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2785760, Justin Timberlake - The 20/20 Experience (stream album free)
Posted by Ryan M, Mon Mar-11-13 05:21 PM
http://t.co/RgLGQNXwiF

Thanks Jose3030.

It's through iTunes.

Interested to see what the opinion on this one's gonna be. That Pusher Love Girl is super Prince-y...
2785774, Thus far, Suit and Tie is the weakest thing on here...
Posted by Ryan M, Mon Mar-11-13 05:35 PM
Shit kinda bangs. Timbo mighta been the smart choice, and I was somewhat hesitant after hearing he was gonna do the album. This Please Don't Hold The Wall shit is crazy dope.
2785783, will check it out but dangerously close to saturation point w/this dude
Posted by Bombastic, Mon Mar-11-13 05:56 PM
him being on Fallon for a week ain't gonna help that either after watching what looked like pretty ho-hum SNL performances.

2785784, I don't blame him...the world's different now than 2006.
Posted by Ryan M, Mon Mar-11-13 05:57 PM
That said, I agree.

But this shit is pretty good tho.
2786064, record industry needs him to be a hero with this album
Posted by rjc27, Tue Mar-12-13 10:38 AM
they need someone to come out and sell 500k
2785804, Okay then.
Posted by Ryan M, Mon Mar-11-13 06:42 PM
On first listen...

Pusher Love Girl - @@@@
Suit & Tie - @@
Don't Hold the Wall - @@@@@
Strawberry Bubblegum - @@@@@
Tunnel Vision - @@@ 1/2
Spaceship Coupe - @@ 1/2
That Girl - @@@@
Let the Groove Get In - @@@@@
Mirrors - @@@@
Blue Ocean Floor - @@

Really strong album...dig it a lot.
2785807, Strawberry Bubblegum is a winner!
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Mon Mar-11-13 06:54 PM
2785815, ^^^
Posted by Aeon, Mon Mar-11-13 07:17 PM
2786297, I actually really like the last 3 minutes
Posted by Hitokiri, Tue Mar-12-13 08:32 PM
its poppy as shit, but yeah, I won't front.
2786771, hell yeah!
Posted by soulsupreme, Wed Mar-13-13 11:13 PM

______________________________________________________________
http://twitter.com/Gedi

"This is your world. Shape it or someone else will." - Gary Lew
2788688, I can't even get past it.
Posted by JFrost1117, Tue Mar-19-13 09:54 PM
It's my new "My Love". Shit is beautiful.
2785814, shit's fantastic.
Posted by Aeon, Mon Mar-11-13 07:17 PM
some of these songs, he's showing his ass on.
2785828, RE: Justin Timberlake - The 20/20 Experience (stream album free)
Posted by cheesecake, Mon Mar-11-13 07:48 PM
It's excellent, really good work from Timbo too, which is a relief. Great follow up to Futuresex/Lovesounds
2785843, Ursher lost forever.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Mar-11-13 08:15 PM
2785846, Yeszir!
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Mon Mar-11-13 08:23 PM
2785855, Usher got Beiber tho
Posted by hardware, Mon Mar-11-13 08:31 PM
2785856, yeah he can wipe his tears w/ that bieber money.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Mar-11-13 08:33 PM
cause he'll never win on the music.
2788113, RE: Ursher lost forever.
Posted by tapedeck, Mon Mar-18-13 12:05 PM
Get real. Usher still winning.

Check out NEW Soul music at: www.myspace.com/starbeing

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
Donald Byrd-Ethiopian Knights
Gene Dunlap -IJTWIF
T.I.-TMHITH
Darryl Reeves-Mercury
LoKey-B2TH
2785844, I hope this sells millions in the first week
Posted by revolution75, Mon Mar-11-13 08:18 PM
Mofo doing r&b better than those slave oontz followers
What a shame
2785845, dangelo shelves album again
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Mon Mar-11-13 08:21 PM
2785848, LMAO!
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Mon Mar-11-13 08:23 PM
I wouldn't put it past him.
2785850, ^^^ crossed my mind
Posted by revolution75, Mon Mar-11-13 08:24 PM
2785863, LOFL
Posted by astralblak, Mon Mar-11-13 08:44 PM
.
2785872, damn.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Mar-11-13 09:02 PM
2785902, rofl
Posted by Koku, Mon Mar-11-13 10:34 PM
2786288, hahaha
Posted by DolphinTeef, Tue Mar-12-13 07:58 PM
2785851, timbaland still a one trick pony
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Mon Mar-11-13 08:26 PM
2785987, how so?
Posted by QBoogie, Tue Mar-12-13 07:14 AM
2786066, Timbaland has never been a 1 trick pony... explain that please
Posted by rjc27, Tue Mar-12-13 10:39 AM
2786890, boom tickaticka boom Clap.....boom tickaticka boom Clap frikkifrikki UR
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Mar-14-13 12:16 PM
2786909, lol's in real life
Posted by hammam, Thu Mar-14-13 01:41 PM
2787677, ahahahahaha yes. n/m
Posted by Delajoo, Sat Mar-16-13 11:23 PM
2785852, so like whats the difference between him and the other white guy
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Mon Mar-11-13 08:28 PM
2785857, RE: so like whats the difference between him and the other white guy
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Mon Mar-11-13 08:36 PM
He knows how to put together an album. Not sure who the other white guy is though.
2785858, is that more so timbaland or justin
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Mon Mar-11-13 08:39 PM
>He knows how to put together an album. Not sure who the other
>white guy is though.
2785861, who cares. clearly they bring the best out of each other
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Mar-11-13 08:40 PM
cause timbo aint been worth a damn in a minute.
2785862, RE: is that more so timbaland or justin
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Mon Mar-11-13 08:41 PM
It's a combination of the two. What has Tim been doing since the last JT album?
2785864, seems like he would be eating all them checks
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Mon Mar-11-13 08:46 PM
>It's a combination of the two. What has Tim been doing since
>the last JT album?
2785870, RE: seems like he would be eating all them checks
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Mon Mar-11-13 08:50 PM
Come on sis, you heard the duds Tim was putting out since 07. Them terrible future shock albums, working with Madonna, Keri Hilson, Ashlee Simpson, Chris Cornell, etc. He went through a dry spell. Him and JT are a winning combination.
2785874, I gotta respectfully disagree...
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Mar-11-13 09:06 PM
them Shock Value joints had some bangers! Your overall point is well-taken, though.
2785916, the first one had bangers ...
Posted by QBoogie, Mon Mar-11-13 11:16 PM
... the second one was trying to ride the first ones coat tails and didn't hit as near as SV1. I'm yet to listen to 20/20 but I cannot wait!
2785860, She talking bout Robin....and outside the first album they shouldn't be
Posted by tomjohn29, Mon Mar-11-13 08:39 PM
Compared
2785865, first jt album thats ever been on my hd
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Mon Mar-11-13 08:47 PM
dude brininging back the extended cut
2785917, Robin is a good artist and has good songs ...
Posted by QBoogie, Mon Mar-11-13 11:18 PM
... but is yet to have a good album. His best to me is Something Else, and I haven't heard his first joint under the star track label but his long hair disco sampling days album didn't hit me like something else. Other than that his albums are more like compilations. No where near cohesive.
2785996, RE: Robin is a good artist and has good songs ...
Posted by Af-1, Tue Mar-12-13 07:57 AM
Surprised to hear someone say 'Something Else' isn't a cohesive album. It definitely sounds like it is to me.
2785866, usher cryin in the car
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Mon Mar-11-13 08:47 PM
2785871, RE: usher cryin in the car
Posted by double 0, Mon Mar-11-13 08:51 PM
^^^ before his old ass goes to dance practicezzz
2785995, Go, that made me laugh!
Posted by Af-1, Tue Mar-12-13 07:56 AM
2786324, RE: usher cryin in the car
Posted by tapedeck, Tue Mar-12-13 09:48 PM
Get reeeeal. Usher still winnin.

Check out NEW Soul music at: www.myspace.com/starbeing

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
Donald Byrd-Ethiopian Knights
Gene Dunlap -IJTWIF
T.I.-TMHITH
Darryl Reeves-Mercury
LoKey-B2TH
2785873, Spsceship!!
Posted by lightworks, Mon Mar-11-13 09:04 PM
2785879, this whole album is tough
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Mar-11-13 09:22 PM
jt & timbo did the damn thing. excellent growth from both of them
not a song i dont like. even fs/ls had a few duds. the highlights were just so high.
this feels like one long highlight. perfectly sequenced. detailed to the point of self-indulgence

well fucking done. jt & timbo put their foot in this joint.
2785895, Timbo managed to do it again.
Posted by MarVeL, Mon Mar-11-13 10:02 PM
Lets show that man some love.
2785909, his sound is hitting again.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Mar-11-13 10:59 PM
2785896, song ratings and lil' thoughts
Posted by astralblak, Mon Mar-11-13 10:03 PM
1. Pusher Love Girl @@@ 1/2
-dope and the ending change up is NOICE even if it goes a bit too long. the lil' rappity singing JT does in the middle is lame tho.
2. Suit & Tie @@@
-been liked this song (AND jay's verse), even if it's not great. sits nicely within the album
3. Don't Hold the Wall @@@ 3/4
-first half is ill, the second half is better
4. Strawberry Bubblegum @@@@
-great song. period
5. Tunnel Vision @@@@@
-my favorite. this shit is flames
6. Spaceship Coupe @@@@
-that baby making fly shit. it's Timbo's old sound and new wrapped up in one track
7. That Girl @@@@
-more goodness. the slow/fast, kinda staccato vocal approach JT took on this is great.
8. Let the Groove Get In @ 1/2
-first dud. this shit borders on corny and sounds different from the preceding seven songs. may dig this playing at a gathering tho, sippin' 'gnac
9. Mirrors @@
-sounds like roided up Timbo circa Ginuwine. skippable after one listen
10. Blue Ocean Floor @@@@ 1/2
-this shit is beautiful. the soundscapes are eerie and morose yet inviting. perfect end cap.
2785898, if you go away for six years, you'd better come back with something like this
Posted by Tiger Woods, Mon Mar-11-13 10:19 PM
bravo JT
2785899, On first listen, it might be his best album
Posted by mrshow, Mon Mar-11-13 10:19 PM
I'd say the singles were stronger on his first two but this flows together really well. Tim went for a more "analog" sound here and it really works for the most part. Suit and Tie and Mirrors work better in the context of the album but still feel like pretty blatant pandering to Top 40 stations and soccer moms. Feel like he was listening to a ton of Radiohead while making this one in its attempts to create real atmosphere.
2785901, very nice/good points
Posted by astralblak, Mon Mar-11-13 10:33 PM
.
2785915, also andre 3000 lost too.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Mar-11-13 11:14 PM
spaceship coupe. that shit is jammin.
2785953, hit and miss
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Mar-12-13 02:09 AM
timberland ain't done nothing more for timberlake than he did with ginuwine.

and timberlake is a marginal talent with the complextion for the protection.
2786012, RE: hit and miss
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-12-13 08:24 AM
>timberland ain't done nothing more for timberlake than he
>did with ginuwine.
>
>and timberlake is a marginal talent with the complextion
>for the protection.


U r amazing...U know when people use the word "hater" and how shallow that word has become?

Well, you have def. lived up to that moniker...U don't like shit that didn't come out after 2000...lol...except the acts you name-check at the end of every post...And most of those acts (beyond Kelly who on the real has released strong material) are either dead or haven't released shit in ages...

2786016, RE: hit and miss
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Mar-12-13 08:35 AM
His main issue with JT is that he's white.
2786022, but maxxx has praised
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Mar-12-13 09:04 AM
Bee Gees
Steely Dan
Teena Marie
Boz Scaggs
Dr. John

etc
2786024, and he's a massive michael jackson fan.
Posted by shockzilla, Tue Mar-12-13 09:07 AM
2786026, LOL
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Mar-12-13 09:14 AM
2786028, RE: and he's a massive michael jackson fan.
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-12-13 09:21 AM



Massive doesn't do it justice...
2786091, Michael Jackson is a Black soul brother and timberlake is a fake one
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Mar-12-13 11:16 AM
only culture bandits would even dare entertain saying timberlake's name in the same sentence as MJ.

Michael Jackson changed the course of music twice as a kid and as a adult.

timberlake has gotten small crums and been given some honor when in reality he is a puppet light in the musical cakes.

folks ain't got no standards no more
2786829, RE: Michael Jackson is a Black soul brother and timberlake is a fake one
Posted by murph71, Thu Mar-14-13 08:57 AM


We all know who MJ is and was...Most folks on this board loved the man...

But unlike you we don't use Mike to put other acts down at EVERY turn...

I'll say it again...I'm not a HUGE Timberlake fan...But at least go at dude on the music tip and chill with the shit he has no control over...

Dude is white...That's very well apparent...We know white folks have gotten over for years...And still do...

But this is dude's third album....If you find the music lacking, I dig that...But as usually you are going at this with a Ham-fisted way...
2786951, RE: Michael Jackson is a Black soul brother and timberlake is a fake one
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Mar-14-13 02:22 PM
you don't see the big picture and this turkey was on some picture recently on his toes still in a MJ pose.

i hung out with a real soul brother the other day a good Homie who said point blank about timberlake that he is worse than Corey Feldman at jacking MJ and I didn't say a word and cracked up.

you see the difference is that I hang out with real Black folks Old school who call it real and don't downplay the obvious.

timberfake been on Michael Jackson worse than Bubbles ever was.

you can let that turkey slide i can't s.
2786043, lmao
Posted by Coco la chapelle, Tue Mar-12-13 09:56 AM
2786027, RE: but maxxx has praised
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-12-13 09:19 AM
>Bee Gees
>Steely Dan
>Teena Marie
>Boz Scaggs
>Dr. John
>
>etc


It's a mix....He's cool with giving some praise to white cats...That is if they released an album before 1999...Hell, maybe even 1990...lol
2786029, RE: but maxxx has praised
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Mar-12-13 09:26 AM
oh okay, so he just doesn't like new ish besides Kells.
2786030, RE: but maxxx has praised
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-12-13 09:28 AM
>oh okay, so he just doesn't like new ish besides Kells.


Bingo^^^^^^

And he doesn't like anyone who threatens his favorites...
2786033, All that being said, I think maxxx's review is mostly fair
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Mar-12-13 09:35 AM
and accurate.

I mean, if someone less controversial than maxxx had said it, it would not be a big deal.

The album IS hit and miss, imho

(But shit... what ISN'T these days?)

I'm streaming the album now and I'm generally enjoying a lot of what I hear... but at the same time I am not feeling the overpowering urge to listen to it again once I'm done.

But hey... I listened to FutureSex/LoveSounds only once too.

(On the other hand, I listened to Justified like 13,736 times)

I don't cosign the racial element of maxxx's post--though I understand how one could arrive at that. I'm not concerned about whether being white allows JT to do certain things... I'm just really bugged by the feeling of insincerity and smarminess that surrounds so much of his work.

I just don't BELIEVE him.

I don't know why that should matter in such an all-around cynical age, but it does.

I want something I can FEEL.

Not just ear candy.

I also want to stop stealing Joe Corn Mo's posting style.
2786040, I haven't heard the new one yet.
Posted by denny, Tue Mar-12-13 09:52 AM
But I generally agree with your assessment.

For me, JT just is not a good singer. I dig most of the music...but the singing is really thin and lacking soul.
2786094, that is the problem the cat's vocal chops don't merit the hype
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Mar-12-13 11:18 AM
he is too light in the cakes to ever bring the goods.
2786215, the light voice an issue for me too-song has to be strong to overcome it
Posted by Bombastic, Tue Mar-12-13 04:21 PM
while at the same time not completely overwhelming it either.
2786047, RE: All that being said, I think maxxx's review is mostly fair
Posted by Coco la chapelle, Tue Mar-12-13 10:06 AM
>The album IS hit and miss, imho
>(But shit... what ISN'T these days?)

Not even these days, Im sure 99% of music release was hit or miss back then too.

>But hey... I listened to FutureSex/LoveSounds only once too.

I don't see what's the big deal with FuturSex/LoveSounds too. Of course it wasn't total garbage and I wouldn't say that it was bad either but I've never felt the need to listen to that album again after 1st listen (I went back to a couple of songs though)

>I'm just really bugged by the feeling of insincerity and
>smarminess that surrounds so much of his work.
>I just don't BELIEVE him.
>I don't know why that should matter in such an all-around
>cynical age, but it does.
>I want something I can FEEL.
>Not just ear candy.
>I also want to stop stealing Joe Corn Mo's posting style.

I don't think he's being dishonest though, his music really fits his public figure.
2786042, Maybe he just doesn't feel it
Posted by Coco la chapelle, Tue Mar-12-13 09:55 AM
>U r amazing...U know when people use the word "hater" and how
>shallow that word has become?
>
>Well, you have def. lived up to that moniker...U don't like
>shit that didn't come out after 2000...lol...except the acts
>you name-check at the end of every post...And most of those
>acts (beyond Kelly who on the real has released strong
>material) are either dead or haven't released shit in ages...

Because,in maxxx's defense, he has liked some things post 2000 like Joe's "Signature" or Bilal's "A Love surreal" for example. He has also aknowledged Bruno Mars's talent and has never been harsh on Miguel (or maybe I just didn't see it). Is that JT's album so good that no one can dislike it ?
2786045, RE: Maybe he just doesn't feel it
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Mar-12-13 10:00 AM
>Because,in maxxx's defense, he has liked some things post 2000
>like Joe's "Signature" or Bilal's "A Love surreal" for
>example. He has also aknowledged Bruno Mars's talent and has
>never been harsh on Miguel (or maybe I just didn't see it). Is
>that JT's album so good that no one can dislike it ?
>
not at all. I just notice a lot of his posts are black artist >>> white artist but i was corrected above because he does give a few pilgrims their props.
2786051, RE: Maybe he just doesn't feel it
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-12-13 10:20 AM
>>U r amazing...U know when people use the word "hater" and
>how
>>shallow that word has become?
>>
>>Well, you have def. lived up to that moniker...U don't like
>>shit that didn't come out after 2000...lol...except the acts
>>you name-check at the end of every post...And most of those
>>acts (beyond Kelly who on the real has released strong
>>material) are either dead or haven't released shit in
>ages...
>
>Because,in maxxx's defense, he has liked some things post 2000
>like Joe's "Signature" or Bilal's "A Love surreal" for
>example. He has also aknowledged Bruno Mars's talent and has
>never been harsh on Miguel (or maybe I just didn't see it). Is
>that JT's album so good that no one can dislike it ?


Nah..u guys gotta keep up with Maxx's narrative...

The new JT album is better than what I expected...Nothing groundbreaking, but better than a lot of what passes for R&B these days...

But this^^^^ is not hyperbole...And I wouldn't be mad at folks shitting on it because Timberlake is not the end all to be all...He's not worth the energy...


The thing with Maxx though is he shits on ANYONE he deems a challenge to his beloved acts...

Like I said, I'm down with getting at the white boy for the fact he came out unscathed after that JJ nipplegate fiasco...And I looked at him sideways during the Prince squabble...

But people shouldn't play dumb or be naive here...There's a pattern with Maxx when it comes to these things...

If it was just about dude being critical of the music then it's all good...

But we all know that ain't the case...lol
2786055, so who exactly is JT posing a threat to here?
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Mar-12-13 10:26 AM

>The thing with Maxx though is he shits on ANYONE he deems a
>challenge to his beloved acts...

Surely not Michael? or Stevie (LOL)?

And if it's Ursher... maxxx generally calls Ursher a peanut-head turkey.

So who?
2786062, RE: so who exactly is JT posing a threat to here?
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Mar-12-13 10:38 AM
>
>>The thing with Maxx though is he shits on ANYONE he deems a
>>challenge to his beloved acts...
>
>Surely not Michael? or Stevie (LOL)?
>
>And if it's Ursher... maxxx generally calls Ursher a
>peanut-head turkey.
>
>So who?

but he will also say that Ursher is better than JT which I don't agree with. At least not as far as making albums.
2786074, RE: so who exactly is JT posing a threat to here?
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-12-13 10:50 AM
>
>>The thing with Maxx though is he shits on ANYONE he deems a
>>challenge to his beloved acts...
>
>Surely not Michael? or Stevie (LOL)?
>
>And if it's Ursher... maxxx generally calls Ursher a
>peanut-head turkey.
>
>So who?


Sure he calls Usher a turkey....

But there's a reason why he always says Usher is better than Timberlake...And in terms of MJ...The threat is NOT in dude ever reaching the King of Pop's level...

Maxx doesn't like the idea of the white boy blasting off with MJ's sound that first time around...And then evolving into some other shit where he is now being looked at as the biggest solo male act around today that's not catering to 13 year olds...

There's a lot of things going on here...lol...There's racial bias... the fact that Maxx is out of touch when it comes to some of the music of today...the fact that at times he's shown some pretty laughable taste when it comes to music (most alarmingly hip-hop)...

But hey, I've been called a weirdo too..The thing is, however, I never let my own obsessions get in the way...

If something is good, it's good...

Point blank, period...
2786243, talk about it.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Mar-12-13 05:58 PM
2786375, lmao!
Posted by Ashley Ayers, Wed Mar-13-13 04:04 AM
>And if it's Ursher... maxxx generally calls Ursher a
>peanut-head turkey.
>
>So who?
2786063, Well it's fair I guess
Posted by Coco la chapelle, Tue Mar-12-13 10:38 AM
>The thing with Maxx though is he shits on ANYONE he deems a
>challenge to his beloved acts...
>
>Like I said, I'm down with getting at the white boy for the
>fact he came out unscathed after that JJ nipplegate
>fiasco...And I looked at him sideways during the Prince
>squabble...
>
>But people shouldn't play dumb or be naive here...There's a
>pattern with Maxx when it comes to these things...
>
>If it was just about dude being critical of the music then
>it's all good...
>
>But we all know that ain't the case...lol

You're right about that and I've said it myself, he's particulary hard on those who challenge his champions. Prince is the perfect example of this. But I don't think JT is a threat to any of his champions and certainly not R Kelly.
2786079, RE: Well it's fair I guess
Posted by murph71, Tue Mar-12-13 10:56 AM
>>The thing with Maxx though is he shits on ANYONE he deems a
>>challenge to his beloved acts...
>>
>>Like I said, I'm down with getting at the white boy for the
>>fact he came out unscathed after that JJ nipplegate
>>fiasco...And I looked at him sideways during the Prince
>>squabble...
>>
>>But people shouldn't play dumb or be naive here...There's a
>>pattern with Maxx when it comes to these things...
>>
>>If it was just about dude being critical of the music then
>>it's all good...
>>
>>But we all know that ain't the case...lol
>
>You're right about that and I've said it myself, he's
>particulary hard on those who challenge his champions. Prince
>is the perfect example of this. But I don't think JT is a
>threat to any of his champions and certainly not R Kelly.

He's a threat as long as he overshadows his favorites that make music today...

And the white element looms large...lol..

I'm a race man myself...But dude turns that shit up to 11...
2786095, JT bites R.Kelly and he loves Kellz
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Mar-12-13 11:23 AM
problem for JT there is he knows he couldn't carry kellz stepper's shoes.

kellz tuned down working with him as well.


and you have worked with the real MJ why you gonna work with a lite clone one?
2786089, timberlake is the puppet of pop
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Mar-12-13 11:10 AM
pure and simple. i like him on snl and that show should have been canceled easily 25 years ago, however his routines are funny and entertaining.

however timberlake is like me watching silver spoons the kid who has it all, however its so shallow and for all the hype that mayo turkey gets its not there.

marginal singer, writer, dancer, actor.

he ain't no george michael.

turkey ain't never writing no "careless whisper" or father figure"

and what exactly is timberfluff doing that ginuwine didn't already do again?

if timberlake was black he would be lucky to be Bobby Valentino's opening act at the drive thru of a red lobster's.
2786112, you do bring up a good point, yet no one has addressed your claim
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Tue Mar-12-13 11:42 AM
>pure and simple. i like him on snl and that show should have
>been canceled easily 25 years ago, however his routines are
>funny and entertaining.
>
>however timberlake is like me watching silver spoons the kid
>who has it all, however its so shallow and for all the hype
>that mayo turkey gets its not there.
>
>marginal singer, writer, dancer, actor.
>
>he ain't no george michael.
>
>turkey ain't never writing no "careless whisper" or father
>figure"
>
>and what exactly is timberfluff doing that ginuwine didn't
>already do again?
>
>if timberlake was black he would be lucky to be Bobby
>Valentino's opening act at the drive thru of a red
>lobster's.
2786119, RE: you do bring up a good point, yet no one has addressed your claim
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Mar-12-13 11:53 AM
what current artist is making better albums than JT?
2786185, Avant
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Tue Mar-12-13 02:17 PM
>what current artist is making better albums than JT?
2786194, we can agree to disagree
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Mar-12-13 02:57 PM
2786195, Austin Brown's mixtape >>>>> JT's album
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Mar-12-13 03:01 PM
and it ain't even close (c)
2786197, RE: Austin Brown's mixtape >>>>> JT's album
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Mar-12-13 03:02 PM
I will check that out
2786230, i really like that a lot, even with that OONTZ song.
Posted by shockzilla, Tue Mar-12-13 04:52 PM
2786237, That track is so out of place
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Mar-12-13 05:37 PM
but somehow even it ended up growing on me
2786424, it's a good song with shitty production.
Posted by shockzilla, Wed Mar-13-13 09:01 AM
2786376, RE: Austin Brown's mixtape >>>>> JT's album
Posted by Ashley Ayers, Wed Mar-13-13 04:06 AM
Word!
2786321, they can't address it, because they been Snow Powdered by
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Mar-12-13 09:41 PM
that turkey and the media.

anybody who grew up on Michael Jackson and heard him at his best and timberlake at his best ain't even thinking of no Justin Timberlake they would tell that white boy you need to hang out with donny osmond and polish up your game son.

Timberlake gotta be turning tricks in somebody's office or something because that turkey is marginal as they come
2786099, maxx what would we do without you man?
Posted by makaveli, Tue Mar-12-13 11:33 AM
a maxx reply equals at the very least like 5 other replies.
2786106, i just can't believe the hype this cat gets
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Mar-12-13 11:39 AM
pure pop puppet. marginal as all get up.
2786109, What current artist is making better albums than JT fam?
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Mar-12-13 11:41 AM
2786307, of today Bruno Mars is better than timberlake as a writer
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Mar-12-13 09:24 PM
and while i ain't knocked out by Mars at least he ain't that corny and Mars's band spanks JT's.

both are broke MJ's however Mars actually doesn't try so hard all the time.
2786313, I respect your opinion even when I disagree, but I gotta draw a line
Posted by CaptNish, Tue Mar-12-13 09:33 PM
The Tennessee Kids son Bruno's band. It ain't even close.

I will say, Bruno is a better pop melody writer than JT though. And technically a better singer. But he doesn't have the songs that *move* me. JT's got them. "Broke version of...." all you want, his songs move. Outside of "Locked Out of Heaven" Bruno has nothing that doesn't sound like an American Idol contestant's first single for me. But I wouldn't pit these two against each other, when both are eatin' off plates they deservedly earned.

Here's the thing about JT that I'll doubt you'll accept. Dude is charismatic as fuck. And he's surrounded himself post-boy band with team of dudes who elevate that charisma musically. Is he seeing the "great?" Probably not. But is he seeing his contemporaries? Yeah. Ten fold.
2786319, like i said puppet of pop is all that turkey is and will ever be
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Mar-12-13 09:38 PM
charisma, personality and boring with a thin voice which has no turning point.

truth is though Bruno Mars wears a bunch of influences on his sleeves, he can get out and play and do it. timberlake can't do no Bob Marley tribute with no sting on stage. sorry it ain't happening and Bruno's band can groove and is versatile.

JT's band is like some supper house band and i heard them do the jacksons's shake your body down to the ground" and that whole performance felt like it was funky for a retirement home.

Timberlake ain't seeing nobody on the real.

he just got the right complextion and he is a marginal talent.

always been and always will be a lite in the cakes broke MJ and i can name better white boys for that title and role than timberfluff.

all the polish and shine can't hide the lite in the cakes chops that turkey has.
2786335, now I get it..he did a song with Jay-Z
Posted by rdhull, Tue Mar-12-13 10:49 PM
2786365, they don't carry no weight
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Mar-13-13 01:33 AM
i agreed with kayne west about suit and tie and i can't stand kayne musically, so sorry Mr.Charlie try again
2786397, huh? the're the top in music...like it or not
Posted by rdhull, Wed Mar-13-13 07:45 AM
>i agreed with kayne west about suit and tie and i can't stand
>kayne musically, so sorry Mr.Charlie try again
2786472, kayne in hip hop, however frosty timberlake is not
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Mar-13-13 11:38 AM
the most happpening white boy, leave it to bieber is.

also lay z is on some puffy can i be down with you thang. his wife is the superstar by default in that household
2786115, RE: i just can't believe the hype this cat gets
Posted by Red07, Tue Mar-12-13 11:49 AM
>pure pop puppet. marginal as all get up.


I agree. Hear the album, not bad at all..I'm treating it like the movie Zero Dark Thirty.. No replay value for me where as Hurt Locker I can watch over and over as listen to FS/LS
2786084, After a few listens, it's a solid album. It definitely THUMPS...
Posted by Taye DiggumSmacks, Tue Mar-12-13 11:03 AM
Admittedly I've always been lukewarm on his voice, but he does sound vocally inspired here. And I like that he and Timbaland once again crafted a consistent sound/vibe, which makes for a cohesive album.

"Strawberry Bubblegum" is dope, as is "Don't Hold Up The Wall". That Girl" is smooth. "Blue Ocean Floor" is a nice closer (though I feel a more emotive and dramatic singer like Bjork or Wendy Stubbs (Alpha), would have blown this out of the water). And I'm probably one of a handful of people that actually likes "Suit & Tie" (though Jay's verse is unnecessary, and the "screwed" beat change-up is boring)...

However, I think the sound may be a bit TOO consistent. I don't know if it was the combination of heavy drums and fuzzy basslines, but after awhile, I felt the songs began to run into each other, and were hard to distinguish. The musical backdrops lacked enough nuances to really pull me in. I wish they'd have utilized his band more, provided a few more organic moments to contrast the harder mechanical beats.

This was especially important given the length of the songs. If you're going to make 6-8 minute songs, you have to have enough elements to hold a person's attention or at least set a mood that hypnotizes/locks you in. I don't think the beat change-ups were very interesting. Not saying they needed to do another "Lovestoned/I Think She Knows" (which I think was a excellent example of how to do it), but they didn't take me sonically to another level, make me say, "OH SHIT." Instead some of the songs seemed overlong and slightly droning. *shrug*

Overall, it's a solid album. It's warm and familiar, but I haven't caught the groove of it yet. That'll take some time...
2786108, White America needs him since Eminem is coasting
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Mar-12-13 11:40 AM
and that's it in a nut shell. and timberlake was always the 2nd doughboy to Eminem and now by default he is the next in line

and bieber is too young and unproven still
2786186, ubringing the ether today
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Tue Mar-12-13 02:19 PM
2786188, And huffin' it himself. Seems he left a lil for you too lol
Posted by CaptNish, Tue Mar-12-13 02:30 PM
.
2786183, I am a fan. let me delete Suit & Tie and it's a SOLID album
Posted by CherNic, Tue Mar-12-13 02:15 PM
I love the Brazilian sound on a couple of the tracks
2786219, This is my shit niggas!!!
Posted by bwood, Tue Mar-12-13 04:28 PM
I'm definitely copping the Target version with the bonus tracks. I fucks with it all. I would say that to me the weakest track is definitely Blue Ocean Floor.
2786236, Itunes wont download. Any other place has the stream?
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Tue Mar-12-13 05:26 PM
2786240, It's the voice.
Posted by luvlee2003, Tue Mar-12-13 05:56 PM
Been trying to figure out what my issue is with JT.

It's his voice. Listening to Spaceship Coupe right now and his voice is just unappealing to me. I'm imagining a singer with more presence and soul and I think that person would kill this. Even the confidence a Trey Songs or Chris Brown brings could help here. (He's whiny, I know, just saying...)

What's crazy is a lot of the songs where he uses more layers with his voice sounds like NSYNC stuff to me. The first part of Mirrors has boy band vibes all over it.

Kudos on the energy of the album though. Layers of sound effects are nice. This has elements of the timbaland beats I preferred from the 2000's which is fun. This is basically that last Ginuwine album with Timbo that never happened. The strings and tempo remind me of how Janet did some of her albums too.

I'm wondering how radio play is gonna pan out. Although its an RnB album, this sounds nothing like the things i hear on "urban" stations right now. It's reminiscent of everything being played during timbos peak, but not being played anymore. Pop stations love JT though so he's covered, I guess.



2786246, RE: It's the voice.
Posted by double 0, Tue Mar-12-13 06:07 PM
Pop radio is a free for all....

Baauer has the number 1 song in the country
ke$ha gets hourly spins
Macklemore gets hourly spins...
Rihanna got a piano ballad in the top 40
this shit will fit right in


They'll definitely edit it tho... they edited suit and tie for radio.. so the beat never changes.. slow shit doesn't come in
2790772, That's a fair criticism.
Posted by BSharp, Wed Mar-27-13 08:39 AM
If you don't like his voice, that's one thing.

But I've been seeing criticism suggesting that this album is conservative or boring musically, that argument holds no water.
2786241, i dig it more with each listen... and in the whip? damn.
Posted by DonWonJusuton, Tue Mar-12-13 05:57 PM
this sounds so time-appropriate... i def. hear some prince, off the wall era mj, the dream, old school timbo and early 00's neptunes (in terms of songwriting) influences in there, but not egregiously.. i feel like they effectively gave us some of those comfortable grooves, but with a really cool/new twist.. and i refuse to call this a JT album, unless it stands for "Justin - Timbaland"... i'm sure it was a very collaborative effort.. but timbo helmed a really well thought out album.. and his stamp is all over this one.. JT turned in exactly what he needed to.. i was expecting this album to be good, i'm a decently big fan of both of them, but this def. exceeded my expectations...
2786250, Listening to this "Strawberry Bubblegum" song now
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Tue Mar-12-13 06:26 PM
2786251, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Tue Mar-12-13 06:31 PM
2786252, I'm interested in your live tweeting of the album please do more.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Mar-12-13 06:32 PM
2786258, It's alright I guess
Posted by Coco la chapelle, Tue Mar-12-13 06:49 PM
I just don't feel it like that. To be quiet honest, some parts of the record were pretty painful and some were really good. If Im bored one day, I’ll give it a second chance based on the hype but I have yet to understand what’s the big deal with that man.

+

I like how they blend all the songs to create an “album experience”, it’s a pretty cohesive album
It got rythm, even the songs that I find annoying are not boring
I guess he has found his sound because I don’t feel like he is biting anybody sound on this one
At least it sounds like R&B
Fav tracks : Suit & Tie, That Girl, Blue Ocean Floor … Don’t Hold the Wall would have been a monster if it wasn’t for the first 4 min of the song.

-

Those songs are too long and IMO some of them are not strong enough to be extended to 8 min
Most of the extensions are WAY better than the first part of the song, so why bother ? Just cut the songs or just release their second part. This reminds me of Frank Ocean’s “Pyramids” : the first 4 min of the song are a total waste of time.
Some of these songs already sound dated and they have just been released, I guess it must be the whole “Timbo 2004 plastic sounding production”
Not a fan of dude’s voice, yes he can sing, no it doesn’t sound bad, it's just not my cup of tea
Timbaland need to stop with that cheesy “oriental” shit, it wasn’t good back then, it isn’t today
2786262, I see Blue Ocean Floor getting Radiohead comparions?
Posted by Nodima, Tue Mar-12-13 06:53 PM
It's obviously a Jimmy Eat World song.

Not a diss, just what it is. We all know Timbaland digs that sound. It's "Goodbye Sky Harbour" for the Extenze crowd.

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2786569, It's like Timbaland heard something from that horrid Folktronica/Electro...
Posted by Eph, Wed Mar-13-13 02:48 PM
-Acoustic period during the early-mid aughts and imitated it.
2786309, i talked to a fellow soul brother today and he had me rolling
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Mar-12-13 09:25 PM
he said and I quote that Justin Timberlake isn't even as good as Corey Feldman at being a Broke Michael Jackson.

now that was some serious laughs and daps over some grub.

2786318, Shut up, nigger.
Posted by Eph, Tue Mar-12-13 09:38 PM
2786320, This made me laugh out loud
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Mar-12-13 09:40 PM
fam, don't change for nobody
2786323, That's hysterical
Posted by 201cue, Tue Mar-12-13 09:46 PM
The album is quite good though.
2786486, Check this out....
Posted by denny, Wed Mar-13-13 12:10 PM
Old hunchback Corey Feldman performing here in Toronto:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cylUp7cRU7s
2786534, You Rudy Poot vanilla latte sippin clowns praisin TimberFAKE smh
Posted by 81 DUN, Wed Mar-13-13 01:51 PM
I ain't even heard the album and its already tired. I don't listen to no imitation, artificial, trash. It's like Pat Boone all over again. And y'all flocking to it some sad shit.
2786322, very good album
Posted by tapedeck, Tue Mar-12-13 09:42 PM
Didn't care for "mirrors".

Check out NEW Soul music at: www.myspace.com/starbeing

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
Donald Byrd-Ethiopian Knights
Gene Dunlap -IJTWIF
T.I.-TMHITH
Darryl Reeves-Mercury
LoKey-B2TH
2786332, Yeah, I didn't like Mirrors either. Sounds too much like another
Posted by catalyst, Tue Mar-12-13 10:39 PM
Timbo produced song...."What Goes Around", I think .
2786372, The guitar is horrible
Posted by mrshow, Wed Mar-13-13 03:31 AM
drags down the whole song.
2786341, Eh, gotta download iTunes. I'll wait 'til it's on Spotify.
Posted by The Wordsmith, Tue Mar-12-13 11:17 PM

Since 1976
2786350, i wonder what 15 thinks.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Mar-12-13 11:43 PM
2786370, That Girl..is so f*ckin' dope
Posted by Ascension, Wed Mar-13-13 02:22 AM
probably the most underrated joint on there.


Instagram: ascensionmusic
2786373, it reminds me of carl thomas "the babymaker"
Posted by bucknchange, Wed Mar-13-13 03:35 AM
which is a good thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsKb1vdraf8
2786461, that's my fav song too I don't hear noone talking about it
Posted by Menphyel7, Wed Mar-13-13 11:08 AM
2786405, i wish it was anyone but him singing
Posted by ternary_star, Wed Mar-13-13 08:11 AM
good tracks, but he just does NOT pull off the level of "swagger" he puts out.

the first line on the album..."hey lil' mama"...that shit is just not native to his tongue. he's putting on a weird wigger act and it's uncomfortable...takes me out of the music too often.
2786415, I kinda feel like this too. I can hear Usher all over these tracks. He'd
Posted by catalyst, Wed Mar-13-13 08:36 AM
sound more authentic.
2786425, RE: I kinda feel like this too. I can hear Usher all over these tracks. He'd
Posted by tapedeck, Wed Mar-13-13 09:04 AM
Wooooord.

Check out NEW Soul music at: www.myspace.com/starbeing

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
Donald Byrd-Ethiopian Knights
Gene Dunlap -IJTWIF
T.I.-TMHITH
Darryl Reeves-Mercury
LoKey-B2TH
2786432, RE: I kinda feel like this too. I can hear Usher all over these tracks. He'd
Posted by kwemos, Wed Mar-13-13 09:19 AM
Usher would have turned them into euro-dance mixes. So that's alright.
2786436, You can hear it but Usher can't
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Wed Mar-13-13 09:30 AM
dude would never make an album like this. Has he ever worked with one producer for an entire album? No. Dude is a singles artist.
2786474, "singles artist"? With albums like "Confession" & "8701"? Yeah, ok.....
Posted by catalyst, Wed Mar-13-13 11:43 AM
This album gets major points for being cohesive & it's very good, but a lot of this is Timbo showing off. Plus, vocally, JT has always been average at best. Besides, I think Frank & Miguel's albums are just as enjoyable, if not more than this. Time will tell....
2786496, RE: "singles artist"? With albums like "Confession" & "8701"? Yeah, ok.....
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Wed Mar-13-13 12:30 PM
I'll give you Confessions. Great album. 8701 had only a few tracks to me. He's a singles artist IMO.
2786437, no thanks.
Posted by Aeon, Wed Mar-13-13 09:33 AM
2786501, lmao get the fuck outta here.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Mar-13-13 12:56 PM
2786408, Something needs to be said about "hold the wall"........
Posted by sersey, Wed Mar-13-13 08:24 AM
It's prolly my favorite track, the second half is some epic shit..... BUT, am I the only one that notices the syncopation of percussion to instrumentation is completely off!??! (Only on the 2nd half of the song)

And not that Sa-Ra delayed swing kind of off. Its a cant catch the beat, or nod your head properly to the rhythm kinda off. Please tell me I'm not the only one to notice this shit.

I'm hoping the retail cd version isn't like this, and its just some iTunes mastering bullshit.
2786456, i like this record a lot, but ive got my issues with it
Posted by fontgangsta, Wed Mar-13-13 10:53 AM
i wish there were more tight tracks like That Girl.
ill pass on Hold The Wall. I know there will never be an end to songs about dancing to said song, but i dont need any more.
Strawberry Bubblegum doesn't do anything for me until the changeup for the last couple mins...i guess in this case these longs yarns of songs are a benefit, because if you don't like the first 6 mins, maybe you'll like the last 3.
but generally, my biggest issue is that the album is completely over-indulgent on timbalands part. i think it's a really really good record that could have been GREAT if tim focused more on the album and what IT needed, rather than on all the fun stuff and multiple movements that he wanted to do with the tracks. but obvs JT was down with all that stuff, so it is what it is i guess.
2786462, bonus tracks leaked.."body count and Dress on"
Posted by Menphyel7, Wed Mar-13-13 11:09 AM
This Dress on song would be my top 3 on the album..Body count is a aight bonus song.
2786476, The 20/20 Experience: my review
Posted by johnbook, Wed Mar-13-13 11:47 AM
==begin swipe==
Like many, I’m someone who looked forward to hearing what Justin Timberlake would be doing with his third album. It has been almost seven years since his last release, during a period in the music industry where if you don’t have new music every three months, you’re considered a has-been. Arguably, Timberlake has the luxuries of not having to bow down to the industry at all, but there comes a time when the demand is great, be it from the public or your own. Timberlake has always been someone, at least from interviews, who loves music. He had wondered why MTV doesn’t cater to more music at a time when they have become everything but music, to no avail. With the release of “Suit & Tie” as a first single, the reception from it was enough to reveal what everyone had already known: don’t call it a comeback, he’s been here for years.

The 20/20 Experience (RCA) is a unique album for a number of reasons. It is very much a pop album, but its roots are very much in soul and that soulful touch is never distant from these songs. It is also a reflection of the soul music and albums that once were dominant in the 1970′s. The album consists of 10 songs, what used to be considered the ideal album length, but can you release a 10-song album in 2013? If you’re Timberlake, you can. If fans felt his FutureSex/LoveSounds had songs that were too lengthy, you may want to watch out for these tracks, as seven of the songs are over seven minutes in length. That might not be the path most artists are taking today, but I’m glad Timberlake feels confident enough to go at it with these lengths, and it works very well. The Wikipedia entry for the album has Timberlake quoted as saying “If Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin can do 10-minute songs and Queen can do 10-minute songs then why can’t we? We’ll figure out the radio edits later.” As someone who enjoys it when an artist explores music and themselves with a long song, this is truly ear candy.
===end swipe===

For the remainder of my review, click here:
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2786477, They don't hear you though
Posted by OldPro, Wed Mar-13-13 11:53 AM
smh

their loss
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2786487, Dope review my nigga. nm
Posted by bwood, Wed Mar-13-13 12:11 PM
2786507, eff the hate. this^right here.
Posted by al_sharp, Wed Mar-13-13 01:09 PM

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2786530, solid
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Wed Mar-13-13 01:50 PM
>==begin swipe==
>Like many, I’m someone who looked forward to hearing what
>Justin Timberlake would be doing with his third album. It has
>been almost seven years since his last release, during a
>period in the music industry where if you don’t have new music
>every three months, you’re considered a has-been. Arguably,
>Timberlake has the luxuries of not having to bow down to the
>industry at all, but there comes a time when the demand is
>great, be it from the public or your own. Timberlake has
>always been someone, at least from interviews, who loves
>music. He had wondered why MTV doesn’t cater to more music at
>a time when they have become everything but music, to no
>avail. With the release of “Suit & Tie” as a first single, the
>reception from it was enough to reveal what everyone had
>already known: don’t call it a comeback, he’s been here for
>years.
>
>The 20/20 Experience (RCA) is a unique album for a number of
>reasons. It is very much a pop album, but its roots are very
>much in soul and that soulful touch is never distant from
>these songs. It is also a reflection of the soul music and
>albums that once were dominant in the 1970′s. The album
>consists of 10 songs, what used to be considered the ideal
>album length, but can you release a 10-song album in 2013? If
>you’re Timberlake, you can. If fans felt his
>FutureSex/LoveSounds had songs that were too lengthy, you may
>want to watch out for these tracks, as seven of the songs are
>over seven minutes in length. That might not be the path most
>artists are taking today, but I’m glad Timberlake feels
>confident enough to go at it with these lengths, and it works
>very well. The Wikipedia entry for the album has Timberlake
>quoted as saying “If Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin can do
>10-minute songs and Queen can do 10-minute songs then why
>can’t we? We’ll figure out the radio edits later.” As someone
>who enjoys it when an artist explores music and themselves
>with a long song, this is truly ear candy.
>===end swipe===
>
>For the remainder of my review, click here:
>http://bit.ly/Y9JHgI
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>THE HOME OF BOOK-NESS:
>http://www.thisisbooksmusic.com/
>http://twitter.com/thisisjohnbook
>http://www.facebook.com/book1
>
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2786598, Hmmm.....
Posted by murph71, Wed Mar-13-13 03:31 PM



Cool write-up...No bullshit...That's straight to the point...
2786672, Read the entire review. Excellent as always.
Posted by cbk, Wed Mar-13-13 06:11 PM
2786690, Review was on point
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Wed Mar-13-13 07:00 PM
2786702, dude never respected the real Michael Jackson and settles
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Mar-13-13 07:36 PM
for a Pat Boone version. Timberlake sucks and hearing old school fellow Negroes sing his praises in here got me worried big time.

this turkey is D.W.Griffith big time
2786826, RE: dude never respected the real Michael Jackson and settles
Posted by murph71, Thu Mar-14-13 08:45 AM
>for a Pat Boone version. Timberlake sucks and hearing old
>school fellow Negroes sing his praises in here got me worried
> big time.
>
>this turkey is D.W.Griffith big time



lol......

As in, what else^^^^would you expect?...Keep giving every self-respecting Race Man a bad name, homie....
2786910, you are at Jive turkey who doesn't like Individuality
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Mar-14-13 01:41 PM
period and it shows. get your head outta Quincy Jones's Hind Parts homie and if you don't agree with me you ain't gotta speak on everything.
2786956, RE: you are at Jive turkey who doesn't like Individuality
Posted by murph71, Thu Mar-14-13 02:30 PM
>period and it shows. get your head outta Quincy Jones's Hind
>Parts homie and if you don't agree with me you ain't gotta
>speak on everything.


U not getting it....I don't disagree with anyone who doesn't like the white boy's music...U can shit on his music until the cows come home...

I'm shitting on YOUR warped reasons for your dismissal of Timberlake...

It's quite lazy...U should should just critique the music like most heads are doing...Instead u bring in shit that has nothing to do with the music...

And u should be the last person to tell a person where they shouldn't post given your wacked-out, obsessive track record...

Glass houses, homie...
2786978, RE: you are at Jive turkey who doesn't like Individuality
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Mar-14-13 02:48 PM
marginal singer

generic songwriting

and he hasn't evolved as a artist at all.

he hasn't showed any artistic growth at all in a decade plus IMO

and he is forever a broke Michael Jackson knock off.

you happy now???

what part of Marginal and Low Budget despite having a polished product around him you don't get?
2786878, I think R. Kelly could pull off a very similar album
Posted by johnbook, Thu Mar-14-13 11:50 AM
Someone on Twitter had asked me that, and I said if Kelly wanted to, he would do it without a problem. But would you call that theft or pulling a "Pat Boone", or did you only say that because Timberlake is white and can be a thief who executes well?


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2786911, you don't like R.Kelly or Michael Jackson and it shows
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Mar-14-13 01:45 PM
i mean Timberlake ain't never done anything half as memorabble as no R.Kelly and Kellz has made classic albums.

and I already told you that TImberlake ain't nothing but a Broke puppet string of Pop Broke Michael Jackson.

you fall for that Okey doke.

when Justin Timberlake can get to George Michael Level wake me up.

i gotta show you how to really write a review on Justin Timberlake, because all that mess you typing ain't about him.

Timberlake don't believe them lies his own self. he knows he ain't got the goods despite the complextion for the protection and alot of Grinning Negroes who allow him and His Pat Boone ways.
2787607, It shows? Oh really?
Posted by johnbook, Sat Mar-16-13 02:11 PM
I respect Michael Jackson's music. I just don't gloat about it.


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2787667, nobody who grew up on no Michael Jackson
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Sat Mar-16-13 10:01 PM
is going to write them lies in that review you did, Justin timberlake doesn't believe the half of what you wrote.

you are a smart dude and knowledgeable, however that stuff you wrote don't apply to that turkeys,
2787695, I am not aware that Timberlake has read anything I've written
Posted by johnbook, Sun Mar-17-13 01:19 AM
Also... lies? I believe I gave my opinion in what I listened to, and I did not make anything up. I will quote myself:
"In the second half of the song, the track seems to go into a transformation (similar to a DJ segueway) between Earth, Wind & Fire’s “Runnin” and Michael Jackson’s “Don’t Stop Til You Get Enough”, as if he’s exploring the beauty of that period in music between 1977 and 1979."

That is not a lie, I wasn't making something up for the sake of being read. This is what I hear, this is how I felt, I caught the Brazilian influence immediately. I'm hearing MJ's transformation from what he was before to what he became with OFF THE WALL, and I'm talking musically. When I write, I want to be able to convey my feelings from the music to those who do read me. I don't write for a specific audience, even though I'm sure I may go over people's heads if I make a reference that isn't a casual one. I write for all, and I feel my review wasn't any different from any of my other reviews, other than length.

If you feel that there was a lie or lies were told, I cannot change your mind. What I hear on this album is a sense of craft, not unlike OFF THE WALL, which I will always say is one of the best albums ever made. In fact, I've never not said this, and that's not a lie. It's an opinion, and if my opinions are lies because they are not true facts, that's fine. Again, I cannot change your view. However, you read my review and I thank you for that sir.





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2787699, thing is Man
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Sun Mar-17-13 01:52 AM
you stepped toward my door, because that particular passage you eluded to MJ off the wall esque and that's what i've been saying about timberfake's whole solo career he has never stopped trying to get that spot.

however he doesn't have the chops to pull it off, yet he tries real hard. somewhere Rasheed Wallace is saying about Justin TImberlake he tries real hard, and he is a marginal talent at best,

i hear all kinds of late 70's and early 80's influences in his work and yet he just rides them, however he never takes it into his own, big difference.

all i said is you wrote about a broke MJ like was doing something special and if case you didn't notice its split and most folks at best think he is alright, however the musical ideas and what is presented don't mash man.

i got respect for you as a writer however timberlake ain't that deep and he doesn't know how to handle a balanced out project. its just not in him.
2786712, Terrific review.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Mar-13-13 08:16 PM
2787655, Thank you, sir n/m
Posted by johnbook, Sat Mar-16-13 08:21 PM

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2786479, It's cool, but I don't hear too many tracks I will go back to years from now
Posted by CMcMurtry, Wed Mar-13-13 11:55 AM
Where as each of the last two JT albums had a handful of songs I STILL play.

I dig the overall vibe, but it just ain't for me.
2786516, of course not
Posted by Eph, Wed Mar-13-13 01:23 PM
jt albums age like fruit.

2786852, I don't feel that way
Posted by CMcMurtry, Thu Mar-14-13 10:26 AM
As I said in my initial post, each of the last two have a good five or six songs I still listen to on the regular. My early impressions of this new album have me feeling like there are few, if any, I will do that for.

Not wack though. Just kinda there, which isn't gonna fly in a time when so many new voices are running R&B.
2786480, Tunnel Vision is sick
Posted by Vizionz28, Wed Mar-13-13 11:56 AM
2786494, stepping out on the plank
Posted by forgivenphoenix, Wed Mar-13-13 12:27 PM
am i the only one who didn't like the album?

i was checking out the album with my sister eating dinner on Monday when it leaked and outside of Suit and Tie, none of the songs really stood out to me. i'm not a fan of JT outside of his singles or really a fan of Tim's work with him so it could just be that this album isn't for me. but between Justin's voice (which is nice) and Tim's beats (which don't really strike a chord with me) I just felt, 'meh'.

i guess Justin is sticking to his guns of actively borrowing from his influences. (there's an interview of him outright saying he wrote alot of the album thinking of his influences.) there's a Prince song, a Stevie song, the last cut sounds like a Drake or Frank Ocean cut.

i'm sure it'll rack up alot of listens, but i just wasn't excited by any of the album.

also, is there really another single on this album besides Suit & Tie?
2786761, RE: stepping out on the plank
Posted by kwemos, Wed Mar-13-13 10:51 PM
I'm certain you aren't the only one who didn't like the album.
2786891, If you didn't like it that's cool.
Posted by bwood, Thu Mar-14-13 12:25 PM
Not everyone is gonna like everything. And I get it. Shit's not for everyone.
2786515, Strawberry Bubblegum is crack. Just bounces along lovely
Posted by kwez, Wed Mar-13-13 01:22 PM

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2786536, Didn't Pat Boone do this already. Who stole the soul?
Posted by 81 DUN, Wed Mar-13-13 01:56 PM
If this is what passes as quality music nowadays we're fucked.
2786540, P.S. timberland stop making music you wack.
Posted by 81 DUN, Wed Mar-13-13 01:58 PM
2786663, This album tries to be something it's not
Posted by final_prospect82, Wed Mar-13-13 05:34 PM
He wants to create an album full of pop songs that are 7+ mins and that's very hard to do.

He could get away with it with 2-3 songs.

The change ups seemed so pointless and tired. I had the same feeling listening to Watch the Throne

FS/LS was more successful at what he was trying to do than this effort. Although to be fair, FS/LS had to grow on me
2786668, but he did it
Posted by Cynthia_Rose, Wed Mar-13-13 05:57 PM
>He wants to create an album full of pop songs that are 7+
>mins and that's very hard to do.
>
>He could get away with it with 2-3 songs.
>
>The change ups seemed so pointless and tired. I had the same
>feeling listening to Watch the Throne
>
>FS/LS was more successful at what he was trying to do than
>this effort. Although to be fair, FS/LS had to grow on me
2786812, Fauntleroy laughing to the bank.
Posted by Heinz, Thu Mar-14-13 06:44 AM
2786901, lyric wise he was on a Cocaine 80s steez
Posted by Ray_Snill, Thu Mar-14-13 01:21 PM
yet some people will praise C80s and then crap on JT. Fauntleroy pulling the strings on both



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2786972, I don't see it that way at all fam
Posted by CMcMurtry, Thu Mar-14-13 02:45 PM
Lyrically speaking, Cocaine 80s is a hard R. This is PG-13 at worst.
2787641, c'mon now
Posted by fontgangsta, Sat Mar-16-13 06:36 PM
yes, coke80 is more explicit
but if you dont hear the same voice behind both projects, you're not really listening.
2787715, And Fauntleroy's voice is better, imo
Posted by Ashley Ayers, Sun Mar-17-13 05:10 AM
2786864, Pusher Love Girl sounded better live.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Thu Mar-14-13 11:22 AM
The background vocals at the Grammy and Fallon performance really come out and compliment JT's voice. The studio version seems sterile and slightly robotic.
2786877, Every jam I've heard him perform sounds better live
Posted by CaptNish, Thu Mar-14-13 11:47 AM
I hope he drops a live album following this tour, because I haven't heard a live song yet that isn't better than the album cuts.
2787646, RE: Every jam I've heard him perform sounds better live
Posted by Taye DiggumSmacks, Sat Mar-16-13 07:12 PM
Most definitely. It's what's been frustrating me about the album. The more organic sound of the live performances gives the songs more character.
2786882, Pusher love girl = FLAMES
Posted by El_essence, Thu Mar-14-13 11:58 AM
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2786885, I was hoping Tim was gonna blow minds on some last gasp ish
Posted by OKdamn, Thu Mar-14-13 12:07 PM
Strawberry is impressive, but IM disappointed that Timbo is now a 2-3 trick pony. Same ol same ol IMO. Still a decent album anyway..
2786938, honestly, i just want SINGLE EDITS for every track on this album
Posted by fontgangsta, Thu Mar-14-13 02:12 PM
i really dont need these 3-4 min variations on a theme at the end of every song.
as i stated above, its just self-indulgent. it really doesn't serve the album at all.
everything here that's not extraneous is fantastic, but the more i listen, theres a lot of fat to trim.
2786958, RE: honestly, i just want SINGLE EDITS for every track on this album
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Thu Mar-14-13 02:32 PM
this is honest criticism without making race a factor. I can dig that.
I was thinking the same thing about them doing that on every track. It
was special on the previous album because it was done once or twice.
Here, it does get kind of tired using the same formula on the majority
of tracks. I still dig the album though. Completely agree with what you
said as well.
2786971, I love the album and still agree with this.
Posted by CaptNish, Thu Mar-14-13 02:43 PM
If he did this stuff live, I'd have no problem with it. If his band on stage wants to flip the songs and jam it out, cool. But on the disc, it's just too much. Some songs it definitely works and is necessary. The others, it seems forced.
2787661, i like it
Posted by xangeluvr, Sat Mar-16-13 09:10 PM
so far i find myself just grooving with all the tracks including the switch ups. of course, there will probably come a time when i edit the tracks myself and separate the main track from the switches at the end. i did the same for the last album.

>i really dont need these 3-4 min variations on a theme at the
>end of every song.
>as i stated above, its just self-indulgent. it really doesn't
>serve the album at all.
>everything here that's not extraneous is fantastic, but the
>more i listen, theres a lot of fat to trim.
2787599, That boy good though. Strawberry Bubblegum live is dope
Posted by kwez, Sat Mar-16-13 01:23 PM
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2787775, My take on the album is ...
Posted by QBoogie, Sun Mar-17-13 01:09 PM
... Justin grew up, is in love with Jessica Biel (she's the only person I can imagine he's directing these songs to, possibly because I know of their public relationshiop) & Timbo persuaded him to not go the "whats hot on the radio route", and said lets do something more traditional since no one is expecting that from us, and voila.

The album isn't mind boggling like I feel the last one was, hell that shit fucked me up and blew out a speaker (only two people blew out my speakers since I jammed them hoard as fuq one is Timbo and the other Dilla), but this shit here is more like throw on and chill to. It's not a masterpiece per say but just good music. I'd rather listen to this album ANY day over that album Frank Ocean dropped or the Weekend guy. I still think Miguels Kaleidescope Dream is a notch above this album.

Overall, I'm just glad it got people talking about R&B music again since that genre been stagnant as fuck. Hell they're even talking about it in GD so kudos on that front.
2788590, I also want to add that if Toro Y Moi had made this album ...
Posted by QBoogie, Tue Mar-19-13 03:35 PM
... the internet would be going NUTS ! Just saying though.
2787981, blah blahs.
Posted by Nodima, Sun Mar-17-13 11:35 PM
I'm drunk, so you'll forgive me as I just go on a bit of rant about this album. I put in a bid for review and missed the lottery, so my words don't have any official merit. Just gonna blog witch'yall. I don't think that slang has a fancy format yet. Anyway, dude, "Pusher Lover Girl". Justin did that song at the Grammies, and from that moment on I was all "gimmie this album, gimmie give me gimmie this album." I didn't get the hate for "Suit & Tie"; I may never. I do agree with the now-infamous ?uest post ("if you gonna go 40.....go 40/40 with it"); if I felt like expanding to blog world, I'd have kept that nugget to myself. But it was public; mad will always me made.

How do I feel about Justin Timberlake? Let's rewind to 2001, 2002. Either "Girlfriend" or "Gone" is on Total Request Live (I called this Total Recall at first - fucking Colin Farrell), and if I'm not making out with the girl that's watching these shows then she's remarking intensely about how much Justin Timberlake stands out. Remember that this was a time when N*SYNC and Backstreet Boys were equally titanic, but something about N*SYNC's largess seemed more doomed to fail. Insiders felt JC Chasez was really in charge, women in for a shock that they were attracted to homos found solace in Lance Bass. Timberlake was for the wusses that didn't know better.

Luckily for perhaps everyone, Timberlake had the narrative. Britney Spears was his girl, perhaps and probably from as far back as the Mickey Mouse days. You're my generation and you have to care; you're the generation above, you're seeking reasons why. Releasing "Cry Me a River" as his solo debut solidified everything folks were afraid of: allow Timberlake control of his public identity, he might show some promise. Justified couldn't help but be the album we were all scared of at the height of boy band mania, the thing that proved at least one of these boy band de facto leaders was worth it.

The wild thing about growing up, that music helps to emphasize, is losing touch. At 24 I already feel an active struggle against it, desperate (and willing, and able) to enjoy new things because if I started falling back on nostalgia I'd feel a little incomplete. Maybe it's the way Justin's given himself to us in the decade since N*SYNC's dissolution, but I almost feel weird about him releasing an album now. I think this is what quite a few other writers are struggling with. Timberlake - and, perhaps to an even greater extent, Timbaland - feel like relics of a bygone era. I'm not sure what it is for them; for me, it's junior year of high school being the year of "My Love" and "What You Know" and middle school being defined by JT and Britney singles.

Just feeling like relics isn't the only cause for concern with 20/20 Experience, though. I'll laud both...at this point, all three of Justin's solo LPs at any opportunity, but none are without their faults. "Don't Hold the Wall" might pop up nearly 20 minutes into the LP proper, but truthfully it's just the third track and couldn't work much more efficiently as a momentum be -header if it tried. marsbars said it best (to stroke his ego, it's also partially why I backed away from submitting a black market review and hoping for the best): there are moments I'm unconvinced need to exist.

The difference is, they come in different spurts for me. "Don't Hold the Wall" is so worthless until it's second half kicks in, when it shifts from turgid late-70s disco jam to bonafied modern day shut the fuck up and dance anthem. But all that Timbaland-ing is a bit much, or obnoxious. It's not a bummer, but it's a bummer. Before I get to the real avalanches (aka: the pop culture controversies) let me talk about what I love. "Pusher Lover Girl" - studio, live or not, what criticisms can I take back to make you love me? "Strawberry Bubblegum", what do you ask of me? "Suit & Tie", what could I give you to remove a Jay-Z verse and beat I don't hate but have no particular opinion about?

And that's about it. For how interested I've been in this album, and listening to it, I have to admit that taken as a division of labor 20/20 Experience isn't the album your brain prepared you for. Very little of this album actually earns what it's asking for, and I don't really mean to take much away from Justin and Tim as I say that. This retro thing has been fetishized for a few years now and it's really no surprise that mainstream acts start to dig into what the scenes in L.A. and the midwestern underground are getting at, but due to rarity you hear a JT/TM collaboration is happening, sometimes you expect the next step.

That said, if this isn't a next step for pop "R&B" in any way it certainly paves the way for this generation's power artists to stop giving a fuck and indulge their favoritism. For example, I'll hate on "Chop Me Up" as long as I'm allowed but on some level I'll always appreciate a Memphis native putting such fucking idiots on his album just because they're arguably more important than he is to local tradition. Justin's been anything but an idiot musically since his segregation; picking and choosing battles.

Anyway, for all the melodic and musical things that I love about this album, if it weren't a huge pop release there'd be some factors I'd weigh more heavily on. For example, "Tunnel Vision" is a killer production but it's really, really stupid from a words point of view. So is "Mirrors". And these are two of the album's so-called definitive songs. Taking after the shifty transition between "Tunnel Vision"'s two parts (an easy criticism, were you a music/pop major, might be the subtle laziness of these "halves"), "Mirror" is equally a song that goes on forever merely because Justin Timberlake + Timbaland makes the song more interesting than Trey Songz + Cool & Dre. Both of these often-lauded songs (from what I've seen) are pretty fair otherwise.

In fact, lyricism is a problem all throughout the album. "Spaceship Coupe" is a song filled with words that sound good mainly because they're contained by the same verse or chorus; maybe I'd buy Justin's shot at Surrounded by Idiots/Princeism a little more if the words were better, but I already buy them quite a bit regardless. I'm just saying that song is a joke that happens to work. That whole giggling baby at the end of the track; where's Ginuwine?

What's probably hardest about 20/20 Experience is that it's ultimately very professional. Unlike when Justin was a scion of pop, he's now simply a filter. Timbaland too. Some people feel weird about that, and it's easy to. After all, the "throwback sound" has been down for a minute now (give or take six years) and this duo (trio, forgive me Jerome) can't help but be linked to that. 20/20 Experience is anything but an innovator's haven. Despite pretensions otherwise, 20/20 Experience is mostly the more solid but less zeitgeisty release it was always destined to be.

Possible this is the most satisfying product Timberlake has and will ever put his name on. Possible we'll never be able to accept it that way. Anyway, this turned out to be a drunken ramble that made sense. I was hoping for The Glow, Pt. 2 zaniness. I suppose this release just doesn't inspire that, so, one more 'gain: I really don't care for "Tunnel Vision" or "Mirrors" much at all. The latter sounds like a Mario song that missed the boat. I don't want to press any more keys. Perhaps I've already pressed more than enough.


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2787984, great read
Posted by Phreak, Sun Mar-17-13 11:52 PM
2787986, is that you Lou Pearlman?
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Mon Mar-18-13 12:21 AM
i mean i laughed and real hard, all them words over timberflake. lawd hav mercy timberlake got turkeys writing like William Shakesphere Ghost is paying them for a story and depth.

2788043, lol, I just write as the album's going
Posted by Nodima, Mon Mar-18-13 10:08 AM
alcohol + 70 minute album turned out to be a lot of words this time.


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2787988, As a person who is waiting for release date.
Posted by phemom, Mon Mar-18-13 12:25 AM
This album must be something to recieve so many long-winded reviews. I'm interested to hear the length song these records...cause personally I would rather hear a long LP than a 38 minute one, but I'm prolly in the minority.
2788000, I finally heard it....
Posted by denny, Mon Mar-18-13 02:15 AM
I think it's incredible. Incredibly ambitious and original. The sonics are outstanding. Not much in terms of songwriting though. It's a series of jams and the songs have a progressive structure instead of a songwriting format. Not much hummable on there....but the focus on the sounds is enough to make me love it. I was pretty shocked when I first sat down to listen to the whole thing. It's really quite an endeavor. They spent alot of time on this.
2787998, JT Is the Chipotle of R&B/soul music
Posted by TRENDone, Mon Mar-18-13 02:09 AM
If mexican food = soul music. I'll fuck with Chipotle...but there are way better, cheaper options.

I mean...this guy really has an afrobeat record on 20/20. Dude is blessed that Jay-Z and Timbaland fuck with him.
2788602, Has anyone called Mayer Hawthorne yet???
Posted by revolution75, Tue Mar-19-13 03:55 PM
2790709, RE: Has anyone called Mayer Hawthorne yet???
Posted by DredScott, Tue Mar-26-13 09:21 PM
i doubt he cares...but on the real i'll take "do it" off his top secret ain't nobody supposed to know about it ep with jake one over ANY song on JT's album and i like JT's album.

that's how dope "do it" is...
2788662, a week in.. I take what I said about Tim back...he showed his back
Posted by OKdamn, Tue Mar-19-13 08:37 PM
on this. Spaceship Coupe is a Ginuwine classic that shoulda been on the fully Tim produced follow up to 100%..
2790780, It is also...
Posted by jimaveli, Wed Mar-27-13 09:21 AM
>on this. Spaceship Coupe is a Ginuwine classic that shoulda
>been on the fully Tim produced follow up to 100%..

the song that The Dream tries to make in honor of Jodeci on every album he drops.

Ginuwine...ahhh...I remember the story being that HE wanted to work with other producers. If that's the case, hindsight is 20/20, but dangit Gordon...waiting on Tank and Tyrese for a group album can't be as good as dropping 20/20 Experience...long ass songs be damned.

Jimaveli
2788694, "Few songs are dynamic enough to justify their length." - Andy Kellman
Posted by Eph, Tue Mar-19-13 10:58 PM
2790864, it's true, most of em sound like twelve-inch extended versions of songs
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Mar-27-13 12:29 PM
that aren't strong enough to be singles in the first place.

And the excursions don't really go anywhere interesting.

There's two good-to-great songs on here: Pusher Love Girl & Strawberry Bubblegum.

Suit & Tie actually sounds better in the context of the album, that's pretty good.

Let The Groove Get In is cool for a bit but basically ends up sounding like JT's version of doing MJ's 'Mama Say Mama Sa Mama Cu Sa' bit for five-and-a-half-minutes with no "Wanna Be Starting Something" around it.

The rest is pretty much forgettable.
2790875, bs becasue they have a distinct cut-off point
Posted by rdhull, Wed Mar-27-13 12:54 PM
where one can consider the extended portion a different song and click to the next if they want

which is bs anyways because there is noting wrong with these songs altogether

folks arent giving it time to become familiar with it
2788768, Excellent
Posted by Ishwip, Wed Mar-20-13 09:35 AM
As someone who almost always lets albums ride I don't mind the song-lengths at all, although I can definitely see it bothering others.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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2790705, RE: Justin Timberlake - Dress On
Posted by tapedeck, Tue Mar-26-13 09:00 PM
Sweeeeet.

Check out NEW Soul music at: www.myspace.com/starbeing

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
Donald Byrd-Ethiopian Knights
Gene Dunlap -IJTWIF
T.I.-TMHITH
The Whispers-Love For Love
LoKey-B2TH
2790714, this a really good album... not sure why anyone would be hatin
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Tue Mar-26-13 09:40 PM
if they've actually heard the album.

I dig the fact that there are longer songs on this ...giving you some extra groove...some extra beats ..... that's different than the mainstream norm doing that.

Timb is brining hot tracks...the songs are cool...

I like..

and I'm sure just like with his last one he'll bring the some heat with his band live when he performs them...

what more could you ask for.
2791014, RE: this a really good album... not sure why anyone would be hatin
Posted by tapedeck, Wed Mar-27-13 07:58 PM
I think some folks are listening to music on cheap equipment.

Check out NEW Soul music at: www.myspace.com/starbeing

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
Donald Byrd-Ethiopian Knights
Gene Dunlap -IJTWIF
T.I.-TMHITH
The Whispers-Love For Love
LoKey-B2TH
2790715, dont hold the wall
Posted by rdhull, Tue Mar-26-13 09:47 PM
2790774, Obsessed with this album.
Posted by BSharp, Wed Mar-27-13 08:44 AM
I can't stop listening.

My expectations were sky-high, and they were actually met.

Kudos to JT & Timbaland!
2790796, no comment on 980,000+ first week?
Posted by wrecknoble, Wed Mar-27-13 09:56 AM
he overshadowed the #2 for the week by 940,000
2790804, please lets not--enuff from the dipshits who are mad
Posted by rdhull, Wed Mar-27-13 10:30 AM
>he overshadowed the #2 for the week by 940,000
2790838, RE: no comment on 980,000+ first week?
Posted by tapedeck, Wed Mar-27-13 11:38 AM
Thats all. LOL. Damn! That's alot of units.

Check out NEW Soul music at: www.myspace.com/starbeing

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
Donald Byrd-Ethiopian Knights
Gene Dunlap -IJTWIF
T.I.-TMHITH
The Whispers-Love For Love
LoKey-B2TH
2790879, is that physical only or ...
Posted by QBoogie, Wed Mar-27-13 12:59 PM
digi and phyiscal?
2790889, that's from hits daily double.. and the official offical numbers
Posted by wrecknoble, Wed Mar-27-13 01:22 PM
should be out today, which i think will include all sources
2791026, the Illuminati is pushing this half baked turkey down our throat
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Mar-27-13 09:46 PM
he just ain't that good. timberfake got he complextion for the protection for the collection and the manipulation
2791030, RE: the Illuminati is pushing this half baked turkey down our throat
Posted by rdhull, Wed Mar-27-13 10:33 PM
>he just ain't that good. timberfake got he complextion for
>the protection for the collection and the manipulation


what about Timbaland
2791033, Timberbland is a Sellout turkey
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Mar-27-13 10:53 PM
he knows the game he gave Ginuwine the stuff and it was better almost 20 years back, folks in the Know, know that JC from N Synch was the cat doing on his solo album the stuff that went to Timberfake.


2791205, you talk very reckless
Posted by rdhull, Thu Mar-28-13 01:54 PM
>he knows the game he gave Ginuwine the stuff and it was
>better almost 20 years back, folks in the Know, know that JC
>from N Synch was the cat doing on his solo album the stuff
>that went to Timberfake.


what the hell did u just say? english please
2791207, you talk like a cheap rate broke Groupie
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Mar-28-13 02:04 PM
and I said that Timberland did his best stuff with Giuwine 20 years ago and timberlake gets the sloopy 2nds and 3rds, however its nothing special at all IMO.

i'll take Ginuwine over TImberlake and Ginuwine was a marginal singer at best, however still he had the wrong shade and we know the truth.
2791213, and you talk like u have aspergers...and?
Posted by rdhull, Thu Mar-28-13 02:15 PM
>and I said that Timberland did his best stuff with Giuwine
>20 years ago and timberlake gets the sloopy 2nds and 3rds,
>however its nothing special at all IMO.
>
>i'll take Ginuwine over TImberlake and Ginuwine was a
>marginal singer at best, however still he had the wrong shade
>and we know the truth.

youre kind of racist

his best stuff with Gin? thats debateable..at the very least it doesnt dismiss the stuff he and JT have done together

youre just extremely biased and prejudiced...which really amounts to your opinions not even being relevant or counting no matter how much u rant and rave about shit that doesnt flow your way

2791246, TURKEY BLACK FOLKS can't be racist
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Mar-28-13 03:10 PM
we don't own nothing or control things read what i said about timberlake.

just because you ride with Timberlake and your crew doesn't mean other folks have to do or think he is anything beyond being average.


this cat couldn't hold George Michael's left side of his face musically.

and i can name 99 other white boys off the dome that would run TImberlake back into the mickey Mouse club and make him sound like Howdy Doodie.

and Ginuwine and Tim did there thing and FYI that is the usual case because back when Tim was doing his thing he was mainly Hip hop and R&B it wasn't no one republic cross over love,etc..


typical when a Black act has a sound that is banging a white act gets it 5 years later and then its called a sandwich and its time to eat it as if it just came out that instant.

and by no means is Ginuwine more than a 3rd tier act his ownself, however ain't nothing that timberlake can do that Ginuwine ain't done better IMO

now go back to your cave turkey
2791094, RE: the Illuminati is pushing this half baked turkey down our throat
Posted by murph71, Thu Mar-28-13 08:35 AM
>he just ain't that good. timberfake got he complextion for
>the protection for the collection and the manipulation

Illuminati?

I'm ready to retire this word...People are overusing it...
2791122, he is overrated and his fans have ears, yeah i said it
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Mar-28-13 10:38 AM
and you can quote me on that. Timberfake didn't even have the best voice in stank. and yeah its Illuminati because the powers that be want this marginal turkey to blow up at all costs.

marginal singer

marginal actor

marginal entertainer on a whole

wick wack jive turkey

timberbland ain't doing nothing on the writing or production to take that turkeys limits anywhere
2791125, RE: he is overrated and his fans have ears, yeah i said it
Posted by murph71, Thu Mar-28-13 10:45 AM


U can say all that without resorting to lazy shit like Illuminati...

That's all I'm saying...

Seeing people tag everything they don't dig or can't understand as some part of a conspiracy is pretty weak...
2791199, RE: he is overrated and his fans have ears, yeah i said it
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Mar-28-13 01:45 PM
your so called counter argument is weak Homie. Timbefake is so genric and corny it hurts. if Timberfake was Black he would be in a direct to video movie with Marquez Houston and Omarion don't even front and yeah I'm saying Illuminati all the way. that doughboy is overrated.
2793821, solid album
Posted by Kosa12, Fri Apr-05-13 10:53 PM
mirrors is kinda corny though

i'd give it like a 7.5