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Topic subjectsongs that don't have a kick drum on the down beat.
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2897512, songs that don't have a kick drum on the down beat.
Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Wed Aug-20-14 11:50 AM
i noticed that in beyonce's "cherry" song,
timbiland didn't put a kick drum on the down beat.

then i noticed how unusual that is.

what other songs do that?
2897520, Ive been meaning to make this EXACT post.......
Posted by sersey, Wed Aug-20-14 12:30 PM
But its such a fleeting thought that I never get around to it. This Black Milk/Young RJ song:

http://youtu.be/yiK8l2nEdVE
Welcome to Detroit

As far as percussion goes.. the song has one snare per bar. Thats it! NO kick drum. but it BANGS!! Like how is that possible?

It perplexes me that I characterize this as a Boom Bap hip hop song when the shit technically only got a "Bap"

-Honorable mention for the Price-Is-Right-esque horns at the start of the song (who thinks to do that!?!).

-Honorable mention for the synth & trumpet build-up to close out the song

Its a gem of a song that was approached with a type of unconventional simplicity that doesnt sound good on paper, but works masterfully when you hear it.
2897521, RE: Ive been meaning to make this EXACT post.......
Posted by sersey, Wed Aug-20-14 12:39 PM
Listened to the Bey song.. And yeah we talkin bout two different things here. Im referring to the complete absence of a kick drum on what is still a dope/dancable song. A harder feat in my opinion....
2897622, fam...
Posted by howardlloyd, Thu Aug-21-14 04:47 AM
no kick...but a lot of percussion
2897836, The song in the link has a snare on 2 and 4.
Posted by Teknontheou, Fri Aug-22-14 06:22 AM
It has no bass drum, though.
2897593, RE: songs that don't have a kick drum on the down beat.
Posted by dustin, Wed Aug-20-14 09:49 PM
can you link the song?

I thought it might be this one http://vimeo.com/82063807 but I can't hear the absence of a kick on the down beat. Maybe I'm not listening right
2897602, that's a remix... click this one.
Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Wed Aug-20-14 11:16 PM
http://vimeo.com/m/92659654


the timbiland change up comes a bit after the 3:00 min mark.
2897604, Common - Love Is...
Posted by Anonymous, Wed Aug-20-14 11:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDNBfj7bldQ
2897674, Common - Soul Power
Posted by DickGrayson, Thu Aug-21-14 10:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT2cHCI0szM
2897698, that has a kick...
Posted by sectachrome86, Thu Aug-21-14 12:57 PM
2897835, technically no kick on the downbeat
Posted by CB_010, Fri Aug-22-14 06:16 AM
but on the upbeat *shrug*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEzREJbln-o

though im not a fan of JT blatantly biting the King
this track grew on me..
Beat is dope

edit: forgot the link
2897837, Shook Ones (Pt. 2)
Posted by Teknontheou, Fri Aug-22-14 06:40 AM
The bass drum comes in 1/16th after the 1, I think.

Edit - I'm wrong. The bass drum is on the "uh" of 4 and on the 1.