Why wasn't LL Cool J & Rakim on "Self-Destruction"...?

What is the history behind this?

Was there an issue with KRS?

Back story people?

Peace

He was apparently at the recording session though.

Word? Shame on Def Jam...

in this video

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mwnaqomFrs

Word, thanks my G..

I can't remember why exactly, but I know LL wanted to be on it but Simmons said no. I think LL even showed up to the video shoot to offer support.

There are some great stories connected to the making of the anti-black-on-black violence single ‘Self Destruction.’ When you think back to leading such a monumental all-star project — that featured everyone from the late Heavy D and Kool Moe Dee to MC Lyte and Public Enemy — what comes to mind?

The fact that LL Cool J still showed up to the session even after Def Jam told him not to. Just imagine a triple-platinum artist wanting to show up and be part of a project so bad, but he can’t because of his record company. But again LL still shows up! Can you imagine MC Lyte and LL together writing a verse for ‘Self Destruction’? Lyte was so hardcore and so much New York female hip-hop. She was battling everybody back then. And she’s in the corner writing with a superstar like LL Cool J and they are trying to figure out how to save our children! If I was a man that cried that was my time to do it.

http://theboombox.com/krs-one-the-bdp-album/

>There are some great stories connected to the making of the
>anti-black-on-black violence single ‘Self Destruction.’ When
>you think back to leading such a monumental all-star project —
>that featured everyone from the late Heavy D and Kool Moe Dee
>to MC Lyte and Public Enemy — what comes to mind?
>
>The fact that LL Cool J still showed up to the session even
>after Def Jam told him not to. Just imagine a triple-platinum
>artist wanting to show up and be part of a project so bad, but
>he can’t because of his record company. But again LL still
>shows up! Can you imagine MC Lyte and LL together writing a
>verse for ‘Self Destruction’? Lyte was so hardcore and so much
>New York female hip-hop. She was battling everybody back then.
>And she’s in the corner writing with a superstar like LL Cool
>J and they are trying to figure out how to save our children!
>If I was a man that cried that was my time to do it.
>
>http://theboombox.com/krs-one-the-bdp-album/

Thanks for beating me to it...lol

Thanks, I thought I heard something like that...

i mean those were two of the Greatest MC's then and of all time period.

I saw LL on the set and their was some footage floating out. LL wanted to be seen as more than what Russell wanted him to be seen as.

LL was a Money man which meant Cross over and while LL wasn't going to be mixed up with Dj Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, he wasn't going to be taken as serious as Public Enemy either.

RUssell wanted LL much along the lines of Run DMC. Black, however with cross over appeal and yet not to threatening. politics, within Politics.

Yeah, I agree with you 100%

But Time Warner flexed on them as well.

Never heard that about Ice T

Like not only are LL and Rakim not in it but think about who was even bigger than both of them at the time that wasn't on the song or even in the video? Run DMC!

which flopped hard.

That shit was wack. Russell should have let them be on Self Destruction!

and the whole thing was wack & led to KRS changing course to Sex & Violence.

That it lead to Sex & Violence which is one of my favorite BDP albums.

>That it lead to Sex & Violence which is one of my favorite
>BDP albums.

I know Kris caught hella flack for that but I loved that shit. Hip Hop's a contact sport B!