I don't really consider myself a Mobb fan - I thought HOE was pretty good, but even in my youth I felt like the production on Murda Muzik was kinda weak. Haven't been following them closely ever since.

The sample flips on The Infamous were just too good. He hasn't come anywhere close to that level to this day.

Maybe it was Q-Tip's inspiration and making the best use of whatever records he had.

Maybe Tip really did have more production involvement than we've been told. A big part of me hopes that's not the case.

Still….one of the best albums in the history of rap. Just weird that Havoc regressed like that.