one with some killer lines.

an absolute clinic of MC-ing

I'm glad they plan on making another one.

so yea, this song is fucking insanely good...

http://pitchfork.com/news/62258-prhyme-royce-da-59-dj-premier-team-with-doom-and-phonte-for-highs-and-lows/

With this album officially at 13 tracks now it is a legit certified classic imo, especially since highs and lows is amazing, mode is already very good, can't imagine wishin II with thought not being amazing, so if Golden Era doesnt suck, which would be shocking if it did, this is 13 pretty perfect tracks, no skips, amazings beats and lyricism, and will probably end up in my top 10 hip hop albums E V E R since I haven't even gotten bored of it in a full year yet

deluxe tracklisting:

same as original plus:

Golden Era ft. Joey Bada$$
Wishin II ft. Black Thought (!!!!!!!!!)
Highs & Lows ft. Doom and Phonte (rappin')
Mode II ft. Logic

>so yea, this song is fucking insanely good...
>
>http://pitchfork.com/news/62258-prhyme-royce-da-59-dj-premier-team-with-doom-and-phonte-for-highs-and-lows/
>
>With this album officially at 13 tracks now it is a legit
>certified classic imo, especially since highs and lows is
>amazing, mode is already very good, can't imagine wishin II
>with thought not being amazing, so if Golden Era doesnt suck,
>which would be shocking if it did, this is 13 pretty perfect
>tracks, no skips, amazings beats and lyricism, and will
>probably end up in my top 10 hip hop albums E V E R since I
>haven't even gotten bored of it in a full year yet
>
>deluxe tracklisting:
>
>same as original plus:
>
>Golden Era ft. Joey Bada$$
>Wishin II ft. Black Thought (!!!!!!!!!)
>Highs & Lows ft. Doom and Phonte (rappin')
>Mode II ft. Logic

Looks like it's digital only smh. Hopefully physical edition is coming soon

>Looks like it's digital only smh. Hopefully physical edition
>is coming soon



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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

I'd prefer a full LP, but we'll see.
I could see holding back for Record Store Day or some shit like that.....

I fell for that once when they put out Donuts that way, but it's a terrible way to actually listen to an album.

"The album’s doing really good," he said. "We’re shooting a video for every song on it and Royce and I are hitting the road in February. We’re also getting ready to release the deluxe version with three to five new cuts on it. I can’t name all of the artists on it, but we’ve got MF DOOM on one. We’re putting that out on 45-inch box set and digital."

http://hiphopdx.com/news/id.31988/title.dj-premier-announces-mf-doof-feature-on-upcoming-prhyme-deluxe-version

Obviously we're almost a year later, so who's to say at this point......

I've been waiting until the deluxe version comes out to buy so I hope that's not the case but I didn't see any indication there wouldn't be a physical release.

Can't remember if this was posted here, but didn't see it in this thread and even if it was it's just a great interview so I'm posting it anyway.

But seems safe to say the Phonte collabo was born out of this interview scheduling mix-up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSb4vH38wO8&feature=player_detailpage#t=565

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g-Z51rP0_c

Maaaaaan this has turned from a five star EP to a five star album. Classic. I'm hoping for a vinyl release.

Thinking Prhyme 2 was already released, I got on Tidal and I see this deluxe version of the first album. Jesus these tracks is flames.

http://2dopeboyz.com/2015/12/10/prhyme-wishin-2-black-thought/

I'll be coping the deluxe to give it a better listen. I think I'm one of the few that wasn't blown away by this album.

Kinda like that Doom and Phonte track. With Royce, Doom, and Phonte over a Premo beat, I'd expect to be blown away, but was more like "ok, this is cool."

Both the beats and rhymes didn't really impress me on this album, at least not to the level I was hoping. Not saying it was wack, I guess I was just looking for that feeling "Boom" gave me. But I'm looking forward to revisiting it and giving it a more fair listen.

and all of the new songs are good.

Never disappoints ever.

Didn't love Royce's new flow on this one tho.....also, is it just the engineering or does he sound like he has a cold or something?

that's just strange, 1 of the great lyrical performances over an entire album ever imo by royce

Royce kills the whole album, and I also think the beats are great.

>that's just strange, 1 of the great lyrical performances over
>an entire album ever imo by royce

You can't really do much more than Royce did on this album lyrically. I'd be interested to know a recent lyrical performance this dude *has* been impressed by, if this didn't do it.

And I love the beats too but to each their own there I suppose. Still kinda strange but not as strange as not being impressed by the lyrical performance here. That's nearly impossible to criticize.

Royce has a really clean flow and some great punchlines + wordplay but he's not interesting enough of a rapper to carry a full album which is why I was happy this had a bunch of guests on it. He's obviously technically sound and always has been but my interest in him fades generally after a song or two.

I actually thought the most underrated part of this album was his sense of humor, i.e. shit like "these rappers kicking knowledge that they got from Toure'", shit talking that comes out of nowhere ("Courtesy" is probably my favorite song because the second verse is hilarious)

All the new tracks are good. I wonder if it's possible to hack Thought's verse into the original version of Wishin with Common. I don't like Royces verse on Wishin 2 as much and Preems long ass introduction is kinda laborious after you've already heard it once.

I get it and respect it but when it comes on in the headphones u dont wanna listen thru it everytime, save it for the end

I still love them but they're at the bottom of my list. Intro and Microphone Preem.

I can't really find anything saying either way?

The Joey Bada$$ song is crazy.

if you haven't already, it's worth checking out.

Just the other day I realized this, from "You Should Know":

"I came out of my momma's womb, with a box cutter
Lyrical spitting image, that mirrors the birth of Slim ..."

In that line he's referencing that his "lyrical birth" mirrors the "birth" of Eminem in that they both started their careers together essentially. But the part I didn't pick up on until just now, almost SIX YEARS LATER, is that the first part of that line is also a reference to this lyric from Eminem's "Any Man":

"I slit her stomach open with a scalpel when she was six months
And said 'I'm ready now, bitch! Ain't you feelin' these kicks, cunt?'"

Royce is a fucking monster, man.

This album still goes super, super hard by the way. My favorite of the 2010s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wbY2QPtMFY

Just discovered this in another thread about Royce/Preem while searching for this thread. Damn.

They were both on their A game all the way through.

I want to love this album but it just falls short for those reasons.

The beats are dope...Royce goes...but I don’t want to hear that many guests on an album let alone a 9 song album.

The length in a vacuum doesn't bother me at all, I actually appreciate trimming the fat. I always have.

But I can understand wanting to hear more of just Preem and Royce *considering* the length. That I get.

I didn't mind the features, cuz I thought everyone came with it. But as a Royce stan I can't argue with wanting more Royce.


>RE: I could never get over the length and abundance of features
>I want to love this album but it just falls short for those
>reasons.
>
>The beats are dope...Royce goes...but I don’t want to hear
>that many guests on an album let alone a 9 song album.

It’s not even like I have complaints with the album.

I like all the features as well.

But I feel like they had the opportunity to put an absolute classic in the hip-hop canon but they fell short and the failing of that in my eyes just can’t not out-weigh the product for whatever reason. Lol

It’s like they had all the skill to win the championship but decided to just go play pick-up at The Y.

>It’s not even like I have complaints with the album.
>
>I like all the features as well.
>
>But I feel like they had the opportunity to put an absolute
>classic in the hip-hop canon but they fell short and the
>failing of that in my eyes just can’t not out-weigh the
>product for whatever reason. Lol
>
>It’s like they had all the skill to win the championship but
>decided to just go play pick-up at The Y.

I think their approach to this album was what made it work so well (being that I think this came together pretty organically, in that they didn't know where the project/idea would go at first), but also contributed to why it may not be a "classic" in your eyes and the eyes of others.

To me it's a definite classic, but can appreciate your "gripes" (for lack of a better term) and why others would share them.

And that’s a post that needs to be made, and if I think of it, I’ll make it soon...both because I want to see what other people got and I want to make myself recall the best of the most recently completed decade. Ask me to reel off the best albums from any year in the 90s, and I’ve got a solid list in 10 seconds....but I gotta think hard about the most recently passed years. And I’m gonna make myself do it, for the brain exercise if nothing else.

But one thing I do know..... Prhyme will easily be on that list. “Dope beats, dope rhymes, what more do y’all want?”(Tay really coined one of the best and most accessible lines in rap history there)

not a hard call if you ask me, I get it