>by indicating the actual fads that leant themselves to their
>hits.
>
>>Dead Prez doesn't count because they had a chanting chorus?
>
>I mean shit i don't even think of dead prez as lyrical. No
>dis... they cool an all dat, but it was a killer bass line and
>a club like chant that made their hit hit, not their
>exceptional lyricism.

True they aren't the most lyrical MC's around I think they get thrown in because they aren't a typical mainstream group.
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>>Xzibit doesn't count because he had a Dre-co sign (never
>mind
>>the 200-300k fan base he had already built up prior to
>working
>>with Dre)?
>
>Did he even have a hit though? Why is he even a name that gets
>to Pimp My Ride? Lyrical prowess?

X was probably his biggest "hit" from that time and it was more of a Hip Hop banger type of song than a big crossover hit. I think him being that bridge from West Coast "backpack" MC's to "Gangsta" MC's is really what helped push him to the forefront and he was that dude that everyone on the West liked and got behind and wanted to see win. Plus he has personality.
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>>Those seem like big reaches to prove your point.
>
>I mean the alternative is saying that Dead Prez and Xzibit
>rose to the top on the fad that was lyricism. WHAT?
>
>>Redman had no biggest hit during that era but he still
>managed
>>to sell a decent amount of records.
>
>Not even discrediting any of that.
>
>>Some of the reasons that
>>you pointed out come across as just nitpicking to try and
>make
>>your point. Like with most artists in all genres it's never
>>just one thing that helps an artist to have some level of
>>success. It's usually a combination of things at the same
>time
>>so I don't see why you would
>
>Right which would make the most esoteric of them (from a mass
>media perspective) a most absurd reason to focus on.

We are in agreement here. I think I may have misunderstood what you were saying in your post because I just agreed with damn near everything you said!
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