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2771428, Lupe kicked off stage @ Obama inauguration concert Posted by spew120, Mon Jan-21-13 09:44 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/rapper-lupe-fiasco-bashes-obama-at-inauguration-concert-reportedly-forced-off-stage-due-to-dissatisfied-crowd/
My bet is that it was staged by Atlantic. This "inauguration event" definitely wasn't an "official" inauguration event. Those guys with ear pieces certainly were not secret service. It's just another publicity stunt (like that fake-as-fuck Free Lupe protest). Now Bill O'Reilly finally can say "Rappers hate Obama too" (check out Drudge Report if you think the Neo-Nazi conservatives aren't already saying that).
Thanks again Lupe!
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2771429, That being said, I agree with his sentiment (to an extent) Posted by spew120, Mon Jan-21-13 09:50 AM
I mean, fuck drone warfare, but Lupe has to find a better way of presenting this stuff, and quit it with the publicity stunts. Prefacing this kind of sentiment with Limbaugh is a racist, Beck is a racist works if people actually "hear" that part... but when Limbaugh and Beck are going to present this to their listeners and simply 'cut out' the racist parts, it just works as a weapon for the truly despicable.
Ugh.
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2771431, yep its gonna be very humorous... Posted by philpot, Mon Jan-21-13 09:55 AM
to watch ppl who profess to agree w/ the essence of Lupe's opinions/views contort their logic & words to shit on him
anyone who professes sympathy for what he did/believes will be dismissed as naive & clowned for daring to think this protest had any merit at all
par for the course
yall have fun
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2771439, RE: That being said, I agree with his sentiment (to an extent) Posted by spew120, Mon Jan-21-13 10:38 AM
>part... but when Limbaugh and Beck are going to present this >to their listeners and simply 'cut out' the racist parts, it >just works as a weapon for the truly despicable. >
Here's what I'm talking about: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/21/report-rapper-lupe-fiasco-thrown-offstage-at-inauguration-event-after-anti-obama-rant/
Not ONE mention of Lupe's message, EXCEPT that he's anti-Obama.
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2771551, The inauguration was a publicity stunt in and of itself. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:33 PM
Its a dog and pony show, is wasteful and ostentatious.
Thought this was common knowledge.
But don't let the facts get in the way of non-sensical Lupe bashing, as this is the Lesson, but just wanted to point that out.
>I mean, fuck drone warfare, but Lupe has to find a better way >of presenting this stuff, and quit it with the publicity >stunts. Prefacing this kind of sentiment with Limbaugh is a >racist, Beck is a racist works if people actually "hear" that >part... but when Limbaugh and Beck are going to present this >to their listeners and simply 'cut out' the racist parts, it >just works as a weapon for the truly despicable. > >Ugh.
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2773300, smh - which is precisely why that wasn't the time for Lupe to go Posted by vee-lover, Mon Jan-28-13 12:07 AM
on his tirade because whatever his issue is w/Obama and his administration concerning foreign policy, the ish, whether rightly or wrongly, falls on deaf ears because of the manner inwhich he chose to bring attention to it.
Memo to Lupe: next time you're trying to raise public awareness abt un manned drone attacks or the rate of gun violence in Chicago or any other political/social issue that stokes your ire, it would behoove you to not do so at an event where 99.99999% of the ppl there are there to celebrate the nation's 1st African-American president being re-elected and not to see nor hear you do your self righteous activist impression. (It'd be the equivalent to a dude going to a strip club criticizing the men there for objectifying women)
If Lupe is truly serious abt trying to bring attention to drone strikes, for instance, then how abt *write* a researched/well thought out and detailed op-ed piece for the Huffington Post...oh, and he should include what does he suggest be the alternative to drone air strikes.
All this did was get him a one day news story.
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2773302, That might be the least intelligent thing I've ever read. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-28-13 12:17 AM
I'm 60/40 on you being serious (40% of me thinks/hopes you're being sarcastic)
>If Lupe is truly serious abt trying to bring attention to >drone strikes, for instance, then how abt *write* a >researched/well thought out and detailed op-ed piece for the >Huffington Post...oh, and he should include what does he >suggest be the alternative to drone air strikes.
So your alternative/solution is for Lupe to write an op-ed piece to one of the most popular liberal internet news sites, one that already routinely explores the drone issue?
That's your solution? That would be more impactful than what he did?
So instead of bringing attention to it during an event when people aren't thinking about it, write to a website where everyone is already writing and thinking about it?
As to alternatives to drones -- do you read, at all? Even a little bit?
Last question:
Are you actually this stupid or are you joking/being sarcastic?
If you are being serious, I'll honestly consider not posting on this site anymore, because I don't really want to associate with people like you, and I mean that in the nicest way possible.
If you're joking, you can clown me, because I took you seriously. Good shit.
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2773313, I take that as a compliment considering some of the things you Posted by vee-lover, Mon Jan-28-13 12:59 AM
You pass off as "intelligent" but that's neither here nor there
>I'm 60/40 on you being serious (40% of me thinks/hopes >you're being sarcastic) > >>If Lupe is truly serious abt trying to bring attention to >>drone strikes, for instance, then how abt *write* a >>researched/well thought out and detailed op-ed piece for the >>Huffington Post...oh, and he should include what does he >>suggest be the alternative to drone air strikes. > >So your alternative/solution is for Lupe to write an op-ed >piece to one of the most popular liberal internet news sites, >one already routinely explores the drone issue?
Yeah, cuz lord knows another article on the subject is a waste of time smh
> >That's your solution? That would be more impactful than >what he ko instead of bringing attention to it during an >event when people aren't thinking about it, write >to a website where everyone is already writing and >thinking about it?
It doesn't have to be the HP, dumbass, it could be the drudge report or sohh for that matter, the point is writing a substantive article on the topic goes much further than a 5 minute tirade because what Lupe did had no lasting impact on anyone whatsoever
>As to alternatives to drones -- do you read, at all? >Even a little bit?
Yes, but more importantly I know how to think and reason and I have sense enough to know, unlike you apparently, that what Lupe did seemed more self serving vs actually bringing awareness to the issue (just look at the responses in this post and other blog/news sites) > > > >Last question: > >Are you actually this stupid or are you joking/being >sarcastic?
A little of both
>If you are being serious, I'll honestly consider not posting >on this site anymore, because I don't really want to >associate with people like you, and I mean that in the nicest > >way possible.
Mofo, we are on a message board...ain't no associating to begin with and 2ndly, you would be lucky enough to know a dude like me if we were associates.
> >If you're joking, you can clown me, because I took you >seriously. Good shit.
Oh, I clown you anyway just for GP > >---------------------------- > >Young Broadway Star Urgently Needs a Bone Marrow Donor. Is it >you? http://MatchShannon.com/ > > > > > > > >O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain" > > > > >"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..." > >(C)Keith Murray, "
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2773341, I'm gonna level with you, try to be nice Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-28-13 09:05 AM
>It doesn't have to be the HP, dumbass, it could be the drudge >report or sohh for that matter, the point is writing a >substantive article on the topic goes much further than a 5 >minute tirade because what Lupe did had no lasting impact on >anyone whatsoever
No "substantive article" on drones is worth a damn, like, at all. The academics, former intelligence officers, diplomats, and legal scholars have beaten it to absolute death. Not dissimilar to Abu Ghraib or Gitmo. Lupe very well may write on the issue (and good for him if he does), but the drone issue needs more than op-eds read and written by the same people.
Ironically, what the anti-drone movement specifically lacks is public disobedience, youthful exuberance, grassroots activism and anger emanating from young Americans and other members of Obama's core constituency.
Black Americans, for example, are dead silent on drones, because we're still in the "don't criticize the president" phase (and will probably be there for the remainder of BHO's presidency)
Lupe is one of the few celebrity progressives who has been consistent in his critiques of BHO. If you read them, they are actually quite sound and date back to the democratic primary.
As for utility and effectiveness: when you've solved the question about "what works" in terms of activism, you'll have solved a question that's thousands of years old. Nobody really knows "what works." Public disobedience often does work. Sometimes journalism works. Sometimes working through the legal system works.
Apparently the Lesson has transformed into an activist-scholar think tank, who knows how to effectively address the drone warfare issue.
Lupe took the stance of being a popular rapper, and so he'd use his fame to bring attention to the issue in a setting that would surprise and unnerve people (which is exactly what civil disobedience has aimed to do for thousands of years).
His actions actually make perfect sense.
The problem is, The Lesson doesn't like Lupe for some magical, make-believe reasons. And you'll invent even more magical, make-believe reasons to criticize him. Its stupid and the Lesson should be ashamed of itself.
>Yes, but more importantly I know how to think and reason and I >have sense enough to know, unlike you apparently, that what >Lupe did seemed more self serving vs actually bringing >awareness to the issue (just look at the responses in this >post and other blog/news sites)
"Self serving"
You sound like old people talking about Vietnam protestors.
That is literally what they said.
And all C.D. is "self-serving" in some regard. Because all civil disobedience brings attention to the protestor, as a way to bring attention to the issue.
That people are talking about Lupe at all qualifies as a "win" for drone discourse.
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2771433, I think its a stunt to by everyone Posted by Menphyel7, Mon Jan-21-13 09:59 AM
the promoters and everyone was in on it...this getting him pub like crazy.
I mean who books lupe to a event like this...would you book Ted Nudgent to an event like this it don't make sense.
This has us talkin about Lupe when folks wasn't talkin about that album.
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2771436, lol at the Ted Nugent comparison Posted by spew120, Mon Jan-21-13 10:12 AM
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2771545, Ted Nugent is way less inflammatory than Lupe Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:15 PM
Nugent probably thinks Drone Strikes are awesome, which they are
Lupe hates our freedom
>the promoters and everyone was in on it...this getting him >pub like crazy. > >I mean who books lupe to a event like this...would you book >Ted Nudgent to an event like this it don't make sense. > >This has us talkin about Lupe when folks wasn't talkin about >that album.
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2771440, a stunt, huh? Posted by SoWhat, Mon Jan-21-13 10:38 AM
oh.
hmmmm....
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2771441, You think it's not? Posted by spew120, Mon Jan-21-13 10:41 AM
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2771443, i have 0 idea. Posted by SoWhat, Mon Jan-21-13 10:44 AM
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2771468, He did announce two days ago that ... Posted by Deluge, Mon Jan-21-13 12:23 PM
F&L2 wasn't being released this year, and nobody seemingly cared. I wouldn't say it's staged by Atlantic however, I don't know why people always think that these label employees are that creative.
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2771513, RE: He did announce two days ago that ... Posted by dundee, Mon Jan-21-13 05:05 PM
>F&L2 wasn't being released this year, and nobody seemingly >cared. >I wouldn't say it's staged by Atlantic however, I don't know >why people always think that these label employees are that >creative.
I agree with you lol
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2771574, Its Lupe. The Lesson will hate on him for saving a starving child. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 08:16 PM
Lesson be like:
"Fuck Lupe! He's not as smart as he thinks he is"
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2771548, The gay Cuban inaugural poet was a stunt. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:28 PM
As is the entire inauguration ceremony.
But this is the Lesson: its always worse when Lupe does it.
Y'all have to keep reminding me. That I think for myself sometimes gets in the way, keep a nigga in check, yo.
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2771693, how to get O_E's goat: Posted by SoWhat, Tue Jan-22-13 07:05 AM
1. shit on Lupe.
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2771791, Nah, just pointing out that the gay Cuban poet was a stunt Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-22-13 03:16 PM
And how unintelligent you all sound for crying about how Lupe was stunting for attention at an even that is 100% about attention-whoring
Its hilariously ironic, in fact
Its okay for politicians to engage in dumbass, wasteful dog and pony shows
Its wrong for Lupe to express how he feels about the president in public
I'm literally crying in laughter
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2771842, Please quote a reply where I 'cry' about the stunt. Posted by SoWhat, Tue Jan-22-13 07:05 PM
I'll wait.
Meanwhile you're up in here throwing a Lupe-like tantrum and damn near foaming at the mouth bc ppl are criticizing The Loop. Your goat is totally gone. It's hilarious watching you twist yourself in knots like this.
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2771461, he's super dope Posted by Guinness, Mon Jan-21-13 12:02 PM
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2771505, RE: He's ON super dope. Posted by Austin, Mon Jan-21-13 04:33 PM
~Austin
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2771546, He's not nearly as dope as drone strikes are, though. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:17 PM
I mean, he can obviously rap, but A$AP is better because he acknowledges that Drone Strikes are the fucking Shinzit
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2771471, Lupe is a lame that can rap, just like the Game is lame. Posted by SliceTwice, Mon Jan-21-13 12:45 PM
substantively he's not saying anything close to new or groundbreaking, or doing anything in his music that does so either..
Boo this man
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2771555, Seriously, dozens of rappers are openly anti-drones Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:36 PM
Nothing original about that opinion, at all.
Young African-Americans from inner-city Chicago who are openly critical of President Obama's foreign policy are all over the place, making noise in the media. Even rappers -- everyone knows that "Fucking Problem" is a anti-drone warfare message when you play it backwards on the first day of Ramadan.
He's just a drop in the bucket.
>substantively he's not saying anything close to new or >groundbreaking, or doing anything in his music that does so >either.. > >Boo this man
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2773910, why does important truth have to be new or ground breaking? Posted by Jon, Tue Jan-29-13 10:42 PM
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2773915, The Lesson wants Lupe to author a new paradigm for US foreign policy Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-29-13 11:13 PM
If he doesn't do that, he's "comically misinformed," "pretentious," or "self-serving."
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2774511, lol exactly Posted by Jon, Thu Jan-31-13 09:46 PM
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2771476, Good. Posted by Airbreed, Mon Jan-21-13 01:23 PM
his antics are ridiculous.
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2771477, Lupe did something... Posted by G_The_SP, Mon Jan-21-13 01:25 PM
...that most people on these boards don't have the courage or good sense to do. I haven't seen this much suppression of dissent since Bush- kinda scary huh?
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2771478, I hardly consider what he did, courage. Posted by Airbreed, Mon Jan-21-13 01:26 PM
>...that most people on these boards don't have the courage or >good sense to do.
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2771480, more courageous than wagging the shame finger on okp Posted by philpot, Mon Jan-21-13 01:37 PM
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2771486, RE: more courageous than wagging the shame finger on okp Posted by spew120, Mon Jan-21-13 02:02 PM
My interpretation of the incident:
Lupe played the same song for 30 minutes until the venue kicked him off stage, and then falsely blamed the incident on his *radical* politics. Furthermore, he (meaning Atlantic) sent out press statements, which insinuated that he was forced off the stage by secret service (obviously untrue)... All of this to build some kind of hype or (what I assume Atlantic believes to be what listeners call) "credibility."
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2771490, RE: more courageous than wagging the shame finger on okp Posted by sal662, Mon Jan-21-13 02:47 PM
i think its awesome how lupe handled this
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2771557, Clearly making a post >>> what Lupe did Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:40 PM
>i think its awesome how lupe handled this
Lupe should have just come into OKP and started a thread in OKactivist
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2771663, yeah, I could care less about all of that. that guy is a clown. Posted by Airbreed, Tue Jan-22-13 12:31 AM
he should've never been invited.
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2771482, RE: Lupe kicked off stage @ Obama inauguration concert Posted by Tycredo, Mon Jan-21-13 01:38 PM
No leader should be above criticism, Obama included. Lupe's been pretty clear about why he's not for Obama and that's WAY different than the reasons conservatives don't like Obama. Rap music has always had a strain of rebellion/politics (Public Enemy...hello)...Lupe is doing just that.
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2771485, RE: Lupe kicked off stage @ Obama inauguration concert Posted by spew120, Mon Jan-21-13 01:55 PM
>No leader should be above criticism, Obama included. Lupe's >been pretty clear about why he's not for Obama and that's WAY >different than the reasons conservatives don't like Obama. Rap >music has always had a strain of rebellion/politics (Public >Enemy...hello)...Lupe is doing just that.
I'd venture to say that 90+% of people reading this story don't have a clue who Lupe Fiasco is (or his political background). Likewise, many media outlets, such as the Daily Caller (conservative, yet still respected by some)(it shouldn't be) don't even mention that the guy is attacking Obama from a position from the left.
So, for the next 24 hours, neocons like Matt Drudge and Tucker Carlson are going to use Lupe as a tool to convince white people that black people ALSO hate the President.
There's nothing wrong with incorporating politics into your music. But when your politics are little more than a marketing ploy bestowed upon you by your record label... then that's a problem.
I don't think Chuck D used politics to move units. I DO think Lupe uses politics to move units.
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2771489, RE: Lupe kicked off stage @ Obama inauguration concert Posted by Tycredo, Mon Jan-21-13 02:12 PM
> > >I'd venture to say that 90+% of people reading this story >don't have a clue who Lupe Fiasco is (or his political >background). Likewise, many media outlets, such as the Daily >Caller (conservative, yet still respected by some)(it >shouldn't be) don't even mention that the guy is attacking >Obama from a position from the left. > >So, for the next 24 hours, neocons like Matt Drudge and Tucker >Carlson are going to use Lupe as a tool to convince white >people that black people ALSO hate the President. > >There's nothing wrong with incorporating politics into your >music. But when your politics are little more than a marketing >ploy bestowed upon you by your record label... then that's a >problem. > >I don't think Chuck D used politics to move units. I DO think >Lupe uses politics to move units.
That's all probably true. Lupe probably is passionate about his politics and him and his label use that as his "angle to sell", if nothing else. I dunno. If, it terms of mainstream hip hop, it's this or 2 Chainz, Drake, etc, I think I would go with Lupe. At the very least, there's some passion and substance.
I'm not even a huge Lupe fan at all BTW...
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2771492, The mock outrage on both sides is funny Posted by mrshow, Mon Jan-21-13 03:13 PM
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2771495, Am I the only one questioning him being there in the first place? Posted by MarVeL, Mon Jan-21-13 03:51 PM
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2771496, Yeah, whose idea was it to have Lupe at a celebration for Obama? Posted by Oak27, Mon Jan-21-13 03:55 PM
Someone fucked up there.
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2771501, I just watched the video Posted by Coco la chapelle, Mon Jan-21-13 04:13 PM
Seems like dude wasnt even singing on the mic anymore, they didn't kick him after the Obama line but until he starts singing a capella, weird video indeed.
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2771517, Lupe is OFF his meds Posted by Princess_Tiffany, Mon Jan-21-13 05:22 PM
Or something...He needs to STFU and have a stadium of seats. I am okay with him having his own opinion about the President, although I don't agree with anyone who shouts loudly about the "wrongs" of government, yet they don't vote. Lupe had no business up on that stage performing the same shit for 30 minutes, and the people who booked him need their asses kicked too.
TheRealTPayne
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2771543, . Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:13 PM
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2771544, Yup. I mean, if you hate both candidates, you should vote anyway. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:13 PM
Clearly that's how things move forward in America
Fuck Lupe, seriously.
Oh, and Drone strikes are kinda awesome. He's such a dick
>Or something...He needs to STFU and have a stadium of seats. >I am okay with him having his own opinion about the President, >although I don't agree with anyone who shouts loudly about the >"wrongs" of government, yet they don't vote. Lupe had no >business up on that stage performing the same shit for 30 >minutes, and the people who booked him
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2771770, RE: Yup. I mean, if you hate both candidates, you should vote anyway. Posted by Princess_Tiffany, Tue Jan-22-13 01:29 PM
There's always more than one candidate. There's always more than one party. There are always people who don't vote, don't read shit, and don't care. I'm lumping Lupe into THAT category. He sounds like a fucking idiot and needs better "people" around him, AND he needs to not perform a repetitive song for 30 minutes.
> >Clearly that's how things move forward in America > >Fuck Lupe, seriously. > >Oh, and Drone strikes are kinda awesome. He's such a >dick > >>Or something...He needs to STFU and have a stadium of seats. >>I am okay with him having his own opinion about the >President, >>although I don't agree with anyone who shouts loudly about >the >>"wrongs" of government, yet they don't vote. Lupe had no >>business up on that stage performing the same shit for 30 >>minutes, and the people who booked him > > >---------------------------- > >Young Broadway Star Urgently Needs a Bone Marrow Donor. Is it >you? http://MatchShannon.com/ > > > > > > > >O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain" > > > > >"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..." > >(C)Keith Murray, "
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2771800, I agree. Always vote, regardless of how you actually feel. Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-22-13 03:46 PM
>There's always more than one candidate. There's always more >than one party. There are always people who don't vote, don't >read shit, and don't care. I'm lumping Lupe into THAT >category.
So what about the people that don't read shit, don't care and vote for candidates who are evil and destructive? They better than Lupe? I certainly think so, I was just checking with you, the authority.
>He sounds like a fucking idiot and needs better >"people" around him
Yup, just like Obama during his first term
LOLSusanRiceLOL
By most accounts Benghazi should have cost him the election...Hillary took that one for the team
AND he needs to not perform a repetitive >song for 30 minutes.
Now THERE'S something we can hate Lupe for. Not only does he hate awesome things like drone strikes, he performs repetitive songs.
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2774110, RE: I agree. Always vote, regardless of how you actually feel. Posted by Princess_Tiffany, Wed Jan-30-13 03:12 PM
You do what you want to do and I'll do what I want to do (which is to express my opinion about that fool-ass Lupe AND people who don't read or vote). TheRealTPayne
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2771847, high school text analysis Posted by howardlloyd, Tue Jan-22-13 07:49 PM
>although I don't agree with anyone who shouts loudly about the >"wrongs" of government, yet they don't vote.
1 nobody voted for obama... people voted for people who said they would vote for obama (but they can really vote for whoever they want)
2 you really think its a democracy here? lol. blacks and latinos = >25% of the u.s. population. how many black & latino senators are there? 1? lol
3 go study south africa's democracy. a place where whites are in the minority. see...there they make sure every vote counts. (edit: you know in many cases peoples vote doesnt actually COUNT for president...and thats why one can win while actually being voted for less e.g. bush in 2000) 4 O.E. has already made the arguments in this case look ridiculous
5 some people are smart enough to realize that voting is just another way of pacifying the people and that true change starts with a DIALOGUE amongst the people about the ways in which power both exploits and marginalizes folks with its various devices.
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2773582, Just to add on to this Posted by jorge123, Mon Jan-28-13 10:07 PM
There are 300 million people in this country. Let's say there are 200 million who are of voting age. 100 million who are registered to vote. Your vote literally has about 1/100,000,000 (that's 0.000001%) of an impact on the election.
So the chances of your vote being the deciding factor in any given election is about 0.000001%. Less if you aren't in a "battleground" state like NY or Illinois. And you blame Lupe for not taking the 30-45 minutes out of his day for voting?
He made 100,000 times the impact in the 30 minutes he spent stroking his own dick on that inaugural stage than he would have at the voting booth.
And all of the above assumes that the elections aren't rigged and all the votes actually count, which I find questionable at best.
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2773584, ^Hates our freedom/in bed with terrorists Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-28-13 10:10 PM
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2771542, Drone strikes are actually awesome. Fuck Lupe, seriously. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:12 PM
Seriously -- who does he think he is!?!?!
Having an opinion?
Dickhead
None of what he does is effective
Why doesn't he write a bill, so that it can passed swiftly and efficiently by congress?!?!
Why doesn't he go to law school, so he can become an attorney and....propose a bill that can be swiftly and efficiently passed by congress!?!!
Why doesn't he....write some awesome op-eds in the Chicago Tribune.....that could lead to a bill that will be swiftly and efficiently passed by congress!?!?!?
Why doesn't he...become a professor, and publish 38 page manuscripts in the Journal of International Affairs!?!? That could lead to conversations that would lead to conversations that would lead to bills that could be quickly and efficiently passed by congress!?!?!?
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2771547, ^^^^Looks to rappers for political guidance Posted by mrshow, Mon Jan-21-13 07:21 PM
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2771550, Yup. LongLiveA$AP made me change my investment portfolio. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:31 PM
I'm serious
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2771552, ^^^^Learned about drone strikes from Lupe Fiasco Posted by mrshow, Mon Jan-21-13 07:33 PM
You're like Eugene Debs if he was scared of hipsters!
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2771556, Lupe introduced me to skateboards, Islam, drones and lasers. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:38 PM
skateboards, islam and lasers all suck
But drones are fucking awesome
Can't really support this nigga because of his views
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2771560, This where you and I differ I guess Posted by mrshow, Mon Jan-21-13 07:52 PM
I can't really support him because of his often-shitty music.
Still, I understand why he appeals to you. It's easier/quicker to watch a rant from a celebrity on youtube than to actually read pieces on drone strikes written by people who've actually studied foreign policy. The same way it's easier to bitch about hipsters than to actually deal with issues of race and class.
> >skateboards, islam and lasers all suck > >But drones are fucking awesome > >Can't really support this nigga because of his views > > >---------------------------- > >Young Broadway Star Urgently Needs a Bone Marrow Donor. Is it >you? http://MatchShannon.com/ > > > > > > > >O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain" > > > > >"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..." > >(C)Keith Murray, "
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2771561, Lupe is easily one of the 5 worst rappers to ever touch a mic. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:59 PM
>I can't really support him because of his often-shitty >music.
Lupe is easily one of the worst rappers to ever pick up a microphone, this is well understood
>Still, I understand why he appeals to you. It's easier/quicker >to watch a rant from a celebrity on youtube than to actually >read pieces on drone strikes written by people who've actually >studied foreign policy.
Yeah, its strange -- I gave up on foreign policy articles (including the ones I've written) because they are way too smart and well thought-out to me, which is precisely why me and my colleagues have solved all these problems. We render Lupe Fiasco or anyone without a degree from the Kennedy School of Government completely useless.
I mean, look how masterfully Susan Rice handled Benghazi! Only a Rhodie could pull that off. Master work. Glad she's Secretary of State.
As for Lupe -- not only is he an awful rapper, he doesn't support shit that is totally john blaze like drone strikes
The same way it's easier to bitch >about hipsters than to actually deal with issues of race and >class. > > > > > >> >>skateboards, islam and lasers all suck >> >>But drones are fucking awesome >> >>Can't really support this nigga because of his views >> >> >>---------------------------- >> >>Young Broadway Star Urgently Needs a Bone Marrow Donor. Is >it >>you? http://MatchShannon.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain" >> >> >> >> >>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..." >> >>(C)Keith Murray, " >
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2771580, Nothing screams "foreign policy expert" more Posted by mrshow, Mon Jan-21-13 08:22 PM
than arguing drone strikes on a Roots messageboard in a post about Lupe Fiasco.
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2771589, Hey, I'm no Secretary of State Susan Rice. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 08:35 PM
>than arguing drone strikes on a Roots messageboard in a post >about Lupe Fiasco.
Maybe if I posted less I could do awesome things like nail the Benghazi conflict.
If didn't post at all, I could come up with something dope like the Bush Doctrine
I think you're right.
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2771602, Holy shit, you know who Susan Rice is! Posted by mrshow, Mon Jan-21-13 08:52 PM
Your depth of foreign policy knowledge is a wonder to behold.
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2771628, Yup. Lupe introduced me to him. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 09:20 PM
Thought it was strange that a guy would be named "Susan" but then Lupe told me its common Practice in the Muslim Chicago Skateboarding community
He was better when he was Bush's Secretary Of state, though.
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2771629, Go back to Snookie jokes Posted by mrshow, Mon Jan-21-13 09:24 PM
nm
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2771634, Snookie? Lupe's cousin or the city in Southern Syria? Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 09:48 PM
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2771665, We know.. Posted by mrshow, Tue Jan-22-13 12:36 AM
>Im confused >---------------------------- > >Young Broadway Star Urgently Needs a Bone Marrow Donor. Is it >you? http://MatchShannon.com/ > > > > > > > >O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain" > > > > >"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..." > >(C)Keith Murray, "
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2771690, dead @ totally john blaze Posted by Zayus, Tue Jan-22-13 06:23 AM
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2771558, I got it! Let's petition Lupe to start a post in OKactivist!!! Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 07:43 PM
Or General Discussion, but in GD it'll get lost in the posts about how girls from Texas don't wash their pussy as well as girls from Louisiana
Either way, public demonstrations are a trite publicity stunt
He should do more effective things that change the world like having a gay latino inaugural poet
Or starting an awesome post on OKP
>http://www.mediaite.com/online/rapper-lupe-fiasco-bashes-obama-at-inauguration-concert-reportedly-forced-off-stage-due-to-dissatisfied-crowd/ > >My bet is that it was staged by Atlantic. This "inauguration >event" definitely wasn't an "official" inauguration event. >Those guys with ear pieces certainly were not secret service. >It's just another publicity stunt (like that fake-as-fuck Free >Lupe protest). Now Bill O'Reilly finally can say "Rappers hate >Obama too" (check out Drudge Report if you think the Neo-Nazi >conservatives aren't already saying that). > >Thanks again Lupe!
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2771591, Obama's drones are a lot bigger than Lupe's nuts Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-21-13 08:36 PM
Let's keep it in perspective, k?
This is the Lesson: your comments must be negative, or you'll be threatened with losing your login
I mean it
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2771585, lupe got some big fuckn nuts Posted by judono, Mon Jan-21-13 08:31 PM
All I got to say..
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2771714, Watched the vid...crowd didnt seem disinterested or upset n/m. Posted by the_time_is_when_god...lounge, Tue Jan-22-13 09:58 AM
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2771792, Doesn't matter. This is the Lesson and we're talking about Lupe. Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-22-13 03:16 PM
n/m
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2771771, lupe stays being the realest nigga in the mainstream Posted by Benedict the Moor, Tue Jan-22-13 01:29 PM
coke-rappers stay rapping about destroying their own communities while lupe pushes intelligent, politically-charged content -- what far more artists SHOULD be doing.
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2771808, agreed. Posted by DolphinTeef, Tue Jan-22-13 04:13 PM
>coke-rappers stay rapping about destroying their own >communities while lupe pushes intelligent, politically-charged >content -- what far more artists SHOULD be doing.
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2771816, I like him a lot more than I like his music, if that makes sense Posted by Tiger Woods, Tue Jan-22-13 04:32 PM
I wish the music matched the man because if it did he'd be one of the great rappers of our generation. For me at least, his output has just been too inconsistent and downright awful even at times. Nonetheless, I applaud him for saying the things that need to be said - that Obama truthfully hasn't been that great and that war is disgusting.
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2771882, yea that's the weird thing. Lupe is the activist ppl wish kweli, mos, Posted by southphillyman, Tue Jan-22-13 10:44 PM
and common were while mos def is running around having illegitimate children and common is filming shitty films lupe is putting his career on the line repeatedly trying to educate this retarded niggas lupe makes bitch bad ....niggas hate lupe cries on tv cause black babies are dying in chicago....niggas hate lupe tries to open eyes about this political system....niggas hate
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2773494, it's so fucn strange and annoying Posted by astralblak, Mon Jan-28-13 04:36 PM
i think it has to do with how apolitical the youth and critics tend to be in the states right now.
regardlss of folks hate, I applaud him for at least having the courage to speak on his interpretations of how American society functions as a political and social force on a local and global scale
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2773906, it shows 4 a lotta okps who joined a dec ago, conscious was a fad Posted by Jon, Tue Jan-29-13 10:33 PM
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2771884, He wrote a nice pro-Lil B piece a while back... Posted by mrshow, Tue Jan-22-13 11:04 PM
http://www.lupefiasco.com/news/why-i-lil-b-review
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2773530, RE: lupe stays being the realest nigga in the mainstream Posted by The DC Sniper, Mon Jan-28-13 06:25 PM
I think you're confusing pretentiousness with intelligence
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2773533, Explain, specifically, what is "pretentious" about Lupe. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-28-13 06:36 PM
>I think you're confusing pretentiousness with intelligence
And explain who he's "pretentious" relative to.
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2773875, RE: Explain, specifically, what is "pretentious" about Lupe. Posted by The DC Sniper, Tue Jan-29-13 08:25 PM
He's comically misinformed
>And explain who he's "pretentious" relative to.
Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of politics
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2773914, Explain. Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-29-13 11:12 PM
>He's comically misinformed
About?
If you can't (which you can't) then you're the one misinformed
(I been known that, just letting you know)
>>And explain who he's "pretentious" relative to. > >Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of politics
You sort of tanked your response in a wonderfully ironic way.
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2773588, I tuned Lupe out after F&L...wasn't feeling him. Haven't felt his music since Posted by jorge123, Mon Jan-28-13 10:14 PM
However.
That song that he was singing - Words I Never Said - is fucking fire. I haven't heard rappers or musicians in general (other than honkeys) talking about this shit since...oh I don't know...maybe Immortal Technique in 2003? Maybe some of Prodigy's more recent shit? But damn, man, it's good to hear some music on a subject where you can tell the artist is pissed as hell and trying to get his point across.
Unfortunately this is like the perfect storm of OkayPlayer agendas - anti-Lupe and pro-Obama. Can't praise Lupe, and can't criticize the lord and savior of all non-islamic brown people.
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2773629, some lupe media events seem 'manufactured', but i think he genuinely... Posted by k0la, Tue Jan-29-13 12:52 AM
...feels disturbed about the severe challenges facing the community he grew up in and america's self-destructive/hyper-offensive domestic and foreign policies. i'm glad he uses his music and media appearances to express dissent. i like obama generally, but his administration's policies do extend cheney's vision of dystopia. it's caused death and danger without accountability, and it undermines a lot of the liberties that generations before ours worked to achieve, and i think these issues deserve some public discourse.
so he temporarily hijacked an event...is that such a terrible thing? it may have been 'inappropriate', but whatever, he got to speak his mind. they got him off stage so it's not like he ruined the whole event. maybe he got one person to actually consider what he was saying, which i'm sure is worth it to him. was all this just to garner attention to himself? ionno lupe to personally say he would do that, but i hope not.
now if he can just be more consistent with reconciling quality music and constructive messages on the next album, that'd be great.
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2773663, Lupe's act was less "manufactured" than Obama's presidency Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-29-13 06:11 AM
And I say that as an Obama supporter.
And its probably not quite as "inappropriate" as Guantanamo or drone strikes.
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