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2893317, Flying Lotus - You're Dead! Posted by imcvspl, Sat Oct-11-14 02:53 AM
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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
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2893396, i am really curious where he takes it with this one Posted by agentzero, Tue Jul-22-14 04:34 PM
a bit of a make or break album for me
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2893404, Back last year he said that his new stuff sounds more... Posted by phemom, Tue Jul-22-14 05:49 PM
beat-tape ish....to some that may seem digressive, but it's what I want to hear from him right now. An upgraded "1983" would be lovely imo.
I can't wait for this.
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2893409, ^what he said Posted by infin8, Tue Jul-22-14 06:52 PM
re: ugraded 1983
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2893429, here for w/e it is Posted by Small Pro, Tue Jul-22-14 09:44 PM
cuz u know it'll be dope
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2893434, ^What this fellow said^ Posted by Ishwip, Tue Jul-22-14 11:07 PM
>cuz u know it'll be dope
__ I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno
Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)
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2901995, RE: Back last year he said that his new stuff sounds more... Posted by ydrobeatz, Thu Sep-18-14 05:48 PM
sounds good to me
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2893406, Can't wait Posted by las raises, Tue Jul-22-14 06:18 PM
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2893431, ah i was hoping he'd give us another Captain tape first. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Jul-22-14 10:04 PM
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2893435, He said this will be a jarring listen 1st time round. Posted by High Society, Tue Jul-22-14 11:17 PM
Got a feeling it's gonna be more CosmoG than UTQC. REALLY HOPE he stays away from the trap drums that he's been messing with. For those wanting Murphy, he said Murph will be on this album but not in a way you'd expect.
Don't want any rap features on here unless utilized in a way like he does with Thom. But if he's got Kendrick on here, hope it's a 5 minute journey.
Don't know if the Herbie Hancock album morphed into this album or if he's doing a Brainfeeder jazz trio type thing w/ Herbie, Thundercat and himself for a later release.
Hope we get a taste of the album soon. Been dying to hear some new FlyLo.
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2893493, I hope he's done with that UTQC sound Posted by astralblak, Wed Jul-23-14 02:28 PM
and the shit he was doing with Thundercat. fucn modern Chick Corea light as a feather sleep on a dow comforter and pillow looking at the pacific ocean sunset ass music
sure some of it is good, but...
anyways, new Lotus always gets me hype.
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2893539, that good hate Posted by agentzero, Wed Jul-23-14 04:40 PM
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2893548, Thundercat's gonna be ALL over it, thats a given. Posted by High Society, Wed Jul-23-14 05:01 PM
What if it's a harder edge and busy like Cosmogramma w/ Thundercat all over it? Would you like that more?
Is there a specific sound you'd like to see him strive for?
Were you the guy on here who thought Cosmogramma was the greatest thing since sliced bread? No shots... Just asking. I know somebody on here thought it was the future of electronic music (SO DID I) then blasted him when he put out pattern and grid world EP.
I love UTQC and CosmoG. I hope this album is a little bit rougher around the edges and coloring outside the lines more. UTQC has a real clean sound. I appreciate it because it was different for him. We were used to a wall of sound calibrated just right that it wasn't overbearing and just straight up NOT WORKING.
I hope You're Dead flirts with that again. Push it to the limit to where it almost feels like its all about to fall apart, but then it just sits there in this wonderful groove, running on all cylinders.
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2893578, RE: Thundercat's gonna be ALL over it, thats a given. Posted by astralblak, Wed Jul-23-14 07:21 PM
>What if it's a harder edge and busy like Cosmogramma >w/ Thundercat all over it? Would you like that more?
who knows I'd have to hear it first
>Is there a specific sound you'd like to see him strive for? > no. I let artist do them, and I voice my opinion on its quality on here or other online places
>Were you the guy on here who thought Cosmogramma >was the greatest thing since sliced bread? No shots... >Just asking. I know somebody on here thought it was the >future of electronic music (SO DID I) then blasted him when he >put >out pattern and grid world EP.
nope. I think that was All_Stah. does he even post here anymore. I love Cosmogramma. it's a classic to me, just like Los Angeles was. I never heard the Pattern=Grid EP. UTQC was too meandering and "pretty" IMO
>I love UTQC and CosmoG. I hope this album is a little bit >rougher around the edges and coloring outside the lines more. >UTQC has a real clean sound.
true
I appreciate it because it was >different for him. We were used to a wall of sound calibrated >just right that it wasn't overbearing and just straight up NOT >WORKING.
okay. I wouldn't call Lotus' efforts wall of sound. maybe collage of sounds. El-P is more wall of sound IMO
>I hope You're Dead flirts with that again. >Push it to the limit to where it almost feels like >its all about to fall apart, but then it just sits there >in this wonderful groove, running on all cylinders. > I wouldn't mind that either. but as some one said above, I wouldn't mind more "beat-tapey" shit either
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2893583, do you think LA is beat tapey? Posted by High Society, Wed Jul-23-14 08:05 PM
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2893599, No. I would say 1983 is more in that lane, but Los Angeles doesn't happen Posted by astralblak, Wed Jul-23-14 10:50 PM
W/o Lotus and his peers Dibiase, Samiyam, Black Monk, Ras G among others taking Dilla, Lib, Dadelous, and Perfuse lessons and making them their own thing. Sample and loops chopped to pieces and burried under frenetic or white noise, a faster bpm (to some extant) and harder (or better mixed) drums
In other words Los Angeles was the next logical step for beat tape shit IMO
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2896538, UTQC and Cosmo are equally good Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Wed Aug-13-14 01:23 PM
i tried to choose but, i just can't. dude can do no wrong either way in my book.
>and the shit he was doing with Thundercat. fucn modern Chick >Corea light as a feather sleep on a dow comforter and pillow >looking at the pacific ocean sunset ass music > >sure some of it is good, but... > >anyways, new Lotus always gets me hype.
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2896490, Trailer Posted by imcvspl, Wed Aug-13-14 10:54 AM
http://vimeo.com/103317489
█▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃ Big PEMFin H & z's "I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles
"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
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2896494, Sounds promising! Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Wed Aug-13-14 11:02 AM
>http://vimeo.com/103317489 > >█▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃ >Big PEMFin H & z's >"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 >thing, a musician." © Miles > >"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
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2896496, Agreed Posted by imcvspl, Wed Aug-13-14 11:07 AM
I appreciate his quote on it being about the afterlife and that could make sense. But I'm not really feeling the artwork if that's the case though, and it seems like a slight rip off the Laurel Halo art stylistically (I know that's a broad stroke with the japanese style but meh).
█▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃ Big PEMFin H & z's "I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles
"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
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2896539, sounds really good Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Wed Aug-13-14 01:29 PM
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"There is much temptation to use what has worked before, even when it may exceed its effective scope."
"Roll me further bitch"
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2896554, dear god this sounds incredible...and the presentation!! whew Posted by Hellyeah, Wed Aug-13-14 03:13 PM
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2896583, Sounds like the album I've been wanting from him... Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Wed Aug-13-14 06:29 PM
where he shows what he's capable of and makes it dope at the same time. Sounds like lots of musicality and jazz influence shining through here.
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2896586, i'll download. Posted by febreeze, Wed Aug-13-14 06:33 PM
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2896600, wonder how they got shintaro kago on board? Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Aug-13-14 08:05 PM
pretty cool
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2896697, sounds amazing Posted by Kosa12, Thu Aug-14-14 11:46 AM
can't wait
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2896725, that art is so fucn nice. music sounds great as well Posted by astralblak, Thu Aug-14-14 02:55 PM
I'm officially hype.
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2896729, sounds like a whole lot of jazz-ish noodlin' over here Posted by bearfield, Thu Aug-14-14 03:16 PM
but i have faith in steven lotus to form something cohesive and focused. here's to hoping this album is good. that art is killer and the guests seem to be at the very least interesting and most likely able to make meaningful contributions to the project
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2896771, Man oh man golly gee! Posted by Ishwip, Thu Aug-14-14 09:47 PM
__ I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno
Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)
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2897594, now THIS is how you promote some good shit... Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Aug-20-14 10:03 PM
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2896591, definitely not beat tape stuff. Posted by High Society, Wed Aug-13-14 07:04 PM
This is the Brainfeeder collective jazz album he was talking about. I'm sure he's still got some other stuff with Herbie and it may see the light of day, but a lot of what was going on with that had to have morphed into a FlyLo solo record.
The 10 second clips and the quotes about it's just the beginning sound like him saying making these little beats that ya'll like was cool but I'm about to take my label and my music and go elsewhere with it. Time for me to reinvent the FlyLo sound. And in my opinion, maybe even the label if artists he fucks with say Oh shit, he just jumped to another level, I gotta catch up.
Officially HYPE.
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2896702, The Kendrick track is ridiculous and the Snoop one is not Posted by sweeneykovar, Thu Aug-14-14 12:16 PM
what you'd expect.
the best shit on there tho, that i've heard, is the shit with just Lotus and the track with Nikki Randa.
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2896765, sounds like he's been playing Murder Was the Case live Posted by High Society, Thu Aug-14-14 08:13 PM
any connection besides the obvious, Snoop on his new album?
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2898759, kendricks flow sounds a bit too 'i can feel the changes' Posted by GumDrops, Wed Aug-27-14 01:44 PM
i dont really wanna hear rappers on a fly lo album
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2897457, RE: Flying Lotus - You're Dead! Posted by A Love Supreme, Wed Aug-20-14 01:02 AM
nowadays i'm more exited to hear some new captain murphy than flylo. *shrug*
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2897460, FLylo might have beats on Kendrick's next one (swipe) Posted by mrshow, Wed Aug-20-14 02:39 AM
"Kendrick Lamar is one of the guests on Flying Lotus' new album You're Dead!. In a forthcoming interview with Pitchfork, Flying Lotus revealed that Kendrick has also recorded verses over several tracks he had previously set aside for his own Captain Murphy album. "...We've been working on stuff together," he said. "I went on tour and he recorded to a bunch of my songs. I don't know if he's gonna use them or not, but he recorded a bunch of stuff, which is why there's no Captain Murphy album out yet. He took all my beats!" When asked if he was just waiting to see which songs Kendrick uses and which ones he doesn't use, he responded, "Yeah! At this point, I don't even know! But he took, like, 12, 13 of my tracks, man. I think he recorded all of them, too. I just don't know if they're ever gonna see the light of day." A second Kendrick feature was also supposed to make it on You're Dead!, but had to be removed for "political reasons," Flying Lotus said. Update: He clarified on Twitter that "it's all love":
End Swipe
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2898891, It's funny man, coz before GKMC Posted by blinded by the lights, Thu Aug-28-14 03:51 AM
FlyLo was CONSTANTLY tweeting at Kendrick saying how much he wanted to work with him, which Kendrick must've never got wind of. Glad to see it finally happening.
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2897610, So where does a FlyLo novice need ta start?....... Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Thu Aug-21-14 12:00 AM
I'm just barely gettin' up on Dude.
What would be my, "Get familiar" kit?....and where can I *get it?
Holla.............
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2897613, i'm no expert Posted by Delajoo, Thu Aug-21-14 01:20 AM
just a huge fan. but i'd listen to the albums in chronological order
Los Angeles Cosmogramma Until the Quiet Comes
and then check out his EP's, probably the 1983 and Reset are good ones to check out.
And then of course the Captain Murphy to hear how dude raps.
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2897615, Good lookin' out, Troop. Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Thu Aug-21-14 01:55 AM
Ima holla at deez.
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2902043, i wanna say Cosmograma but ill say Los Angeles Posted by JAESCOTT777, Fri Sep-19-14 11:23 AM
Cosmograma is his best album so ill recommend saving the best for last
so ill say start at Los Angeles
then until the quiet comes
and then Cosmograma
1983 was dope too but it was his 1st album and you can tell where he was going he just wasn't quite to that place yet
dude is incredible
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2903326, I think you should start with 1983 & Reset first. Posted by phemom, Mon Sep-29-14 05:14 PM
Then LA,Cosmogramma.....then Until The Quiet Comes.
That way you see the progression musically.
Pattern+Grid World all 3 LA EP's SHHH EP...are for fans only affairs.
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2898688, RE: Never Catch Me [ft. Kendrick Lamar] Posted by bentagain, Wed Aug-27-14 06:59 AM
consider this a warning
Kendrick and FlyLo is a MF'n problem!
off the heels of FlyLo's set at the FYF
he played Never Catch Me and the Snoop jawn*
I was blown AWAY!
it was everything
the opening and ending of the song were all things FlyLo
with the beat reaching a steady vibe for Kendrick's verses in the middle
if what has been reported is true
that Kendrick took all of FlyLo's beats for his next album
WATCH THE F OUT!
he's coming for that Yeezus spot!
*he lost me toward the end of his set with the Captain Murphy thang
he's a competent MC
but I feel like that is something he should have been doing from the gate
if he was going to do it all
I prefer my FlyLo without him rapping
but the tracklist only has 2 appearances for Captain Murphy
so maybe it will lend a good change of pace
but 20 min. of him on the mic was too much
his stage show was incredible though
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2898903, Damn, you said all those positive things and then dissed him... Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Aug-28-14 06:40 AM
>he's coming for that Yeezus spot! >
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2898914, well, allow me to clarify Posted by bentagain, Thu Aug-28-14 07:56 AM
regardless of opinions regarding 'Ye
I actually respect his body of work, and his willingness to TRY different things...
...and that was what I was alluding to with Kendrick working with FlyLo
coming off of the success with GKMC
the easy route would be to get the hottest producers in the game
make an easily digestable follow up
etc...
but from what I heard...
...alot of people AREN'T going to like it
it was an incredible piece of music.
but, as you can imagine with a FlyLo project, it will be too much for some of the fans from his previous works
he has an audience now
and it sounds like he's more inclined to challenge his audience
and himself
instead of just cashing in on his recent success and taking the easy route
that's what I meant.
now, if KL's follow up is full of FlyLo tracks, as has been mentioned
AND it sells
yeah, I think he is literally going to take 'Ye's spot
as the biggest artist in hip-hop
if the follow up sounds like I think it will
AND moves units
the Watch The Throne era will be officially over.
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2899004, damn Posted by Hellyeah, Thu Aug-28-14 03:33 PM
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2902019, I hear you and understand what you're saying... Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Sep-19-14 06:36 AM
but I just think Yeezus was a lazy album that was released under the guise of "trying something new". I actually appreciate when artists do something new and creative... love it, actually. I just do not think that's what Yeezus was.
Of course we will just have to agree to disagree there, but with your belief that it was brilliant, I see what you're saying.
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2899772, Folks gettin' thrown off a radio rip...HAHA!!! Tried to told ya'll Posted by bentagain, Wed Sep-03-14 06:30 AM
https://soundcloud.com/laleaks/la-leakers-exclusive-flying-lotus-ft-kendrick-lamar-never-catch-me-la-leakers-tags
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2901921, another track (link) Posted by bearfield, Thu Sep-18-14 11:45 AM
https://soundcloud.com/flyinglotus/coronus-the-terminator
fuuuuuuck
i've been attempting to maintain a healthy cynicism about this album as some sort of defense against all the hype it's receiving but tracks like this are wearing me down. i'm uncomfortably close to being excited about this album
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2901945, October 7th can't come soon enough Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Thu Sep-18-14 12:43 PM
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2901972, really good. really really good Posted by astralblak, Thu Sep-18-14 02:39 PM
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2901993, Damn, that sounded like the return of early Outkast interludes. Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Sep-18-14 04:57 PM
Nice.
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2902005, I'm not a super audiophile. Posted by High Society, Thu Sep-18-14 09:24 PM
I don't know a top 1% mix from that of just a GREAT mix, but everything in this song, is just really clear, crisp, full.
Can't wait to hear the whole thing in it's entirety.
Sounds effing amazing with my headphones.
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2902075, ish has given me chills Posted by boyd, Fri Sep-19-14 07:11 PM
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2902097, pre-ordered. basically the only cd i bought this year along with black Posted by Hellyeah, Sat Sep-20-14 04:49 AM
milk's new one
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2902130, yup. add RTJ as well Posted by astralblak, Sat Sep-20-14 01:49 PM
.
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2902822, same here pre ordered all day Posted by JAESCOTT777, Thu Sep-25-14 12:17 PM
did it on iTunes and got never catch me and coronas can't wait
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2903100, it's out. I'm not home right, can't give DM links. Posted by High Society, Sat Sep-27-14 04:22 PM
But check google, last hour. It's legit.
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2903113, im listening now, sounds like some Bitches Brew type stuff... Posted by ry 213, Sat Sep-27-14 07:28 PM
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2903137, Oh boy, i need to cop a sack of weed and new headphones first Posted by mashpg89, Sun Sep-28-14 01:13 AM
also gotta order the vinyl, Flying Lotus is an instant purchase.
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2903275, rofl@ the gif in ur avi Posted by 3d1gg4, Mon Sep-29-14 10:07 AM
lowlzers where does it come from?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++last man standing takes a seat+++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.last.fm/user/chillhood
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2903579, from a promo for the 2012 or 2013 NBA playoffs Posted by mashpg89, Wed Oct-01-14 10:24 AM
I've thought of changing it, but nah.
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2903114, very unique and sick piece of work... Posted by LAbeathustla, Sat Sep-27-14 07:32 PM
one of the best projects ive heard in a while....bout to cop tickets.
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2903130, yeah it's real heavy. Posted by High Society, Sat Sep-27-14 10:41 PM
Def something have to listen to at once, only 2 or 3 songs you can single out and play out of order.
Def a 40 minute journey, highs and lows, twists and turns. Intense. I can see why he said it started out as album of just hard jazz breaks.
Was worried about the rap features but they don't stick out like a sore thumb and if the Captain Murphy character is utilized like it was here, I'd be excited for the direction that album would be going in.
FlyLo is maybe my fav artist so I'm probably biased, but this is a FANTASTIC album. The instrumental album will be a fun listen for those that don't like the vocals.
Need some more time with it to realize all the detail.
Can anyone point me in the direction of an artist, group, band making similar music today?
What albums in the past would you guys compare this to? I'd say:
Soft Machine - Thirds Herbie Hancock - Sextant
to name a few come to mind.
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2903323, I would love to know as well Posted by Delajoo, Mon Sep-29-14 04:59 PM
I think the leap hes made on this album is the biggest of his career. He's gone so far into Prog sounds with the guitar stuff on here, and Thundercat is just destroying the bass game as far as I'm concerned.
If he's got a contemporary, I need to know about them. Just the idea that Snoop Dogg is on album, that also has a track like "Moment of Hesitation" is fantastic.
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2903122, Anyone have an inbox?!? Posted by 1-UP, Sat Sep-27-14 09:46 PM
please?
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2903136, inbox fam Posted by LAbeathustla, Sun Sep-28-14 01:00 AM
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2903139, JAZZ IS DEAD FAM......... Posted by BAMMAS-R-US, Sun Sep-28-14 03:00 AM
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2903222, this is way too short Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Sun Sep-28-14 06:39 PM
i see what he did there.
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2903223, RE: this is way too short Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sun Sep-28-14 07:00 PM
only 5 to 6 minutes shorter than his previous albums
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2903265, how long was it supposed to be mr. okayplayer? Posted by LAbeathustla, Mon Sep-29-14 08:54 AM
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2903270, ms Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Mon Sep-29-14 09:53 AM
38 mins is short to me. maybe i don't have the same version as everyone else? seems like he gave us just enough to go out and buy his upcoming concert tickets. i got minez. i don't blame him...lol.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ instagram: http://instagram.com/0kayndc
"There is much temptation to use what has worked before, even when it may exceed its effective scope."
"Roll me further bitch"
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2903277, RE: ms Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Mon Sep-29-14 10:19 AM
38 mins is just fine to me. I think we have become accustomed to the bloated as CD era making 70+ min albums.
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2903286, especially an album like this Posted by 1-UP, Mon Sep-29-14 11:25 AM
Short is probably a strength... any over 45 is running the risk of people losing attention, I mean its pretty dense - but incredible.
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2903331, i think <= ~45 mins is pretty standard for jazz fusion albums... Posted by bearfield, Mon Sep-29-14 06:29 PM
...or at least some late 60's/early 70's ones like "inner mounting flame", "birds of fire", "weather report", "in a silent way", "head hunters" (maybe?), "return to forever", etc.
(i've not heard "you're dead!" in its entirety but everything i've read about it seems to indicate that it's a modern jazz fusion album)
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2903507, this album is as long as herbie's 'sextant' Posted by rhymesandammo, Tue Sep-30-14 07:59 PM
and that ish was only 4 songs
imagine today's listeners getting a 4 song album
lotus gave u guys too much
he should have given u 4 songs
pull a burial
anyways thom yorke is a fuckboy
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2903509, wait sextant was three songs not four songs Posted by rhymesandammo, Tue Sep-30-14 08:02 PM
herbert hancock truly gave no fucks \\m//
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2903328, Bitches Brew for milennials Posted by 201cue, Mon Sep-29-14 06:15 PM
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2903490, i'm only on a first listen... tis good Posted by imcvspl, Tue Sep-30-14 05:19 PM
but
and you knew there'd be a but
well actually there are a few
the biggest for me has been my biggest complaint about lo throughout - inconsistent mixing. i'm thinking tde laid their hand on the kendrick track because it's the clearest out of the bunch. but it's painful for me to hear all these amazing ideas reduced by shitty mixes.
biggest one for me is bruner's drums. whether recorded or sampled they all sound like shit recorded in his bedroom with a pillow in the kick drum. they could sound so much better and then fit so much better in the mix.
kendricks verse is cool but i coulda done without the snoop and murphy vocals.
if i hear thundercat do that same run again i'm going to poke somebodies eyes out. don't get me wrong it's dope, but he over uses it.
that said he should practically get co credits on this cause he put in work.
but they both suffer (probably just to me) from the same issue around their signatures, and because of the way the album is they stand out so much. lo's timing changes on the hats is just so predictable these days. and because they aren't going anywhere different it just stands out.
these things in essence standout as solos which would be interesting except all of the other texture elements are really holding it together and almost outshine the flourishes.
there's some duds in the middle.
i don't think i'll ever hear edgy music from either one of them, which is probably my biggest problem as a listener not being willing to let that go as the edge is what drew me to them both.
all of that said (and i'll probably say more later) it's a great body of compositions and well deserving of whatever praise it gets.
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βββββββ Big PEMFin H & z's "I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." οΏ½ Miles
"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
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2903505, it just feels like I've heard a lot of it before Posted by osu_no_1, Tue Sep-30-14 07:43 PM
The drums
The thundercat runs
Man I really didn't like the start of the album, maybe it will grow on me
There was a pretty good stretch of songs in the middle
I'll give it a few more chances but it's not great on first impression. In contrast, that sbtrkt hit me a lot harder on the first few listens
And the mix quality is just a fucking bummer, like wtf I can't even turn it up in the car without crackling like shit
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2903522, man, the mix is a big problem for me as well. Posted by High Society, Tue Sep-30-14 09:13 PM
I was wondering if it maybe was just the leak and it'll sound better on vinyl and the mp3 codes that come with the vinyl??
On first listen, I was just so excited to hear a new album by my fav artist. But after repeated listens, I'm feeling like I've got some of the same problems you've got: the Thundercat runs, the FlyLo drum patterns are like you said, predictable...
That was ehat originally attracted me to him so much, his drum work was just so different from anything I'd heard. Now? A lot sounds the same. And speaking of sounding the same... I feel like some of the songs sound very similar.
As far as the vocals, the 4LP comes with instrumentals. Hoping to hear what's under those vocals more clearly with the instrumental album version.
Hoping the leak isn't the audio quality we'll get on the physical release and mp3 codes but not sure - people said it was 320.
And dunno if Lo sampled whatever Bruner laid down on the drums but you're right - sound muddy, there's no pop to them.
Hey, took me over a year to come around on UTQC... We'll see with this one. I love the direction he went.
BUT! I did expect to hear more FlyLo signature work mixed in with the Thundercat, live drummers, guitar work, Kamasi on sax, etc though.
DADDY KEV mixed this album, he's mixed all the FlyLo records, a little FY for those that maybe wanted to know and didn't.
Would love to hear your thoughts again after you've sat with it some more.
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2903647, after the second listen i liked it even less Posted by dunk, Wed Oct-01-14 05:37 PM
>the biggest for me has been my biggest complaint about lo >throughout - inconsistent mixing. i'm thinking tde laid their >hand on the kendrick track because it's the clearest out of >the bunch. but it's painful for me to hear all these amazing >ideas reduced by shitty mixes.
Yeah, I don't know what the fuck is going on with the mixes on this album. I remember FlyLo tweeted saying this album was bounced to tape after being mixed on an SSL. I don't if he mixed solo or along with DaddyKev or whoever but the album often sounds harsh in high end, extremely muddy, and overly compressed and limited.
edit: listened to the itunes previews and the leak is definitely fucked up. itunes ones sounds way better.
>kendricks verse is cool but i coulda done without the snoop >and murphy vocals.
the snoop track was possibly the worst song he's ever done imo. It's all over the place.
>i don't think i'll ever hear edgy music from either one of >them, which is probably my biggest problem as a listener not >being willing to let that go as the edge is what drew me to >them both.
I really want him to make an album by himself. fuck leaning on all his talented jazz musician friends and singers. I'd like him to lock himself away alone (no Captain Murphy) and make something that pushes against and breaks through his limitations and habits. But, l like you said, I doubt it will happen.
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2903951, HAHAHA!!!@all ya'll bishes, complaining about sound quality on a leak Posted by bentagain, Sat Oct-04-14 10:18 AM
FOH!
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2904749, HAHAHA!! Captain know it all don't know it all!! Posted by imcvspl, Thu Oct-09-14 07:55 AM
ββββ
βββββββ Big PEMFin H & z's "I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." οΏ½ Miles
"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
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2903544, I Hope The Album Is A Well Balance Of His Best Forms Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Wed Oct-01-14 03:38 AM
I like Flying Lotus' early stuff but not so much the trippy slow rock shit but the jazzy stuff I do like so, basically from the snippet trailer of "You're Dead" it sounds like a promising album but not much of the weird sensory overload type tracks (that I love most) though.
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2903577, Probably my favorite album so far this year. Posted by Steve O Tron v2, Wed Oct-01-14 10:11 AM
Love the direction he went with this record. I don't necessarily have a favorite FlyLo album, although I'd probably saw I like Cosmogramma and his last one more than Los Angeles. This one is already up there with those two, and might even be my favorite of his.
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2903578, I'd like to hear a Dre3k and Flylo collabo Posted by las raises, Wed Oct-01-14 10:23 AM
For some reason I can hear dre over the Coronus track with a slow flow
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2903605, RE: I'd like to hear a Dre3k and Flylo collabo Posted by 1-UP, Wed Oct-01-14 12:29 PM
That track is VERY Outkast sounding... I thought so too. Kind of reminds me of 'Liberation.' It has that dark and mellow but deep funk sound to it.
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2903606, Exactly Posted by las raises, Wed Oct-01-14 12:40 PM
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2903650, RE: I'd like to hear a Dre3k and Flylo collabo Posted by spidey, Wed Oct-01-14 06:58 PM
...Ish would be interesting...
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2903660, Never Catch Me VIDEO Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-01-14 08:37 PM
http://www.egotripland.com/flying-lotus-kendrick-lamar-never-catch-me-video/
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2903664, i dig this Posted by imcvspl, Wed Oct-01-14 08:54 PM
not his best video but a nice portrayal nonetheless.
ββββ
βββββββ Big PEMFin H & z's "I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." οΏ½ Miles
"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
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2903665, honestly. i loved it Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-01-14 09:24 PM
but agree it's not his best
and for the most part i agree with your critique of the album, but I think the leak may not be the proper mix
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2903667, Fader Interview Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-01-14 10:30 PM
http://www.thefader.com/2014/10/01/flying-lotus-youre-dead-interview-cover-story
he def seems to be feeling isolated and he's honest about his drug use
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2903694, * Posted by Options, Thu Oct-02-14 08:30 AM
this is a very dope read.
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2903998, He almost died in June?! Posted by 1-UP, Sat Oct-04-14 04:26 PM
That shit would have been so so terrible. I'm obviously happy that didn't go down like that. Honestly, he may have not been close to death, but just felt like it. But if he was, I hope he stops effing with the drugs that can kill you like that.
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2904005, Probably almost fell into a coma Posted by PCProductions, Sat Oct-04-14 07:31 PM
But yeah I'm sure it felt like death. Either way, that's some hardcore stuff he was talking about. And yeah, I hope he's careful with all that trippy shit he does, we can't lose a guy like him.
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2904066, well, that explains the grotesque album artwork. Posted by Fructose Soda, Sun Oct-05-14 09:01 AM
I'm queasy, so the artwork is gross to me. A bit disturbing. But the music is fuckin brilliant.
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2904617, RE: Fader Interview Posted by MaxPtah, Wed Oct-08-14 02:34 PM
according to this track by track breakdown it didn't happen:
"16. βThe Boys Who Died In Their Sleepβ βThe Boys Who Died..β was gonna be on the Captain Murphy album. I tried to my best Dr. Rockso impression. I never had a drug overdose by the way re: that FADER story. Vicodin is the new heroin. Austinβ¦"
http://www.okayplayer.com/news/flying-lotus-track-by-track-breakdown-youre-dead.html
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2903917, Stream Posted by High Society, Fri Oct-03-14 09:16 PM
for another 18 hours or so... http://flying-lotus.com/youre-dead/#
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2903944, Coronus is my Song of The Year! Posted by bentagain, Sat Oct-04-14 10:02 AM
It's like seeing God!
a couple of thoughts
I can't help but be reminded of and then you shoot your cousin
People killed the Roots, myself included
but the format of you're dead is the same, IMO
you take an ep's worth of songs...on both they're about 4-5 actual songs
and the artist guides you through the album parts in between
It's so dense, with so many sounds, I'm having a hard time digesting the whole album in 1 sitting
it feels like a double album, IMO
the first part ends after Coronus, when my head usually explodes
and then the second part is the remaining songs
GREAT F'N ALBUM!!!
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2903946, The Protest ... Posted by QBoogie, Sat Oct-04-14 10:07 AM
...smh, what a way to end the album. Shit gives me goosebumps everytime I play it.
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2904403, Wow. His best - and one of the year's best... Posted by soul4thought, Tue Oct-07-14 12:31 PM
I am floored because "You're Dead" is fantastic from start to finish.
And so firmly rooted in the traditions of jazz through that I was completely shocked. I get George Duke's vibes with this album... and he does succeeds 100%. To go from the murky, jumbled, nebulous and, IMO, headache-inducing sound of "UTQN" (and, frankly, too much of his other work for me to be a full-on fan of his) to "Fkn Dead" and "Turkey Dog Coma" is a fantastic and welcome change. I've always preferred his work for other people to what he's does for himself. Not this time.
There was NO point where I felt a song was out of place; in fact, from the sequencing to the theme in sound, it felt like a musical journey. A complete work that's very focused but surprisingly low-key. I easily got lost in the album - in the best way possible - and that rarely happens nowadays. Can't even name a favorite song because each piece of the album fits together so well. I would say the Whole > Sum Of The Parts.
He doesn't deserve to but... I'm thinking he may lose some fans with this album. The ones who care more about bass than rhythm may very well hate "You're Dead." But I didn't like that Flying Lotus a whole lot, anyway. I like THIS.
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2904430, this is amazing Posted by Kosa12, Tue Oct-07-14 02:16 PM
it might be his best album, but it is surely so far, for me, album of the year
holy fucking shit
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2904493, RE: Flying Lotus - You're Dead! Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Oct-07-14 07:48 PM
Just got my copy in the mail. Cover is bent as hell. Kinda disappointed. Gotta send it back for an exchange.
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2904519, Guys: I'm giving this an honest effort. I really am. Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Oct-08-14 03:35 AM
Unlike y'all, I paid for it.
This dude is managing to annoy the shit out of me and I barely hear him talk.
Thank god he can't actually rap. He'd make Kid Cudi sound like M.O.P.
WAY too much emo. And I like passionate music.
But this is irritating me a tad.
I'll let this stew for a minute, give it another listen, see how I feel.
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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "
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2904706, RE: Guys: I'm giving this an honest effort. I really am. Posted by Admbmb, Wed Oct-08-14 08:04 PM
Keep listening. There's really a lot in there. Its a masterpiece. Just focus on on the elements and how the songs evolve. Definitely gets better on subsequent listens. I bought a copy as well.
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2947863, if you never heard him before i wouldnt recommend this as the 1st Posted by JAESCOTT777, Tue Oct-20-15 08:17 AM
go peep cosmogramma first its his best album to me then Los Angeles then until the quiet comes then this one
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2904720, not my favorite effort of his on initial listen. Posted by jswerve386, Wed Oct-08-14 10:21 PM
im trying tho.
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2904731, 4LP BOXSET ARRIVED. Posted by High Society, Thu Oct-09-14 12:48 AM
Incredible artwork. If I was at the record store and had no idea who FlyLo was, I'd buy You're Dead based off the album cover alone. I do that once in every 4 trips to the record store - buy one album based off cover alone.
I like the instrumental album more. Not that I find anything wrong with the Kendrick feature, or the Snoop one, or even Murphy singing on The Boys Who Died in their Sleep....
Just like the non vocal instrumentation of the album, only problem with that is, tracks that have little vocal features from Niki Randa, Deradoorian, Laura Darlington - are nice little touches on the songs on the vocal version of You're Dead.
So the mp3 codes allow me to mix and match different versions of the songs and make my own edition of You're Dead - subtle changes to my final version of You're Dead.
Still think the mix is a little suspect. But it's a real fun listen. It's in contention for album of the year for me right now.
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2904852, is it better than the leak? Posted by osu_no_1, Thu Oct-09-14 06:45 PM
Because I really couldn't listen to it at high volume without cracking. Tracks that could be great like coronus got ruined. Let me know if it's better and I'll buy, or maybe i should try to find a newer leak
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2905199, RE: is it better than the leak? Posted by dred99, Sun Oct-12-14 01:07 PM
leak is a bust.. specifically addressed by FlyLo before the album officially came out.
as for your other dilemma, i like what he said here,
"If u like the album pls support. In some way. If u love it but don't wanna buy it, come to my show or something. It all helps so much."
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2905245, already bought it. yeah its better Posted by osu_no_1, Sun Oct-12-14 06:06 PM
Haven't put it back in the car yet but on my home speakers it sounds better. Now I feel like I can really get into it
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2905314, RE: already bought it. yeah its better Posted by dred99, Mon Oct-13-14 12:18 PM
word. enjoy! good headphones will be another trip also.
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2904740, RE: Flying Lotus - You're Dead! Posted by melanon, Thu Oct-09-14 05:57 AM
Not at all digging this off first run. I think I'm starting to not like Kendrick Lamar's rapping too. He sounds terrible on here. he sounded terrible on that wack, slam poet song off 'These Days'. We all know how wack 'I' is.
maybe Jazz really is dead, dead cuz i can't get jiggy with this shit at all off first run.
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2947081, I was incredibly dope and needed Posted by justin_scott, Mon Oct-12-15 01:24 PM
FOH, and kendrick sounds great on this
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2904874, crazy Posted by isisbabyboy3, Fri Oct-10-14 02:47 AM
textured, dense, mysterious, captivating, numbing, manipulative, dissonant, hypnotic, jazzy
this is gorgeous to me.
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2905094, feels like something's missing Posted by F_ECM, Sat Oct-11-14 02:21 AM
I love the music presented but it doesn't sound finished to me - like it's a soundtrack without its counter theme. Seeing the video for "Never Catch Me" helped get across what he was going for and songs like the "The Protest" reassirt that in a way at the end but the journey. To me this is supposed to be a soundtrack to a sort of brilliant purgatory/afterlife but there are no sonic ties throughout the album to ground me as a listener for the full duration. So many disjointed ideas that somehow seem to linger in one mood without any real melody. I say this as someone who appreciates free jazz and would love to see it implemented more with an electronic mindset, but this album lacks melodic grounding. Even the greats of free jazz knew to have some thematic grounding AND emotional fluidity.
I appreciate his vision but he did not flesh it out completely IMO. Too much motion and not enough fluctuation of emotion aurally.
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2905098, Anybody feel like the Instrumental version is the more "complete" album? Posted by High Society, Sat Oct-11-14 09:24 AM
I've read some places it sounds a bit disjointed. The instrumental LP fixes that imo.
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2905104, Great album but prefer his previous LP's Posted by Ishwip, Sat Oct-11-14 11:05 AM
I don't consider this a misstep in any way and have played it back to back to back on many occasions (due in part to its length).
Just wish some of the grooves and ideas were allowed to live a little longer. __ I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno
Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)
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2905246, the protest - his best with Laura Darlington? Posted by osu_no_1, Sun Oct-12-14 06:11 PM
Seems like his best work is with her
Pretty consistently on every album, the best track or at least one of the best is with Laura
Unexpected delight - 1983 Infinitum - Los Angeles Table tennis - cosmogramma Phantasm - until the quiet comes The protest - you're dead!
What's your favorite?
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2905727, SERIOUSLY, why was this not anchored Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-15-14 08:06 PM
we get you boom-bap Lesson mods aint the biggest fans, but this shit has 100 replies (which is super rare in the Lesson) and it's Flying Lotus.
i mean it's pretty much pointless now, but... yeah, whateva
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2905769, RE: SERIOUSLY, why was this not anchored Posted by melanon, Thu Oct-16-14 03:45 AM
>we get you boom-bap Lesson mods aint the biggest fans, but >this shit has 100 replies (which is super rare in the Lesson) >and it's Flying Lotus. > >i mean it's pretty much pointless now, but... yeah, whateva
cuz the album is kinda hard to pretend to like. maybe even harder than Yeezus or the last Roots joint.
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2905813, it's nice you have that opinion Posted by astralblak, Thu Oct-16-14 11:39 AM
but most people in here seem like and love it
that also has never been a reason not to anchor a release from one of the most critically acclaimed artist of the period
and this is miles better than Yeezus, knock that nonsense off
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2954575, nobody pretended to like the Roots last album Posted by justin_scott, Sat Jan-16-16 03:32 PM
most people didn't like it. those that did, probably did.
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2905771, some good, a few great, a lot of completely skippable Posted by osu_no_1, Thu Oct-16-14 05:25 AM
The mix on the retail version is better but still mostly sounds terrible in the car
Unfortunately, overall I'd have to say this is his worst album
The highs are great but there are so few and they're hampered by the terrible mixing
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2905887, Captain Murphy on Dead Man's Tetris sounds like.. Posted by Original Juice, Thu Oct-16-14 05:33 PM
Ish as Palaceer Lazaro from Shabazz Palaces.
I'm thinking he should have just worked with Shabazz instead.
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2947557, W O K E Posted by High Society, Sat Oct-17-15 01:28 AM
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2905905, Played a killer show Posted by Stadium Status, Fri Oct-17-14 12:51 AM
I didn't love the album, but def appreciated it at the show
Thundercat came out and killed it to open with a keyboardist and drummer - was disappointed he didn't do Oh Shiet but a great act overall - showed the kids some motherfucking fusion so I was down
But Lotus tho -
Was initially disappointed that he was only playing a DJ set but he had great visuals and kept the energy playing for an hour plus - didn't go before Cosmogramma as I could tell but a lot of the album sounded better at the show (particularly the Murphy/Snoop song) and it sounded like he played an unreleased Kendrick track. Been a while since I enjoyed a concert this much and between his 4+ albums and Captain Murphy he certainly has quite a discography to play around with. happy to see him next go round
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2909119, RE: Played a killer show Posted by spidey, Wed Nov-12-14 01:43 PM
Saw this brother last night in Phx/Tempe...dude did his thing, great vibes, and impressive...
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2909603, I've been playing this NONSTOP since the show Posted by Stadium Status, Mon Nov-17-14 09:28 AM
It's my favorite album of his now from front-to-back. It's just so ...hypnotizing, really nothing else out there like it
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2909018, Wow, I've hardly played this. Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Tue Nov-11-14 12:15 PM
For some reason, I'm not interested in playing this.
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2934318, still feel this way about the album? Posted by High Society, Sat Jun-06-15 07:28 PM
Ever hear the instrumental version of the LP? I like the instrumental version more. Don't know where it sits in his discography for me in terms of favs. Need to listen again soon.
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2934320, Good bump, still haven't played it. I'll check it out. Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Sat Jun-06-15 09:32 PM
>Ever hear the instrumental version of the LP? >I like the instrumental version more. >Don't know where it sits in his discography for me >in terms of favs. >Need to listen again soon.
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2909436, at first i thought that 38 minutes were perfectly fine...but when the album Posted by Hellyeah, Sat Nov-15-14 04:13 PM
stops it leaves me thirtsy for more... to be perfect this record needs an extended cut
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2934328, man, 'Never Catch Me' still has my ear. Posted by Dr Claw, Sat Jun-06-15 10:48 PM
If anyone ever wondered what the hype for Kendrick was about, I'd point to that. the dude has come a LONG way.
and with FlyLo.... man.
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2947124, his third best album Posted by astralblak, Mon Oct-12-15 10:21 PM
1. Cosmo 2. LA 3. You're Dead 4. UTC 5. Reset EP 6. 1983 7. Pattern Grid World (I don't remember this one tho. need to revisit)
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2947230, I've got it Posted by High Society, Tue Oct-13-15 04:43 PM
UTQC YOU'RE DEAD CosmoG LA Pattern Grid Reset 1983
maybe I switch YOU'RE DEAD! and CosmoG... gotta wait a few more years for You're Dead to know for sure. I def love the instrumental version of You're Dead! better than the vocal version. It just sounds more natural imo, flows better.
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2947259, wow at having UTQC at 1 Posted by astralblak, Tue Oct-13-15 11:17 PM
i mean, naw
it is interesting we both have 1983 at the bottom
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2947560, I know UTQC at 1 is hard to fathom Posted by High Society, Sat Oct-17-15 02:02 AM
was def not considered his best work by critics when released. Nor is it the album that makes people say, "OH!! (insert album)" when talking FlyLo.
It probably sits what ya think? 4th? (CosmoG, You're Dead!/LA or LA/You're Dead!) if polled.
While I don't think the songs are correctly sequenced and I wished he would've done something different w/ Erykah, I just love the overall mood of the album. The sounds, the textures... The vocal appearances from regulars like Nikki and Laura. The vibe gets me every time whenever I put it on.
me yesterday//corded is probably my favorite FlyLo song as well.
1983 is like his Organix to me. Yes, both debut albums but some times don't even get mentioned as being the debut. I've read multiple articles on websites, maybe even in a magazine or two where they've said LA is his debut - not just on Warp, but in general. And I know plenty people that have never heard Organix - or think DYWM?! is The Roots' debut.
Plus 1983 is just eh. a lot of it sounds the same to me.
I kinda feel like FlyLo is the electronic version of electric Miles. Their discogs are similar but in reverse:
LA = On the Corner CosmoG = Bitches Brew UTQC = In a Silent Way
You're Dead I don't put in that analogy though. You're Dead is more Soft Machine, Weather Report, King Crimson imo.
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2947628, bruh, me and you on the same damn wave length Posted by astralblak, Sat Oct-17-15 03:09 PM
when it comes to understanding FlyLo's discog
i def understand how you explained why YOU love UTQC and all the other ideas on his work as well
respect
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2947697, salute. Posted by High Society, Sun Oct-18-15 12:30 PM
Listened to You're Dead again yesterday with the new release of the "remastered" album.
FlyLo and Daddy Kev heard the talk lol...
Man, that instrumental album is REALLY REALLY tuff bro.
A year later I like it a lot more. And I can def hear the difference in the mix.
You checked it out?
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2947699, nah I haven't. is the itunes or digital remaster available Posted by astralblak, Sun Oct-18-15 01:01 PM
or is it just on vinyl / CD
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2947702, RE: nah I haven't. is the itunes or digital remaster available Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sun Oct-18-15 01:15 PM
https://bleep.com/release/64711-flying-lotus-youre-dead-deluxe
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2947720, shit, I'm just gunna go buy the CD. i love the art Posted by astralblak, Sun Oct-18-15 04:04 PM
.
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2947721, RE: shit, I'm just gunna go buy the CD. i love the art Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sun Oct-18-15 05:29 PM
I think the remaster deluxe is only available digitally.
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2947744, I think it's just digital. Itunes has it. Posted by High Society, Sun Oct-18-15 09:05 PM
Album and instrumental.
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2954576, Picked up the vinyl in SF the other day Posted by justin_scott, Sat Jan-16-16 03:37 PM
god damn, this is great. every track is just excellent.
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