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2848340, 2013 BET Hip-Hop Awards Cyphers (Videos) Posted by wrecknoble, Tue Oct-15-13 09:26 PM
http://itzsoweezee.com/2013-bet-hip-hop-awards-cyphers-video/
all of them are up, except for the Real Husbands of Hollywood cypher
Kendrick stole the entire show.
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2848347, King Kendrick Posted by Hitokiri, Tue Oct-15-13 09:45 PM
nm
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2848360, Ehhhh Posted by cchrono, Tue Oct-15-13 10:15 PM
Nothing special at all about that Kendrick verse.
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2848362, Nothing special at all about this post Posted by the_time_is_when_god...lounge, Tue Oct-15-13 10:21 PM
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2848374, RE: Nothing special at all about this post Posted by cchrono, Tue Oct-15-13 11:24 PM
Haha I love the Kendrick hype machine. Dude is nice but this was ok. I guess I'm just out of touch who knows
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2848372, LOL Posted by astralblak, Tue Oct-15-13 11:22 PM
Sure
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2848378, RE: LOL Posted by cchrono, Tue Oct-15-13 11:34 PM
You can tell nobody cares cause ain't nobody in this post. Average verse he is better than what he came with slaughterhouse had the best cypher.
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2848405, everybody in this post except you loved kendricks verse Posted by justin_scott, Wed Oct-16-13 05:26 AM
lol that
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2848431, Didn't say it wasn't good Posted by cchrono, Wed Oct-16-13 09:10 AM
Just said its nothing special it was average and expect better than average from him. Joe budden was best IMO out of everyone.
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2848588, guess you was wrong Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-16-13 03:57 PM
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2848371, few pleasant surprises, few disappointmentsm, usual suspects did it Posted by rjc27, Tue Oct-15-13 11:16 PM
SH killed it cause that's what they do... liked Ortiz the best
TDE was dope... Kendrick was Super Kendrick... the new dude was wack... after Kendrick to me it was Rock, Soul, then Q... Was real impressed with Rock and Soul had some real ill lines
out of the rest, ASAP Rocky was a pleasant surprises, dope verse
Also thought Rittz killed it, Bronsolino always comes correct, random dude from ATL, Starlight something was kinda dope
disappointed in Jon Conner, I'm a fan, didnt do anything for me...
can't remember anyone else standing out to me in any positive way
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2848526, Q was lowkey kinda shitty on this one I thought Posted by Bombastic, Wed Oct-16-13 01:39 PM
>SH killed it cause that's what they do... liked Ortiz the >best > >TDE was dope... Kendrick was Super Kendrick... the new dude >was wack... after Kendrick to me it was Rock, Soul, then Q... >Was real impressed with Rock and Soul had some real ill lines > >out of the rest, ASAP Rocky was a pleasant surprises, dope >verse > >Also thought Rittz killed it, Bronsolino always comes correct, >random dude from ATL, Starlight something was kinda dope > >disappointed in Jon Conner, I'm a fan, didnt do anything for >me... > >can't remember anyone else standing out to me in any positive >way
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2848562, Yup, he was... Posted by Remedial, Wed Oct-16-13 02:48 PM
Also, he forgot his lyrics at one point.
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2848564, RE: few pleasant surprises, few disappointmentsm, usual suspects did it Posted by Remedial, Wed Oct-16-13 02:50 PM
>TDE was dope... Kendrick was Super Kendrick... the new dude >was wack... after Kendrick to me it was Rock, Soul, then Q... >Was real impressed with Rock and Soul had some real ill lines
Rock had PRESENCE, but, if he had just stepped the lyrics up just a bit, we'd be mentioning his name in the pool of emcees that were possibly the best last night.
Ab Soul started off MAD weak but was killing it with that CL Smooth metaphor he did at the end. Wish he'd have done more of that.
Honestly, I couldn't really understand anything the Tennessee cat was saying and Q underimpressed like a mug.
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2848373, KENDRICK Posted by astralblak, Tue Oct-15-13 11:23 PM
The end
Do they have sumthin against Danny Brown
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2848379, the cyphers at best were mediocre... it was rappity rap to the umph Posted by kysersozey, Tue Oct-15-13 11:35 PM
power
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2848426, You expecting concepts and choruses? Posted by Ashley Ayers, Wed Oct-16-13 08:47 AM
Cyphers are about rappity rap. Wtf lol
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2848500, LOFL Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-16-13 12:24 PM
cats have been coming with some strange fucn criticisms lately
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2848510, ahahahahaha Posted by Kosa12, Wed Oct-16-13 12:49 PM
that really is a nonsense criticism though
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2848508, Hehehe Posted by Mau777, Wed Oct-16-13 12:46 PM
--- If you release what is within u, what u release will save you. If you do not release what is within u, what u do not release will destroy u.
www.pitchblackgold.bandcamp.com
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2848565, Which is why I don't understand why A$ap Mob tried... Posted by Remedial, Wed Oct-16-13 02:52 PM
>Cyphers are about rappity rap. Wtf lol
To add a chorus. It was comical at best.
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2848572, have you never been in a cypher where a crew enters and Posted by wrecknoble, Wed Oct-16-13 03:03 PM
does that type of thing?
In highschool there were some legit crews of guys that played ball together and rhymed together. Occasionally during random hallway cyphers some of them would kick a verse off the top then go into a chant/chorus they all knew and the next member would kick a verse.. Dominated the cypher that way and showed off in a fun way.
That's what I felt during the ASAP cypher, just a crew having fun with it. They came to show off, look cool, have fun. not eat everyone's food like Kendrick lol
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2848581, I've seen that approach... Posted by Remedial, Wed Oct-16-13 03:34 PM
>does that type of thing? > >In highschool there were some legit crews of guys that played >ball together and rhymed together. Occasionally during random >hallway cyphers some of them would kick a verse off the top >then go into a chant/chorus they all knew and the next member >would kick a verse.. Dominated the cypher that way and showed >off in a fun way. > >That's what I felt during the ASAP cypher, just a crew having >fun with it. They came to show off, look cool, have fun. not >eat everyone's food like Kendrick lol
But, you still have to kill it on your individual verses and that method is normally just employed so the next emcee in the crew has time to get ready.
Nothing wrong with having fun with it, but, most cyphers are about lyrical murder, which Kendrick, Joell, Crooked, Royce, Joey, and Rock seem to understand.
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2848591, word makes sense, plus ASAP have some dope radio freestyle Posted by wrecknoble, Wed Oct-16-13 04:05 PM
cyphers as a crew, so they could've been better (especially Ferg, I expected more from him)
Maybe they just got lazy writing their verses lol
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2848671, but that's all it was... mofos was lazy ass rappity rapping!! if this Posted by kysersozey, Wed Oct-16-13 10:08 PM
excites y'all, the state of hip hop is in trouble bro
half them muhfuckas were rapping like they just got off work. I don't know if they were trying to be extra cool--> like, it's just another verse umma spit, or they just didn't take it seriously. The only cat who seemed like he made an effort was Kendrick.
I'll say this, not ONE act made me think: yeah, umma buy their shit when it drops... Royce and nem were definitely disappointing to me, considering they were the vets
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2848521, You are aware of how the dynamics of a cypher work, right? Posted by mrhood75, Wed Oct-16-13 01:24 PM
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2848672, I always thought cyphers were more than rappity rap for the sake Posted by kysersozey, Wed Oct-16-13 10:09 PM
of it
maybe one or 2 cats seemed like they cared about being there
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2848382, Crooked I and Kendrick kilt it Posted by Calico, Tue Oct-15-13 11:41 PM
slautherhouse and TDE ran it it like I figured they would, and I call bullshit to anyone acting like it was all boring
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2848383, RE: Crooked I and Kendrick kilt it Posted by murph71, Tue Oct-15-13 11:45 PM
>slautherhouse and TDE ran it it like I figured they would, >and I call bullshit to anyone acting like it was all boring
This^^^^^
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2848394, too cool for school type bammas Posted by Mash_Comp, Wed Oct-16-13 12:27 AM
>and I call bullshit to anyone acting like it was all boring
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2848501, way too cool Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-16-13 12:25 PM
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2848566, YUP!!! Posted by Remedial, Wed Oct-16-13 02:53 PM
That's EXACTLY the problem that faced Q, Ab Soul, and Travis Scott. How you gon' be on there acting all cool and shit.
SPIT!
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2848502, Crooked I kilt that shit sumthin serious Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-16-13 12:25 PM
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2848406, "you probably learned to rap at ICDC college" LOL Posted by justin_scott, Wed Oct-16-13 05:52 AM
Crooked I, Ortiz, and Kendrick were my favorites.
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2848637, I agree Crooked, Ortiz & Kendrick were best Posted by Luke Cage, Wed Oct-16-13 07:00 PM
>Crooked I, Ortiz, and Kendrick were my favorites.
And Joell looks like he's been in the gym with Dre.
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2848424, Kendrick and Crooked I definitely had the best verses. The West won. Posted by self_ish, Wed Oct-16-13 08:33 AM
Overall I felt Slaughterhouse had the best cypher, followed by TDE. After that it's a toss up. If someone had the Real Husbands at the third spot I wouldn't be at all mad lol.
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2848433, Shit, that's my favourite one this year, lol Posted by topaz, Wed Oct-16-13 09:17 AM
>If someone had the Real Husbands at the third spot I wouldn't be at all mad lol.
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2848503, i liked the first one with Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-16-13 12:26 PM
that kid Wax, the french dude, Rhapsody and Ritz. Ritz kinda kilt his verse too
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2848425, I don't think we can overstate the importance of Kendrick anymore. Posted by Tiger Woods, Wed Oct-16-13 08:45 AM
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2848532, u can even hear the lift in the energy in the audience watchin the clip Posted by Bombastic, Wed Oct-16-13 01:44 PM
when he finally comes in on the TDE one, it's a palpable excitement akin to watching an engaging athlete at his peak.
Dude has got folks in the palm of his hand right now.
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2848642, Good analogy Posted by Luke Cage, Wed Oct-16-13 07:06 PM
it's a palpable >excitement akin to watching an engaging athlete at his peak.
It feels like someone looking over at Kobe or Durant and saying oh shit this dude's in a zone let's enjoy this cuz it's about to be special.
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2848440, Jay Rock is DMX reincarnated Posted by urbgriot, Wed Oct-16-13 09:44 AM
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2848504, ??? Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-16-13 12:28 PM
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2848583, yea, mixed w/ a jug of water maybe... Posted by DonWonJusuton, Wed Oct-16-13 03:37 PM
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2848441, Unedited TDE Cypher: http://www.bet.com/video/hiphopawards/2013/cyphers/t-d-e-kendrick-lamar-and-others-uncut.html Posted by Oak27, Wed Oct-16-13 09:50 AM
http://www.bet.com/video/hiphopawards/2013/cyphers/t-d-e-kendrick-lamar-and-others-uncut.html
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2848650, watching it a second time... Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-16-13 07:52 PM
yup that shit is still FLAMES
nice to see mr. choc on the ones and twos
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2848519, "Hold up, know what?/Premo, this beat sucks." © Travi$ Scott Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Wed Oct-16-13 01:21 PM
TRAVIS SCOTT ✔ @trvisXX FYI MY BET HIP HOP AWARDS CYPHER IS ASS. I ACTUALLY FREESTYLE. I WAS UNDERWHELM BY THE BEAT AND THE PRODUCTION VALUE. 4:24 PM - 15 Oct 2013 535 RETWEETS 138 FAVORITES
https://twitter.com/trvisXX/statuses/390211655486812160
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2848535, Primo is just window dressing at these things Posted by mrshow, Wed Oct-16-13 01:51 PM
He doesn't make the beat.
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2848577, LOL @ all the replies calling him out for it NOT being a freestyle Posted by Oak27, Wed Oct-16-13 03:23 PM
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2848587, that shit was fucn terrible Posted by astralblak, Wed Oct-16-13 03:54 PM
nigga looked autistic up there
didn't he kill his XXL one
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2848990, What a clown Posted by topaz, Thu Oct-17-13 08:36 PM
Pretty disrespectful to one of the legends too if it was Primo that picked the beat.
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2848580, First off, A$AP MOB are trash... Posted by Remedial, Wed Oct-16-13 03:32 PM
Rocky did a decent job, but, it wasn't good enough to save those other clowns. HOW THE HELL did A$AP Ferg win best new artist?! The game is all messed up. I don't know WHO THE HELL wrote the review on the front page of OKP, but, the MOB DID NOT do their thing AT ALL. It was laughable.
In the cypher with the new cats, I don't know WHAT the author of the front page review was thinking either by saying Jon Connor was underwhelming but at the same time praising Rapsody. Was he/she watching the same show as us? Rapsody was OK, but she barely did any lines and was not very discernible vocally. Connor had presence, delivery, clarity and punchlines. I guess someone must have wrote some checks and other folks didn't.
Wax was good for an underground emcee and Rittz was passable. Contrary to what others may say, I thought the Italian cat was pretty nice. His flow was good and the rhyme schemes were on point. Italian, as a language, seems to fit rapping better than Spanish, French, Japanese and the others I've heard.
Now, the REAL killer is how the reviewer went on to praise Tiffany Foxx. She said like maybe 6 lines. What am I supposed to REALLY get from that? Action was also underwhelming, but, I'm not surprised because his style is not befitting of a cypher, IMHO. Still love his work, though.
Now, on to the heavyweights. Slaughtahouse killed it. Period. Joell did a nice setup for Crooked, Royce once again showed off his lyrical dexterity (although the punchlines weren't that strong) and Joey did Joey, whom I was most unimpressed by. I mean, he was cool, but, I've heard him do so much better in the past, he should have really put in work on this one.
With TDE, after relistening, Q was saying some pretty nice lines, but, that whole too cool for school flow just isn't befitting of a cipher. Same with Ab. Rock did his thing and was the second best of the crew. The new cat has flows but needs content. And, as for Kendrick, as we all know, he killed it, coming with a vehemence usually reserved for diss records. I wish he would have finished his verse off stronger, but, that's a minor quibble.
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2848586, i just wish everybody would take it seriously Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Oct-16-13 03:51 PM
like damn for a good bit of these folks this is the biggest platform they'll get all year.
the one time where people are tuning in to see you rap your ass off.
rap your ass off!
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2848704, I'msayin'right Posted by Mau777, Thu Oct-17-13 12:15 AM
>like damn for a good bit of these folks this is the biggest >platform they'll get all year. > >the one time where people are tuning in to see you rap your >ass off. > >rap your ass off!
You are supposed to pull out your best verse for this. I was watching this shit like, "What is wrong with these cats?". They know Kendrick is in it. They know Slaughterhouse is in it. They know what beat they are gonna rock over. Why these dudes rappin' like that. I mean, when I'm more entertained by a cypher of non-rappers (real husbands) than I am by a cypher with cats with record deals, that's a big problem.
--- If you release what is within u, what u release will save you. If you do not release what is within u, what u do not release will destroy u.
www.pitchblackgold.bandcamp.com
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2848597, Kendrick! Posted by CaliFornicater, Wed Oct-16-13 04:25 PM
Kendrick,and Crooked I too me were the best.
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2848622, This too cool shit got to go.. Posted by Alphabet, Wed Oct-16-13 06:33 PM
How the fuck the most accomplished rapper participating this year (Kendrick) also took it the most serious? Granted he had a few axes to grind and used this as the platform..
But still, just like stated before..this is the only time most of these artist is going to get a platform where people actually give a damn and listen..this is the time tip the fuckin cup over and go full tilt..
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2848632, that's all i was thinking while watching these last night... Posted by DonWonJusuton, Wed Oct-16-13 06:51 PM
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2848641, That's probably why he's in the position he's in Posted by Luke Cage, Wed Oct-16-13 07:04 PM
>How the fuck the most accomplished rapper participating this >year (Kendrick) also took it the most serious? Granted he had >a few axes to grind and used this as the platform.. > >But still, just like stated before..this is the only time most >of these artist is going to get a platform where people >actually give a damn and listen..this is the time tip the >fuckin cup over and go full tilt..
When you're in that zone you take any and every opportunity to lay your claim as the best very seriously. To me that's what some really talented MC's never quite understand. > > >
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2848768, ^^^^ Posted by the_time_is_when_god...lounge, Thu Oct-17-13 09:01 AM
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2848798, Exactly: RE: That's probably why he's in the position he's in Posted by ToeJam, Thu Oct-17-13 10:35 AM
>>How the fuck the most accomplished rapper participating >this >>year (Kendrick) also took it the most serious? Granted he >had >>a few axes to grind and used this as the platform.. >> >>But still, just like stated before..this is the only time >most >>of these artist is going to get a platform where people >>actually give a damn and listen..this is the time tip the >>fuckin cup over and go full tilt.. > >When you're in that zone you take any and every opportunity to >lay your claim as the best very seriously. To me that's what >some really talented MC's never quite understand. >> >> >> >
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2848628, rhoh was the best Posted by Bblock, Wed Oct-16-13 06:36 PM
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2848718, I only watched the one with Jon Conner to hear the announcment Posted by ToneNice, Thu Oct-17-13 01:44 AM
Was busting up Ritz following the Italian dude.. Shit was too funny. Really thought Conner had the best presence in that particular one. Excited to see what he cooks up with this Aftermath deal.
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2849000, Kendrick/Crooked/Jay Rock/Joell all showed up Posted by micMajestic, Thu Oct-17-13 09:41 PM
_________________________________________
Lately I've had the strangest feeling.... that you were GOOOONNNNEEEE
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2849319, The Real Husbands cypher was better than most of these Posted by CaptNish, Sat Oct-19-13 11:50 PM
http://youtu.be/0uQ8CJtzF4o
Kendrick sure was the best of garbage though. King of the Short Bus looks good on him.
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2849334, yep. this year was fucking terrible Posted by navajo joe, Sun Oct-20-13 01:24 AM
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2849345, West CoastraNosta Posted by Amritsar, Sun Oct-20-13 08:59 AM
that was hot
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2849360, #Kendrick Posted by J305, Sun Oct-20-13 12:07 PM
I thought Joell Ortiz and Crooked I brought it too. I also liked Starlife Breezy from Action Bronson's cypher.
I didn't even watch the A$AP one
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2853295, RE: 2013 BET Hip-Hop Awards Cyphers (Videos) Posted by go mack, Sat Nov-02-13 11:14 PM
I was just getting around to watching this and first clicked on this parody by accident, was pretty damn funny and possibly more entertaining
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0S4zmCO3QE
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